I didn't buy L4D at $60 because after reading up on it I came to the conclusion it wasn't worth anywhere near that. I won't buy this either



Not gonna get worked up about it for that reason alone, but I have lost some respect for Valve. They deff should not be releasing a full priced sequel so soon, especially since L4D was pretty barebones to begin with. All I've seen from L4D2 is that it has the same amount of scenarios, 5, a few new weapons and new chars who don't seem nearly as interesting as the ones in the first game.



RIP Louis - "Grabbin peels!!!"

Call of duty has new games every year, it's L4D it's a good game, quit winning and just buy it on release or wait a week or two and still buy it, cause you know your going too.

this is the industry's fault really...



before DLC people would of loved a sequel that broke the standard 2-3yr cycle.



now that they can overcharge for bits of content and raised the initial cost, people expect to get more out of their investment.



i must admit i was a bit dismayed to hear that mass effect would only get one more DLC mission (for a total of 2) before ME2.

Valve doesn't set their own limits on what size DLC can be, Microsoft does, and it's 1.5gb for expansions. I remember hearing when Rockstar released their first GTA expansion they struggled to make it under that mark.



I believe Valve that this is probably too big to be an expansion, but I don't think it should be a $60 game when it comes out. Too early to say for sure, but it just doesn't look like a ton of content to me, especially if the campaigns are the same size as the first.



Something else most people don't know about MS and size limits, is the quick-fix patches developers put out for games. MS limits those to 5mb. That's why they always download so fast, and why most games can't get a major overhaul via a patch, there's only so much you can do with 5mb.

COD has a history of releasing games each year. I buy COD games a year, used, down the road because I don't expect big updates and honestly, why buy them new if they are essentially updates. I buy valve games the day of release because they told me, and I believed, that they would expand and continue to expand as time goes by. Heck, I would gladly pay for those expansions.

But, this has even the most dedicated Valve fanatic scratching their heads feeling screwed.



What they really need to do is release a FREE level for L4D1, RIGHT NOW before people get really really pissed off.

They would get a lot of people to be happy and buy their second game if they only released one more campaign for L4D. Id do it right as i was relasing L4D2. That would send the message...here the new game, and heres a pack to show you we are still working on the old one! Once the full sdk is out, fun will roll also. I'm already having a blast playing user made levels.