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Major Nelson clarifies too: No new console, we're not even halfway through this cycle

Posted Jun 19, 2009 at 6:16PM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: Xbox 360 Tags: Aaron Greenberg, Larry Hryb, Major Nelson, Microsoft, Steve Ballmer, xbox 360 titles

Oh that was certainly quite a ruckus Steve Ballmer stirred up this week for Microsoft, wasn't it? After Aaron Greenberg came rushing to the rescue to clarify that there will be NO new console by 2010, even Larry Hryb (aka Major Nelson) has spoken out to express that a new console is out of the question cos the Xbox 360 is all set with the company's support "long into the next decade."

The XBL Director of Programming in fact said that Micrsoft is "not even halfway through the current console generation cycle." To quote:

As the Xbox team stated at E3 two weeks ago, we are not even halfway through the current console generation lifecycle and believe Xbox 360 will be the entertainment center in the home for long into the next decade. Project Natal will be an important part of this platform, but we have not confirmed a launch date at this time.

He did not, however, necessarily confirm that they are working on a new Xbox 360 SKU to be paired exclusively with Project Natal.

Via Major Nelson

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They don't know how to make a Slim model cause it would break in one minute cause of 4 red lights.

They really don't know **** because there money grubbers and let there machines break on purpose.

Thank God Microsoft is around cause there machines really do break too easily.

I spent too much money on that thing to break, so screw 360.

# ... — _ME_ 2009-06-19 22:10

MS treats all their hardware as if its software... beta models and expects consumers to help fix them. Works for software (or rather consumers put up with it!) but fails for hardware.

I also have other MS hardware and they are all pieces of $hit.

# ^^^ Which MS hardware do you have? — Jez 2009-06-19 23:59

Can you specify the Microsoft hardware you have which has a record of problems like the 360, and therefore has been giving you (and many others) problems?

Last gen, the original model of PS2 was well known for the DRE (Disk Read Error) problem, and I can clearly recall the same kind of BS from fanboys at the time, where they used it as their opportunity to claim all Sony products are unreliable, and that they have other Sony products too.

Going back to YAMI's post, last gen, many claimed Sony deliberately made the PS2 unreliable so that gamers had to buy multiple consoles. Was it true? Of course not, but the DRE problem made it was easy for gamers to take cheap shots at Sony.

The fact is, these things happen, that's life, just like the easily scratched screens of the first Apple Nanos and the faulty analog stick and dead pixels of the first PSPs, and so on. It's not deliberate, since the companies don't benefit from such problems, they lose out.

The original XBox didn't have the problems of the 360, so I doubt the successor will. The original Playstation didn't have any major problems, but the PS2 did with DRE, and yet the PS3 is fine.

Next gen, it may be Sony again with problems, or MS, or even Nintendo, but hopefully none of them. We'll see.

# Jez — symbyosis 2009-06-20 00:39

Yep, I agree with the PS2 thing, PS2 is by far a bigger piece of crap than the RRoDing 360. At the time, it was YOUR problem solely when it came down to it breaking. Atleast MS give you 3 years on RRoD. So I don't see why people would be whining about it if the cost is from MS's pocket and not yours.

# ps1 — nulcase 2009-06-20 00:44

what do you mean the first playstation had no major problems you dont remember hearing people having to turn their systems sideways or completely upside down to get the system to work they finally fixed the problem with the 3 make of the console

# Thanks nulcase — Jez 2009-06-20 01:06

I forgot about that problem with the original Playstation.

Hence it highlights further what I was saying, i.e. that these things happen and can happen to and company at anytime, and therefore makes a nonsense of the comments here from 'YAMI ANUBIS X' and '_ME_'.

# @Jez — Navani 2009-06-20 02:50

Last gen, the original model of PS2 was well known for the DRE (Disk Read Error)

The fact is, these things happen, that's life, just like the easily scratched screens of the first Apple Nanos and the faulty analog stick and dead pixels of the first PSPs, and so on. It's not deliberate, since the companies don't benefit from such problems, they lose out.

You keep saying "first", implying that they were fixed. 360 red rings still happen. Although.. I've modded my 360, brought it with me to the Philippines and back, beat the hell out of it, no red rings. My neighbor never moved his 360, well ventilated, red rings.

# @Navani — rollypoly 2009-06-20 03:20

he didn't say they never occur anymore...

he just said the first runs were notorious for it.

i'm sure plenty of people had DREs with PS2s outside the first run... i wouldn't know after my PSX stopped reading discs regardless of how i set the system, i swore i would never buy a PS2. after all my sega saturn still to this day works fine...

did sony ever offer anything other than the standard 1yr warranty to cover obvious manufacturing defects? no.

so kudos to m$ for making any effort to not give their customers the shaft.

# ... — zeromatrix75 2009-06-20 03:51

360 has other hardware problems like disc scratching and such too. My problem is that MS already knew about these problems before hand. Sure there was problems with other consoles in the past but not so frequent and so grave as 360. Its as if they launched prototype models in the beginning

# did they? — rollypoly 2009-06-20 04:52

if they knew, then they could of saved ungodly amounts of money by not having to replace them...

and since m$ is so uber greedy, that just doesn't make sense.

maybe they weren't as diligent in QC as they should of been... knowingly costing themselves hundreds of millions of dollars, highly unlikely.

disc scratching is a user error issue... as i've stated before none of the 5 360s i've owned have ever scratched a disc b/c i'm a competent adult.

ONE of my friends scratched a game once when someone kicked over his console, thats what happens when you aren't careful with expensive electronics and cheap media...

# ... — FelisCatusLover 2009-06-20 06:24

Damn right but it's not just the 360 that sucks, everything that ***** company has ever made (including Winblows, Zune, and the original Xbox) are pieces of dirt *****. I hope that fat cow Steve Ballman gets a massive heart attack and his boyfriend Bill Gotes gets cancer.

# So basically — Digitus 2009-06-20 09:07

Microsoft decided in order to profit they'll go the way of Nintendo and essentially use "last gens" hardware during the current gen but tack on a new controller. This is actually what everyone said they should have did with the gamecube when they heard the Wii wasn't going to be all that more powerful than the Gamecube. Its a bit ironic and depressing. Of course if nobody else upgrades then they'll still be current gen but I'm sure Nintendo is going to produce a new console since they've actually been making money since the beginning of the cycle.

Its points like this that I'm glad I have all three systems because I know I'm going to eventually get tired of Microsoft trying to shove Natal into my life by making it the standard. Dark days ahead.

# Well, you guys write too much... — RexNox 2009-06-20 10:44

crap...

The best console of all time is obviously the PS2. The Xbox360 and all of its marketing strategies mimic both Xbox and PS2 strategies (with the 360 being the slim xbox). The big difference and the thing that is going to seal the deal in this gen will be Natal (and if MS is smart a nice mix of casual and hardcore games).

The PS3 is an overzealous movie player nothing more. However, I wish XBL was more like PSN.

BTW, it was Gamestop that started that new 2010 (possibly BR) addition to the Xbox rumour.

And, I've owned 3 PS2s and most of my friends had at least one, and none of them had the DRE problem.

# It's not what they're doing, calm down — Master Chef 2009-06-20 11:28

It's been said multiple times now that Ballmer slipped up and got one word wrong, they wouldn't announce a new console at the place Ballmer was at lol.

Ballmer meant to say that when it comes out they'll bundle it with the 360 so people who don't have one can save money buying both. And they;ll offer the Natal camera setup standalone (I think I heard it'd be $100) for people with the console

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