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PS3: the bottomless well and the urge to not flame

Posted Dec 19, 2006 at 2:48AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Wii, PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Electronic Arts, MTV, Phil Harrison, SIXAXIS, Sony
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HarrisonI've been reading through the news, and I came across this yet another amazing bit of info about the PS3 from the ever-lovable Phil Harrison. MTV reports this amusing bit:

And what did he make of recent reports that Electronic Arts claimed their launch titles for PS3 only used 20 percent of the system? He said "Gran Turismo 2" maxed out the first PlayStation, and that "God of War II," coming in March 2007, will "be about as good as it gets" on PS2. But for PS3, the system's capabilities will keep changing as its firmware gets constantly updated via the Internet, and developers will continue to learn new ways to best use the machine's multiple processors and SIXAXIS controller. Sony's games on PS3 right now use "less than half" of the PS3, he said. "Nobody will ever use 100 percent of its capability."


Yeah, Ryan A. reported on this before, and he has very fair take Harrison's words. The thing is, while I do understand that Harrison was trying to say that the PS3 can do so much more than it already is doing at the moment, and that the CELL is like a bottomless well, choice of words just struck me as wrong. Lets get the line "Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability" and then let's run it through several bad fan-boy translations:

Line: "Nobody will ever use 100% of PS3's capability."
Fan-boy Translations collected from all over the intertubes (because the internet is made of tubes):
"Our developer kits suck ass."
"Developers are too stupid to program for the PS3."
"You will never, in a long time, see a real PS3 game."
"We don't know how to work this thing, and no one else will"
"we give you a six cylinder car, but we promise you that nobody will ever be able to figure out how to run it with all six cylinders."
"I'm selling you this package for $600, but you'll never ever be able to utilize everything in this package."
"You can use 100% of the PS2 but you're PS3 will never be worth it"


There's more, but you guys could probably come up with better stuff. I know, I know, I'm just being a tad too harsh here. We know that he didn't really mean anything negative by what he said, but the words he used are just open to so many negative interpretations.

He also said that thinking that games are about fun is a challenge to be overcome and that games should deal with other themes like fear, uncertainty, and whatever mature, artsy thing you want to extend his list with. Yeah, I know, He meant that games are fun, and that games should also be more than just fun - he just didn't say it that way.

The sad part about this is that as an exec, it's Harrison's job to make the company look good. Sigh. As the bumper stickers say, "shit happens."

Mmrph...While I am putting Mr Harrison under a spotlight at the moment, I'm not trying to bash just him, or Sony's PR practices. I'm just using him as an example because he's, er... recent. And you guys like recent, right? Phil isn't alone. So many other execs from so many other companies say things that make your brain do back-flips.

I'm trying to point out that we like the PR boo-boos. Yeah we do. Admit it, the fan-boy translations above made you at least chuckle. We like PR faux-pas and we're hoping they say something "dumb" again so we can attack their statement like starved wolves. It's entertainment. And we like it. I like it.

This is what keeps me surfing through gaming news. So many people in authority keep saying things they probably shouldn't have, and many more say things they probably don't mean. The entertainment just doesn't end with the quotes either. The damage control that follows is even more hilarious.



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# Your motherGuest 2006-12-19 04:00
Right, just like your mother Phil Harrison.



Up yours too while we're at it.










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# So it's come to this...Guest 2006-12-19 04:08
The writers have turned into PS3 haters as well. I don't see why everyone wants 360 to win this round. If 360 wins our (gamers) future will will include crappy hardware and add-ons out the a$$. Not to mention an increase in XBL fees.

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# Pathetic, it wouldn't matter either wayGuest 2006-12-19 04:22
No matter what he would have said, fanboys would have turned it into something negative.They have been doing for a long time.



Example - All PS3 games are region free!



Fanboys - I hate sony, they're forcing dvelopers to make region free games, and PS2 games aren't region free on PS3. Cry ***** moan...



That's all they do. Harrsion should just say it how he wants, he's not gonna convert anyone by mincing words.

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# Blah?Guest 2006-12-19 04:31
Why doe's everyone hate on the 360 when the ps3 has a bad day?



Oh sorry fanboy, didnt see you there ¬_¬ .

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# Blah Blah Blah Blah BlahGuest 2006-12-19 04:31
This article proves that anyone can spin anything.



