Halo 3 co-op troublesome over Live, might head offline |
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We all know that the clamor for Halo 3 four player co-op has been alleviated a bit with the confirmation of two-player cooperative play, but even while reduced in half, Bungie has yet to sort out the "online" bit. In the latest issues of EGM, Bungie's Frank O'Connor took a stand on the issue, saying:
We're not dumb. We know that people want it and we're trying to make it happen. I think the biggest problem for us for online co-op is that we have a situation where you can be in a Warthog with five troops, almost a mile away from the other player. That's a significant challenge. And there's lots of design things you could do to prevent that from happening, but they would make it not feel like Halo anymore. If we can make it happen in a way that works well, we will - and if it works badly, we won't.
The mention of additional work on an Xbox 360 premier title set for release on September 25 may have fans "facepalming" in tandem around the world, but Bungie's claims don't appear to affect the release date of the game. According to them, the co-op mode will follow after the game releases via downloadable content - if everything "online" works out on Bungie's end.
Speculations have risen that Bungie may opt for offline multiplayer over split-screen or LAN as a last resort, although this information has yet to be confirmed by the studio as of press time.
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Just like the original...if one player get's "ahead" of the other player, then teleport the slow one to the other players vicinity...seemed to work well enough....it's hard to explain in the context of the game, but whatever, if it needs to be done to have some co-op action over live, so be it....
Warthog With 5 PEOPLE OMFG LOL har har well ill get HAZE online.. and 4 Player put halo will pwn teh n00bs LOL You Thing Red Rings are Bad... PS3's Latest Problem is Drives Defecting i should know i *****.. ing had to send mine to sony NSW (Sydney) for repairs
maybe for cooperative play they designed it for people to be at different places at different times..who know
Im not buying this any way im getting a ps3 tommorow!
lol you wanna buy mine? ill even blow off the dust for free!
Uh oh! When the ps3 fanboys hear you saying that their beloved console has defects too your stars are gonna disappear! Thats the only thing they can do about it, lol.
I saw this on HBO awhile ago, and the admin there put it pretty rationally: http://nikon.bungie.org/news.html?item=19278 Apparently, this interview with EGM was done over a month ago, around June 19, so as far as we know the co-op issues may have already been dealt with. I'm 99% certain two-player online co-op is in, but I don't know about four-player. If this negative speculation about no co-op pick up enough steam Bungie will make a statement. If not I guess we'll just have to wait for Sep 25. I'd buy the game anyway, but online co-op is always nice.
do it today before I get one Saturday though. Dont bi**h out homo but it on ebay and post the link here. I seriously will buy it if its a reasonable price tho.
Yeh I think that AoxomamoxoA should upload some pictures on to the web with his PS3 and his name on a piece of paper beside it to now prove it has one.
that was with 2 players imagine with four u would just be constantly teleportin like crazy
Well, since we're already close to September 25, Bungie has probably already finished the game. Now its just getting Halo 3 ready to ship all over the US. So they have the game completed, lying around their office sumwhere...
The system just couldn't handle it. It's a sad story, but it's true. The End.
since this is NEXT GEN... we should be able to go anywhere without the teleport function.... we should be able to take two very different paths without a hiccup the 360 can surely handle that....
I own a PS3 and surely the 460 can handle it. im a sony fanboy but the 360 is actually more powerful than the 360 i believe.
it definetly can handle it..if gears cant why halo cant..the reason is because then it would not be cooperative play..it would just be 2 crazy dudes blowing stuff up without ever seing each other
the 360 is more powerful than the 360 thats crazy i thought they had the same power seeing that there the same console but the 360 is more powerfull than the 360 i had no clue
maybe it's just your ps3. I have a launch PS3 and there's abosolutely nothing wrong with it. (except my psp doesnt work with remote play. (but that's not due to my ps3. i recently figured out that i *****ed up something when i downgraded it :( now it's stuck at 3.11 official))
it would be kind of too easy to play 4 player co-op if everyone was master chief. what if they made 2 people a master chief and then two people are normal marines. and whenever the player controlled marines die, they just start controlling another marine (without having to wait for someone to be "out of combat"). or.... since there are different kinds of armor, maybe everyone has to use a different kind of armor so they'll have a significant role in the game. like if everyone has to use different armor, then maybe only one particular armor set can accomplish a certain objective.
why wouldn't it be able to? the graphics aren't THAT great. especially compared to Gears of War (which, for some reason, is the standard for comparing graphics to). it's not like a single console has to render for 4 people's displays. come on. 4 360's, 4 tvs, 4 players. it's not impossible. the 360's processor isn't that bad. i doubt it will be possible for there to be more than two people per console though. that's how it was on the beta. only two people per screen.
