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Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?

Posted Dec 1, 2011 at 6:27PM EST by

Listed in: Applications Tags: andy payne, mastertronic, Nathan Drake, uncharted, Zelda
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Sony and Nintendo are two of the biggest names in the world of console gaming, taking up a large portion of market share. With only three serious contenders available in stores, it stands to reason that two of those contenders would have a major influence on the future of games development. And while both Nintendo and Sony have seen success in their forays into console gaming, the ever-changing games market calls into question the long-term viability of consoles.

 

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Andy Payne, managing director of Mastertronic and indie game developer, believes that it would make more sense for Nintendo and Sony to stop worrying so much about console development and focus instead on mobile devices and tablets. Speaking at a round table event for the Develop in Liverpool game conference, he offered some thoughts on how the two companies can evolve into pure software providers.


The general argument is that holding your biggest names (Mario, Nathan Drake) to one specific console severely limits your market share to people that own that specific console. If Mario games were release on the Android Market, for example, Nintendo could dramatically increase the number of people with access to the titles. Of course, they’d lose the performance guarantees that come with developing a game for one system, and they’d lose a major motivating factor in console purchases.


Payne’s main thrust is that it would be exciting to see Zelda, Uncharted, and all of the other Sony/Nintendo-specific franchises cropping up on a number of devices. Plus, the lack of need for a console would free up developmental and financial resources for both companies. I’m not exactly sure why he left Microsoft out of the loop in these statements, but I assume he feels the same way about Halo and Gears of War.


The big problem that I see with this theory is control – Nintendo and Sony’s games are designed around specific control schemes and require them for ease of play. How deep could the Uncharted experience really be if Sony had to ensure it worked across a number of devices? What about Skyward Sword?


What’s your opinion on Payne’s statements? Do you think we’ll ever see Nintendo, Sony and Microsoft giving up on hardware to focus exclusively on software?


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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?tosh.0 2011-12-01 20:27
That's a stupid question. Sales alone answer it with a big fat NO!

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+1 # RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?mrcory 2011-12-01 21:16
Only we have another Sega scenario. Tablets and phones will never replace consoles. A touchscreen will never replace a control. And as far as a gamepad for them, you would then have to hold a device with it.

Mobile gaming is viable, but not a replacement, more like a complement.

Also PCs are great for gaming too, I just prefer a console myself.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?jeepman 2011-12-01 21:21
hes a idiot

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# I'm sorry, who?Tykam993 2011-12-01 22:12
Never heard of him. I feel like if you're going to tell gaming giants to stop making consoles, you should probably have at least made a significant contribution to the industry. You can run a company with the same name as one that used to be prominent, but that does not give you the authority to tell any company— especially the one with the highest number of console sales— not to do something.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?thed00d 2011-12-01 22:58
ummm no, nobody wants to buy an xbox every 2 years when they rrod or pay to play online, or buy an apple product for gaming. Nintendo has dedicated fanboys (and gals) and sony is the real gaming machine and has been when nintendo steered away from gaming to being family friendly consoles.

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# RE: RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?Fate 2011-12-02 17:50
hmmm are people still going on about the RRoD? the current line of xboxes can't even get RRoD, and about the pay to play online part all I have to say is you get what you pay for, besides Nintendo nor Sony can match Xbox Live for the moment.

but if Nintendo and Sony where to give up on consoles everyone would lose on it.

Without competition everything will fall.

OS X would fall without Windows
Xbox would fall without Nintendo and Playstation.

Without a competitor to force you to do better you can't improve

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-1 # RE: RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?PS360 Owner1 2011-12-03 21:36
People still with the RRoD bs? That's so lame, RRoD is gone.

"Sony is the real gaming machine"

^ You're a Sony fanboy, that explains the use of the lame excuse why 360 this and that.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?Navani 2011-12-01 23:30
Most retarded thing ever. "Let's let Microsoft have a monopoly!!" Besides, I like my PS3. I've NEVER had an issue with it, and I have the launch 60 gig and it's been used pretty much daily.

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# mehthe dude 2011-12-01 23:37
they're not just a software development company. the core business model indicates manufacturing of console hardwares as objectives in their respective hardware departments. the games are there for increase in revenue and to justify console purchases.

tl;dr ninty & sony are not only software company

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?baconkong 2011-12-02 00:42
Gaming on phones and tablets is a joke. If Sony and Nintendo focus on that, I'll stop playing any new games from them.

