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Two players get the banhammer until year 9999 for playing Halo 3 too early

Posted Sep 8, 2007 at 8:34AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Xbox 360 Tags: Bungie Studios, Microsoft, Uno

Good things come to those who wait. Bad things land on the laps of those who just can't. This sad but mournfully true adage was once again proven by two Xbox 360 owners who were just a bit too eager to play Halo 3 Epsilon. And play they did, but not after logging onto Live first - which meant that practically everyone who knew of their gamertags could plainly see that they were enjoying the highly-anticipated sequel even before the retail version hit storeshelves.

And for it, they were banned from Xbox Live. Up to the year 9999. Certainly a long time for both players to sit and think about the consequences of their actions.

So, what really happened? As it turns out, both players had been messing around with illegal copies of Halo 3 Epsilon a day or so before they were hit with a rather large banhammer. The first player, dak Is back, was merely letting his console update Uno when all of a sudden, he was disconnected from Live. A couple of reconnection attempts later, he got the message saying that he was, indeed, banned from Live. The other player, Scar, also received a similar fate while trying to recover a profile.

While it seems that Microsoft and Bungie is being a bit heavy-handed on the punishments, violating the Terms of Usage is also quite the infraction. So remember, dear readers, if in doubt, remember the banhammer. Patience is a virtue for a reason.

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They more than likely work at a gaming store and once they got their shipment in they decided to take one home. I work at The Game Shop here in Liverpool, we sometimes get games in a week before the release date, sometimes even longer. The only game Ive taken home and played before it went on sale was Guitar Hero 2 for 360. Meh, oh well...

# lol — Guest 2007-09-08 10:53

cant they just make a new account or buy a new 360 ms is really stupid they think they have everything figured out people steal games all the time its just they gave a gay date to send out halo 3 why didnt they just send it on the 1st of september ***** the hype just give us the damn game already ***** i would have stolen it 2 but im not that effing stupid only the kids whos fathers work there got to play theyre just 2 stupid like my friend who works at the stores yeah when halo 3 comes in im gonna skip work and play it before every1 wow who cares we will all play the same game come sept 25th but that wait is too long W I L F #!@(! figure out everyone

# . — Guest 2007-09-08 11:17

Good for Microsoft, beside they can do whatever they want. I would have done the same. It's obvious that the games were not ligit so it puts Microsoft in a position of power. They can't cut their balls off so banning them is small punisment. Personnaly I would have bricked their 360 just for spite.

# lol — Guest 2007-09-08 11:17

at least they got to play halo 3 before us

not like i give a Cra....ckdown...towards what happened...halo 3 is just big because of all the n00b fanboys...there are lots of better games comming up, way better than halo 3...

# exactly! — Guest 2007-09-08 11:17

thats exactly what I was thinking, only I would have used punctuation, proof-reading and general outlining before I put that dribble down for the world to see.

# sasdfsadg — Guest 2007-09-08 11:19

I doubt they need a new xbox, just a new account and IP address.

# ? — Guest 2007-09-08 11:24

How is it possible to get an "illegal copy" of epsilon?

Everyone is reporting they just "got it" but now how they got it.

# 10 — Guest 2007-09-08 11:29

it was actually 10 guys he received this ban, not 2

# lol — Guest 2007-09-08 12:00

they have to wait 7,000 + years to play halo 3. haha.

# Online game — Guest 2007-09-08 12:51

So they were just playing by themselves.... worthless.

# You guys are stupid — Guest 2007-09-08 13:06

They are playing the epsilon because they did the profile glitch to download it. They do not have the actual game itself (it doesnt ship for another week). And there are more than just 10 people who were banned for this. Try like 100s.

# . — Jobo50 2007-09-08 13:13

It bans your xbox, not your XBL account.

Which is smart, because then you can't just make a new account, and yet it sucks because now that Xbox 360 can never play online again :)

# dear god... — Guest 2007-09-08 13:14

That is brutal.

# AoxomamoxoA — ConXept 2007-09-08 14:34

It says you don't exist on xbox live when i try to add you.

'sublime1985'

Btw If the sublime in your name refers to the band, I'm the guitarist in a sublime cover band.

RIP BRADLEY NOWELL

# Epsilon is the single player beta not the real game. — Guest 2007-09-08 15:33

Epsilon only has a few single player missions on it, its an exclusive beta program for the single player of halo 3. What a lot of people did was a profile exploit that someone found, this allowed people to download the beta for the single player campaign. i guess ms didn't like the fact of people sneaking into the beta without permission

# AoxomamoxoA — Guest 2007-09-08 16:06

It wasn't a hard copy of Halo 3, it was the Halo 3 Epsilon which is an internal Halo 3 test given only to MS and Bungie employees and a few select friends of Bungie. It is downloaded from Xbox Live.

