Xbox 360 will win the war - analyst

Posted Mar 28, 2007 at 5:07AM by QJ Staff Listed in: PS3, Wii, Xbox 360 Tags: Microsoft, Nintendo, Playstation Home, Sony
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Xbox 360 - Image 1 Don't look now, but we've got another analyst predicting that the Microsoft Xbox 360 will win the console war in a close race against the Nintendo Wii, with the Sony PlayStation 3 lagging behind by a significant percentage.

Bill Kreher is a full-time analyst for A.G. Edwards who has had his eye on the early goings of the console war. He gives the edge to the Xbox 360 console because of two basic reasons: It was launched a year ahead of its rivals and it has Xbox Live. Kreher noted that the amount of time it took for the Wii and PS3 to be released has shored up a sturdy game library for the game machine. Also, the six million-strong Xbox Live draws gamers to multiplayer bliss.

He said that though PlayStation Home sounds sweet, it will be hard to compete with a rival network that has already established itself. He also noted that the worst thing that could happen is for the PS3 interest to fade even before Sony starts to heat up. In the end, he said that Xbox 360 will have 38 percent of the American market and Sony will get 28 percent.

The remaining 34 percent, he says, will belong to the innovative Nintendo Wii. The wide appeal of the console will shatter the notion that the system is a fad. Kreher says that the niche is viable for Nintendo and it will continue to be in the years to come.

And about the Blu ray advantage of the PS3? Kreher says, "thereÂ’s no assurance that Blu-ray is going to be used in games in any significant way."


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# smart analyst for once?Mister Common Sense 2007-03-28 02:02
There isn't going to be a winner in this so called console war, just one that sells the most and makes the most money. I agree, Microsoft will be on top.

The PS3 might do OK, but will still be last in sales and profit (not counting blu ray.)

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# !!!Guest 2007-03-28 02:04
Bill Kreher... "Xbox 360 will win the war and I will get my wish, by getting boned in the rear by Bill Gates and friends.

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# Silly AnalystGuest 2007-03-28 02:04
I wouldn't trust any analyst who doesn't understand enough about market segments to understand that Wii isn't even in direct competition with the other two consoles.



I'm also tired of hearing about how blueray sales aren't positive for Sony when they have a vast library of movie IP going to the format to make them money, in addition to video game sales.

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# TimeGuest 2007-03-28 02:08
Only time will be the answer. Besides, remember that both Sony and Microsoft are involved in other businesses. Unfortunately for Nintendo, even though the Wiis are selling great, they don't have other products like tv's, laptops, etc. to back their console up.

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# This Guy has no clueGuest 2007-03-28 02:44
Begin Rant



Bluray is great how could it not be used in any significant way over the next 5 years?



This guy does not know video games!



1st gen ps2 games could fit in 200MBs on a CD-R, while later GT5 took 8GB thats roughly 40x the data consumption.. you may say this only applies to sony consoles but you would be wrong game sizes always increase.



nes, snes, sms and smd games where 20x larger in the final generation and that was when everything was compressed to fit on a cartridge.



Do you honestly think you can compress the data down to a 1:5 ratio without ruining the textures or sound quality?



Swaping disks maybe ok in a rpg but what about action games and racing sims imagine changing discs for access to courses and cars?



i agree that the Xbox2 has a good chance of winning in Northern America, however PS3 will rule in all other territories and Xbox2 doesnt have a chance in asia. and as much as american-analysists like to ignore the rest of the world, americans are much less then 50% of the global population, and a console could win the console war without winning america.



End Rant.

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# 360Guest 2007-03-28 03:18
360 is rubbish , add on after add on, give me a break, i want the all in one package

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# Guy is a toolGuest 2007-03-28 03:48
Guess he just follows internet news sites and doesn't work too hard. Every other analyst that Pick PS3 to win actually has reasons to back it up. Not this "first out and live kicks ass" crap.



MS may be in the lead at this point and through this and most of next year but even with a 3 million selling game they aren't expanding the base. Just increasing the attach rate. That doesn't look like reaching critical mass to me.



The blu-Ray remark is just ignorant so no need to comment. Besides 360 games can span multiple disks like Blue Dragon and compress like hell. Lowering quality but hey it's possible

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# CluelessGuest 2007-03-28 04:20
The "'ANALyist" does not know that at least 4 million of the 6 million BillGates accounts are for the BillGates offed

XBOX1.



Love that line.....add on, after add on....and now a mere $20 less than the PS3. What a joke.

