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Microsoft retracts: We never said we had 1 million banned XBL accounts

Posted Nov 22, 2009 at 9:22PM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: Xbox 360 Tags: Marc Whitten, Microsoft, xbox 360 titles
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Xbox Live - Image 1The one million ban that Microsoft pulled on its Xbox Live players with modded console units now have been flagged as a mere "overestimate". Yep, the numbers have supposedly been exaggerated, despite their initial claims that it was at 1 million.

XBL General Manager Marc Whitten is responsible for this "admission," in an interview with Venture Beat. Said Whitten, that number did not come from them, and that they never claimed to have banned that much gamers from the XBL.

He did not address, however, the news that came out that Microsoft did order their XBL call center agents to unleash the banhammer on one million subscribers.



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# lolvizard00 2009-11-22 23:59
Theysaid it ,



i saw it with my eyes , the director of security of XBL , said it in a chat in IRC , and he confirmed hes identity on twiter .



They aim 1 mil , and this reaction in not about 1mil no but about the Law sue again them .



ther game is known now , stop hacking and breaking peoples Datas M$

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# lolmigeto 2009-11-23 03:42
Yea that lawsuit is gonna ***** them now, plus that other lawsuit about the guy who got banned when his xbox wasn't modded

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# omg..jrb 2009-11-23 04:33
seriously, are you guys making comments really that stupid?



Microsoft did nothing wrong. If you hack the console, and download games (which, oddly, banned people are not denying they did) you are in direct violation of EULA, which you all agreed to when you signed up for XBL.



Really, does it matter if Microsoft banned 1, or 1,000,000 hacked xboxes/accounts? The point is they banned people that had directly violated the EULA. Not only did each and every one of them deserved to be banned from XBL, but Microsoft did the right thing, and they are within their rights.



perhaps site should be renamed to QQjnet with the amount of whiners and people with mal-aligned ideas of entitlement that hang out here.

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# novizard00 2009-11-23 05:24
yes banning and hacking is bad , and M$ should not hack people too , retriving data from people PC , phone , or website , without autorisation is again LAW . and and doing this is called back door trojan , yes a silent process with no advise , seriusly



flashing the console

cripting HDD files



and the worse is many anmoded x360 was banned .



M$ is slashing hevily x360 players before xmas .



that is a direct direct violation of people right and privacy .

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# vizard00 2009-11-23 05:28
sry for my english

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# I would say...ShinseiTom 2009-11-23 05:35
that they went further than their EULA/ToS "rights" allowed. I've read that their banning from Live also screws up your console somehow offline, which shouldn't be happening. If you violated something to do with their online service, it should NOT affect your offline abilities, such as rendering your hard-drive unusable or messing up your saves.



I think that's the main point of contention with the lawsuit. Did Microsoft go too far when they screwed your offline abilities when banning you from an online service, or was it completely within their rights?



Although hackers and pirates don't get much sympathy from me, it does seem in this case Microsoft went further than should be allowed.

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# lolvizard00 2009-11-23 06:08
jrb -@



hacked accounts u said lol ,



its clear that M$ is taking advantage of hiden troja, included in xbox360 to ban the console MAC adress wich is normal , but disabling xbox live account without refund is ripping , also what about people saves and personal data , no my $riend , as sony said , M$ will take it on face this time . all my friends have original games a,d spent money in xbox live now they are banned , they have moded xbox 360 but i dont see why to break people personal stuff ...



the court will judge for this



hey apple : you can break all jailbreaked iphone

M$ : you can break any pc with a no official hdd or memory

Nokia : go for it break all unlocked nokia's



M$ why are so greedy again young peoples who buy your console ,



just remember your story on XP while you retrived informations from PCs

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# ^sony_player 2009-11-23 07:28
People were stealing from Microsoft so MS stepped in and stopped it, there's nothing wrong with that. Besides, anyone willing to fight it is going to get nailed with piracy fines which will cost way more than they'll get from Microsoft.

@Vizard. You're obviously not from America, so please don't act like you know anything about American laws.

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# ...symbal 2009-11-23 08:42
I've only had my 360 less than a month and haven't bothered to hack it, i'm thinking about signing up to XBL but i bought the thing second hand so had to have a good look to see if it has been hacked before, luckily it hasn't but what about other people who bought one and got caught out like this? There's no way they can prove they didn't break MS's T&C's.

