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Revolution with extensive Third Party Support

Posted Apr 24, 2006 at 8:34AM EST by QJ Staff

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In an interview with Eurogamer, George Harrison, Nintendo's senior vice president of marketing and corporate communications, said that his company has learned from their earlier mistakes regarding the presence of third-party support. On the Gamecube's success (or failure, depending on how you see it), he noted, "Third parties were kind of behind the eight ball in terms of being able to have games ready."
With their lesson learned, what does this mean for the Nintendo Revolution, to be launched later this year? Hints at stronger third party support already made the rounds, and with Ubi Soft's Red Steel already confirmed as a launch title, there's no doubt Nintendo's going to keep up their promise.
Apparently, there's more than 1000 developer kits available for developers, which should provide the groundwork for more third-party titles to come and possibly shown at the upcoming E3.

Harrison also admitted their defeat to Sony's Playstation 2 in the previous console generation. While the Playstation 2 was, of all three machines, the least powerful, it eventually became the most successful one. "One of the things that we did learn (...) is that you have to get third party involvement early and they have to be able to get access early".



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# Too little too late if you ask meGuest 2006-04-24 11:02
They are learning this now? WTH happen to the last 10 years of getting their butts trashed. People buy consoles (handhelds are different!) because of games (GC-> Zelda/Pokemon, xbox -> halo, ps1 -> FF7, ps2 -> long list) not because it’s the smallest or it has a nifty peripheral. I love Nintendo but boy they are as stubborn as my grandmother (I guess it happens when you get well established – MS OSwise, YAHOO etc). I think MS is evil and yet I feel they actually listen. People ask and they give them what they want and Sony also seems to adapt quickly to new technology. Nintendo really needs some young fresh minds, because to be honest I would be very surprise to see the system get more than 10% of the US or European market (quite a different market then the handheld I am afraid). Quite sad to see this from such an amazing company.



Don’t get me wrong, I like the controller idea but when person is at a store and they have a ps3 (did you see the demos =O) or even an xbox360 displaying amazing graphics and you have a revolution pulling less than an original XBOX (the biggest reason why they haven’t demoed any games yet) it will be hard to convince people. Games could save them but they seem to be losing more and more exclusive developers to their competitors.

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# sweetGuest 2006-04-24 11:39
nocomment

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# sweetGuest 2006-04-24 11:40
damn straight the playstation 2 was weak and crapy. nintendo will be by my side the whole time

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# fanboy....Guest 2006-04-24 11:53
OK....lets see. Nobody knows how Revolution games look like. We have just a couple of scans of RedSteel, that about it. Lets just take a look at Gamecube and Xbox1. I think everybody can agree with me and say that Resident Evil 4, is THE best looking game in the current gen. And considering that the xbox1, specwise, has about double the capability of the gamecube. Now Revolution is about 2x the power of gamecube. I can only imagine how good games can look on it.



Now as for nintendo not releasing any demos yet, well thats just nintendo being themselves. They like secrets. Secrets are fun.

PS3 demos are nothing. Yes i was impressed just like everbody else, but they were just trailers. No Actual Gameplay has been shown for the PS3(except warhawk, and i wasnt impressed).

And xbox360? Um..can anybody honestly play their games and feel like their in a new generation? I look at the games and i notice they are somewhat pretty but isnt it just the same games weve been playing for the past 6 yrs??



Last but not least. I'm getting tired of all this talk about Amazing hi-def graphics, and realistic physics, and photorealism. All this graphical power, and the games play the same as if they were ps1 games. Same old boring gameplay, shiny new gfx.



Im no nintendo fanboy...im actually a sony fanboy, well was. Now im neutral...kinda. I still hate MS, and their practises. I dont see how halo is soo good like everybody says. I just see an average sci-fi fps.

