Survey reveals that consumers expect the PS3 to be around $ 300 |
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No doubt, this year's holiday season is getting more and more interesting for gamers. The release of next-gen consoles Wii and PS3 is sure one great way to cap off 2006, and a promising start for the year to come.
Interestingly, the next gen bug is spreading to most consumers: casual, hardcore, and non-gamers alike. And who wouldn't? Microsoft raked more than a million sales with the Xbox 360, with its notable online features. Sony, the gaming mogul for nearly a decade with its PlayStation line, is unleashing its uber-powerful media hub PS3, with its reported mind-blowing graphics and power. And Nintendo's advertising family-friendly Wii, with its motion-sensing features and funky controls.
But exactly how informed is the public about the aforementioned units? A recent study revealed that "almost half (48%) of those considering a PS3 expect it to cost less than $300—equivalent to the original price of a PS2." Wow, talk about demanding.
Now, I'm not flaming Sony or anything. I'm just thinking that the public deserves to be better informed about gaming details like this, after all, they are consumers and are more likely going to be a statistic to these consoles' sales calculations, with all the next gen hype that we're getting. Of course, it would be just lovely for gaming to finally go mainstream, but we also need to take note that despite all the buzz, hype and whatnot, we shouldn't forget to include the important details as well.
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Aight fanboys go ahead and post why the ps3 is uber cool and better than sliced bread. Bottom line is people aren't going to pay 600 for a system unless they are fanboys or hardcore gamers. Hardcore gamers only make up maybe 20% of the market.
I was going to buy a PS3 but then I found out that it is $600 bucks last week so I'm not buying it anymore. That is a waste of money and I think I'm going to buy an HD-DVD player instead. This article is very true.... PS3 is too expensive and over-rated. The graphics look exactly like XBOX.
Yep. XBOX 360 is just as good as PS3 graphically and even better on the live front. Why pay double the price for PS3? What a rip! The only people who really take offense to a comment such as this are either A: Fanboys, B: People that waste their money, C: People that don't understand anything about tech specs and think the PS3 will be more powerful just because it has a cell processor. Wrong!
The only thing that will meet their price expectations will be the Wii.
Surprise market sweep?
you think the PS3 is a waste of money at $600, and instead you're going to spend anywhere from $500-1000 on a movie player that might be today's Betamax?
i'm not a PS3 defender, i own a 360 and love it to death. just felt the need to point out the craziness.
Where are you getting your numbers? Sony currently has about 70% market share, just taking PS2 and PSP sales into account. Now factor in that every PS3 from launch to mid-summer 2007 will more than likely be grabbed off the shelves within minutes. Even in the unlikely event that US/Japanese demand drops off slightly come February/March 2007, those consoles would be snapped up by European gamers in a heartbeat via a plethora of ebay auctions.
Sony will loose a few percentage points of the market share over the Christmas period due to demand far outstripping the supply of new consoles. Promising exclusive gaming content in early 2007 especially, continued exclusivity on Metal Gear Solid, not to mention the Final Fantasy line, are sure signs that the PS3 will be successful.
that price tag has never worked before,didn't they learn from the psp's luke warm sales? the saturn's? the 3Do's? and so on... the 360 probably suffers from it's high price point,but now it's a cheaper system with the same games as PS3,what would you buy?
Final Fantasy and Metal Gear won't save the PS3. You act like:
1) These will be exclusives. We don't know yet, but considering all of Sony's OTHER "exclusives"...
2) That the other consoles WON'T HAVE GOOD GAMES.
On a final note, Final Fantasy and Metal Gear are great and all, but they're no Zelda or Halo, and other consoles have their perks too. Don't pretend these games can't be snatched up by other console-makers.
how the ***** did you not know the ps3 was $600 til last week and you go on qj, this news has been out for 7 months, and then your going to get an hd-dvd player, im with pixelate above on that one
im a double E major (electrical engineering) and i dont have the time to fully answer this question b/c ive got homework in 3rd order circuits to finish, so im just going to tell you, your wrong...yes the ps3 is powerful, but not more powerful than the 360, stop reading articles you find on the internet, look at the actual designs and the direct specifications, use some circuit and digital design analysis, and you will see, if you cant figure it out yourself, then shut the ***** up please.
