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What's the deal with Microsoft and Japan?

Posted Jul 20, 2006 at 2:01AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Xbox 360 Tags: Japan, Michael Pachter, Microsoft, Mike Wolf, Sony, xbox 360 titles
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Xbox Daijoubu?


What should an Xbox 360 do to make it big in Japan? Enlist the help of flippy haired boybands to shake their bonbons and flash those pearly whites for a TV spot that will double as plug for their latest single? Which they have already done, so why then is Microsoft's Xbox 360 still having a miserable time in the Land of the Rising Sun?

Analysts like Michael Pachter of Wedbush Morgan Securities, a leading financial services and investment firm that provides private and institutional brokerage, investment banking, private capital, research, and asset management to individual, institutional and issuing clients, thinks that it more of a cultural difference rather than being product based.

"I think it will be exceedingly difficult for Microsoft to succeed in Japan, due to cultural bias against American/foreign companies that threaten established Japanese companies. Microsoft is taking on two Japanese companies, both of which have well-developed relationships with Japanese publishers, and both of which have superior first-party development capability (compared to Microsoft)," says Pachter. Adding that in hindsight it may have been a smart move to have partnered with a Japanese company like Toshiba to put an HD-DVD drive in the Xbox 360.

Ben Bajarin of Creative Strategies, a company that leverages more than three decades of analysis, strategizing, and hands-on corporate advisory board experience, also shares the same concern by Pachter. Using the success of Sony and Nintendo as example, he says, "Sony and Nintendo do well in Japan because they have a deep understanding of their consumers' lifestyles. Microsoft has created a lifestyle product in the 360 and much of the lifestyle it caters to is U.S.- and U.K.-based. So for Microsoft to succeed in Japan, they need great games for that market, but they also need to provide a product that fits into the Japanese lifestyle and culture. That may mean a very different looking and feeling Xbox 360 [for Japan]."

But ABI Research's Mike Wolf, doesn't exactly have the same sentiments as Pachter and Bajarin. He says that what the company needs is a respectable market share to lure in Japanese developers and "exclusive must-haves" for the console to have the Japanese flocking over it.

"For all the talk of supporting the Japanese market with relevant titles, the [Xbox 360] launch list -- and even today -- shows a dearth of titles that will entice the Japanese game player. Ninety-Nine Nights and Final Fantasy XI are a start, but what they need are some exclusive must-haves that would drive the Japanese consumer to the console."

The industry representatives have had their viewpoints heard, time to hear the voice of the masses. So, why do you think Microsoft is still not doing so well in Japan?

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# Japs like jap stuffGuest 2006-07-20 03:08
first lol. anway japanese are way too traditionalists to buy american stuff. thats fact.

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# there are..Vecha 2006-07-20 03:10
like 7-8 jrpgs coming out for the 360 soon.



Not going to make much of a difference though...but the 360 will do fine in europe and northamerica which when combined against Japan...is a hell of alot more people.

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# Oh well..Guest 2006-07-20 03:20
If i would be MS, i would stop selling them OS like Windows and everything else branded M$ would be took off from japan. I would let Sony taking care of their cries !! HAHA lol

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# the hell?Vecha 2006-07-20 03:23
".



If i would be MS, i would stop selling them OS like Windows and everything else branded M$ would be took off from japan. I would let Sony taking care of their cries !! HAHA lol"



Do you even think you make sense?



M$ is better off then sony right now...what are you going on about stop selling windows OS? Are you mentally retarded?

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# my 2c...Guest 2006-07-20 03:33
I don't think it's just the fact that M$ is American that is hampering their performence in Nippon, although it may be a consideration in their bad sales, I think they are suffering from the same 2 'problems' with the 360 that turned the Japanese off the original Xbox. First it's size is a huge factor. You only have to look at the sales of re-sized consoles like the slimline PS2 and DSLite to see that people (especially Japanese) want smaller consoles and lets face it the 360 is nearly as big as the original Xbox. Second, let's face it, M$ are still mainly pushing FPS games at us, and that's the image they will always have. Without proper support for good RPGs they have no hope. I know they have some on the way but let's face it Enchant Arms and FFXI aren't gonna sell to many units (especially FFXI as it's not much of an improvment over existing version for the PC & PS2)

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# Always with the "experts"Guest 2006-07-20 03:33
Just ask the people who aren't buying it that they think should be. Experts are often wrong and these aren't even Japanese. If it were Japanese experts it would make some sense because they would understand Japanese people. But how is an American supposed to know why the Japanese don't like something?



