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Wii's Little Problems

Posted Sep 16, 2006 at 5:36PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Wii Tags: GameCube, N64, Wiimote
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Do not repeat Gamecube's MistakesLet's face it, Wii was the big winner that came out of E3. The console has made even the skeptics a little curious about what you could do with the Wiimote. Loyalists are already declaring that the Wii is Nintendo's second coming.

Despite all that, the Wii does have a few things that could go against it. Billy Beghammer of GameInformer has identified several of the Wii's potential problems.

First off, the system is pretty much weaker than its bigger and beefier opponents. Technically, it's a beefed up GameCube. It only supports 480p resolution and widescreen games. The Xbox 360 and the PS3 are all going High Def. Regardless of how much Nintendo says that they're hellbent on gameplay, people still do care about graphics. As much as we're hoping that we could get a high-def experience on the Wii, it probably won't happen. Thank god the console comes out cheap. If there's an HDD upgrade for it, we'd have money to spend for it.

Second, while they're proud of a huge launch line-up, but if you take time to observe, Nintendo only has two first party games available at launch. No Mario. Just The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess and Excite Truck. This is another launch where Mario is absent. Scary thought, isn't it?

Perhaps they're delaying Metroid Prime 3, Super Mario Galaxy, and Super Smash Bros so that they'll have enough ammo left to go head-to-head with the PS3 when it launches. If history repeats itself, they'll probably spread out those games to fill out the 2007 year. If you recall, that didn't work out too well for the GameCube and the N64. Face it, Mario is required to lure in the casual gamers when the console launches. Yes, the Wiimote plus Wii Sports might do the trick, but just imagine Wiimote plus Mario. Gives you the fuzzies, doesn't it?

Wii need MarioThird problem is that while Developers have been saying that Wii is a system easy to make games in, getting your game to fully take advantage of the different control system is a challenge. Some third party games for the DS suck because they didn't make full use of the stylus. Developers have to allot whole teams just to make sure that their game has the Wiimote in mind. This could be costly and could delay releases of third party games for the system. No games for the system equals bad news. The Gamecube failed because it just had no games available for it.

Lastly, Nintendo just has to get online gaming right. Mario Kart, Metroid Prime, and Zelda are franchises that just beg for online play. If they mess this up, they might piss off a lot of Nintendo zealots. They don't have a good enough track record that could assure us they can follow in Xbox Live's footsteps.

Nintendo's got a lot to watch out for. They've already messed up (according to critics) with the N64 and the Gamecube. With the Wii having so much potential, they better not disappoint.



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# huh?Guest 2006-09-16 19:04
First off this guy sux all he does is state facts wii already know second the n64 was way better than the ps1 and saturn 3rd the i had more fun and games on my gcn than my xbox and ps2 combinded. 4th if nintendo markets this right (not just a game system but a family computer ( hey famicom)

then they will do Damn well)

5th First post!!

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# fsafaGuest 2006-09-16 19:21
lol hard to code for using the wiimote? what about the ps3 coding, lots of game companies are pulling there games off ps3 cos it takes so long and is too hard.



and as for HD, i donthave a HD tv, i rather spend the money for buying a hd tv and a ps3 or 360 on upgrades for the comp

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# banana.net 2006-09-16 19:27
This guy is pretty stupid.

I hate it when people think they are smart and write some stupid article like this.

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# how biasGuest 2006-09-16 19:33
"Technically, it's a beefed up GameCube." how the ***** does he know? most wii games are gameplay only and devs havnt worried about graphics and the specs arnt released....

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# to #3Guest 2006-09-16 19:37
i really agree with you and this happens way too often

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# AAAWWWW HHEEELLL NNOOOOGuest 2006-09-16 19:37
Do not tell me qj.net blog put this up, This guy is RETARDED.

WTF IS WRONG WITH YOU, Gamecube graphic is hell enough for me, hell, NES is good enough, i do not care if it's a upgrade gamecube, me and my friends have alot of memories of how fun it is, jeez me and my friends once play mario kart 3 days non stop! who care if it's first or third party games, there is enough games at launch JEEZ, and yes there is game that are GREAT without the main use, MEGAMAN ZX YOU KNOW THAT???, dumbass, and obviously if there was an issue about developper not making enough use Nintendo would of noticed it!



P.S. Take this Article figgen off, it's just pissing people off

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# This dude sucksGuest 2006-09-16 20:02
#1) Why did you write



"First off, the system is pretty much weaker than its bigger and beefier opponents"



If you said previously

"Let's face it, Wii was the big winner that came out of E3"



Then it wouldn't really matter if it was "weaker"



#2) "Nintendo only has two first party games available at launch"



Wow thats too bad. I guess the millions of poeple hoping to play mario can't now because its not gonna come out in launch.....retard.



