Surprised how easy it can happen? How ****ing dumb are you people. It says not to do it. Did you think they just put that in there to fill space. Damn. If it says do not play the Xbox 360 under water because it may damage your system, are you going to play it under water to see if they were lying?

Well...i dont think anybody who got an xbox360 will take the time to read the whole manual, they would just want to rip it out of the box and start playing. I would probably be switching positions just to see the light change because i think thats a nice little touch. Why did they not change DVD drives, or did Microsoft even know about this.....

I had nor problems with Microsoft. They told me they would replace all my scratched discs (and not with PDZ, mind you). You just have to lie and say you didn't move it while it was on.

The official position is they aren't replacing the discs, it's the consumers fault not the design team. I called the xbox customer service and the girl went as far as to say it could have been designed that way to get the consumer to respect their xbox and take better care of it. WWHHAAA??? I've heard they would offer a free copy of Perfect Dark (no matter which game you scratched). Great deal MS. They need to at least put a warning sticker somewhere on the 360. I think the problem deserves a little more presence than one line buried in the manual.

For ****s sake! This is nothing new, anything that has a dvd tray rather than a flip top lid would do this.
Dont belive me? Try flipping a ps2/xbox/pc on its side when a disk is spinning and see what happens.

Think about it this way. A DVD disk is spinning between 570-1600 RPM, depending on where the laser is reading the data. This fast motion creates a lot of inertia. If you rotate the X360, the disk will want to remain in the same plane, thus causing it to become tilted in the drive and scratch against the lens assembly. This problem really isn't that rare. Try tilting your home DVD player while it's playing a movie and see what happens.

i did this to need for speed most wanted. i just went back to the store and said the game doesnt work. they just gave me a knew one. i told them it came like that. it is as simple as that. let the game returns start. I know toys r us did it so try there.

LOL
I dun get it
I flip my stuff all the tym
my pc, I have to plug in and out hdds, so I lean it on the sides while it's still on.
no scratch there.
PS2, I move it around coz it doesn't have its designated space, and my table is messy.
no scratch there.

my laptop, I tilt it and watch it coz I might be watching from my bed.
no scratch there.

well, I dunno.

it's like telling me to never touch my fridge after it's installed.
the gas inside it will surely mix up and break the damn thing if u shake it violently like it's your arch nemesis when it's on, but a shove or something shouldn't break all the bananas inside there.q

i'm so pissed. My 360 scratched the **** out of my cod2 disk. I have it in the vertical position and haven't moved it since i set it up. I put the game in, played for about a half hour then out of nowhere I started hearing a weird sound. I opened the tray and bam....disk scratched like crazy. This sucks I knew I should have just waited for this pos.

Remember people NEVER buy the first batch of anything. EVER. There is always defects and bugs to be worked out. I don't care how popular or hyped a product is just dont do it.

The PS2 does not have this problem, I have constantly moved my PS2 around while its on, Turned it vertically or horizontal and never had a disk scratched so bad that it wouldnt play.

Whenever i do all i get is a barely noticable ring on my disk and it plays perfectly.

The xbox360 is badly designed no matter how you try and reason it out. No next gen console should scratch a disk from minor movements.

What happens if you have your xbox vertical and trip over a controller wire. It will want to fall into a horizontal position depending on how hard and when the quick release disconnected the cord.

My computer can take much more hits then an xbox. When its burning, i can hit it move it around and still get a good burn.

But a console that has problems when you move it gently is a problem.

Screw the first xbox360 models. All you fools are gonna be sorry once new models are designed with less flaws.

Sony wont be as stupid and the quality they put into all their other equipment will be in the PS3.

Microsoft has very little experience when it comes to designing equipment. The xbox was proof of that and now again they proove that they are just as inexpierenced with the xbox360.

tok they only put that **** in the manual just so they dont get sued over ****ed up discs. apparently micrsoft new what the problem was from the beggining but decided that it would cost too much money for em to fix, hey lets give the stupid fanboys a ****ed up console cause those dumbasses will still buy the dam thing and we get more money cause they will have to buy the game again and put more money in our pockets. IMAGINE THAT. if they were less scared they would have not rushed there product to market before sony and they might have just been even more successful.
cant yall fanboys see that microsoft dont care about their customers and that they never will, they never have. if they werent such dumbasses they would have been smart and delayed their launch, which they could have fixed the problem and shipped with more units.

Just had my PDZ disk replaced. My 360 has never been turned or knocked that i know of and is on a very stable hi-fi table.

If it ruins any of my over expensive games i will be phoning M$ straight away!