PC industry leaders fight back: "The days of the console are numbered" |
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Business and consumer computer solutions provider Hewlett-Packard, graphics industry contender NVIDIA, Microsoft's PC advocate Games for Windows initiative and even broadband game publisher Trion World Network released a whoosh of hostile air against the next-gen consoles. They were probably outraged as many other hardcore PC fans were at the 2007 Game Developers Conference's "PC Gaming in an Age of Connected Consoles" panel discussion. Instead, the PC industry leaders formed their own panel, bringing in Microsoft's Games for Windows initiative's boss Rich Wickham and Trion World Network's founder Lars Butler, among other representatives of leading PC industry entities.
Lars was also quick to comment, "I believe the days of the console are numbered. There is one more generation of gaming consoles and that is it."
Backing Butler, NVIDIA's VP Roy Taylor upped the PC's ante by stating, "Our advantage as developers is we know what is coming. And what is coming is far ahead of the console. You will see a huge difference between what you can get on a PC and a console."
In line with this, Hewlett-Packard plans to enter the hardcore gaming market by rolling out a new line of gaming-related hardware, possibly even hobbyist PCs, within the year. It's even claimed that they plan to even provide a curved computer monitor for not only widescreen effect, but for full FPS immersion.
Whether or not the PC industry giants can deliver, we cannot tell, but with PC enthusiasts who know exactly how to make full use of their PC's power and console piracy looming over the horizon, consoles may never be able to say "the PC is dead" ever again.
Via CVG
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now that ps3 can run linux it seems that the line between PCs and consoles may be getting blurrier.
Hmmm...MICROSOFT Games for Windows...a bit bias there isn't it? Especially, when they are tying most of the next generation PC games with their console and vice versa. I guess when they say console, they are excluding the 360 and it just points towards PS3 and Wii. They have to cover the bases, I guess.
One for the console, and one for the PC. They have a market to rob...err...care for in each, anyway.
There is a reason why PS3s are 1/6 as expensive as the average uber gamer PC. Running Linux on the PSP and DOS on the X-Box is fun and all, but you're not exactly going to bring it out next time you need to compile an application, re-encode a DVD, etc. and you'll want a real processor for that.
Why should games only be for Windows? I and hopefully the world outside of Microsoft-loving America will NOT fall for this nonsense.
Console = games
PC = work
It will never change.
Lars was also quick to comment, "I believe the days of the console are numbered
Oh wait, we have had consoles for 2 decades !?
and console are selling millions of times + all the games
Making such a comment is total bull*****
a pc developer cant use all the power of a computer and people download the games by P2P. There's a lot of piracy. And in a console you dont read System requirements, set video/audio option and install the game. You simply insert the DVD or BD
next, or next-next gen console will probably do everything a PC does anyways, and just become standardized hardware PC's...
...the price.
If you want a high-end PC for playing high-end games you have to pay way more than 600€ (when taking the PS3).
If we speak just about the next-gen graphic cards, you pay as much for the card as you pay for a whole console.
And then there's also the simplicity of consoles: game in, start, play. It's as easy as that.
It depends on what you want. If you want all in one, maybe the PC is the better choice (...even though you can't play console-exclusive games...), but take into consideration that you'll have to pay a lot more money...
"Console + games
PC + work"
PC + Work + Play
Ever since the first 8-bit micro computers made their way into people's homes in the 80s, computers at home have been used for games. The fact is, as long as people have computers, they will want to play games on them.
The PC is exactly the same, which is why all the predictions over the last 15 years or so of consoles killing PC gaming have been wrong (with each generation of console gamers saying 'Oh but this time it's different'). ;)
not everyone can afford or want to dish out hundreds every couple of months just to run a new game smoothly and decently...
hardware whoring is pc gaming's bigger problem...
if pc gaming isn't slowing down, explain why games like rainbow six vegas is more adapted to the controller than the keyboard and mouse( ubisoft obviously developed it with more consideration for consoles than pc)
There is one thing that will keep PC gaming from being as big as it once was, when there was no online console gaming: The fact that there is a large population of gamers that either don't want to keep upgrading PC's, or don't have the knowledge to, in order to keep up with the latest PC titles.
There is no debate that PC titles will continue to look (and play) better and better. The problem is that there are a hell of a lot of gamers out there that are so used to popping in a disc and playing without having to worry about checking system specs.
I know I basically stopped PC gaming when the PS2 came out, and stopped altogether when the 360 came out. No matter how much I might like the mouse/kb combo for FPS games, and no matter how much I might love the next PC title (Crysis, for example), it's not enough to convince me to start pricing out upgrades to my rig in order to be able to actually play the game.
HEY DATS MY MOUSE!!!
When every new console comes out, PC gaming is 'Dead'.
Fact is, that PC gaming will exist as PC's exist.
Console gaming will exist as long as PC gaming exists.
Every hardware innovation, or nearly every software innovation has come from PC.