#3) You go on saying that the Devs say its easy to program on the Wii, and then say that it'll be hard taking full advantage of the Wii. If the Devs say its easy, its easy. Why would you question that.



#4) "Lastly, Nintendo just has to get online gaming right"



Ok.....how the F***** is that a problem. You can't say anything until you actually TRIED the online on the Wii to judge something like that. Your questioning death, in other words your questioning something that hasn't happened to you, and you classified it as a problem (death could be a problem though dont get me wrong there).



Why is there an article like this? It pisses people off, not inform them.

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# puffyGuest 2006-09-16 20:08
u guys are blinded as nintendo fanboys.... people do care about graphics in the end... that is the majority... eye candy.... when ps2 first came out people were sucked in by the graphics from Metal Gear Solid 2 and the likes.... don't get me wrong i'm pulling for nintendo wii... but if they come out with killer games like MGS4, Gears of War, and not to mention Final Fantsy XIII... (and not Final Fantasty Crystal Chronicles)... nintendo would secure this win...

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# Blame it on MiyamotoGuest 2006-09-16 20:08
If you're missing the Mario games for launch, blame Miyamoto. "A delayed game is eventually good, but a bad game is bad forever."



Shiggy isn't gonna let his games go into production until he's 200% satisfied with their quality. I can understand that completely, and he can take as long as he wants, because as soon as he lets the game out, I'm gonna be losing sleep from playing it too much anyway. ^_^



Miyamoto's love and care for his games is nothing to scorn, Nintendo's been in this a long time, and I fully trust their judgements.

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# I want Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicle WiiGuest 2006-09-16 20:12
nuff said.

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# ....Guest 2006-09-16 20:20
dumb.... i dont need mario at launch... specially a bad mario game.... i mean...zelda its.. 36754 times better than mario... a lauch console with zelda on it, only in my wildest dreams...







btw... about graphics.... its 250! c'mon people...

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# Guest 2006-09-16 20:21
THis guy sucks how can you call it a beefed up gamecube the specs arnt even released yet

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# HDOminatorx 2006-09-16 20:23
Most of the games for nintendo systems are like cartoons. You can't get much hd out of a cartoon, it looks pretty much the same as a sd.

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# Well, if the online capabilitiesGuest 2006-09-16 20:38
don't even exist for first half a year, and those games coming out in that time frame can't even support online multiplayer, they DO have a problem.

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# kiddy gamesGuest 2006-09-16 21:00
Nintendo's go to stop pumping out games for little kids, i mean we all grow up, we can't all play pokemon; we'll just get beat up lol; anyways they need to cater to the older audience, we need more serious games, and zelda is in the right step, i just hope they don't make the mistake with the games they churned out on the n64 and gamecube with 12 and under oriented games

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# Guest 2006-09-16 21:16
Why do you idiots keep getting mad that he said it's pretty much a beefed up gamecube? It is, its a fact. I can not wait for the wii, gettin red steel and zelda for sure, maybe marvel ultimate alliance too, but the technical aspect isn't impressive and that does put alot of people off. Also, they said that there will be no online mp for a while, and that can be a problem, as can the service itself, like if we have to use wii friend codes im gonna be pissed off. Viva la revolution! errrr wii!

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# #9 I agree with yaGuest 2006-09-16 21:45
We all know that Miyamoto is a god among game designers/directors. I don't think there's a gamer on the planet that could argue against that. If the delay is because of a few tweaks and tightening up of it, then I say bring it on. I'm gonna have Zelda and Red Steel to keep me busy anyway.



That said, I can also see they delaying it to not put everyone in one basket at once. The Wii is cheaper to cater to people with less money, and if they have less money, they aren't going to go and buy a Wii and 10 games. Maybe 1 or 2 at most. So release a few more later on.. Hopefully though, it's in a small window, so tha tmomentum isn't lost.

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# ***** THISGuest 2006-09-16 22:11
***** this post!

It's all ANTI-Nintendo !

Third party games DO make games with the stylus, not the best games though, but they do make good games.



Nintendo doesn't bother to not have some sort of Xbox Live, so what?

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# FamiliarGuest 2006-09-16 22:25
I think I've seen this article before...Oh wait, like once a week some stupid jacka.ss comes out of the woodwork to bash/support either the ps3/wii. Funny how they no so much since they do not code games for either system, nor have they played either system. SHUT THE F*CK UP YOU STUPID F.AGGOT!

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# too #8Guest 2006-09-16 22:27
you are a retard arnt you, ps2 was weaker graphicaly then the game cube, it was the ps2 3rd party support that made it number one.

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# number 20 is gayGuest 2006-09-16 23:06
learn to read becuase hes saying at the initial release of the ps2 people were at awe because of the graphics.... ok dumbass were the xbox or gamecube out yet? ok so go suck a d!ck :)

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# Guest 2006-09-16 23:14
The author made so many valid points of concern for the Wii, but fanboy REFUSE to believe that the console is anything less than ABSOLUTELY PERFECT.