Ok, so sony is going to survive on the Metal Gear Solid, and FF franchises alone? Sure...Im sure those 400,000 gammers will agree with you. But think about this
Now how abou you X-BOX 360 gamers? Well Im sure you millions of xbox owners will agree with me that xbox is going to crush ps3 with all the games its getting, and its 1/2 the price of ps3. So those that want the same type of system for half the price will also agree xbox is better.
And im sure the 4,000,000 other soon to be wii owners will agree with me that Metal Gear solid and final fantasy will never, EVER compair to Zelda: Twilight Princess, Metroid Corruption, Mario Galaxy, Super Smash Bros Brawl, and many more 'killer aps'.
Sony corp is finally falling down into the ***** they spew out each and every day! DOWN WITH SONY, UP WITH NINTENDO (and microsoft to some extent ;P )
Actually moron he's right and the PS3 is indeed more powerful than the XBox 360 and if you weren't such a moron, you can just google it or go to any technology site and they will say the same. So can YOU please shut the **** up. I'm going to feel sorry for all the companies you'll be working for when they know they have a moron who doesn't know ***** working for them.
That was an interesting read. I am a big tech geek, and work with a lot of computer hardware. There is a lot more going on with the power of a processor then just its raw Mhz. Pipelines, cache, architecture, everything. There are good reasons way a 400mhz AMD processor was WAY faster then a 400mhz Intel. But if you think a 299mhz processor in a $200(?) machine that came out in 2000 has performance comparable to a 1.5 ghz wich came out about 2 years later, you are rediculously mistaken. Comparable to a 500mhz intel, maybe, but 1.5ghz is fantasy land.
yeah and the psp is more powerful than a ps2...
according to sony,that is.
"Bottom line is people aren't going to pay 600 for a system unless they are fanboys or hardcore gamers"
Right Mr ignorant. PS2 launched for $550 in Europe, and it sold like hotcakes.
Oh and the PS3 is already selling, (the lines in Japan after the initial crazy-fan lines were full of casually dressed women, children, elderly people,) but keep convincing yourself that people don't want it at that price.
Dustbox 360 won't attract people for a 100 less.
the casual gamer *won't* pay $600 for a PS3. it's fortunate then, that, by the time they will actually be able to get their hands on the console, it will be after all the hardcore PS3 fans have gobbled up the $500/$600 version.
by the time the PS3 is ready for mainstream consumption, it will be around 2008, and the PS3 will be undergoing a price drop (i'd guess about $400 for the 20gig, $500 for the 60gig. the casual gamer won't care for the extra bells and whistles the 60gig has).
sure, hardcore gamers may make up 20% of the market, but how many of those hardcore gamers are *SONY* fans? remember, the Playstation brand is synonymous with gaming now. if half of that 20% hardcore are Sony fans, that's 10 million hardcore Playstation fans will and are, dying to get their hands on a PS3 in the next year(i'm using the total number of PS2's sold this past 6 years as my numbers. that's over 100 million Playstation supporters, by the way).
that 10 million fits very snuggly inside of the usual sales of a Playstation console within a year (the PS2 sold about 10 million in it's first year, the PS1 sold nearly the same, if not the same).
stop underestimating the Playstation name and brand, simply because it's Sony behind it. if this story was about Microsoft or Nintendo, i'm sure you wouldn't fail to argue the point in their favor.
Playstation has *owned* gaming for the past 10 years. it's time we accepted that and moved on, purchasing and enjoying the system (s) that have the games we want to play.
this fanboyism has got to stop. seriously.
i think nintendo sucks now.... a repackaged gamecube?... games for kids...? Sales of wii will do extremely well initially... but ps3 should be able to catch up soon... i think 360 will do a lot better than previous incarnation....
Halo 3 won't save the X Box 360. You act like:
1.) Halo is the be all, end all of video games, and also that everyone that owns an X Box owns Halo and Halo 2(here's a hint: they don't. i'm one of them).