Companies pay millions for all these experts, it would be so much cheaper for them to just do a questionnaire or something in the region, and it would give the right answers as well, not some rubbish guess from an American.

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# hm...Guest 2006-07-20 03:36
I think its maybe the fact that not many of the Japs are hardcore gamers like us. All three consoles!!!!!!! !!!!!! (soon to be)

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# -Guest 2006-07-20 03:48
when are we going to get a news story saying



"Here is what Japanese gamers have to say about why they dont buy a 360"

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# JapsGuest 2006-07-20 03:58
Japanese people love american culture just as we love their culture. Try driving a harley through tokyo without 500 people wanting to buy it from you. The same can be said about american cars(except recently due to gas costs) The xbox360 just isnt what they want..they want weird and retarded crap. thats what they are all about..if you give that to them 360 would be a hit...actually a good strategy for microsoft would be to get an exclusive contract with sega to release panzer dragoon on 360.. if they had some popular japanese software it may sell better..oh and those jap babes are looking good..the one on the left is hurtin for a squirtin..skett skeet!!!

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# Why? I'll tell you... from the mouths of the JapaneseGuest 2006-07-20 04:43
I have many friends in Japan, some who come back and forth from Japan to the states regularly... the most common response I get when I ask them why Japanese gamers don't go for the 360 is "because it's American", and also "because it's Microsoft", and lastly, "because it's under the acceptable 'bar' for technology (Japan has some very advanced gadgets, and the 360 is just not appealing with the hardware it offers, Jpn gamers will choose Nintendo out of tradition, or Sony for the shear technology)".

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# #10 I appalaud youGuest 2006-07-20 05:22
I can honestly say you are right. People in Japan just don't like the 360 for who made it and what it has. Their games for the Japanese market suck. All they have is Ninety Nine Nights and FF XI. However, why would they buy a 360 for FF XI when FF XIII for the PS3 is coming. The graphics for that game is crazy. Also, you made a point that it's not technologically strong enough for Japan. For example, the Wii brings new innovantions for their games and the PS3 brings RAW power. That's the perfect combination. That leads me to believe the PS3 will be successful regardless of the price. It's has the new technology to appeal to consumers. I can honestly say the 360 will be in deep trouble when the holiday season comes and the Japanese consoles enter the race.

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# skeet skeetGuest 2006-07-20 05:24
i need to go to japan and urinate on the entire country..oh yes that would be effin Sexy

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# ...Shatterdome 2006-07-20 06:51
How can we understand the working of an atom without being an atom ? It's called study and observation...the point made about the Japanese not wanting to support an american company is totally founded. You guys dropped bombs on them, made up silly laws for them, and have no honour...I can emphasize with the japanese, i've studied their culture, I know Japanese people and I can say forsure it's just that they don't like MS. To compound that, the 360 is an actual threat to PS3, putting them that much more on the defensive...it's a no brainer really...

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# #10+11Shatterdome 2006-07-20 06:55
I think the Japs may change their tune once the PS3 comes out, not dramatically, as they are really traditional people. I think once they see that the PS3 isn't actually doing anything the 360 can't, and that all those numbers are just number, then sales may pick up abit...but I think they will stand by sony, plus sony's machine is going to be shiny black, that's a smart move in Japan :P

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# Chicken Bone Neck *****-sucking Jew, *****s like her Mother-*****er COON!Guest 2006-07-20 06:59
Chicken Bone Neck *****-sucking Jew, *****s like her Mother-*****er COON!

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# ummGuest 2006-07-20 08:03
"first lol. anway japanese are way too traditionalists to buy american stuff. thats fact."



"I have many friends in Japan, some who come back and forth from Japan to the states regularly... the most common response I get when I ask them why Japanese gamers don't go for the 360 is "because it's American", and also "because it's Microsoft", and lastly, "because it's under the acceptable 'bar' for technology (Japan has some very advanced gadgets, and the 360 is just not appealing with the hardware it offers, Jpn gamers will choose Nintendo out of tradition, or Sony for the shear technology)"."



What a load of crap, i know for a FACT that MANY japanese LOVE american culture and american things. And MS does VERY well in Japan.... on the PC front, and its not just Windows.