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# I hate people like thisGuest 2006-09-16 23:34
22. Your right there were some valid points, but this was pretty obviously an attempt at bashing the Wii.



The online play, yeah that applies to the PS3 as well.



A beefed up gamecube, yeah in the same way the PS3 is a beefed up PS2 and the 360 is a beefed up XBox. Except it's not, the Wii has had more than performance upgrades.



The launch line up, some people are never happy. At the GC launch I bet he was one of those complaining that it was all 1st party games, and then there were no games released for ages. Make you mind up idiot.



His "third problem" contradicted himself as everyone pointed out so that can just be ignored.



Oh, and 15, go back and actually look at those "kiddy games". They weren't kiddy at all, they just didn't have huge amounts of blood or mindless killing spree. That doesn't mea they're kiddy, and a game having those things doesn't make them "mature" as everyone seems to think.



But yeah these opinionated anti PS3/Wii things are starting to get really annoying now.

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# number 21Guest 2006-09-17 00:31
NO, but teh DC was and looked just as good or even better, compared to first gen ps2 games.

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# ewrrweGuest 2006-09-17 01:43
wii is gay and I'm gay for it

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# funnyGuest 2006-09-17 04:06
its funny that when an article like this comes out for the PS3 you fanboys like to rag on it and take it as fact all day long, but when its about the Wii you start crying like babies.

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# Guest 2006-09-17 04:37
23: The author's tone reveals that he is not making an attack on the console, but merely raising concerns.



Regarding the point on online play, he's simply saying that IF Nintendo botches it up, it would be terrible for the Wii. He's not saying that it'd suck out loud, nor is he prematurely comparing it to other consoles and dictating whether it is good or bad. That's why he didn't raise the PS3, because this isn't an attack or attempt to bash the Wii, simply raising it as a concern and a disadvantage when compared to another competitor.



And on the launch list, is his point not valid? Once again, I would like to say that he is merely raising concerns that the Wii does not have a strong launch list. Does he say that the Wii or Nintendo suck because the launch list is in his opinion lacking? No, simply points out that if Nintendo were to have a stronger launch list, the Wii would undoubtedly perform much better in sales.



To clarify his third point, it isn't that the Wii is outright hard to develop for. It is that it is *different* because of the wiimote, and requires a special team to develop for, unlike the other two next-gen consoles which have pretty much the same structure as the consoles before. Of course, other consoles will have their own share of problems, like the PS3 with its OMGCELL complex development structure to maximise its potential, but nonetheless, it is a valid point made.



To conclude, the article is simply trying to say that the Wii, even with all the positive media, is not perfect, and there are still some concerns amidst all the praise for it.

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# Guest 2006-09-17 08:14
How about this? If you have an opinion about the Wii and how it works, just stfu and keep it to yourself.



The console hasn't even launched for crying out loud and people are already talking about it like they've taken one apart.

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# Guest 2006-09-17 08:40
4 Little Potential prob shut the ***** up lol

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# Guest 2006-09-17 10:35
Yay! Arguments are fun!

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# I agree... but!Annony 2006-09-17 19:14
The Wii has an innovative feature compared to the GameCube, which was just 'another console' to be honest. That's why I think the GC didn't fare compared to the Xbox and PS2.

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# think rightGuest 2006-09-18 00:26
i think that the wii is way better than the xbox360 and the ps3 it may not be powerfull as the others but it probably waist less energy

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# weak launch line up??????!Guest 2006-09-18 04:00
Umm to bad that the Wii's line up has more diversity than any other launch plus that of 360 and ps3. The reason they only have 2 1st party games is because they have been getting such a lash out from people saying that Nintendo is the only one who makes good games for Nintendo and that 3rd parties worst enemy is Nintendo themself when they make games for there console. So in turn they decided they should back off from the line up and in turn everyone turns back on there words and wants more 1st person titles??? huh?



Online okay okay they never where one up on the online thing but they are trying a medium not for the online games but more for the news/weather/chat because that's what the casual gamer wants (so they think).



Beefed up gamecube. Like it was said in other coments so is the ps3 a beefed up ps2 and the 360 is a beefed up xbox... wow you pinned the tail on the donkey.



Yes dev like the easy ability to make games for the wii but oh wait they have this controller thing to use. So yes that takes another team to implement that feature so in doesn't take long to make the game but it does take awhile to make use of the controller.



Kiddie games.... Okay every system makes kid games yes even xbox, playstation, and psp it's just that Nintendo makes them better and are know for making great kid games. Why sue them for that. Nintendo has all the other adult games (ports remember) multiplatform games and even some that are only for. Granted they don't have GTA but seriously don't we have enough of it? Eh stupid question people love sequals but always balk at them too.... intesting huh

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