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# Man...Teivin 2009-11-23 14:47
First off, if the news was 'official' the dude sure would be fired.



Oddly, no such press release, news tidbit, commentary from the peanut gallery or anything else can find a single solitary hint that this supposed 'director of security' has been removed. (Or that, any of this touted discussion came from him. I mean, really? Some people like to cling to rumors.)



As an aside, the data on the 360 is messed up because its tied to a gamertag+consol e ID. The tag is, funny enough, owned by Microsoft once you sign up to XBL. They can do whatever they want with it. You agree to that, twice, before you even get on XBL and get any data onto your HDD.



People need to cry a little less. They *****ed up, they got *****ed. In the end, MS has the legal right to not only have the people who do this arrested (Read the DMCA people, its in there.) but can seek monetary damages of a ludicrous amount for every single game they find.



That is the reality of pirating.



It is /not/ legal to own a backup of anything anymore. Especially not in a closed system like a console+game. The games are protected. Any attempt to copy them and remove or circumvent the protection is illegal.



Even if backups were legal (Which they arent) you'd have to make them using all your own hardware/software, you wouldnt be able to download them or download instructions on how to make any of it. Thats another part of the legal ramifications of backups. (Did you know? You can make legal backups of non-protected software like SNES cartridges if you make your own dumper.)



tl;dr People are stupid. As the mighty intarwebz decrees, 'pics or it didn't happen'.

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# i knew the risk when i got my 360 moddedLink75e 2009-11-23 19:52
i got it and it got banned oh well i was bound to happen sooner or later. I used it for those games where im like should i buy it or not. I have real copies of games i think are worthy of being purchased like fallout 3 and halo ODST oh and modern warfare 2. MS did take mymoney even though my 360 was banned before and i called them up and they didnt want to refund it even though my live is no more. I switched my netflix to ps3 thats great timing with the disk too maybel ill check out mag now. Not buying another 360 though thats it for me i dd love it though guess ill use it for dvd player only or one player games.

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# LOLSP0RE89 2009-11-23 22:09
It's enough u have to pay to play online anyway why can't they just take the money people give them and just leave everyone alone its there fault for making a weak system that can be moded by a 4 year old.Thats why i have the ps3 free online and no one hacks.although 360 has some okay games like fable,halo and gears of war it's not worth all the momey for battries, xbl gold & all the other crap u need to buy.I will never buy A xbox & to people who get pissed from people hacking just buy a ps3 lol

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# yes butvizard00 2009-11-24 01:38
listen man all what have u said is true exept the gamertag , i dont think the gamertag has anything to do with hardware ID since any guest on on my house can assing a his gamertag on My moded xbox 360 and get baned so is that what you mean ,



no this is abvious .



also



the processe of banning is ilegal , as ive said , M$ do not have right to baypass our reuters and networks without people autorisation , bcz if they can , so all xbox360 oxner data is on m$ mercy .



M$ made a multy agression aroun the world and should now unban all xbox360 and stop hacking people .



and the accure not only from moding but 3d party HDD and mayby auter things not related to piracy , but gamer good been .



ref



ps3 : use any hdd , memory or accesory

WII : use any accesory

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# ps3 fanboy here...gammy69er 2009-11-24 19:19
OK, so i am opinionated to one direction, but everyone who use a cracked 360 deserved to get blocked out. M$ can't affect you hardware, only your Software/Firmware (which they OWN, you never truly own it yourself). They can alter and change it as they wish, as part of the EULA, and this can/will effect how your machine works. If you are NOT ONLINE, they can't change it - simple as that.



I would definately own a 360 for Cracking and burning games, but just wouldn't go online (till chips and CFW's had been input). Paying to play online is just rediculous to me as i'm already paying power and internet to get online.



Unfortunately, the only way people will be able to get functionality back is to flash the system and rebuild (i never looked into whether this is possible either)



To All whom have not been banned - take what you can and get offline now - otherwise you could loose all decent functionality of your system (well, i use the term "Decent" very loosly - Fanbot dig :P)

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# FunnyLuciddreamin92 2009-11-25 08:00
How Microsoft would spend money to try to block hackers but not waste a single penny on trying to fix the red ring of death



and isnt it weird that Steam is free but not XBL?

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