The true problem with 360 in japan are the GAMES. They should have waited to release it. They need More Big name RPGS, and exclusives.

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# MS will never win in JapanGuest 2006-07-20 08:46
Yes #3 is retarded. Also, quit using racial slurrs-it's damn offensive. Anyway, my wife is Japanese and I while I think they like the latest technology, the main reason the XBOX 360 isn't doing so hot is the horrible launch of the system. Microsoft should have waited until more locally influenced games came out. Also, the first XBOX did even worse, and at the point that came out most already had PS2s. While MS has been trying hard and has learned from past mistakes, it seems few have faith the system will have strong third party support. Two rpg's won't sell the system. Also, there's a huge amount of games (for all systems) that americans simply would find too "weird" and aren't even released here. If PS3 launched with only those kind of games, it wouldn't do so hot either.

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# ummmGuest 2006-07-20 10:42
wat would help sell lameboxs...xbox 1.5...watever u call it...would be if they were able to make a semi-okay game that ISNT a FPS!...

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# -Guest 2006-07-20 10:49
short answer why? its ***** box.



PS3 FTW!!!

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# at #14Guest 2006-07-20 11:01
Japanese will never accept xbox 360

it may be true that ps3 could handle most thing xbox 360 already could or so we believe so far, but Ageia announced that long ago sony will use Agiea Physx hardware which boost load time, and physics rendering by many fold. this physx card is a supplement to their graphic card, which explain why it bare a weak card. oh and the physx card for pc cost 300 usd. also there wil be 4th-6th dimension compatible, which i think it is time related so i really dont know how it can be done as I'm not good a physics at all. And of course, I'm sure you all found out that most company now prefer bluray simply for its compacity.

Remember all those false report of Toshiba saying that their hd are being favored by most of hollywood studios and most business in the world, well sony could lie but who would choose 15gb over 25, stop being so stubborn and accept the fact that you will need these capacity sooner or later. Remember how Bill gate believe no one would ever need more than 64kb of ram when computer now can have 8 GB of ram= 8388608kb or ram. see the difference. and how most people believe floppy disk will remain for decades, they believe 1.44 mb was too much when at 1994 60mb are the average of data used in most media.

At this rate 25-50gb might not be anywhere close enough for us in 10 years, which is why sony thought it through and make blu ray capable of up to 8 layers making that a total of 200gb a disk.

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# ITS ALL VERY SIMPLEGuest 2006-07-20 11:27
the answer is quite abvious its simple really. xbox 360 and xbox always have shooting games action games the most. if u look at sony and nintendo its more rpg and adventure rpg, and little fun games that nintendo has and those kind of games are appealing to japanese games and community. i mean u wont see many if none japanese gamer play or chose Halo when he has the possibility of taking kingdom hearts or final fantasy i mean its mostly the games for the systems that make them famous. an if xbox and the 360 keep getting shooting and action games which they have a wholelotta!!!! they wont be able to get japanese gamers to like their console, i mean although these games may have succes with american gamers in japan its more adventure and rpg. ASK an xbox fan if he knows kingdom heart he'll tell u either things: if he heard of it he'll say its crap, if he hasn't well thats that. and that shows how xbox and the 360 only have a lot of a certain genre of games.

at school my xbox fans say "WELL WHAT GAMES DOES PS2 OR PS3 HAVE???!" WELL DUH ITS A SYSTEM IT HAS GAMES. an the fact u havent heard of them shows how ignorent u are and those very games for sony like (kingdom hearts damn i keep using that, lol) are like sold out the first freaken second their out in japan.

its all just simple. IF XBOX OR 360 KEEPS GETTING MORE ACTION AND SHOOTNG GAMES WELL.....yea.

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# To #14Guest 2006-07-20 11:50
I hear what you are saying but the Japanese will never change their tune. Even if they think that the 360 and PS3 are almost the same they will always go with Sony. Microsoft's sales will not go up. They tried to use a Japanese boy band to advertise the 360 but did it work....no. Trust me no matter what Microsoft does, people over there will hate Microsoft now and forever and all other American consoles.

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# its not because of the games...or the size.Vecha 2006-07-20 13:15
the ps3 is waaaay bigger then the 360...so obviously that throws the thought of "the 360 is big!" theory out the window...



and as I made a previous point...there are more rpgs set for release on the 360 then for the ps3...and only 2 less jrpgs...