What they did is the whole they know a guy who knows a guy etc etc thing, at the start of this is a guy who somehow got the Epsilon (legally), and two people told him they had a Project Gotham Racing 4 beta. They agreed to swap accounts, the guy with Epsilon would get to dl PGR4 beta and the guys with PGR4 beta would get Epsilon. Well, the guy with Epsilon gave is account info first, since I guess he was very eager to play a PGR4 beta that doesn't exist, and as soon as the guys got his info they just left him hanging and went to download the beta. They then proceeded to pass this guy's info out to a lot of people who were all banned for playing it (like someone below me said, more than two people got the OVER 9000 year ban), these guys mentioned in the story got it from someone who had the info and they say they didn't know it was stolen. That's pretty much it, and the two mentioned here say MS is thinking about lifting the ban.

# halo 3 — Guest 2007-09-08 16:31

It sucks they just cant get a new 360 and still play it.

# ma address — Guest 2007-09-08 16:35

not if you change the NIC

# really smart — Guest 2007-09-08 16:38

Thats smart microsoft, put out a prized beta out on your public internet gaming service.NOBODIES gonna get to it there,cause im sure your security is TOP NOTCH over at ms headquarters.

# how lame — Guest 2007-09-08 16:41

This is why you don't buy xbox or xbox live. MS is just power hungry to kick it's own members offline. Enjoy getting banned on live kids, or step up to the real power of the PS3.

# OMG — Guest 2007-09-08 16:45

year 9999- are we talking about that........

# f*ck off — Guest 2007-09-08 16:46

f*ck off 'wow' - 'step up to the real power of ps3' and play what? resistance? warhammer? i'll pass thanks

# This is *****ed up, i had a sililar problem before......seriously! — Guest 2007-09-08 17:18

My xbox 360 and xbox live account got suspended. I for some reason could not play games.

I was banned for what they called "unprovocked racist act on xbox live" on forza. Apparently they banned me because i had customized my car whith a swastika and words saying "white pride". Now, not only was i banned from xbox live but my xbox 360 stoped booting discs when inserting into tray. fUUCKING diick sucking jew that is bill gates, I HOPE THEY DIE.

WHITE POWER.

# my gamertag was.....? — Guest 2007-09-08 17:22

By the way my gamertag is AryanWorld9981

# Yeh ban the white boy, i hear you brother... — Guest 2007-09-08 17:27

If a black guy had "black pride" or jew had "jewish pride" and symbol of star of david(which i find offensive) wouldn't have gotten kicked. Microsoft is a jewish shiit hole.

# man oh man it suck to be them — Guest 2007-09-08 18:17

ok so there banned for a reall long time and oh by the way for the people who dont know this when you sign up for XBL you give them your address name number zip everything they need to find there asses and bring them to jail baby

i hope they go to jail *****ing cheap bastard wait like the rest of us and dont steal the *****ing game that we pay alot of money for god dam people and they were dumb for signing online to.

and if i read the forum right there XBL ACCOUNT IS BANNED TO and there xbox 360

thanks microsoft and bungie

# how lame — Guest 2007-09-08 18:52

This is why you don't buy xbox or xbox live. MS is just power hungry to kick it's own members offline. Enjoy getting banned on live kids, or step up to the real power of the PS3.

# baaaaastards! — Guest 2007-09-08 18:59

fuucking jews

# Your Company? — Guest 2007-09-08 19:11

Stealing is wrong, if you ran your own company and your own video game console company and some random glitch kiddies stole your game - epsilon beta thingy or played the hard copy before it was meant to be played. Wouldn't you try todo something about it? However 9999yrs is a very long time. I believe microsoft was being harsh in that manner. I believe a ban atleast until the release date of halo 3 would have been more suitable or a summons.

# If it were on a disk they could just play offline... — Guest 2007-09-08 19:25

Then nobody ever knows...

but now they can just get new Xboxes and new accounts and it's back to playtime.

# haha xbots getting screw by M$ — Guest 2007-09-08 21:27

As I remember xbots are never anger at M$ no matter what, aren't you bunch xtards infinitly loyal and self-sacraficing to always please M$. It's okay if they slam the hammer on ya with penalties thounsands of times longer that any death penalty I've ever heard of. Don't worry about it you're a loyal fan just be a good boy and bend down so they can stick it anywhere they want it. But you must put a smile on your face at all times so show your dedication. M$ loves you so much Bill is willing to punish you for just 7,992 years...ah isn't that sweet he is such a nice and Sony is bad they won't punish you. So don't forget to express your love for M$ because we all know xbots like to be punish like naughty full grown women on their back. So xbot show your appreciation and M$ and repeat after me. I love M$ because I love to be hammer in the ass for 7992 years and please keep the unethically outrageous punishments come....I llove you M$.