It also proves that the PS3 owners (and hopeful owners) are chomping at the bit for any kind of PS3 news.

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# ?????Guest 2006-12-19 04:34
what in the goddamn hell is this doing on the 360 section TAKE IT TO THE PLAYSTATION 3 SECTION !!!

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# What I wanna know isGuest 2006-12-19 04:34
What the hell is this article doing in the wii section?

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# LOLGuest 2006-12-19 05:42
I remember writers, reviewers, and fan boys used to do the same thing with the Super Nintendo and Genesis, how the SNES was a piece of crap and Sega stomped it into the ground, guess what SNES beat the crap out of that little black box, same thing will happen with the PS3, Sony will domoinate again.

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# hmmGuest 2006-12-19 05:43
what he probobly means is the ps2 was sorta ok to program on, so u could get 100% out of it.



but with the ps3 u can ether have loads of things happening, with crappy gfx, or pretty gfx with *****ty boring simple game.



its a win loose ether way! never 100%

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# ROFLMAO!!Guest 2006-12-19 05:44
Qj must be having a bad week, posting files that destroy PSPs. Making size comparisons which have nothing to do with the subject matter. And posting PS3 (hate) articles in every section....



Nice 1 QJ! I blame the moons gravitational pull on the brains of news writers the world over... :-D

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# obviously....Guest 2006-12-19 05:49
aint it obvious that its the moon that makes everything happen.......



RKAKAKAKAKAKAKA KAKAKAAKAKA



touch my nipples please.....

ugh yeah thats the *****.....





.........the moon made me do it........

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# "The urge to not flame"?!Guest 2006-12-19 06:00
All he's saying is that with firmware upgrades you're constantly adding functionality/features, therefore you can never say you've seen all the machine can do.



Oh, BTW, "the urge not to flame" would've been better grammar...

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# ExactlyGuest 2006-12-19 06:11
Exactly right!

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# Dont you mean...Guest 2006-12-19 06:14
Don't you mean Nintendo will domoinate again? According to your logic Sony is Genesis which I agree 100%. Soul-less company.

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# In otherwords...Guest 2006-12-19 06:39
Waaahhhhhh! Waaahhhhh! *Sob*

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# .......Guest 2006-12-19 06:41
I think by that he meant that the potiental is endless for the console, therefore you will never be able to use 100% of it's capabilities, but whatever. ;d.

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# are you a cheapskate?Guest 2006-12-19 06:50
XBL will not increase in price, that is ridiculous.



You can get Xbox Live for $3.33/mo very easiler. Don't tell me that that isn't worth it.

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# .Guest 2006-12-19 06:59
He must have a reason for saying PS3 can never reach it's potential. I'd like to hear that directly from Phil. Here's some options:

1. The PS3 will be abandoned when the PS4 or galaxy or whatever is introduced before it reaches it's potential.

2. The cell is difficult to program for and using the 7 processing units for something useful takes a long time to learn to do

3. Developers will not invest enough time or money to use its potential, instead looking for quick profit

4. Security restrictions prevent great homebrew from being developed

5. Disappointing console sales will lower developers' interest in making expensive games

6. Crappy typical $ony development kits are preventing advanced games from being developed easily

So which one is it Phil?

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# Comment made no senseGuest 2006-12-19 07:22
1. If you cant max it, Why do i pay 100% for a uncomplete system later on....



2.If you can't max it, There is no need for a PS4.....



3. Sony, Themselves who made the system! The people who know what they put in it, dnt know how to use it to its full potential.....



WTH?!?!?!

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# attack of the xbotSpector 2006-12-19 07:23
Let's go down your list...



1- you mean just like xbox and what Sony isn't doing to the PS2?

2-the team on FFXIII has already been saying they figured a great way to utilize all the available cell processors

3- uhh once again FFXIII

4- you can run linux on it, secruity restrictions are at a minimum and you also got region free games.

5- Pfft you wanna go make up some of your projected sales numbers based of your own made up consumer reports?

6- Tell me when you have one of these dev kits and know enough about programming is understand it.



Maybe you could ask ol' Billy Gates something for me... with everything you've stolen from others, and all the pain you've caused releasing poor versions of OSs in your lifetime do you actually have the ability to sleep at night?

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# hmmmGuest 2006-12-19 07:32
no one will ever use 100% of the ps3......so how come they plan to release a PS4 some time after 2010??