I guess FF is really a strong assest to the ps3...

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# The Answer is Really ObviousGuest 2006-07-20 13:34
Uhh, Why hasn't anyone come up with.. Xbox sucks?

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# AGAIN!!Guest 2006-07-20 15:50
hmmm like im saying the amount of rpg commin for 360 wont help microsoft or japanese gamers like the 360 more and there's no way that they'll ever be more rpg's for xbob 360 than ps3 since most people own ps2 than xbob 360s and ps2 has (figure of speech:infinite rpgs) it already has a strong rpg base and ps3 well not come short of that. ps3 is just getting out and well sooon have its own set of rpg and sdventure games and since many more fans have the ps2 rpgs they'll go wit the ps3. u know its simple its a transition, thats "a" reason why i'll buy the ps3 even if it is 600 bucks and thats y many more japanese gamers well also same with nintendo and the wii. u got to understand xbox hasn't learned but is trying to by getting out more games for the 360 but even if it has 5 rpgs set to come out when the ps3 is out it will have more RPGs cuz the companies usually make rpgs for playstation and playstation games are mostly rog and adventure. PEOPLE GOTTA UNDERSTAND XBOX AND 360=ACTION GAMES AND SHOTING GAMES MAJORS PLAYSTATION 1 TO 3=RPG'S AND ADVENTURES MAJOR and they'll always rule in that area even if 360 has an adventage of getting a """"few"""""" rpg's b4 it.

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# EverythingGuest 2006-07-20 16:33
Its game selection and its american. Its *****ing sad the best 360 game it N3 and its Japanese made. I mean its a *****ing american system and the best game for it is japanese made. Americans dont make deverse games everything is to much the same.

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# ...Salty99 2006-07-20 17:03
Yeah really. I've been hearing all over on how 360 sales aren't going well in Japan. I guess 360's over there just didn't catch. I don't think Japan has a problem with Microsoft...Whatever. I want a PS3. I want a 360 too but I'll wait until I get a PS3 to make that decision. I have a feeling that the console underdog will catch quick in Japan, the Nintendo Wii.

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# whatever...Guest 2006-07-20 17:31
The Japanese are some of the most xenophobic people I've ever met. This DOES NOT mean I don't like them, as many of my friends are Japanese. But, in their hearts, a lot of them have a huge amount of pride in being Japanese. One of my friends married a Japanese woman, and some members of her family disagreed because he wasn't Japanese and their offspring wouldn't be "pure." Ask any of your friends who are mixed blood if they've ever experienced it.

When you hear them compare things, such as between the west and Japan - everything in Japan is better.

Let's stop glossing over the subject again and again - "traditional" is crap, because anyone who's anyone knows that after the Japanese empire fell apart, so did MOST of the tradition. It's just straight up xenophobia.

Why did a game like GTA, which did well not only in the US, but also in Europe and Hong Kong. hardly sell at all in Japan? Because it's a "gaijin game."

Think of yourselves. Maybe a lot of you play Japanese imports - but admit you (we) are a SMALL portion of gamers in the west that do this. Thsi is probably the same in Japan, where guys who buy an Xbox 360 do it for the exotic factor of playing a totally foreign game like Halo or Half-Life or something else.



Even if the Xbox 360 gets some great "Japanese" titles, it still won't do well. Companies like Sony and Nintendo have their heels dug way in over in the land of the rising sun, and I highly doubt any of the corrupt bastards in Tokyo running these businesses are going to let a guy like Bill Gates walk in and take all the winnings.

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# bull*****Vecha 2006-07-20 18:40
"EOPLE GOTTA UNDERSTAND XBOX AND 360=ACTION GAMES AND SHOTING GAMES MAJORS PLAYSTATION 1 TO 3=RPG'S AND ADVENTURES"



The 360 has like 9 rpgs coming out by next year....6 of which are jrpgs...



The ps3 right now only has like 10 or 11.



I don't think that is a big gap.



You people need to do some research then say..



"hmm...xbox has halo...so 360 must only have fps too!" or



"ps2 had ff! so ps3 must have more rpgs!" which is false.

