Cue Nintendo-defending post from ISOHaven in 3... 2... 1...

Thanks for the introduction Freeplay. It's always nice to see lame, worhtless comments that bring nothing to the table because you don't actually have anything to say on the subject except for your normal meaningless shlt talk.



Getting on to the subject. As always, I bring FACTS to the table. Let's just pretend for a moment that the Wii is a fad. After all, the pet rock made someone rich!!!



1. The product makes money and spreads joy. Sales figures alone support the Wii 100%. So even if it is a fad....so what? What does that information tell us? On to #2



#2. A console IS NOT A FAD. They've been around for how long? They're going to be around for how long? By pure definition alone, calling the Wii a fad is pure ignorance.



"a temporary fashion, notion, manner of conduct, etc., esp. one followed enthusiasticall y by a group."



When someone can explain to me how a product, having been sold STRONG for 24 months, is a fad...then I'll agree that the Wii is a fad. However, even then, so what? What does that mean? Absolutely nothing.



Nintendo has been around for a long time and will stick around for a long time. That's the exact opposite of "fad".



Hey Freeplay, when you're done choking on that let me know and I'll pull my boot out of your ass!

Thanks for proving my point, kiddo.

ISOHaven sure has a lot of time on his hands to defend *****tendo and the Pii. If it had any good games (no, it doesn't, you're an idiot by the way, also, the Wii sucks, has no good games, the games it does have are ports or rehashes or poorly thought out uses for the dildo or minigames) he's be playing it instead of waiting to jump on any anti-Nintendo comments.



Backstreet boys were around for a while as well. They turned out to be quite the fad.

seriously ISOhaven, did you even bother to read the post cause their calling the wii an expensive board game, not a fad. Board game like monopoly which you play maybe 4 times a year and for the rest of the year it's in the closet collecting dust. But monopoly is not a fad.

The fact that I can play legends of games such as Twilight Princess and Mario Galaxy is only the tip of the iceberg.



The homebrew for Wii means that I can run emulators, listen to music, watch DVD's, videos, and run Linux on a nice small white box that ouputs 720p at a price that's pretty cool.



For me, that's a pretty neat machine to be sold in game and electronic shops everywhere.

Not to mention, it also has the said appeal for families and non-gamers for when they visit.

I'm off to play Ocarina Of Time on my little neat near-silent white special box.

There's no original good games for the wii... >_>



Either they're ports of the ps2 (I'm not saying that's bad) or pure shovelware straight up crap!



I think Nintendo should be the only one's allowed to make games on the wii, since 3rd party developer's are hardly trying and just release a port or just crap to make some quick dough.



...I think the only original game wii had recently is ubisoft's "No more Heroes" that hasn't been done before for any other systems other than the wii itself.



I'm not saying ports are bad...but some ports the developer's are so lazy that make the most un-playable control schemes that make the game a complete failure. -_-



I hope these 3rd party developers get their act together, otherwise the Wii will become the most hated console in history by hardcore gamers alone...because of the way they're treating the fastest and most popular console in the market doesn't justify buying one at all....

@RavenSPe - How do you figure? According to your false logic then ALL consumer products are fads as ALL of them will eventually stop production. That would make the term useless. So how do we isolate the fads? Easy, if a product lasts IT'S LIFE CYCLE then it's not a fad. The Wii will certainly last it's life cycle.



@FreePlay - What are you thanking him for? According to him ALL THREE are fads. If that's the case then this bit if news cancels itself out. Meaning the information is worthless. Your point wasn't proven.



"Seriously, suck Nintendo's wang a little harder next time."



That ends that. Thanks for proving what a jackass you are.



@Orlyeh - Hilarious!!! I have no problem standing up to a bunch of fanboys. Bring it bltches!



I find it hilarious that a consumer product can have almost 50% market share, be 1 of 3 and still have people whine and cry about how it must be a failure simply because it doesn't suit THEM. Such small minds around here. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !

Gee, calling people idiots and making up childish nicknames for anything you dislike? Sounds like someone is picking fights in the playground. Try laying off the fanboyism and work on bringing some decent points to the table next time. Yarly.

@RavenSPe - How do you figure? According to your false logic then ALL consumer products are fads as ALL of them will eventually stop production.







--That is true, you did say by pure definition did you not?







That would make the term useless. So how do we isolate the fads?