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# he doesn't have a clueGuest 2007-03-28 04:24
I'm sick of these analysts saying bad things about my PS3. I know it's awesome and great for viewing my gay porn collection, even though sony and christians are

against that.

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# you're a jokeGuest 2007-03-28 04:30
Oops your shoes are untied mcfly.

What are you trying to prove?

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# so lameGuest 2007-03-28 04:34
these predictions are so lame...



everyone knows Apple is going to win the console war.

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# He is Right, But ohh soo wrongGuest 2007-03-28 04:45
He is right in saying that the American market will belong to Microsoft. But SONY will win the war. Japan is in the pocket and Europe will be as well. So a better title of this Article would be "XBOX 360 will win in the U.S."



TheSh0wstopper

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# scarfaceGuest 2007-03-28 05:38
"Eh' Monolo'



Kill Dat Piece A Shyt"

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# lol you can tell this was BEFORE the Elite was announcedhighps3 2007-03-28 06:50
As of now Sony has the console.. 360 was rushed and its obvious...



The new one still doesnt match up to the Ps3 which is pathetic.



Oh fyi PS3 owners can upgrade to a 120gb for 80.99 at newegg... Enjoy .

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# We all know that the tides are changingGuest 2007-03-28 07:09
and they are changing in sonys favor! People are all starting to appreciate the PS3 now. How the media says there was a bad launch with 600K units sold in europe in 3 days? Whatever.

Anyways, google the "analyst" This piece of ***** has only had one other quote, and it was about gamestop. And the only place I find him listed is on the EA analyst coverage team.

***** I google myself and I have hundreds more hits than that!

So we have some nobody, that people are glad to listen to for their news.

Good job QJ!!! WOOT. WTF have I been saying about journalism. Always check the SOURCE. You can't post ***** that mr common sense says as a fact, so why post ***** that this guy says?!?!?!? He is NOT a credible source.

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# .Guest 2007-03-28 08:02
weeee another wannabe analyst making a name for himself



"And about the Blu ray advantage of the PS3? Kreher says, 'there’s no assurance that Blu-ray is going to be used in games in any significant way.'"



i can only say to the above statement: LAWL

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# Ruining it for everyoneGuest 2007-03-28 08:48
So are you reall crow or constancy (or both?)

Why aren't you pretending to be him any more?

You must still be pretty ticked the way Mr. Common Sense proves you wrong with facts rather than a lot of rants and cursing. You are a disgrace to PS3 fans and even they are sick of you.

Either way, your rants are falling on deaf ears.

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# US FiguresAmish.Gramish 2007-03-28 10:43
He said that this was the U.S. figures.

The PS3 will probably lose in the U.S. and Japan, but it will win in Europe.

The Wii will probably win in Japan, but if it doesn't, the PS3 will win, and it will lose in the U.S. and Europe.

The 360 will probably win in the U.S., but lose in everything else.

In each, the PS3 will take a close second, but it will probably win the overall war.

The Wii will take third place in the U.S. and Europe.

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# He forgot...Guest 2007-03-28 10:46
X360 will never conquer ASIA/JAPAN market.

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# HA! YA OKAY BUDDYGuest 2007-03-28 10:55
Roncoloid, you have no idea what you're talking about. PS3's graphics are way better than the crapbox 360's, PS3 has way more potential, and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about with blu-ray. Don't ever make an opinion based post again until you know what you're talking about. PS3 is by far the best system, the only reason it's not selling as good as the other consoles is based on price. Notice how the sales are going by Price?



Wii: People buy it because they are cheap and don't do any research about the other consoles before they buy. The console is very kiddy, has horrible graphics and gameplay doesnt even compare the PS3's or the 360.



Xbox 360: People buy it because they want good games, and good graphics but wanna spend as little as possible. People who buy this console do their research.



PS3: People buy it because they realize that they are getting way more bang for their buck, and don't care how much it costs. The buyers of the PS3 want steller graphics, with outstanding gameplay. People who buy this console know what they are doing.

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# 3 yearsGuest 2007-03-28 11:02
Just a little question. A new console every 3 years? Why is that a good thing? These are consoles, In my view they are suppose to last for a long time. If I wanted the " coolest best thing" every 3 years I'd just upgrade my PC.

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# global console salesGuest 2007-03-28 11:49
actually america accounts for over 50% of console sales between xbox playstation and wii. soo yeah analysts like to look at America because america is the number one buyer of console systems

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# lolcomedy 2007-03-28 12:10
i like that retort...