# 9999 — shabghai360 2007-09-08 23:20

its just a number, and for MS to ban a person from doing what they have a right to do would not hold in any court. A simple letter of apology and wait 3 weeks and the ban would be lifted. MS is not that stupid. The 9999 is just a simple ban response from an automated program not from some guy in an office. However some form of reprimand is justified. Halo whether we are fans or not we have to wait. Its a major release and for MS its the game that sold the xbox. The 3rd part Halo 3 has indeed received a lot of hype and many people worldwide have been waiting a long time to play it. In fairness to the rest of the community that really look forward to getting Halo 3 it is a real slap in the face if MS do nothing about the few who find away to get and play publicly online before the rest of us.

In fairness to kids who just cant wait and do foolish things it would be a little less harsh if MS were to change their automated apps that register (misdeeds) and implemented an automatic 30 day ban from the time that the alarm was tripped.

I do not support MS in this ban to 9999 but i would be pissed at MS if they did nothing. I also want to play Halo 3 and would not like knowing that some are but I still have to wait.

As with everything on this site with regard to MS or Sony it becomes a pissing match. Who can piss further or in this particular case it has become downright rascist. I dont give a ***** what colour you are. If your wrists are slit we all bleed the same colour red.

And people do not bother to reply as after one month in this site I will after this post remove al links to this area as it is a site I will no longer visit.

Most of the comments here do nothing to promote gaming or to make my life more interesting. When there is so much fun to be had with the games available regardless of your platform choice I find it tedious that every posted article becomes a playground for wankers from both consoles.

# What Good games does the PS3 offer — Guest 2007-09-09 01:43

that the 360 does not?

# inbreeders — Guest 2007-09-09 02:45

sounds like you 3 are members of mensa

# stealing? — Guest 2007-09-09 04:42

how is stealing a game wrong? you dl numbers and letters off the internet and burn them to a disk. i ask you who is the victim???? the jealous neighbor that has to pay 60+$ and is angry? that victim, or the uber rich greedy Ms?? im sure they are hurting for my 60 bucks.

# huh — Guest 2007-09-09 04:57

Dude, you're a retard.

# ? — Guest 2007-09-09 05:25

nothing personal to you, but why is it that people say 'pwnage'? It's Such a nerd/geek insult. Just like 'Noob' and 'Fanboy' and the phrase 'Owned'. Its just a bunch of crap. In fact, you are all a bunch of nerds and i am never coming on this website again. Good Bye!

# yeah — Guest 2007-09-09 07:49

they'll still be banned when the xbox 999999999999999 999999999999999 9999 comes around.....awsome

# Um — Apu 2007-09-09 08:12

Warhawk.

# @? — Stealth! 2007-09-09 09:21

No one gives a flying S.H.I.T If you don't the words or not coming back here, your an idiot plain as day.

# qpalzm — Guest 2007-09-09 09:22

ha ha

M$ bans the console from live not just the account,. They have to buy a new 360 in order to play live again.

still they got pwned

# P$3 Fan*****s — Guest 2007-09-09 10:21

Its Funny how you PSN Store doesnt have shiit and you guys try to flame 360 Fans for nothing, dont get mad because every P$3 Fan usaully proxy all those crap games and the reason M$ bans their Xbox Live accouts is to show they are not joking about this lauynch just like if Hideo Kojima wanted to keep MGS4 under wraps and some idiot comes and spreads the whole game on the net, believe me $ony would have done the same thing. and to tell you the truth WARHAWK sucks, its not that great it doesnt even have music XD

# A Comment — Guest 2007-09-10 00:23

Halo sucks.

# . — Guest 2007-09-10 00:44

While I would agree the 9999 is more than likely an arbitrary number and will be manually pulled at a given date in the near future, I would disagree with you when you say this ban wouldn't hold up under a civil tort challenge.

The individuals in question agreed to Microsoft's terms of conduct when they joined xbox live, or if they were company representatives as some have suggested, they signed a more comprehensive and indepth contract. Either way, they were clearly in violation in regards to their xbox live subscription, and Microsoft is legally entitled to void their contract and is not legally bound to provide them with service.

# duh! — Guest 2007-09-10 06:25

Well ofcourse, 1 in 3 360s die from the RROD. Why would they make their system able to live that long? :)

# haha xbots — Guest 2007-09-10 12:31

you stupid xbots and your "straight" sexuality! you all know that being gay and owning a ps3 is the wave of the future! Blue-ray and ass ramming is the only way to live! hahahaha ***** all you straight xbox360 owners!!!

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