2.) That the PS3 won't have good games besides Final Fantasy XIII and Metal Gear Solid 4.
On a final note, the 360 is failing miserably in Japan. in a few weeks, the PS3 will have outsold the 360 by a large margin. it's already sold over 80,000 in just *TWO* days. what's going to happen when Sony actually manages to supply the crazy demand that is over there? unless Microsoft pulls some mana from their asses, the 360 is lost in Japan, much like it's predecessor. you can't fail in one country, and yet still be dominant in gaming. Japan will always be a thorn in Microsoft's side. this is the only thing that is keeping them from being number one. imagine if the 360 had sold as well in Japan as it has in the US (about 3.4 million here in the states). they would have reached their 10 million goal by years end no problem. unfortunately, they still haven't given the Japanese what they want, and by the time they do, the PS3 has already launched there, and Sony plans on supplying them with more units every week from here on out.
it's true that Metal Gear and Final Fantasy can be snatched up by other developers. but Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Shadow of the Colossus, God of War, Resistance, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Lair, Monster Kingdom, Eye of Judgement, Gran Turismo and White Knight Story cannot. Metal Gear and Final Fantasy are not the only reason's why people love Playstation, but they definitely help.
and are you seriously telling me that there aren't diehard Playstation fans that would kill to get their hands on Ninja Gaiden Sigma (especially the stubborn fanboy that refuses to own a 360 or Wii)?
i used to own Ninja Gaiden Black on the X Box (i traded it in for Final Fantasy XII), and it's a great game. the X Box sold 25 million units worldwide. the PS2 sold 100 million. there are *millions* of PS2 fans that have never played that amazing game, and now it's coming to their favorite console. do you not think that's going to boost sales of the PS3?
after having played resistance fall of man on my ps3(bought in japan) theres nothing 360 has against it.so many ppl also are considering ps3 as a game console.thats like saying pc's are only game consoles too.linux can be dual booted on a ps3,it accepts ANY 2.5 INCH STA HDD,and NEVER slows down.ive been playing resistance online with many friends here in japan but never any slowdowns with 20-30+ ppl online at one time.its absolutely incredible.plus its worth it even for a blu-ray player so many ppl are gonna do that when they look into bluray.even if their not using it for games many ppl will upgrade to bluray and may end up buying at least a game or two.the ps1 was expensive for its time,was after a competitor,and won.ps2 was expensive,came after a competitor,and won.ps3 will still hold a household name as the most wanted system out there.and plus with 360 and ps3 if a person is spending 400+ dollars on something I doubt they will want to take a step down to lower hardware without going all out for slightly more.this is what is gonna make wii and ps3 so nice.with 360 your spending a lot,but not getting a full package.wii your not getting a full package but its relative to the price.ps3 your spending a lot but still getting the full package.plus Im sick and tired of having to buy a very limited console,and pay more for must need functionality.I shouldnt have to pay one of the worlds richest companies for online games,I shouldnt have to pay to get the full game,which from the looks of 360 and live,your not actually getting the full game when you buy it.I shouldnt have to pay for an add-on adapter to make it futureproof(360 hd-dvd drive),and shouldnt pay more for limited stuff that could have been the best.and I would not argue the 360 being 300 bucks,because then its just more expensive to actually play games it was made to do.
I even hope microsoft does better.although theres 6 million on xbox live,thats all the ppl with an xbox.thats competing with how many millions of ps2?100?200?btw microsoft should just stop all advertising in japan for xbox at all simply because it will lose them money.maybe then they can make online free.
My Psp Is Better Than Ps3 And Xbox 360 *****a.... Lol Naw Just Kiddin I think The Ps3 Is Going To Be 2 Tight I'll Buy It....
over 15 million PSP's sold isn't "luke warm," sales. not in the least.
how about the 8 million that the Sega Game Gear sold in it's lifetime? that luke warm?
or the 1-3 million that the Atari Lynx and WonderSwan sold in their lifetime?
technology has changed over the years. and aside from that, you aren't considering other factors. i'll list them:
1.) back when the 3DO released, the majority of gamers were aged 9-16. they hardly had the incomes to buy a $600 CD player/Game Console.
now, the average gamer is aged 25-33. it's no coincidence that these gamers are the same 15 year olds that couldn't buy 3DO's back in 1995 because they didn't have the money. things are different now.