To: Sony Lover you said - " im a sony fanboy but the 360 is actually more powerful than the 360 i believe." even though you said the 360 is actually more powerful than the 360, i know you meant the 360 is more powerful than the ps3. they are both equal in different respects. Xbox 360 is more powerful when it comes to things like AI. PS3 is more powerful when it comes to things like number of objects on screen, where raw power comes into play.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/HardToExist/proofps3axomamoxoa.jpg http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/HardToExist/proof360axomamoxoa.jpg ...theres your proof. And yes, 360 is better than the ps3. Yes, 360 games look better than the ps3 games. Yes, Xbox Live is WAAAY better than Playstation Network Yes, PS3 freezes and takes a lot longer time to load things. Yes, the PS3 controller does lose signal during gameplay. Yes, the 360 has 100x more content on its Online than the PS3s measly 10-12 demos. And yes, I regret getting a ps3, but at least I can rightly say that the 360 is better in every aspect without being just some blind fanboy who hasnt even played the rival console. Happy now?
wrong
to AoxomamoxoA maybe your ps3/sixaxis sucks balls (like you) because in my experience with my ps3, none of what you are saying is true my controller has never lost a signal. (my controller works from downstairs, my brother's xbox360 controller doesn't) my PS3 has never frozen on me, but the same can't be said about my brother's xbox360 and the load times are bad at all. and according to your statement XBLM must have 1000-1200 demos right? there aren't even that many games for your console. i think you should stop exaggerating and speak the truth.
care to elaborate on why im wrong?
Or maybe if you knew anything at all you'd know that they clearly said it is possible and they've done it they just didn't like the results they got because it didn't make the game feel right. What they're trying to do is find a fix so it feels more like Halo. Is FFXIII out yet? What about MGS? Have fun waiting.
He's not wrong, he's absolutely right. I own 360 and loathe the PS3 but you must be blind or just plain stupid if you can't see that it has more processing power than 360. Just accept that each console has separate advantages, it doesn't make on better than the other.
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wouldnt it be easier theoretically online instead of offline. because if your in 2 different places, each console renders its player, but if its split screen, then the console will be rendering 2 players a mile apart in 2 scenarios.
Bungie mentions this whole thing in the newest Weekly Update http://www.bungie.net/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=12669 They don't confirm or deny online co-op, but here is the section from the update concerning this issue, for people who don't wanna copy-paste the link "All we confirmed to EGM for their sweet, mind-twitterpating Campaign reveal (and other massive feature reveal) regarding Cooperative Play in Halo 3’s Campaign is that System Link co-op will be included in Halo 3. Just like we told EGM, we’re aware that people want co-op online but the challenge of getting our complicated A.I. systems, huge game world, and gargantuan encounters neatly packaged and transferring across the Interwebz is a mythic undertaking. Nonetheless, like other elements of Halo 3, online co-op is a feature we’re wrestling with somewhere in a muddy and muggy Florida swamp against a ton-toothed Alligator, but, what we haven’t really talked about is how big the knife we brought to the wrasslin’ match is." All that said, EGM doesn’t really know whether or not Halo 3 will ship with online co-op, only Bungie knows. The only thing they did know is that co-op was available for split-screen and System Link. As we approach the tail end of development, we will have a clearer picture of whether or not that online feature will be included. Assuming either way would be foolish at this time. We will say more when we feel it’s prudent. Because that’s how we roll." So like the admin on halo.bungie.org said, saying "online co-op is not in" is just wrong, because Bungie never said that to EGM. They only confirmed that system link co-op IS in. For one thing, I'm very certain if they can get two-player system-link to work, they can get two-player online to work. Another thing, even if they can't, Xbox Connect and Xlink Kai work with the 360. Since system link co-op is in, you can use one of those programs to essentially play co-op online (for people who don't know what XBC and XLK do, they trick the system into thinking you're playing a sys-link game, but you're really playing an online game, maybe with someone on the other side of the planet)
Im sorry i didn't realize you had experiences with the ps3 to a point to know its fails, i have one and it doesnt do any of the crap your sprouting out, maybe you mistreat your console. Also let me add with all of the news about the failing of the xbox i don't see how having those games makes it better than ps3 when majority of the time you can't play the games due to problems. Also MS is getting sued for 5 mill do to disc scratching, its apparent that MS hasn't made a working console, hell they haven't made a dime in the gaming industry since xbox 1. And from what i heard they lost 6 billion from xbox 1 and 360, trust me im not kidding i send you a link. later.
is Halo out yet or GTA4, yea have fun waiting and playing oh wait you won't since xbox is defective.
what are you talking about, first off whats 460 is that a new xbox system? And what the hell does this mean [quote]but the 360 is actually more powerful than the 360 i believe.[/quote] Wow really the 360 is more powerful than the 360 wow i thought people knew what they were talking about. How about you fix your statement since its completely trashed up and incomprehensible.
your right it is more powerful than ps3, thats why its defective, its so powerful it can't handle the crappy Xbox design.