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# xbox 360 doesnt need asia/japan marketGuest 2007-03-28 12:10
here are the sales figures so far from vgcharts.com which get their figures straight from retailers.



xbox 360 9.77million sales .38m Japan

5.95m US

3.44m Others

Wii 6.25million sales 2m japan

2.49m US

1.76 others

PS3 2.45million sales .84m japan

1.35m US

.61m others



So out of the 18.47 xbox 360 has sold 9.77million of them, which is about 53% of total consols sold, while ps3 has sold a measly 15%



so yes Xbox 360 is "winning"

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# war...comedy 2007-03-28 12:25
i wonder if sony, ms and nintendo see it as a war?



anyway, as someone up there has said games get bigger and bigger, there's no denying it... developers will be happy to get their hands on the storage space of bluray, why wouldn't they? bluray: it's just like dvd but has more space... duh...



x360 has a massive foot in the door, with somehting like 10 million consoles sold it's definitely no failure, but now that it's primary competition is out in all territories then the real race is on... ok fine ps3 interest is at a high due to it's lauch (was that figure about 600k sold in europe the truth?!) and that will slow a bit, but all sony need to do to hit home with the ps3 is release some good games: a wipeout title would kick ass, gta4 (despite being multiplatform) will do a lot for ps3, others... not sure which... but some great games will make it a must-have.



yeah asia is proving a tough nut to crack for ms, i think the problem is that those guys over there don't like ms, it's quite simple really... and ms aren't doing anything to win them over, so they're not buying x360.





analysts all say different things, don't believe any of them, not the ones who say x360 will win, not the ones who say ps3 will win, what do they really know? how many of them are actually reading sites like this and really care about videogames?

do you think this analyst knows about dmc4 ? do you think he knows about littlebigplanet ? or even about the cell? he doesn't, he's an idiot.

you and i know more than him, so let's make our own decisions.



i leave it up to you guys to argue some more.

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# and your all complainingGuest 2007-03-28 16:01
Blu-ray is not being utilized as an actual medium, and there is proof to that. The same games look just as good on dvd-9 format as they do on blu-ray. Loading times have actually been proven LONGER on the PS3.

The cell is great as a floding processor but noone can write good code for games to actually utilize it. Fanboys here are only complaining because they realize the mistake they made in buying that overpriced piece of *****e

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# retardGuest 2007-03-28 19:03
yea mate deal with it you retard

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# i agreeGuest 2007-03-28 19:07
having played games like resistance, and motorstorm, take far longer than loading times on things like



gears of war, project gotham, rainbox siz vegas





and also scda on 360, loads quicker than ps3.



however i deal with it, do i care how long it takes.

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# is a jokeGuest 2007-03-28 21:36
A very expensive joke. You cannot say that he graphices are better. we have seen no proof of this yet. 360 always look sharper and clearer.

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# LOL Nintendo has a little thing like the DSGuest 2007-03-28 23:10
No they just have things like the Nintendo DS,Movie tie ins,toys etc etc which is outselling everything else a million times over.

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# You scared ?Guest 2007-03-28 23:13
Christians ? why did you miss out the other religions who are also against it to?.

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# PS3 is already on a downward spiralGuest 2007-03-28 23:25
Blu Ray hardware is the least selling of the HD players, noone buys HD players when they can have a $150 HDMI DVD9 player that also records can convert home movies to dvd etc etc. HD players have flopped and the only surving Blu Ray player that sells is the one in the PS3.



When in stores the average person finds it hard to see the difference between an HDMI dvd9 player and a HD player so they never part with their cash for One, when they can have all the benefits above for a 10th of the price.



Europe the 360 will win, here we all owned a PS2 but now its all 360s and its not going to change.



The 360 is selling more in the USA than the PS3 is selling in the USA and Japan combined.



The 360 sells more then the whole amount of PS3s sold in Europe and Australia every Two weeks in the USA alone.



360 has won

The Wii will be a close second

The PS3 will remain static especially once the release hype is over by next week in Europe.

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# you forgotMister Common Sense 2007-03-29 00:32
PS3 will never conquer any region, including Japan. PS3 can get a 2nd place runner up prize to the Wii there, however. 2nd place in one country is the best the PS3 could hope for.

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# Think about 2 or 3 years by nowGuest 2007-03-29 03:09
I have to give it to microsoft they're whipping Sony's ass right now. But after Halo 3 comes out there's really nothing to look forward to. That when the price of the PS3 drops and Sony finally gets those AAA titles fans are eagerly waiting for!!