2.) the 3DO didn't have a brand name behind it that gamers trusted. if Nintendo or Sega had released the console, it would have done better, but still, the market back then was too young.
now, the Playstation brand is synonymous with gaming. they've built up a brand trust amongst consumers, and those gamers have enjoyed many classic gaming moments and experiences thanks to the Playstation brand. they grew up on Playstation, and they are bonded to Playstation, much like how i grew up with Nintendo, and until recently, i was bonded to Nintendo.
3.) The PS3 isn't just a gaming console. for those that want just a gaming console, there are two alternatives: the Wii, and the X Box 360. for those that want a multimedia device for a fair price that plays games, there's the PS3. in the consumer's eyes, when they start comparing features of the PS3 versus it's competitors, they will make up their own minds if what Sony is offering them is what they want, and purchase accordingly. not everybody is going to want a PS3, but not everybody is going to want the other two in it's stead. it is all about choice, and all 3 gaming manufacturers are giving us a choice.
personally, i see great value in the PS3: a $400 gaming console, with a $50 Blu Ray drive, $50 Wi Fi adapter, $25 SD and Flash Slots, and $25 HDMI port equipped. i have all i need to enjoy my movies and games and internet right in one box. the $500 PS3 is a bargain as well.
and if i wanted just a gaming console, but still wanted the purty graphics, i'd get a 360.
also, the PS3 and 360 *don't* all have the same games. see my above post where i list a few of the exclusive titles for the PS3. if anyone wants to play those games, they'll have to get a PS3.
the 360 has some exclusives as well, but to me, they are still genre titles (ie, FPSes and Shooters). there are a few standouts (ie, Lost Planet and Blue Dragon), but overall, the console is an FPS and shooter lovers dream. the PS3 lineup is a bit more diverse, though it has it's fair share of FPSes and shooters two (though they are mainly multi-platform).
Microsoft knows it's audience. Sony knows it's audience, and Nintendo knows their audience. they will satisfy each, guaranteed. there will be more of a balance this time around, but due to Sony's marketshare and brand name, they have a few more advantages than it's competitors.
The psp may be more powerful than the psp. (assuming you are correct cause I'm to lazy to look it up lol) but the ps2 uses dvd discs which hold a lot more than umds. This is evident in examples such as thug 2 which has mostly the same graphics in both ps2 and psp but they had to take things such as the level editor out to make it fit.
Now to the rant above (mr. 4 paragraph essay. :)) It doesn't mean ***** if the ps3 beats xbox 360 in power.The games are the only things that matter. As proven by the last generation. Xbox kicked ps2s ass in sheer power, yet when pitted against playstation classics such as mgs, tekken, ff, and countless other playstation exclusives, Halo couldn't win. That could very well happen this time around. The only thing I see in the favor of ps3 is the built in blu-ray drive, which by itself costs a small fortune. Whereas the xbox 360 is using dual layer dvds. dual layer dvds+8.5 GBs blu-ray+25 GBs per layer! I personally think that ps3 is worth the money, if I had it :'(, the ps2 actually boosted the sale of dvds and I am expecting the same from the ps3. All in all, I think that it is still to early to tell.
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Read and weep sony fanboys. 360 wins!
Ho boy, are these idiots in for a suprise. Do you know what the dumb thing is? Most of the Walmart employees (where most of the uninformed crowd will buy a ps3) either (A) don't the price either or (B) couldn't explain the difference between the two consoles to save their lives. Video games used to be a kid thing but the PS3 is an adult oriented device and you need to be well informed before making the decision to buy. Most parents won't figure that out until they have the thing in hand and see the price tag with their eyes. Even though, in my opinion, the PS3 warrents its pricetage, they won't be able to figure that out and will smack their kids for even thinking about wanting one. People are so dumb...