Yeah, it figures you guys would deny any kind of problems with the ps3. Too bad I know the truth, and that youre both just deeply in denial huh? I also bet neither of you have a 360, and only get your ideas about it from other retarded sony fanboys because in actuality, someone like me who has owned a 360 since day one without ONE problem doesnt really care if you think the 360 breaks easily. I also dont care how much money MS makes. Is that your arguement? MS is losing money!? lol, you guys are such sony tools.
Denial, wow interesting. I haven't heard a problem with sony ps3 other than xbox fanboys. And that stupid kid who put duct tape on his Air vents. Other than that i never once with any of my sony systems had a problem. Sure the ps2 had some problems which i believe it was 12% but nothing like what MS xbox is facing. Also AoxomamoxoA your like 0.001% of the population so you not having a problem is canon to the xbox failures And i try to bring facts and just like i said b4 i have some for you right now, here is one from this site: http://www.informationweek.com/hardware/showArticle.jhtml?articleID+201200157+cid+RSSfeed_TechWeb The head line is Microsoft Xbox 360 Sales Plunge 60% As Problems Mount. Now if some don't want to copy and paste it, i will quote it for you. ["growing troubles with the Xbox 360 video game console appear to be catching up to the company. Sales of the gaming machine plunged 60% in the fiscal fourth quarter, Microsoft disclosed Thursday. In its earnings statement for the quarter, Microsoft said it shipped 700,000 Xbox 360 units during the period, compared to 1.8 million in the fiscal fourth quarter of 2006 -- a fall off of 61%. Microsoft's Xbox operations are housed within the company's Entertainment and Devices Division. The group saw fourth quarter revenue drop 10% year-over-year to $1.16 billion on an operating loss of $1.20 billion. The group lost $423 million the previous year."] Also from this site: http://www.gamepro.com/microsoft/xbox360/games/features/124008.shtml It reads: Feature: Six Reasons The Xbox 360 Is in Trouble ["Microsoft has lost unthinkable amounts of money on its Xbox business. In the six short years it's been in the industry, the company hasn't made a dime. When adding the recently announced $1.9 billion losses incurred in fiscal 2007, total life-to-date Xbox losses are conservatively estimated at somewhere around $6 billion dollars."] Also on that site gives 6 reasons why the Xbox 360 is in deep trouble. Im not going to list them all check it out for your selves, i just made this comment in response to AoxomamoxoA claiming im lying. And this isn't a bashing, Im just disappointed that me who has played xbox 360 games 2 times a week, since i go to my friends house 2 times to play xbox games, i was thinking of getting this system, but now after reading stuff like this for a month an a half it has told me not to buy one. And with this i leave, from stealth.
i ment Isn't canon not is canon. Thats all
same w/ me, i have a launch ps3 and it works fine...
After reading your comments, i now think that the Ps3 is more powerful than the PS3 cauz the 360 seems to explode or summit
i think they are both good in different ways. live is better than ps3 nw however when they get xmb in game it will be a different story. my xbox 360 controler feels more solid than the ps3 one and my ps3 controler broke but sony sent me a new one. my ps3 has never crashed but allways when playing r6v online with my xbox 360 it crashes. its swings and roundabouts they are both great i think for the long run il like ps3 better because it has more potential i dont know if my xbox 360 will last out the year im not the luckiest person with probability and 33% is not good odds
GTA4 hey wasnt that supposed to be for the PS3 only?
Did you even read what I wrote? I said the PS3 is more powerful, not the 360 you retard.
Yes I can see how one or two defective drives matches the Ring Of death and Disk scratching issues of the 360...
I've never laughed so much at any comments posted on this site, are you 8yrs old or something? Seriously though you really need to get out more. I think you should put your money where your mouth is, my mate wants a PS3. How much eh?
TihS si inprecomhensible potsing aT tis beSt! I've heard that those 460's have Drive problems as well!
Are you having a laugh?
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