Lets go Nintendo all the way to the top

I also agree that Wii isn't a real console, it's more like a kiddie-console. It's not like someone is going to buy a Wii -instead- of a 360 or Ps3, they're more likely to buy a Wii for their kids and 360/Ps3 for themselves.

and yet i still have yet to find a fun game.. its fun for about 10 min then i go back to my ps3.



there is no "long lasting" or valuable game that i have found that i would play over and over again. and very little onlin play.



stick to your 360's and ps3's.

Almost as narrow as your point of view.

but somehow, they are selling gazillions of consoles because...



parents are more willing to buy some $249.99 or however much it costs console over a hardcore console. Sure, Wii might win in sales this time, but hardcore gamers on the Wii almost don't exist. There are VERY few games that appeal to me on that system. It's great for casual guys, like marketed, but otherwise...no.

Seriously, this one is a no brainer, as much as I personally am not a Wii fan, you have to be pretty thick headed not to believe that Nintendo will win the console race. While I do not prefer the Wii as my console of choice, I do see it's genius, especially as far as marketing and bringing new people into gaming. I do believe the Wii has a hardcore audience but I also believe the definition of hardcore in gaming is a bit confused, some see hardcore as games that are mature, blood, guts, whatever. Others see hardcore as gaming for the enthusiast, people who enjoy good games. While Mario and Zelda may not fit the bill for being particularly mature games they are absolutely games for the enthusiast. I haven't really been into Mario and Zelda much since the SNES days, but I do understand their appeal. Fact of the matter is Nintendo has a much broader appeal to the consumer these days, which there is nothing wrong with. Nintendo took a gamble by doing something different, yet staying the same in many ways, but it paid off. More power to Nintendo.

"Why are there so many people on this site that hate Nintendo and the Wii? Is it because it's outselling their consoles to an obscene amount?"



BINGO!!!!



Just a bunch of kids acting out because their parents never learned to smack them when they deserved it.



According to the kids commenting here, in order for the Wii to be a real console it has to appeal to only hardcore gamers. That's not only narrow minded, it's outright ignorant. As Nintendo has proven in this generation, casual gamers out number hardcore gamers BIG TIME!!!!! In fact many hardcore gamers are ALSO casual gamers. Hardcore gamers are the minority. Which is why the PS3 isn't doing quit as good as one would think. Bluray is keeping it above water right now.



Based on pure logic along, that would make the PS3 and 360 FAKE consoles.



So far, Sony has not addressed this and that is a MAJOR mistake on their part. That's going to bite them in the ass harder then anything else in the past. Microsoft 100% agrees with Nintendo and they are fixing their mistake as we type. MS is taking the 360 console and throwing it into the casual gamer arena. Kudos for them! They have the ability to cater to BOTH hardcore and casual gamers. HOWEVER, can they pull it off? It's going to take more then adding "parties" support and Uno to their lineup.

"Sooo hardcore, he's in 3/4 of first party games! He doesn't even need a personality since he's sooo badass!"



Yet another baseless argument, Mario was forged in a time where gamers only cared about gameplay, hence he lacks what you consider a storyline.



"Seriously, Nintendo only makes games for kids, homosexuals, and old people."



Blind fanboyism at it's finest.



"Yes, Nintendo's E3 was their worst yet."



Not sure about worst yet since I've only seen their past 5 conferences rather than all of their E3 appearances, but I think we can all agree it was pretty weak.



"But then again, Wii systems have been proven sellers, despite a HORRIBLE upcoming game lineup (even by Nintendo standards.) What's more, the online SUCKS with no voice chat, severe lag, unnecessary friend codes, and horrible games on Wiiware as well. Nintendo is more focused on selling you more crap accessories than games."



All systems go through a drought at some point during each year, it's been that way for ages, and since it's Summer, the chance of a poor line-up are even greater. Also, voice chat was shown at this years E3, so that statement is void. Nintendo is still new to the online game, tell me other developers didn't have trouble with the internet at first. WiiWare is meant for small developers (who probably have little experience) so of course there's going to be a lot of bad games.



"At this rate, Nintendo doesn't need to do ANYTHING with the Wii, and it still sells! Go figure!"



Good marketing, 'nuff said.



"Think the new Mario and Zelda games will be good? You can expect the same games as the last ones with 1 (possibly 2) improvements. For mario, he will probably get a new move, new levels, and be collecting stars AGAIN."



It's a PLATFORMING GAME, what the hell does that mean? Collecting and jumping, it seems to me you just don't like platforming in general, leading to your dislike of Mario games. As for Zelda, Twilight Princess gave several new elements to gameplay, introducing new characters as well.



"Zelda may be slightly better. Yeah, the only first party game with something resembling a story! But the game will likely come late in the Wii's life cycle and come out for Nintendo's new ripoff last gen system first (just like last time.)"