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# UhmGuest 2006-12-19 07:32
XBL for 1 year + 5 hours of pan handling in downtown Seattle, depending on how good you are.

F'ing Cheapskate.

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# all of the aboveGuest 2006-12-19 07:41
It's all of the above, well except for #1, regardless of when the ps4 comes out ps3 will not reach it's potential except on possible a choice few games, only time will tell.

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# All publicity is good...Guest 2006-12-19 07:50
Every time Phill says something the story gets overwhelmed with 360 fanboys. This story will have at least 60 posts by this time tomorrow.



I'm going to do the opposite. My plan is to hang out at M$'s website all day until Bill Gates says anything. The second step is to use whatever he said and compare it to the PS3 and mention how PS3 is better. He may say something about the Zune but hey PS3 is better! Take that Bill Gates, since I flamed him people will be convinced to buy Sony products - The mind of an Xbot.

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# .Guest 2006-12-19 07:54
nobody will use the %100 because its a special add-on offered by $ony for an additional 599 US DOLLARS.

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# ..Guest 2006-12-19 08:11
already is there ya know...

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# @NightShade15 over thereGuest 2006-12-19 08:43
" XBL for 1 year + 5 hours of pan handling in downtown Seattle, depending on how good you are.

F'ing Cheapskate"

Cheapskate? CHEAPSKATE?!

Are you not one of the players who complained of PS3's high price? You would be the cheapskate in that case. Please think and dont jump to conclusions and call each other names. It makes you look like a retarded animal baby

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# ...Guest 2006-12-19 09:12
Interesting points, but I have my own take of the PR statement by Phil. I think what he means is PS3 game developers can never use 100% of the PS3's potential because the PS3 is, in the estimation of Sony, a LIMITLESS platform. Sony has always said that the technology and power is so good that few (if any) games will burn up all of the PS3 resources - and even when the developers have a game that comes close to using up 100% of the system resources, Sony will have new FW updates and features and whatever else in mind for the PS3.

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# Yeah, I am replying to myself, but I need to add something...Guest 2006-12-19 09:20
Just also wanted to point out that the PR statement by Phil is something that ANY president can say about his company console. They all claim that their console has amazing potential, and they all challenge game developers to try to use up 100% of that potential. :) And most of us agree: hey, each console has good stuff going for it and we are just glad that each console will take game developers in many directions and offer different (and so-called UNLIMITED) avenues for gaming.

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# I am a search and destroy xbotGuest 2006-12-19 09:44
1. Microsoft was losing money selling the XBOX for $130. PS2 is much cheaper with no hard drive and slower processor so $ony is still turning a profit. $ony is still making a bundle off it and needs the PS2 to cover losses from the PS3. Developers will decide if there's enough demand to continue making games. The PS2 sold what like 70 million? Games will still be made for a while. There's no way in hell the PS3 will sell half that number ever. 2 How does an RPG fully utilize a next gen processor? Even newer FF games offer nothing new just better graphics. If they announced FFXIII only used half of the PS3's power would people still be waiting for it? A lot of hype created and only a few videos of CG characters to back it up. If develpers truly have figured out how to use all the SPEs, games won't improve much for the next 5 years. PS2 took what 6 years to max out it's potential? 4 Linux on the PS3 has NO access to the GPU. It isn't really a computer as there are many things it simply cannot do. Region free games aren't useful unless you regularly import games and know Japanese. 5 I wouldn't be very optimistic about high sales numbers of the PS3 because it's double the price of the PS2 when it launched and came out a year late this time, which hurt the original XBOX. Demand and prices keep going down. The PSP when launched was selling for $600-700 at first then when easily available sales took a nose dive. The high PS3 pricing will not be cut for at least 3 years as that's how long it took the PS2's price to drop. 6 Developers are always complaining about Playstation development tools because they have nothing in common with other systems or the PC and require new knowledge which takes time to learn.

Also with Bill Gates if you've ever seen the movie Pirates of Silicone Valley, you'd know the only thing MS ever "stole" was the GUI technology that Apple bought from Xerox which all computers are based on now. Somebody would have "stolen" it eventually so why does it matter? Jesus that was 20 years ago get over it. Computer operating systems must work with many different hardware configurations and sh*t like that isn't easy. The newer Windows operating systems are excellent and just as good as Apple's. I'm looking forward to Vista myself.

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