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# coooolBranden 2006-04-24 12:00
i wonder if u can hook up mp3s to the rev that would be kinda cool.play ur music while playing video games. i would prefere that because when i'm playing a really stupid hard part in a game i listen to music. After that i tend too own all.

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# @4Guest 2006-04-24 12:11
Resident Evil 4 was the best looking game in this gen.



Games do have the power to look great. Not PS3 40" HDTV great but nothing dissapointing.



And yes secrets are fun (giggle) almost as fun as touching.



Nintendo make me feel like its christmas eve and I cant get to sleep. Thats one feeling everyone likes to remember.

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# @1Shadow714 2006-04-24 12:20
the rev will be better than the x-box. not worse than it

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# GFX are for kidsGuest 2006-04-24 12:51
revolution will be the only system I buy because Nintendo is trying to make better gameplay. PS3 and Xbox360 arent that impressive. My computer blows them both away. If I want power i'll stick to my PC. I want innovation, and the revolution is the only one that has what i'm looking for. Forget graphics, thats kids stuff.

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# hmm powerGuest 2006-04-24 12:59
#7



Not see CPU wise (Revolution)729 MHz vs (original Xbox)733MHz

http://revolution.ign.com/articles/699/699118p1.html



But of course nowadays is not all about the cycles but developers have claimed that is will be just a tad bit better than the xbox.



RE4 is great, but the graphics there look great because of the style not really power.



If the Rev cost 100-150$ I'll buy it just have it when company comes over and we can all have a good time shaking each other's remotes ;-) just please no more pokemon!!! [phewking in the bathroom thinking about pokemon with the Rev control]

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# Pokemon + NR = Disciplining!!! !Guest 2006-04-24 13:21
I heard in the next pokemon you can Train them, and discipline them. Kinda like Black & White.

Now wouldnt it be fun to train our pokemon by smaking the ***** out of it to be scared *****less of you when it doesnt do something you tell them to do?

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# Displined PokemonGuest 2006-04-24 13:53
Now that's a revolution.



#8 tell me honestly how many times you played PC games where you go mad trying to download the latest drivers and then when u get it running it slows down horribly and u read on some remote forumn that this happens on some system setups. This is why PCs never took the place of your console.



BTW, have you seen the PS3 stats? Do you even know what GFLOPS are? Do you by any chance know what an architecture for parallel processing can do for rendering? you obviously dont since your comment clearly points it out. Just think about it for a sec "why does xbox have 3 core and PS3 8 CPUs?"



Wikipedia is your best friend!

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# revolution will own all! :)Guest 2006-04-24 13:55
pokemon is aswome! if it wasn't, why do u think that it is still alive today to celebrate its 10 year Anniversary? besides hav u ever actually tried to beat an entire game of pokemon? [yes, i mean getting all pokemon to lv. 100] its not so easy.



and i hav no idea why anyone would actually buy a PS3 for the graphics. if i wanted to watch something just as graphic, i would rather watch a p*rn* movie with an HD tv. now whcih one would i want, good graphics or unique game play?

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# Wikipedia?Guest 2006-04-24 14:01
sorry to say Wikipedia aint ur best friend. anyone can go in there and change w/e they want. in other words nor reliable. [ but QJ.net is]

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# HmmGuest 2006-04-24 15:49
Imagine sony said it all their games will be built around the eye toy. People would laugh histerically in disbelief yet Nintendo does it and its a revolution.



hmm I wonder.



BTW wikipedia is free, fast, available everywhere, updated on the fly and according to many research companies only a tad less reliable than most encyclopedias. So yes I would also consider it one of my best friends along with google, and Qj blogs =)

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# @10Guest 2006-04-24 17:29
lmfao! oh wow. that's my dream game.

