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Wii is not a video game machine, says former DICE CEO |
Listed in: Wii Tags: fredrik liliegrin, Nintendo
Fredrik Liliegrin, former CEO and co-founder of DICE, has said that Nintendo's Wii console isn't a gaming machine. In his opinion, it's a "virus" and Nintendo knows it. Speaking to Gaming Union, Liliegrin said:
I would describe it as a Virus, that doesn't stick. Everyone comes home, it's a toy, people have got to realize the Wii is a toy, not an entertainment focused product. People come home, someone, they play Wii for a bit, feel it's really cool, blah blah blah, they go out and buy one.
Ask people how often they play the Wii, that are not the core game consumer that buys one because they have an Xbox 360 and a Wii or a PlayStation 3 and a Wii. The people that only own the Wii, ask that consumer how often they use their machine. They just don't use it, it was cool, but they're not gamers, so they put it away.
Other than the Wii Fit phenomenon that helped a lot of people get a nice cutie voice telling that they're fat and need to go work out, they need to find other alternatives. Nintendo is smart in that way in that they realize this is not a video game machine, this is not a games game machine.
As for developing games for the Nintendo console, Liliegrin said that he would only do it if he got paid. He wouldn't risk releasing a new IP for the Wii unless he thought he had "an absolute home run".
Via [Gaming Union]
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Back to the article; with all the gimmicks that come with the Wiimote, IT IS more or less considered a toy by many.
There is gonna be a high chacne ISOHAVEN might wanna WTF?!?! this atricle too.
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remember the eye toy
and now im sure some of the older people on this blog, would probably be able to ryhme of other motion control products
WIII == Nothing new
NATAL ========= definitely is nothing new
Id be interested in the ARC, but still cant see it catching on, although it could have some uses, ore core game uses that the two above
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Games designed to ONLY use Natal or the PS3 wand will very much be similar to the Wii situation, you get bored with them, fast. Although the competitive aspect of Xbox Live will help there, makes it more fun than Wii IMO as you are competing with everyone on your friends list.
However the way these new PS3 and Xbox control methods will shine, is to integrate them into games that use them in addition to classic controls.
This is particularly a winner for Natal, as you could do motions while still holding the normal pad and it could monitor your facial expressions (although its probably not accurate enough to do this), etc. If it does head tracking well, it could slightly change the viewport as your head moves, which would give a kind of 3D effect like when you look out of a Window. That could have a very profound effect on how realistic games feel.
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VIDEO GAME - See the word GAME?
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Did we just find the one Wii fanboy out there?
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I have to agree there. I keep buying Nintendo consoles JUST to keep playing mario, zelda, medtroid.... I love all of them!
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This is a video gaming console: http://gadgets.infoniac.com/uimg/soundwave-robot-form.jpg
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Is there any developer that would develop for any console if they weren't being paid?
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It's a "machine"...and video games are released for it... I guess that makes it a machine that can play videogames, but not a videogame machine, right?
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but the wii does suck(game wise)
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I can't think of any, except Zelda - Twilight Princess, the upcoming Monster Hunter Tri or WiiWare-Classics.
The Wii is a party console. Get three friends, hand a wiimote to each, say "swing that thing, d00d!" and everyone, except armless people, will have a good time.
What I want to say, the Wii is a party console.
Not only due to the games available, but due to the easy controls.
And just for your information: Yes, I am one of those "old skool" gamers who prefer gameplay over graphics.
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Good job, big guy. Stay Classy.
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my family doesn't need gfx, someone who doesn't have the gameplay needs the gfx!
i think this guy got told no by Nintendo and is now butt hurt, same guy who said MK vs DC wasn't getting made on Wii cause he doesn't make games for consoles that are old news or something along those lines. I am glad he is no longer with DICE
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In fact, when I play on the Wii I always get annoyed at how last-gen it looks with its big, blocky graphics that look washed out.
Deny it all you want, but good graphics DO improve gameplay. As an example, Burnout Revenge was a lot better on Xbox 360 because you can see the cars further in the distance (more pixels, finer detail) so you can judge your next action sooner.
This is in fact why many people still choose PC over consoles.
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But what matters. If Wii is a "virus" then it's a virus that makes a tons and tons of money, more than PS3 or Xbox 360.
Wii has its own catalogue of games, and the oldies for retro time. Xbox 360 has but can't compete, and PlayStation as far as I've saw on PSN, they have Minis (type of mobile games/mini games).
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It makes tons but only because non games also buy it...it makes tons on hardware but hardly has any blockbuster tittle...only first party games really take off...on the other real consoles you have great first party and also great 3rd party ones...but wit the incursion of motion crap on both 360 and ps3 I sense a lot of crappy games to come buy...at least on Sony's side some existing games will support motion controller...but i have my reservations towards Natal...
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You look at the metacritic on average PS3, 360, and Wii scores. Wii is considerably lower in score because of shovel ware. Which is the what this is all about. Sure the score has gone up lately for Nintendo, but that's because over 30% of Nintendo games are going unreviewed (which by the way are shovelware titles).
http://nin-ten-do.com/michael-pachter-wiis-shovelware/
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1. The PS1 did have a lot of crap, but did sell well.
2. The Wii does have a lot of crap, but also sells well.
3. People said the PS1 was great... and so you can infer from the first two arguments that the Wii must also be great.
4. 3rd party companies cannot complain when they release substandard games...
5. 3rd party companies that do release good games, get good sales... I wonder how many copies Monster Hunter Tri will sell?
6. Halo was crap, and newer versions of the game do little to improve it.
7. FF is crap... who in their right mind would spend hours on a boss only to die... waste of life!!
So please, tell me which one is not actually true then, because all points are true.
No going on to your point about shovelware... yes the Wii may have set a record of having the highest amount but guess what...
1. The Wii has set the record for most sales ever, beating the original Nintendo (something that PS3 and 360 have not done)
2. Wii set the record for fastest selling games console.
And many more, I am sure you get the point.... PS3 and 360 have been out-manoeuvred and out-sold and fanboys do not like it... something that although does not have the same advanced graphical power has done better purely with better controls...
SO again, what is not a true statement?
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In fact, I have bought many games which clearly were Wii ports as the graphics didn't look up-to-par with the Xbox 360. But they still looked better than on the Wii.
You are forgetting that the online component on Xbox 360 makes a huge difference to many of us. It makes EVERY game competitive against our friends worldwide, even games which normally would be a single-player affair.
I can tell you now, if Zelda Twilight Princess was on Xbox 360 I would have played it a LOT more and probably gotten around to completing it. But it looks like crap on a HDTV which is somewhat distracting.
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I should have gone with the PS3 or the 360...
Besides, they don't even use the Wii anymore because of the games I have for it. (Usually for my kind of audience)
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people who just buy a wii probably aren't gamers and end up not playing it much.
Response: So? You said they aren't gamers so their use of the machine has no bearing on its status as a game system.
The wii isn't a 'hardcore' machine because it isn't meant to be. There is very little in terms of single player action because its meant as a family and multiplayer system. So are you making the argument that a multiplayer system isn't 'hardcore'? ONOES. It's still a game console @_@ And it has quite a few good titles.
if you want multiplayer and single player action then you buy two console.
tl;dr
My hair is a bird: Your argument is invalid.
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i think that about sums it up.
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I prefer gameplay over graphics aswell...but with a controller not waving your hands "like a complete idiota" (from Mucha Lucha XD), and to be honest....I rather have a party and play Twister or table Monopoly than Wii...
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