Wii-mote - Bah thats mid 90's stuff.
Six Axis - Wooaa so 1991.
'3D' Glasses - lol 97'.
Hell online gaming - early 90's anyone?
I really love paying about $1000 per game, having to upgrade after every 2 PC game releases because my hardware is too old 6 months after I buy it. They don't even bother with detail settings on the games now. Rainbow Six with all the sliders turned down still gets 2-4 fps on a Nvidia 6800 from 2 years ago. I can forget about Crysis or BioShock.
It's hard to understand how they've survived this long.
directx 10 is microsoft's big rip-off system. they're probably charging the graphics card manufacturers a shed load just to make the cards for it. vista is a total rip-off, those dx10 cards are stupidly expensive, to get a good pc costs a fortune and then you have to use windows vista... waht a rip.
oh, also if there were a proper optimised encoding software or soemthing like that on ydl then the cell processor would outstrip most (if not all) current intel cpu's.
lol, developers have an advantage in that they know 'what's coming' - they know exactly how good everyone's console is.
yeah i play the odd pc game, cnc3 is pretty good fun, but i much prefer consoles.
cell and rsx plus blue ray=Game OVeR Pc
What makes it so cool for the pc side is its "totally customizable"inside and out...now If I can get a fast pc with the same or better tech than current consoles for under 500...well have a winner.
Shouldn't we be the one's to say when the console days are ending?
Except for the fact that a gaming PC cost 10 times a console, and then you still have to jack around with it, meaning casual gamers will NEVER, EVER touch it. Probably will forget it exists.
sounds to me like your processor is a heap of sh*t
ive had a 6800GT 256MB card for a while
on a 3.4GHz HT P4
no probs for a long time
you could say the same about the PC crowd HM.
The PC crowd says consoles will die next gen...no..wait...this is the last...no this time is definitely the last time.
they both are retarded...consoles aren't going away...PC is not going away.
Then maybe we will see PCs gain interest again - but spending $2000 on a PC won't let you play every game released for the next 6 years... but buying a brand new console will.
Come on - it's a joke. PCs aren't getting cheaper - MS is making Windows more expensive... the cost of running a PC is higher. And they are frustrating as hell in a completely monopolized market.
***** that!
lol One more generation? This is just the beginning.
Well I guess they could win(sarcasm)
If the average gamer wants to/can spend $500+ for a video card and $200+ on a new processor, not to mention all the other things you need to put together a pc.
Oh yea, PC's have a real chance of winning
I think everyone here gets the picture except whoever came up with this post. People complain that the PS3 is so expensive yet imagine having to shell out that much every three months. I for one stay away from the PC market just because of that. While the games look great the price you pay to play them at decent speeds is ridiculous. Just look at Oblivion and how many people with pimped out PC's had to shell out the dough just to be able to play it. It's just plain stupid to say the days of the console are numbered, people ALWAYS want the better deal and that's something PC just doesn't offer.
Hewlett-Packard, why do you hate game consoles? WHY?!!! I have an HP Pavilion of yours and then you make comments like THESE on game systems? I loved you *sniff sniff* (lol wierd but ok)!!!! WHY HAVE YOU FORSAKEN ME????!!!!!! WHY!!!!!!
Curved computer monitor.... yeah that aint no advantage to PC you can get VGA Plugs for consoles too... nubs
"The PC crowd says consoles will die next gen..."
You will always find a few with such views, but there numbers are tiny compared to those who think the PC will die. Hence you will find numerous reports and articles over the years in magazines and on websites talking about the possible death of PC gaming, but how many have you ever read talking about the death of games consoles?
Thinking about it more, the 'PC crowd' has never held the view that the console will die next gen! You may get that comment from a harecore fanboy, but in general, this has never been the view. Afterall, there are no reasons for them to think this, since console gaming has ALWAYS grown faster than PC gaming.
The only time I've seen a question mark over console gaming was during the 16-bit to 32-bit transition in the early-mid 90s, but even then, that was from a sceptical media who knew little about games and assumed it was a passing fad.
The PC crowd tend to boast about technical superiorty, conceeding that whilst new consoles may outperform a PC in certain areas upon release, the PC soon catches up and over takes them.
The arguements console gamers give towards the death of PC gaming has been mostly about cost and features. They tend to think PC gaming is only around because it has features which consoles lack, and as consoles get those features, there's less need for games on PCs. So these arguements arose after the arrival of 3D on consoles, CD-ROM drives, hard disks, online gaming, powerful CPUs, Microsoft entering the market, PC-based GPUs etc.
In contrast, there's no compelling arguement PC gamers put forward to suggest that the NEXT gen of consoles will be the last, and therefore you really don't see such comments being made, except perhaps from a fanboy trying to provoke other gamers.
So I agree that neither consoles or PCs are going to go away, but I don't agree that many PC gamers think consoles will die next gen.
Digital screens now come in DVI. VGA is so two years ago.