Story? Story.....where did I see that before....Oh yeah, Metroid! Who did Nintendo rip-off? As I recall Microsoft just announced they'll be adding "avatars" to their new dashboard design....hmmm...



"Since Nintendo hates system development costs, they will recycle the Wii hardware and the big innovation will be an improved Wii mote that is touch sensitive or some crap."



So you'd rather stay put with your buttons and triggers just the way they are, instead of moving forward in technology? Seems a little boring to me...

its a crappy console only to be use for parties and such but it is winning in sales. im a sony person myself but i do own all 3 and you can talk about how the wii has a crap games line up and that its just a fad but its a fad that every man and his dog buys. the wii is moving alot of consoles no matter what games are coming out for it (which is basicaly none mariokart and brawl are about the best). nintendo diddnt go for the hardcore gamer approach and it worked as much to my annoyance.

In terms of hardware and games though, the Wii isn't even on the map. More good games come out for the DS and PSP then the Wii. I do have a Wii, I own Twilight Princess, Brawl, Guitar Hero (didn't want it for my PS3), Wii Sports, Super Mario Strikers Charged, and Elebits. And the only game I think I'll be getting in the future is Dead Rising. I own a PS3 as my other next gen console, and I find myself playing it twice as often. I'd rather play Grand Theft Auto or Metal Gear Solid over Brawl any day. I'm not saying the Wii is bad, I'm just saying that the other consoles offer a much more enjoyable gaming experience.

Thanks bud!



It also helps to have a MS insider under my wing :) He agrees with me as well. He asked our group what we thought about the E3 press release and I basically told him the same thing. He admitted the direction MS was moving was a direct reaction to Nintendo.



...I also told him the new red controller looked like ass..... I got no response from that one :)

Hah, you know, I saw the controller and normally it would look horrible, but I have Japane serising sun decals on my consoles (including 360), so it might've actually worked for me! XD

Well, there ya go! To each his own :)

i have a wii and while the current games linup is rubbish for the 25+ years hardcore gamer like myself. i've enjoyed every minute of it except moh2 being the only half decsent fps. multiplayer. and no social meeting place or voip. it is a strong console because my mom who is now 50+ hadn't touched anything more technical than a dvd player since atari 2600 was king, she had a game on wii sports and left banging on about how good it was. she want's to come round and play the wii again. bear in mind my mom is a technophobe she's someone that thinks a computer is a toy even when her son has a 6pc firewire networked recording studio and external hardware and has an interest in c++/c# games programming and is far from being used as a toy. i doubt she would buy wii but with the internet channel she could be convinced to accept one as a gift and maybe even go online too.

Well, Nintendo know that if they want to sell a game all they have to do is put Mario in the title.

How come every one of your posts is totally unintelligent? What right do you have to call me, and other Wii owners "stupid people" when you are the one that repeatedly discredits yourself with utterly ridiculous comments? You claim that Nintendo only makes games for homosexuals, girls and old people. Surely that is enough for everyone on this site to recognise YOU as the idiot? Have you not realised by now that every time you comment, you are caught out for your lies and such? Just get a grip. I've said it before and I'll say it again: THINK BEFORE YOU POST.



Oh, and you're an *rsehole.

Nintendo has already put out plenty of awesome games.



As usual youa re just talking about your rear end.



If you intended to ask when Nintnedo will release games YOU will like then the answer is most likely never. Also, no one cares.

There's nothing wrong with wireless controllers, because they tend to use bluetooth, which is just a radio frequency.



Mobile phones are also not dangerous, because whenever one is produced, it gets examined by an authority (I forget the name), and they give it a decimal number rating. It has to be below a certain level in order to be cleared for mass production and sale.



I hope this gives you peace of mind! Check online too on various sites for more info on the subject.

I lol'd.

Unfortunately whether you want to use it or not, you are being bombarded by these waves anyway. So what does it matter? Just driving down your street makes you susceptible to cell phones, Wifi and the like...

The Wii is not a hardcore unit. So that only further proves how much of an idiot you are.



Also, adding ILLEGAL rom usage to the Wii does not give it value. Adding ORIGINAL homebrew does.



As for Gamecube 2? Oh please!!!! Don't even get me started on the Xbox v1.5.



Your ignorance shows no limits.

ha ha Xbox 1.5, but seriously its not that bad maybe 1.80.

You know, there was a PS2.5. They called it 'PSX'. It it a PS2 with expanded media abilities, XMB, and a new shape.

Its on wikipedia, I would have bought one if it wasn't Japanese release only.

WRONG! The PSP had only a few swamped stores. Other then that most people walked right in and picked one up. Same with the NDSL.



Just face it, you base your ignorant opinions on BS. People OF ALL AGES love the Wii. THAT IS FACT.



The casual gamer far outnumbers the hardcore gamer. THAT IS FACT.



Casual does not equal "kiddie".