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# just a bit of factGuest 2006-04-25 04:10
its funny peeps trash nintendo yet gaming and controllers are all owed to nintendo and they are no 1 profiter in gaming yr in yr ut for past 20 yrs sony and microsoft are operating at wopping losses if revo did gain no 1 spot we are talking out of this world profits as in billions clear each yr just from games revolution is the only TRUE next gen console as far as im conserned revmote will turn gaming on its head ps3 next gen graphics but a 3 to 4 generation controller WOT UTTER NONCENCE NOT HARD TO SEE IS IT and as for graphics all 3 will shine graphics war is over nintendos intergrated fine design approtch and new cooler image will see them dominate profits and stay clear no1 in handhelds and no 1 or 2 in consoles and no1 in profits as they allready are

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# What's worse?Guest 2006-04-25 06:15
Companies using graphics and sound as a gimmick(sony, M$) or a company using a homoerotic controller as a gimmick(nintend o).. i agree about the eye toy.. i thought it was great and nintendo just ripped off the concept and decided" Hey maybe people will buy our games because our controller is so ridiculously stupid that people will have to think it's a good idea!" Just wait and see people.. let all the companies play their hands before we decide the winner.

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# 17Guest 2006-04-25 07:19
to 17, good idea, but in the mean time.. let's go by some hands on reviews we've seen so far



IMPRESSIONS: A great demonstration of how intuitive the controller can be-pointing it to aim felt perfectly natural, right from the very first second, just like with a light gun. It always shot exactly where it felt like I was aiming, and was incredibly responsive to even slight wrist movements-I barely had to move my hand at all.



IMPRESSIONS: Another demo that needed no explanation, you just "got" it immediately-move the controller in whatever direction you want the stick to go. As a 2D game that requires exact movement (the caves get really narrow in parts), this one reinforced how precise and steady the controller's movement detection can be. Another interesting tidbit-if your controller fell outside the detection "box," the demo had an arrow pointing off the edge of the screen in that direction so you could get it back in the correct space.



IMPRESSIONS: This was oddly fun-you could try to move the ball by either making a hill next to it and pushing it along, or making an indentation for it to fall into, then using it to drag it across the court. When you got close to the basket, turning an indentation under the ball into a hill suddenly would fling it up into the air.



IMPRESSIONS: At first, I was standing up and swinging my hand all around to aim - and my arms got really tired really quick. But once I sat down and relaxed, resting my hands on my legs as I would with a normal controller, everything clicked. It wasn't perfect yet - the Revolution controller functionality had just been added recently and wasn't bug tested or polished, so every so often the view would "spaz out" for a couple seconds - but it was enough to get me excited. As odd as it may look holding the two separate controller pieces, one in each hand, looking around felt incredibly natural, even more than my preferred PC-style keyboard-and-mouse setup. I have to wonder about precision and speed in multiplayer games, but for a more deliberate single-player game like Metroid Prime - and the series is already confirmed for an appearance on the Revolution - this setup already has huge potential.





now why don't you wait before classifying something as homoerotic :P also it's not a ripoff of the eyetoy... they've even had this idea concepted as an addon for GC.. which goes back to the concepts for n64dd games



if sony made eyetoy something other than an addon maybe it'd get something other than crappy minigames, and it could actually be decent maybe

or maybe you've come to expect nothing but multimedia convergance from a sony console, maybe some people want a different way to interact and be immersed into games which allows for better precesion and genres/concepts that arent possible on consoles (think flight games, rts stuff)



you sony fanboys are so disrespectful towards somebody just doing something different and affordable... i own playstations aswell and im not a nintendo fanboy but you guys sound like idiots claiming that its an eyetoy ripoff

you wanna see a ripoff



http://www.cnet.com/4831-11405-6412914.html

enjoy ps2/3 games with your trackball nunchuck that doesnt sense 3d movement

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# alsoGuest 2006-04-25 07:20
one more link for people who laugh about eyetoy stuff, heres your real ripoff

http://blogs.ign.com/uchiha5/2006/04/13/11678/

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# @16 Get your facts straightGuest 2006-04-25 07:31
Sony has never lost money in their gaming products and services, this is what revived the company after losing much of their other markets to competitors. In the console business no one in history has made more money than Sony(they just started in handhelds). Nintendo is profitable due to its handheld monopoly and that's about it. In consoles, It lost considerable amount of market share (I am sure money as well) and to its shame even lost to the newcomers Microsoft. Sure Microsoft lost tons of money but that's because they were giving away very advance technology at the time (the current REV spec) for practically nothing, and you know what they see it as a victory being that they are the number 2 console in the world.