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# ..Zach 2011-12-02 00:45
This is stupid, I never play games on my ipad, always play on my ps3. Touch controls for games is just not the same. ipad is just used to browse the internet and facebook and stuff.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?Curly 2011-12-02 03:18
When exactly can i purchase this uber marion bros. fr my iphoney?

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# whaa whaa poor meproject23 2011-12-02 04:19
More crying from an independent developer who wants their own claws in successful franchises in places they they know (phones and other crap systems that are not designed as game systems). The term 'independent developer' has only recently gained a voice simply because they have access to millions of PHONE users, not gamers. Get over yourselves phone developers. Angry birds is an interesting game, but it is not a GREAT game on a GAME MACHINE. It might be the best thing you can get on your non game machine (phone, tablet, etc), but it is totally worthless on a true game machine (what game machine has ported it to its platform?). Stay with your phones, we like real games on our game machines (PS3, 360, Wii).

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-2 # I doyes 2011-12-02 07:34
:lol:

NINTendo should definately get out of he Home console market as they are becoming a joke.

SONY/M$ are now the Home console giants & probably will continue to be so for the forseeable future.

Nintendo have now cut themselves out of the race because they were too - too late to adopt HD...They fuk'ed up and now its too late too retract and try to be the third competitor. The WiiU has no chance.

And really - no one gives a shit anymore about Nintendos flagship icons.

I would only look forward to ZELDA ever on a Nintendo console and thats it.

They should stick to portable machines - thats wot they are good and getting better at developing (though 3DS had a bad start). If Nintendo specialized in HD Tablets for adults and Dual screens for the kiddies that would be just fine. Besides they can inc. plenty of Wii remote style controllers much more fluidly for tablets etc. And you can connect the tablet to your HD TV and the Dual screens can connect to the tablets - win/win.

As for he home (bulky consoles) they should drop out and let M$ & $ony have their fill.

Its the only way - Nintendo are OUT either way whether they CHOOSE to do so early or get kicked out later on - its inevitable.

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-1 # RE: I doMr. F 2011-12-02 13:29
Nintendo is a joke?


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# retardedKJC 2011-12-24 02:44
nintendo only does gaming jackass.
sony and microsoft make more money from other products and software. theyre in gaming for the lulz and are still better at making consoles than nintendo. the wii is basically a gamecube. people only buy it for kids, or if they dont know how to read the features list on the side of the box. only reason they sell more than sony or M$ is cause the console is cheaper. nintendo is the mcdonalds of the gaming industry. sony is steak n shake, and M$ is Fazolis.

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# RE: I doTykam993 2011-12-02 15:09
Nintendo is a joke?

This is the same Nintendo that brought motion controls back into console gaming and swayed both Sony AND MS to produce motion controlled games. You're trying to say one of the most innovative companies in gaming should stop making consoles?

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# ROFLtrigger_ftu 2011-12-04 14:25
Nintendo is the joke that's funny. just because of HD gfx. your the kind of person that buys a game to stare at it instead of playing it that's sad.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?Andy Mitchell 2011-12-02 11:01
Holy crap. Mastertronic are still alive?! I remember them from my old Commodore 64.

And Nintendo I could maybe agree with but then who would will the slot for making family/children accessible consoles?

PS3 & X360 are both gered around the more serious gamer with the odd family game whereas Nintendo cater to the families & kids.

I think it's fine as it is right now to be honest. Although I would like to actually see MS & Sony join forces to make a mega console. Imagine, Sony's free online gaming + blu-ray drive combined with the 360. One can only dream!