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# cause of bushGuest 2006-07-20 18:47
The way mr danger, the dumbest puppet president has handle Iraq makes the USA look really bad, 90 dead people every day is not only a tragedy, it is also bad publicity for all things North American, I just want to see what happens in the two more years that he is in office.(inflation, lots of soldiers that wish they had died rather than have no arms or legs or skin, debt, sensorship, no stem cell funding, no comfy jobs for lazy americans, scared people blaming everybody else(illegal aliens) for their problems)

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# other countries...Vecha 2006-07-20 19:15
are waaaay more strict then america is with illegal aliens...



everyone thinks america is the most racist country in the world...



I find it funny that Japan gets pist off over a small small SMALL ass town of brizillians claiming they have a problem.



Then everyone believes america is the fattest country...



ever been to britian?

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# So it is racism!Annony 2006-07-20 19:52
That's very very sad.

They don't buy U.S. products, and then turn around and expect us to buy there sh*t. AND WE'RE DUMB ENOUGH TO DO IT!!



Makes me want to skip out on the Wii and PS3, just so I can support 'Made in America'



... oh, wait...

Japanese-made, American-made... ALL MADE IN TAIWAN!!!

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# DUUUUDE!! common nowGuest 2006-07-20 19:53
"The 360 has like 9 rpgs coming out by next year....6 of which are jrpgs..."

u dont need "research" to know that playstation has more of this inclination to rpg's than xbox. and yes the fast that xbox has had fps games does mean that 360 will also since it has a base there. dude u gotta understand that even to a xbox fan when they hear that name or even a japanese gamer upon hearing the name they see RPG. but when poeple hear xbox they automatically see halo. its that simple. ps3 rpg, xbox shooting and action.



and even thought they have 9 rpg commin out and however many jrpg u said commin out also for 360 that dont mean a damn thing since sony playstation has already built its incredibly large fans base due to its massive rpgs and adventure games it has and is well known for and those fans since they have either the ps or ps2 well carry on the games they have wit the ps3. that explains why japanese gamers arent as attracted to xbox. i mean xbox didn't really attract japanese fans as much as the ps2 did because it had more action based stuff that americans like. look at it like a first impression. i mean japanese gamers didn't buy no rpg's for xbox that they can carry on the 360, if anything they didn't even buy any rpg's that xbox had becuz ps2 had a strong base of rpg already.

u might think that 360 has the advabtage by realeasin 9 or a million rpg's out b4 sony or watever but the japanese gamers well only go to the ps3 has they are already familiar with the system's inclination in games or the system's games genre. if xbox had has many appealing rpg's as ps2 last gen, then this time around it would be diff and i would understand ur point on """oh xbox 360 has 9 rpgs comin out compared to 10 or 11 ps3 rpg""" but since the japanese gamers have grown to like the ps3 and its games its nearly impossible for them to like the xbox not to mention the 360.

its simple really. its more of like microsoft's fault for not establishin a strong base with rpgs makers b4 like sony did wit the ps2 or ps.

japanese gamers believe in 1st impression i guess, and ps2 was right on track and set up the ps3's pedestal thats why the 360 can't quite catch up to sony in terms of fan base in japan.

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# what?Vecha 2006-07-20 21:52
did i say advantage?



I was proving a point that dumbass(like you) look at the past and say



well the ps2...had rpgs...so the ps3 MUST have more then the 360...Even if they are rehased FF rpgs!



And xbox had Halo and fpss! so the 360 will be the same!



I never said this was an advantage...



I just find it funny that fanboys(like you) jump to conclusion when i state a FACT...and yes..research does help...makes you less IGNORANT..which you obviously are...a blind fanboy that looks to the past and even if the ps3 has nothing interesting(not saying it doesn't) you'd still buy it...for the sake of it being a SONY product and having a past of having a good line up of games(which if you look at launch...doesn't seem to really implying a good setup of games...sure the ps2 had a crappy launch...but if you don't look to the FUTURE..then you are a dumbass fanboy)









do some research before making yourself look ignorant.

