small bumpers might have also quieted the drive

Thats low . They released a faulty RROD system with disc scratching "features". MY GTA IV never had a chance(scratche d to death).

Seriously, this is the same reason why it says "Do not swallow" on bottles of Shampoo. If a car engine is running, is it the best time to replace the fan belt? If a lawn mower is powered on, do you stick your hand in the blades to remove debris? Common sense!!! You don't move or bump a DVD player while it's playing a movie, do you?? Honestly, get these clowns a scaulding cup of coffee without the "Contents hot" warning. Maybe they'll burn their tongues off. Even if the PS3 doesn't have these "issues", you don't decide mid-game that it would look better on top of your TV than underneath and man handle it while the disc is spinning.



-V

Spin much faster than they do in the 360 (16x and 20x DVD writers) and I can move my PC without receiving any damage to the disc and the drive makes very little noise.



Take a 360 with a 12x speed DVD ROM and it sounds like you're on a runway in the path of a plane at Heathrow Airport.

People will call it the greatest system ever. Even tho just about every system has to be replaced or repaired and it has a major issue with scratching your games. Heck its not far off saying this country went into recession having to keep buying a new 360 because its the worst piece of hardware ever made and we say were saving money buying the 360. Yet all the flamers out there will say its the best system ever and complain how much the ps3, but stand in line getting their 3rd 1.

Yes im mad, im so sick of microsoft riping the consumer off and lying to them yet people keep giving them money and taking up for them. I hope all you 360 flamers go broke because microsoft stole all ur money.

Ive been thru 3 of them crappers and ill never buy another gaming console from that company again. What a sad sad time we live in when everyone says they are getting a bargain with that console. Flame on.

I found a fix for the disk scratch problem BUT you must follow these instructions EXACTLY:



1. Unplug your Xbox 360.

2. Place it outside on the ground.

3. Get in your vehicle.

4. Drive to GameStop.

5. Purchase a real game console (PS3).

6. Hook it up.

7. Realize you now have a console with free online gaming, Blu-Ray media, and a non rainbow GUI and cheer.

8. Take the empty PS3 box outside to the ground where you placed your Xbox 360 (your 360 should still be here if you've been following these instructions correctly).

8. Beat the ***** out of it with the PS3 box.

9. Recycle it for the plastics.

10. Prey every night that Microsoft gets out of the gaming industry.

NEver had any problems on my one and only modded 360 that i play burnt discs on. The only scratches i get are from the wear and tear of putting in games in their covers and taking them out.

Is it Toyota's fault if you crash your car while on a cell phone? Is it Sony's fault you drop your Wega widescreen while installing it? Take some responsibility here Danny. You're mom isn't going to be wiping your nose your whole life. You know how fast a disc spins in a DVD drive. Moving it will surely cause damage and for anyone to think otherwise would be idiotic. This was the same problem with the PS2's so don't act so smug Sony boys. I'm a M$ fan, so what? Even if this lawsuit was against Sony, I'd back them up. This is in no way Microsoft's fault. The fact that any of you would want a company to lose business over the stupidity of a consumer is remarkable. Own up to your actions and just buy the game again. End of story.



-V

Does he also get hit by parked cars?



Really, again, if you knock over a PS2 with a game in it and the system is off, what will happen? Goes back to common sense.



-V

it has nothin to do with stupidity because my bro bought a brand new 360 nov. 1st same day right when he put in sonic the hedgehog to play the first time the system wasnt even moved but just literally touched and u could hear the disc out of place scratchin and it really doesnt happen on ps2s and even if it so called happend atleast ps2 can read reasonably scratched discs unlike xbox 360 which ruins it and u cant compare it to gettin hit by a parked car reason for this is that couldnt happen it would mean u walked or ran into it while this is u make the system move at all and your disc is gone i already had to replace a brand new Gears because the game was playin and my bro jus pluged the ethernet to get internet and game got the biggest scratch on i(he didnt move or pic up the system) and then it started and played yea but the hole final chapter didnt work at all it would say the disc needs cleanin or w.e and quit out the game and he had 2 pay 5 dollars 2 replace it

People like crap, thats why, Bill Gates is probably the smartest person in the world. He realized that people do not like quality products and has never yet made one, thats why Microsoft does so well. Microsoft knew that as long as they were first into the 7th generation, they would win. Thats why the 360 was released first. Thats why they won.

You -know- the disc spins really fast while it reads games. Yes, even the PS2. Fact. I worked for EB Games for 3 years and many many PS2's were returned under warrenty because they scratched games. Kids and adults would move the console while a game was spinning and the disc would have circular scratches. You want to blame Sony for that?



Didn't think so.



Keep your 360 flat if you can't handle not molesting your console while playing a game. It's that simple Touch it all day if you want.



For those claming a relative or friend had a game that got scratched "just because"... you're either full of it or are telling the truth and yea, it can happen. Again, it happened to a LOT of PS2 customers as well. I guarentee it will happen to PS3 owners in the near future. As soon as you start mass producing a product, you'll start to see more and more flaws in the machinery.



First PS3's were burning down people's houses. Ah, thought I forgot about those stories, eh? Well, I didn't. That was Sony's fault. But Microsoft Steering Wheels also caught fire and some people's homes burned down... or at least singed the shag carpeting. Microsoft's fault.



Idiots touching the XBOX 360, Wii or PS3 while a game is spinning deserve to get their game scratched, Danny boy. If you don't believe me, just try it on your console. Put a game in and start rubbing up on your system of choice. Don't want to? Nah, don't blame you. But you see my point. Stop being a drippy nosed kid and again, take responsibility for your actions. This is in no way Microsoft's fault and 360 continues to sell more and more than the PS3. Microsoft isn't going anywhere. They have more money than Sony and could trade them like poker chips if they ever wanted to sell. Blu-Ray is a joke and will be dropped in a hole once digital downloads and streaming rentals become the viewing of choice for family entertainment.



Sorry it sucks to be a Sony fan right now and while I don't want to see them go, the competition is great and I want to see where the industry takes us because Nintendo is more taking a step backwards than forwards... I just wish Sony fans could see how silly and ironic things turned out. The 360 is the new PS2. More popular, lots of games, more JRPG's, more support from Square Enix, better EA Sales, better 3rd Party support overall, more exclusives, better price, mass produced so we see more of the flaws. (And believe me, PS2's were the crappiest system ever made, people used to buy 3-4 consoles because they'd break within a year or so. I returned over 1000 systems myself)



The PS3 is the new XBOX. Came out a year later, has better tech, better first party support, more artistic freedom for devs. Comes with a wireless adaptor. That's where it ends though. Free online doesn't mean better. I've seen video of Home and it blows. I'm glad NXE is just a better Mii-Too and an easier navagation system. I don't want to run to the "Games" room just to play games.



Free online play is like saying basic T.V. is better than Cable because it's free. No, it isn't... it's just free. I'd rather pay for a quality service that's $50. I'm not so broke paying for a PS3 that I can afford it.



But I digress. People should have to buy the disc again for bumping into their 360 while it's playing a game. Too bad, so sad, their fault.



-V