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# Well kind of.Tykam993 2011-12-02 15:07
Mastertronic died quite some time ago. These people bought the name in 06 or 09, I can't remember which. One of them might have been a part of the original Mastertronic, but I think he has died.
Haha if Sony ans MS got together to make a console, Bill Gates wouldn't even be able to afford it

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?just_me 2011-12-02 15:12
What Sony and Nintendo really need to do is make their consoles better and focus on gaming before anything else. The PS3 was expensive when it came out due to Blu-ray, but why was that necessary? The wii was suppossed to be innovative and cool with it's motion controls, but they were shakey and a dominating title was never released.
I've been gaming since I was able to hold a controller. Considering I haven't stopped, I've only gotten better at the games that I play. Mario 64, for example, was a challenge. It was fun and exciting and let you explore massive worlds without much guidance. Then Wii delivers Galaxy. I stopped playing it after the first few worlds because of its simplicity. I even picked it up again on my friend's end-game; I waltzed through the last few levels and was met by a very disappointingly easy boss. The only game worth mentioning inbetween that was Sunshine, and even then I only ever wanted to get to the sprites where my waterguns were removed... And I understand that Mario has always been family oriented, but after growing up with him, I'm ready for him to grow up too. He needs to appear in better quality graphics and abstain from this cartoony junk. It's painful playing the new Mario Party games due to their cheeseyness factor. Same with Zelda. Link doesn't need to keep on looking like a little kid in cartoon form. Ocarina was awesome because you watched him grow up and have his whole world around him turn to Hell because of Gannondorf. That was so much fun. I've never enjoyed Zelda as much as when I first came out of the temple of time and saw the giant red ring floating above the Goron's volcano. I guess that's one thing Xbox got right ;-)
In summary, the systems need to market to their fans that have been with them throughout the ages. I've stopped buying nintendo, because it's not delivering quality products. Make something amazing that caters to adults, and maybe you can turn me back into a diehard Nintendo fan again.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?reza666 2011-12-02 16:27
What a moron! Sure tablet and phones are at peak now but it will slow down. Also ppl buying 50$ games won't ever spend that much cash on tablets.
And nothing beats dual joystick on console. As said his a moron and knows nothing about gaming!!!

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?Infinity101 2011-12-02 19:27
Should Nintendo and Sony stop Making Consoles?

How about no.

Who said that Microsoft?

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# RE: RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?PS360 Owner1 2011-12-03 21:37
Don't you read the news article or are you illiterate? It was an indie dev.

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# RE: Should Nintendo and Sony Stop Making Consoles?SINCaliber 2011-12-03 01:23
**** out who think of that.

Tablets, phones, etc. helps with diversity with controls but not outright make console obsolete.

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# looks liketrigger_ftu 2011-12-04 14:37
looks like a M$ fanboy posted this onto QJ. not wise, not wise at all. the question as to 2 major companies ceasing their development is like asking apple to quit making ipods and iphones. it just isn't happening. as i see it. xbox has it's piracy as is with jtag, wii has it as well but it's being judged for GFX and not for game play, as for PS3 yes it was costly in the past but look at it now, features where removed for the protection of the systems income and yet sony gets ranted on by people who want a system like the wii and xbox where backups can be played. seems to me that the relation to the outcome of actual hate toward the consoles are revolving around who can pirate a game and have good GFX instead of actually owning the game and having fun playing that game. i have nothing against backup loading as long as the disc is still in ownership. i have no problem with homebrew i like playing emulation on a new system as well as the next guy. now before someone goes about calling me a fanboy, i do own and play all 3 systems. and i enjoy them equally. yes i have a 360, with xbox gold. yeah i have a ps3 with ps+. and yes i own a wii and play n64 and VC games. there be my 2cents.

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# thumbs updarksterz89 2011-12-11 08:50
couldn't agree more with u.

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# WOWIshmum 2011-12-23 14:26
The biggest pile of garbage I ever heard

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# hmmmmdorkgeniuz21 2011-12-26 14:55
I have a few simple solutions for this dilemma.The first is for sony,nintendo & Microsoft to create there own dedicated smart phones that are specific to there games, hardware & control schemes but cool enough to stand next to the iphones & android.The second is to make the games compatible with the original controllers either via bluetooth etc, also implementing new hardware devices that enable such a thing to happen between systems such as xbox etc.Also coming up with quality cables that enable connections to hdtv's etc would enable one to have a similar if not the same quality as the console experience which may slightly nudge someone without a console to actually want to take heed of a console experience.Also, as far as just releasing a few licenses to android & apple smart phones, I would say the would have to create new specific games for the devices that are not clones or games that were on any previous consoles.If anything they could be prequels & sequels to previous games that delve even more into the futures and pasts of the games we know and love.Lets just call it downloadable content for smart-phones..lol.

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