--It's not useless, I understand full heartedly that electronics are all fads and become absolete shortly after they are released and replaced by higher end models.







Easy, if a product lasts IT'S LIFE CYCLE then it's not a fad. The Wii will certainly last it's life cycle







--Please explain what a life cycle is lol, in one of your arguments about the backstreet boys you say they are a fad because they did not last long. Perhaps they lasted as long as they had intended to and therefore lasted their "life cycle" and are NOT a fad? You make little sense.

ISOHaven: Say one negative thing about Nintendo.

I'm not a ''troll fanboy'', I love my 360.

I was just stating the good points about the Wii since people are just mentioning the bad points, rather than the good, homebrew related points.

For me, as a gamer, the homebrew for Wii makes it worth MY money, that's all.



I hate fanboys.



Also, you misspelled "weak".

I knew you'd have nothing after that. You never do.



Just more childish crap.

wow, a wii fanboy... first time ever.

"The 360 is only good for First person shooter and first person shooter accessories(ha) ." I guess you never played racing games or madden09 on it.



"The ps3 has trouble out-selling the ps2 on a weekly basis." I would agree a year ago but recently I got one and it is nolonger ps2 compatible. But then why the hell would I use it to play ps2 games? I have to admin in my city PS3 is not as hot as 360 (and you can tell how much shelf space .. 360 has twice as much space in each store I visit). PS3 is a solid system but there are just way too few exclusive around. Since I got a 360 a lot earlier there is not point to get most of older PS3 games as they are already available on 360 and I played them all.

Can I ask what everybody has against ISO. I love that guy (...you know what I mean). I think he's friggin' hilarious. Not only that, but he is truly one of the few people on the flame fest that is the QJ comments section(s) that bring true facts to the fight. He is intelligent, witty, and honest.



Now that I'm done sounding kinda gay...



Anyway, ISO, as is usually true, is right about this. The Wii is not a fad. Look at recent events. We see, in this past year, that many great and real games have been released on the Wii. Here is a list of my personal favorites.



Super Mario Galaxy (ok '07, I don't care)

SSBB

Mario Kart Wii (I intentionally started with those 3 Ninty titles to get it out of the way)

No More Heroes

Medal of Honor: Vanguard

Scarface: the World is Yours (I will explain this one after the list)

And 2 TBR

Madworld

The Conduit



Now then, let me go into this further.



Yeah, the first three are Nintendo's own games. You know why? Nintendo actually knows that the Wii is good for this kind of thing. The 3rd party devs that make all the gimmicky games are just rediculous in that they don't even try.



Now then, moving on.



No More Heroes is a Wii exclusive, and a really really great game. I love NMH, it's one of my favorite Wii games. It is probably one of the best. It is completely original (alll except for maybe the beam katana), and it has great, inovative, and easy-to-use controls. NMH is true Wii greatness.



MoH: Vanguard may also be on PS2, but that isn't the point. The point is that it shows that you can really pull off a good FPS on the Wii. The Conduit will do the same only better I'm sure.



Scarface may be on everything, but it shows that the Wii can also be good for GTA-esque games. I'm not sure why Rockstar hasn't made a GTA for the Wii yet, it would be great!



Mad World is going to be amazing. Mad World just shows the true spirit of the Wii as MH does. Unique style, great graphics (yeah Wii doesn't have good graphics, but great meaning for the Wii), and sheer fun. Mad World also proves that the Wii can be used for some friggin' violence now and again.



I'm just as tired of all these stupid gimmicky, play-with-the-family, have fun for some-small-amount-of-minutes games. But, these are starting to fall short on the Wii, and we see more and more actual GAMES coming to the White Rectangle (as my friends and I occasionally refer to it as).



We all know that the Wii really falls short in some departments (graphics, online, etc.), but that's now reason to hate it. As soon as the devs realise that the Wii can be utilized for a true gaming experience, we will finally begin to see the Wii gain a name for it's fame, rather than infamy.

So in other words, you steal all of Nintendo's software. No one cares. But don't a punk about it. Just say WTF you mean.



You make rentals, permanent, via your modchip. You pirate software. Is that so hard to say? You damn p@ssy!

So, you commented above but not here? You're not just a damn p_ssy....your a worthless POS p_ssy with no balls to back up anything that comes out of your mouth. You are truly pathetic.