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# for ps2, there are currently an average of 20 rpg released a month there in japan. oh and uhh you make yourself sound ignorant just now, vecha. sorryGuest 2006-07-21 02:24
this is no lie, you would be suprise how many never release in english and the western world. so a measly 9 rpg for a year compare to ps2's usual 200+ per year is a reason why they dont bother with xbox 360 if them being rpg fans are being the reason why xbox 360 are not used by them.

by the way vecha, the reason why ps2 is sold in japan is because dvd player were really pricey when ps2 came out so buying a ps2 was too good of a deal since it did come out 9 months before we from the western part of the world gets it.

sorry

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# I'm not surprised it took americans this long to realize the truth!!!!!Guest 2006-07-21 05:31
Most Americans are finally realizing that Japanese aren't our friends that they are made out to be by big wigs in the business industry, most American companies have set out to export American jobs overseas and we are a country who is almost completely dependant of other nation resources (primarily Japan), I personally have started boycotting Japanese related products but it is hard since most appliances comes from there. But the truth is its just not Japanese hating American based products-if anyone knows their history and knows how well the Japanese are traditional, my personal opinion(I may be wrong) I believe that they are retaliating for World War 2-when America went in there and atomized them, yes I know its been over 60 years and its outrageous that I say that but just think about who the big wig are and runs the major Japanese companies, its not just some Joe shmoe, but someone that was affected by the bombing from world war 2, and least to my thinking, how can you retaliate towards a country you cannot beat in combat, beat them with the economics game..... Example, you have japans companies buying major real-estate in America, they are often neglectful on purchasing any American products through the trading industry, look back over 10 years ago, America had to beg the Japanese to buy anything. Its a shame that no one is seeing this, I think their goal is to humiliate Americans and they have already pass the threshold, they own major properties in America, they provide America with the most technologies along with china(all regions), and their yen has more value than the American dollar, pretty soon, America might end up being a 3rd world nation if we cannot wake up and realize that not only Japan, but also middle east oil companies own America, what ever they dictate, we obey because we have no real control of anything anymore, I just wonder what these amercing companies are thinking and doing when they export jobs outside of the U.S.- I'm sorry that I may sound like I hate Japanese people but I don't... I believe they are very creative, original and intelligent people but they wouldn't be were they are at if Americans had not blew the atom bomb, Japan would have been more like north Korea right now but with more advanced weaponry.... heh, I know we are here to talk about the Xbox 360 and what Microsoft can do to improve it, my opinion on that is: stop selling Xbox there cause Japanese people are not going to buy it even if it was a 10 terabyte 250 Processor Core Chip with 900 Gigabyte of ram and a Quantum Physics Immersion reality graphics card. Japanese are taught from birth to support their own and the Japanese people who sway from that path are often disown (that’s one of their most traditional way of being) Yes their cultural lifestyle is very different from Americans but when you have a woman who looks like Jennifer Lopez, women like her is considered overweight there she is considered ugly, while women who are anorexic and looks like a child is considered HOT and beautiful. I don't know I dwelled on this long enough, Microsoft, you have better chances of selling the Xbox 360 to the North Koreans in which they can reverse engineer the technology and make bombs with them and blow the Japanese and Americans for being ignorant, lazy and most importantly..... GREEDY!!!! America is heading towards a new Germany(Nazi) path since most of the world hates us now and we are getting involved in everyone affairs and life in America is becoming more controlled-less freedom.



This was just some food for thought........

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# say what?Vecha 2006-07-21 07:25
"this is no lie, you would be suprise how many never release in english and the western world. so a measly 9 rpg for a year compare to ps2's usual 200+ per year is a reason why they dont bother with xbox 360 if them being rpg fans are being the reason why xbox 360 are not used by them.

by the way vecha, the reason why ps2 is sold in japan is because dvd player were really pricey when ps2 came out so buying a ps2 was too good of a deal since it did come out 9 months before we from the western part of the world gets it.

sorry"



I never said that the ps2 didn't have more jrpgs.



And the ps2 is not being sold because it is a cheap dvd player(right now) because it has a good line up of games.



Also...on the "rpgs" side of your debate...



The ps3 won't be releasing a rpg anytime soon....their launch has ZERO rpgs...an Action adventure(I thought the 360 was supposed to be the system with these...guess you were wrong) a fps(oh...how much is this NOT an rpg) a couple of more action adventures(oooo h they keep coming) and couple of racing games(wow..where are the 200+ rpgs now?)



The 360 on the other hand has a Jrpg coming out Next month..then two Jrpgs made by the man who brough us FF1-10 and those who brough us Chrono Cross(or trigger...doesn't matter both were great games).