" I have spent one semester to study computer programming and analysis as a part time student; so I know more than I need to teach you some basic information and knowledge because the comment threads and forums are full of wrong information and knowledge; "
Haaa haaa haaa you are a *****ing retard. You studied programming and analysis, and that makes you smart how? I'm a graduate software engineer, just cause I can write code doesn't mean I know more about the PS3s power and capabilities more than anyone else. Your a *****ing sack of ***** go /wrists and die.
I'll lay this out very simple.
You like PS3. You're gunning for it.
That's fine.
I like Nintendo. I'm gunning for it.
I believe that is also fine.
Please do not reprimand me as if I wasn't making a point to Mike, because I was. I didn't say the PS3 was doomed, I just said, AND I QUOTE "Final Fantasy and Metal Gear won't save the PS3". AND THEY WON'T. That's fact. 2 games don't save a console, no matter what console it is.
I didn't mention the other games PS3 has to offer. I didn't for a reason. Because it didn't work into MY POINT. My point being, JUST Final Fantasy and Metal Gear aren't enough.
Those games you mentioned for the PS3 are good games, you can bet your silver dollar they are. And I acknowledge that.
But each console, just like I said, has their own perks. We can play the name-game all you want, we can come up with the games that each console tends to govern, which support each system as unofficial exclusives.
But playing the name game would be pointless. And time consuming. And would only serve to alleviate fanboyism over consoles.
Halo isn't the end all be all. AND I NEVER SAID THAT IT IS. I WAS MAKING A POINT. Please don't take my words out of context.
Playstation 3 may sell more than xbox 360 in Japan but that does not mean xbox 360 cannot be a success In Japan, only 3 types of games sell the most, those are Action, Rpg and Sports, Xbox 360 is not selling well because there is no AAA Japanese games for the system, now that has changed the recently released dead rising is doing well in japan, also konami's winning eleven soccer, and with the upcoming lost planet, blue dragon, and dead or alive xtreme 2 being released before the end of the year along with good third party support, microsoft has the 3 genres covered and then some. Proof is in the sales, xbox 360 has been selling roughly 2000 units per week since launch, the playstation 2 in comparison sells roughly 20000 per week (1:10) just recently xbox 360 sold 6500 units in a week (1:4) a big improvement in my eyes, why?, because the AAA games are finally coming out. The Japanese are not bias toward xbox or microsoft they are simply waiting to see some good Japanese games on the system.
by the way sony DOES NOT have 100 million playstation 2 customers, They have REPEAT purchases, sony has SHIPPED and SOLD over 100 million playstation 2s, but Sony have more like 50 - 60 million customers, proof is in the fact that every one on this forum knows some one that had to buy a second playstation 2 or had to buy a second themselves, I know someone who is on their third playstation 2, now compare that to how many people you know who bought a second xbox or gamecube, I know some people are going to reply and lie, but you all know I am telling the truth.
So what if the ps3 wins, it sux to be them cus they get to miss out on a lot of great stuff, via xbox live video marketplace coming nov. 22. and sure this is when the ps3 fanboys will come out and say, "xbox live sux". no not really. but i will admit there are sum problems with it. but serously, the ps3 is just like a third bundle for a 360. i don't care who wins, but i do care how much money i have to spend.
360 Is every bit as good.........infact its way out front at the moment, Sonys over priced BBQ will need to be something awsome, what I have seen so far is nothing short of very poor, with deadfull online gaming, check out Tony Hawlks 8 it is dreadfull compaired to the 360 version. If blue ray is to be the formate of the future then yes the Ps3 will be the top console in 18 months, however if blue ray is not then Sony have a big problem, as they have not given their customer the choice, its take blue ray or leave it.
Anyway Microsoft will be drafting up there next console and I am sure that it will be awsome, Lets not under estimate microsofts resourses, the Xbox 360 is here to stay.
I'm not going to put my house on layaway just to pay for a PS3. Sure, it might be good like people say, but I won't use it as much as I use my PSP anyway.