I am tired of seeing all these DS vs. PSP comparisons. PSP if anything opened up the market. Tons of people who wouldn't ever buy a gameboy went out and bought this sexy piece of hardware. The DS is great. Nintendo knows what their doing and they have great advantages being time in market and price advantage. However, I am afraid that they are again losing considerable market share to sony in the US and EUR. You might not have realize that sony has already caught up in the western world (DS had a lead due to time in market but psp is now tied) but I you know what for the past 5 years in the west, cool and sexy is in, dork carrying a stencil is out.

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# yikescomedy 2006-04-25 07:49
ok, so what we can gleen from this argument is that opinion is decidely split.



looking at 'specs' for the various machines xbxo and rev are similar, but lets face it the xbox was really quite powerful, it just never had enough good games for people to really appreciate that.



ps2 was the weakling of the group in terms of sheer power but have you played mgs3 or shadow of the colossus? now those games are great looking, lets face it.





how much do you find yourself playing tetris on your original gameboy these days? now, that's one of the most pure gameplay experiences, but it looks downright crap nowadays.

why aren't people still buying ps1? there are a whole host of enjoyable games on that... my point is that despite your protestations the graphics/physics/sound aspects of a game are very important.





yes the controller can change things, ds has 'proved' that. but actually if psp had some good games then it might be a different story, also ds is a lot more powerful than gba, so it has got better graphics etc than one of it's main competitors.



i'm quite interested in rev. but i also am apprehensive that while the 'revmote' may introduce all sorts of new gaming ways, it will most likely shut out a bunch of very lucrative and popular gaming types. what kind of rpgs will be released on such a device? they're all about story telling, massive set pieces and engrossing situations etc, this is best done with hyperrealistic graphics etc.



it looks to me that rev. will have a hard time staying popular as it will have to justify that controller, whereas we all know what to expect from ps3/360.

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# one more thingcomedy 2006-04-25 07:51
how in god's name are they going to make mariokart on rev?



i don't like the look of those lame little nes style buttons on the revmote.

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# Hold onGuest 2006-04-25 08:02
First, Wikipedia is as reliable as you are. You should take information from there the same as you take it from any source. If you want to take it at face value and do no more research that is your own fault.



Second. Stop saying things like Resident Evil 4 is the best looking game of that generation as a basis for your argument. The basis of the argument is an opinion for one, and you can't just take the "best looking" game and ignore the fact that the bulk of Gamecube games don't look as good.



Third, I know everyone is excited and whatever, but E3 is just around the corner and we are hardly a smudge of the wiser as 6-8 months ago.. as to what to expect. So, relax.. Kick back.. And enjoy it.

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# okGuest 2006-04-25 09:25
sony also has been workin on a wand that works with the eye toy they filed the patent at the end of 2002. i saw this at gamespot. but sony never released it till now, gamespot had an article were sony is going to bundle the wand with the ps2 to compete wit the rev.

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# revssj3fox 2006-04-25 13:14
How can the Rev not have enough power for RPGs when the PS2 still has the best RPGs? It can't take that much more power! Also There is a video that shows a great way to play Mario Kart on Rev...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3458816462841405753&q=Revolution+Controller&pl=true



I had some worries about the DS but I was proven wrong and we only have half what Japan has as of games...

I feel the Rev has the potential be great and would not have to try had to do it...

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# good videoShadow714 2006-04-25 13:30
Thanks ssj3fox

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