The only thing microsoft has to deal with...is that the japanese don't want american products...the 360 has a great line up of games...compared to the Giant Crab and another Final Fantasy(which keep getting worse since 10)



I'll be getting a ps3...because there are a few good games..



But calling me Ignorant because I don't believe that the japanese are "waiting" for that 20+ rpgs a month is just plain retarded...



You are blind and ignorant to believe everything will be the same.





The fact that the 360 has 9 or more jrpgs planned(more then the xbox could ever dream to do) shows that the 360 is different.



Will it be better then the ps3? Never have said this...and if you take this comment as some attack against the ps3...go stare at pics of ps3s to get your insecurities streigneted out.



I loved the ps2 and ps3...but I never believe a console is better then any other.

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# agree wit 36Guest 2006-07-21 08:50
DAT WAS DEEP 36.........

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# ummGuest 2006-07-21 10:48
You people are god damn MORONS.

You dont know what the hell youre talking about saying the Japanese dont liek American products. Youre outta your damn mind. You know how much American stuff sells over there that they eat up like candy? You DO know the movies that come out of Hollywood Trounce ANY japanese made movie released over there? Do you know the % of Japanese youth/teens/young adults OBSESSED with hip hop? NOT to mention the amount of western clothing lines that sell there? Do you know that MS is Actually a POPULAR brand name there? PLENTY of western things sell like hot cakes in Japan.



However, ELectronics is a Different story. FOr decades Japanese electronics have been far superior. And NOW you dont understand why they dont buy a system that has MORE WESTERN style game with genres that dont sell so well in Japan? Does someone have to beat you over the head with a rock before you get it? Its the GAMES.... Xbox1 had pretty much 0 JRPGS, this obvious left a sour taste in gamers mouths, so WHY would they run out and buy the 360 when th elaunch lineup was VERY similar to the JXbox1 release? 360 May be getting a Jrpg next month or so, but its NO FF. 360 in Japan as it stands is for hardcore gamers. the stuff that sell a Lot in Japan is to the casual crowd for the most part. You also know that Metal Gear Solid sells far more units in the West then it does in japan? It comes down to the games.



Dont sit here spouting out garbage about JP hating american things. When the 360 game lineup lands exclusives from JP publishers, that are ALREADY POPULAR ESTABLISHED FRANCHISES, and matches the PS3 lineup in Japan THEN come to me and say stuff about WHY people are not buying it. As it stands, most of the Major J360 games that show the most promise wont be out till this winter, and next YEAR.



Youre one sides arguments are stupid.



the FACt remains that the 360 and Xbox1 lack popular franchises that sell Millions of units in japan.

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# silly boy.Vecha 2006-07-21 12:02
The ps3 has a sucky ass launch lineup..hell even the ps2 did.



So why are they buying the ps3? 600$ for FF?



Don't think so.



Blue Dragon and Lost Odyssey could easily topple FF If it was on the ps3.



The 360 had 19 titles...the ps3 will have about 10...none of those for the ps3 are jrpgs...hardly even reflect what japan enjoys..WarHawk? Resistance fall of man?



Yea sure.



The 360 is alot different from the xbox...I was hardly hyped for the xbox...but with the 360...it's a different story...



FF.DMC.MGS...for 600$



Blue Dragon. Lost Odyssey. Enchant Arm(out next month). Mass Effect. Jade empire 2. Splinter cell. For 400$?



The Japanese don't want an american Electronic product.



The 360 wouldn't sell in japan even if Blue Dragon was out right now.

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# why always refering to ps3Guest 2006-07-21 12:33
I have an xbox 360 and at this point i'm really disapointed.

There is no game go enough for me.... Where's the Next-gen stuff! I really want to love my xbox 360 but from the bottom of my heart, i know that is going to stay at the same level than xbox 1. The jap feel the same thing..... i think. Why the jap will buy something elsewhere when they master it in there own country.



Ah and for the next gen stuff, when xbox 360 will have it, it's gonna be to late. Xbox have 1 year before the competition.



....It's like the rabbit and the turtles.

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# what?Vecha 2006-07-21 12:48
"I have an xbox 360 and at this point i'm really disapointed.

There is no game go enough for me.... Where's the Next-gen stuff! I really want to love my xbox 360 but from the bottom of my heart, i know that is going to stay at the same level than xbox 1. The jap feel the same thing..... i think. Why the jap will buy something elsewhere when they master it in there own country.