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# Everyone for 360 is right!!!!!!!!!! !!!Guest 2007-03-29 04:12
360 is on a huge role of whoop a$$!!!!!!!!!!!S ony i do give credit im not gonna dis on it, but MS is doing what they call business!!!!!!! !!!I have both systems and like one guy said i go to www.newegg.com !!!!So its all cool about the 120gb!!!

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# You think about 2 or 3 years by nowGuest 2007-03-29 04:23
Add of course the 360 will have all those AAA titles, Mass Effect,Blue Dragon, Forza 2, DMC4 etc those fans are eagerly waiting for!!

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# WOW....Guest 2007-03-29 09:18
Ok there has only been 3 smart posts here

... The first post that had a good point was about Game size

... The sencond was just sales figures

... The Third was from "comdey" starting with "i wonder if sony, ms and nintendo see it as a war?"



Game size blueray will help ... But you can allways use more then one DVD(kinda anoyin tho)



The sale figures... Yes XBOX is winning BUT don't forget it has been out alot longer then other other 2 systems.



Devs. havn't beenable to use the full power of the Cell yet, as where the xbox is using almost all of its power.



For the graphics... The PS3 and Xbox are going to be almost the same. The PS3 has HD for games which will help them for that.



Now as "COMEDY" said you half to decided for yourself, And it alldepends on what you want your system for, if you just want to play games and you don't care much for linux or curing cancer(Folding@ home) or watching HD without updating your system or having a FREE online network then yea the Xbox is for you! ... but if you know anything you know that sony will end up the "winner" ...



FLAME ON!

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# eswake I totally agree with you...but...Constantinecy 2007-03-31 04:05
I also belive that sony will probaly win this ''war'' but MS will be very very close due to(and basicaly only) its early release... MS has just started showing sings of weaknees just by releasing the new Elite 360.Why? The answer is simple...if the current 360 really had,has and will have what it takes to be better than the ps3 then the elite would not even been disscused by MS, the problem here is that the elite still doesnt much up to the ps3 in any sgnificant way...how unfortunate for nearly 500 dollars!!. We all heard something about the all new 720..something xbox. But who believes in rumors...no DMC4 going multip was, but now its not just like RE 4,5.. and others. So my point here is that in 2,3 or 4 years when the dust sets and the winner (PS3) is declared the new xbox will emerge in order to fill in the blanks of the outdated 360 and all those people (by then 50mill or more) will live yet another XBOX death all over again due to the lack of support in previous gen gaming.



Maybe MS is winning for now but starting early will cost you to be left behind technologically wise.



Ohh and Mr common Microsoft sense I am not posting using a fake alias...no need to, just like what I said to Lurker you do your think and i ll do mine, but I do like it when you prove that you are....thinking about me!



XBOX fans dont hate me Iam just stating facts here. Feel free to suggest otherwise...

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# My two... Pence.Guest 2007-03-31 04:42
Living in the UK (Sco), I can already tell the PS3 isn't doing pretty well.



PS3's are just sitting on the Shelf here, collecting Dust. I've yet to find one shop where they've actually sold out.



I owned a ps2, and considered a PS3, but like many others, Sony's bullcrap of a Launch put me off, and so instead of opening a PS3 at Christmas, I whipped open a 360 with Gears Of War and COD3.



Sure. Flame me, but there are many others out there who done the exact same thing. Sony have abused Europe on this Launch, relying on the success of the ps2 to own throughout the Holiday season, keeping Avid fans with their empty Christmas stockings drooling over the PS3's March release.



There's not a chance in hell Sony will own Europe for a long time, not until all its downfalls are ironed out. Which is exactly what MS are doing, ironing out the mishaps. I own the premium, I'm not going to bother with the Elite just for HDMI. I'll upgrade to the 120gb, sorted.



And to the guy who said the 360 is using all its power.



Erm.



How the hell could you know that? If the history of gaming is anything to go by, when have you ever seen a console's 'Peak' arrive at just one year, maybe one and a half years, in?



Sorry man, but you're way wrong there, I look forward to Capcom's upcoming titles, Mistwalker's upcoming RPGs (which may appeal to Japan, not necessarily to the extent of domination of the market, however)



I'm no fanboy, I still love my PS2. But please... -_-' sony fanbosy and ms fanboys... ack. Take a step back once in a while.

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# PFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFTGuest 2007-04-07 12:08
"there’s no assurance that Blu-ray is going to be used in games in any significant way."





Oh no, PFT, I wouldn't want 50GB of disc space for a game. This dude's a hack.

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