Ah and for the next gen stuff, when xbox 360 will have it, it's gonna be to late. Xbox have 1 year before the competition.



....It's like the rabbit and the turtles."



no next gen stuff?



FN3 isn't next gen?



I guess War Hawk and Resistance fall of man is?



Let's not forget Heavenly sword.



What exactly is next gen? Graphics? Gameplay?



I'd say Nitendo wii takes the medal for most innovative.



Sony has most graphic games?



Don't think so...the launch games look nothing like their CGI counterparts shown...and when they show real gameplay footage...it looks as good as launch games for the 360.



Have you seen all games for the 360? And what is to come?

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# TO VECHAGuest 2006-07-21 13:20
well said number 39



AND VECHA or watever ur name is ur closed minded well guess i can't change that but hey guess what with all those million games commin out for 360 all those million rpgs ur talking bout commin out for 360 or so it wouldn't help the system sell more in japan, wanna know y? cuz what i said is right. an when i talked bout ps2 having rpgs i was gettin my point across ur bulky head by saying that ps2 has set the pedestal by having rpgs that are games which japan loves and since they already own those games and are more familliar wth the ps they would automatically love the ps3 plus they would have ps2 games that would follow up on the ps3 so it makes since that they like it more. xbox had no rpg's that japanese gamers like and wasn't as popular as the ps2 was so microsoft cant expect to WOOOOO!!!!! THE JAPANESE GAMERS BY just now starting to make million rpgs. i understand they have rpgs for 360 but they are just making them this time around for the 360 and japanese gamers are already attracted to ps2 and its games genre so thats y they hate 360. There u go VECHA and dont be too quick to lose ur temper it makes u less of a man.

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# lose my temper?Vecha 2006-07-21 13:31
Did I ever say I expect Microsoft to WOOO the japanese population? You are jumping to conclusions.



Never said there were a million rpgs coming out either.



The ps1 showed up one year and "wooed the population" very easily. Sure microsoft is in its second year...but what does that have anything to do with it?





You aren't making a point man. What is your point?



Read my posts again...I was showing the japanese population mostly wants sony because it is Sony.



The launch list for the ps3 has NO rpgs....so obviously dumbass they don't care for the rpgs at the present but Expect(yes they predict and expect) that the rpgs will come flowing just like they did on the ps2.





Akira Toriyama and the man beind FF 1-10 along with the man who did the music score for FF7 and other...are making Blue Dragon...



But obviously it isn't enough...the Japanese population doesn't want an original Rpg...they want a Rehash of FF.



"makes you less of a man"



less of a man?...I think you need to stop losing your temper...and stop exagerating.

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# KEKEKEKEKEKEGuest 2006-07-21 21:43
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# VECHAGuest 2006-07-22 02:36
vecha the world doesn't revolve around u and when i say stuff im not talking bout u only, im talking bout other people out there that are as stubborn as u. when i said that "so microsoft cant expect to WOOOOO japanese gamers i wasnt saying its something u said i was just pointing out a fact. by all means i know u wouuldn't say something like that i mean u dont even understand figurative speech for gads sake. ur not up to that level of intellect, an i'll stop arguin wit u for that kind of a matter.



and one more thing "The ps1 showed up one year and "wooed the population" very easily. Sure microsoft is in its second year...but what does that have anything to do with it?"

well duh think of two high teck corporations. when ur successful by selling ur products line for a while and customers like it and then another corporations starts selling the same product line a few months or years after, with the same prices and products, who do u think "most" of the customers will go with?? the new corporation or the one they are most familliar with, which is btw still going strong.



if u can't get that in ur head an thats common sense then ur wastin my time.



losing my temper lol, pleaz.

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# 360 dual hdmiGuest 2006-07-22 07:05
mr danger still sucks, lets change the subject, how about dual hdmi? the 360's a/v port is just like a video card right? so it has dvi and vga plus video right just like two 6200 nvidia card so it can do hdmi, so if you add anorther hdmi like the pictures of the new 360 motherboard, then they are going to put another hdmi port plus the one they already have in the a/v port equals dual hdmi. right? that would sure attract a lot of Japanese people, and it would atract me too.

o yeah if you make a mistake the only way to learn and grow from it is to admit you made a mistake and fes up to it(Iraq), sorry had to put that in.

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