Mr. Chuck E. Cheese likes Wii and 360, but disses PS3 |
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Regardless of whether you're a gamer or not, as long as you're American and weren't deprived of a happy childhood (hahaha), we're guessing you've probably heard of Mr. Nolan Bushnell.No? Oh c'mon! Mr. Chuck E. Cheese? Still doesn't ring a bell? Oh alright then, Nolan Bushnell is not only the founder of gaming icon Atari, he's also responsible for the wonder that is Chuck E. Cheese, the restaurant chain that first brought together kids, food, pizza, and video games.
Red Herring was able to score an interview with this video game and consumer electronics association hall of famer (he's a founder of more than twenty companies), where Bushnell talks about his new business venture that once again brings food and gaming together, the uWink.
In that particular interview, Bushnell was asked about his thoughts on current gaming systems, he IS (or WAS) a major player in the gaming industry after all.
Red Herring asked Bushnell which areas of the game industry he's following now, and we quote:"IÂ’m very curious and interested in the Nintendo Wii. I think it may expand the market beyond the hardcore [18- to 24-year old]. Xbox Live is interesting because it potentially becomes the platform for the living room."
Safe answer right? But wait, it gets better. When asked what he thought of Sony's PS3 strategy, Bushnell says:
I think Sony shot themselves in the footÂ… there is a high probability [they] will fail. The price point is probably unsustainable. For years and years Sony has been a very difficult company to deal with from a developer standpoint. They could get away with their arrogance and capriciousness because they had an installed base. They have also historically had horrible software tools. You compare that to the Xbox360 with really great authoring tools and additional revenue streams from Xbox Live... a first party developer would be an idiot to develop for Sony first and not the 360. People donÂ’t buy hardware, they buy software.
So, Red Herring then tried to rebutt his argument by saying, "But what about SonyÂ’s success with the PlayStation and PS2? They sold more than 100 million of each system." And Bushnell's answer? Sony's success with PS and PS2 was nothing brilliant and that they were merely able to hit the market right on spot because of perfect timing. Bushnell even calls Sony as "almost the accidental winner." Ouch very much for Sony!
As for his predictions about Sony's next-gen console? "It would not surprise me if a year from now theyÂ’ll be struggling to sell 1 million units. [Factoring in the PS3Â’s price], I think in the U.S. the number of early adopters you have is actually around 300,000."
Just another rich man who can afford an opinion? You decide. But it wouldn't be a surprise though if Sony luvvvers all over suddenly decide to boycott Chuck E.Cheese (and be deprived of a happy cheesy childhood. Awww...).
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why??? why dont they talk about how the DS is for kids, xbox360 overheats and freezes alot, wii has a homo controller. no they pick on ps3 well ***** u
Everyone disses the PS3 because it sucks. I have a 360 and I'm gonna have a wii. The PS3 is too expensive, has no good games coming out anytime soon. Gran Turismo and MGS games are not what I'd call good. I bought a PSP and sold it 2 months later. It was a waste of money due to no good games and sony trying to restrict homebrew games. My DS on the other hand has great games.
I really hope Sony Fails with the PS3. It would help Nintendo regain the #1 spot, which they deserve.
**** sony fanboys
This guy definately shows a lot of spite towards Sony this sounds less like a nice little opinion of his but rather bad blood between him and Sony.
Either Sony turned down something of his or whatever, but to dismiss PSX and PS2 completely, when even your big time xbox guys know it deserves some credit, shows that this man has something very personal in the matter.
I think all Sony fanboys should write this man a letter not to flame but just to notify him when PS3 hits 1million units sold easily. Just so he gets thousands of letters notfiying him that the company he hates is still going strong.
Is'nt this the guy who stole pong? What did he do for gaming besides py into affect cpoyright laws and force some old engineer into retirement? all of his ideas he stole and he is not a gamer with fresh ideas. He is however a capitolist who would steal Sony's ideas and then comment on how great it is.
You insecure loser. You can hate Sony as much as you want but they are still going to win. Micro$oft already said they are working on a new system. I could see why you would want a g@y wii, the 360 is just starting to get games after being out for a year. I have good news for you your freaking prick; you now have two games Halo and Gow. Sony is b3yond losers like you.
this guy is a moron. spector, you are right on this one. im sure sony dismissed one of his games or ideas because just like chuckie cheese he thought it was a good idea. chuckie cheese is for dirtbags, and hicks.
anyway, yeah sony sucks and the 360 is way better. is that why they sold more PS2's, (that have been out for what, 5 years?) than they did the 1 year old xbox360 this year.
sony is a huge company and people are loyal to their system. i know personally i was never a big fan of nintendo as a kid, the sega and genesis were aweseome and to me sony has went in that direction with there machines, idk nintendo just seems like a childs toy and the PS lineup seems like a full on experience.
Ok let me give you a genre by genre breakdown of games PS3 will have that will be amazing...
Action Adventure - Devil May Cry 4, Metal Gear Solid 4 (what part of MGS is bad the great story telling or the great gameplay? Either way its loved by many and doesn't need your approval.), Ninja gaiden Sigma, Genji, Heavenly Sword
Platform- Only need to say this one game Ratchet and Clank sequel
Racing- Motor Storm, Gran Turismo (you may not call it good but tons of other people do), Formula 1
Fighting- Tekken 6 and Virtua Fighter 5
RPGs- White Knight Story, Final Fantasy XIII, Untold Legends
FPS- Resistance: Fall of Man
Many of those games will be out soon so your a liar (lets switch that I and A and we got another PS3 title showing promise Lair).
It's a shame Sony won't fail and Nintendo will stay in its normal spot. Have a nice day.
(insert profanity about other console)
Are you telling me that PS3 price isn't too high?
Are you telling me the online is really free or even going to be any good? we have to pay other developers(EA)?
I think the main point is that.. WI and 360 will outsell the PS3 until next year when those questions above are answered.
screw sony, you know all these corporations are greedy but sony is the worst. With their storage formats they release all of which failed. Remember they created memory sticks which only they use,blu ray,you can throw um in their kind of,md players and probably other formats that failed. man they even got Liksang.com out of Business due to Multiple Sony Lawsuits. I use to be a sony fan boy too then i seen what Nintendo DS and XboX.LIVE has to offer.. PS3 what PS3?
Check back to the PS2 they had games from EA and other companies online for free. Even Socom a great FPS on the PS2 had free online with no strings attached. The only pay to play were Final Fantasy XI and Everquest as far as I know (and MMORPGs don't count).
So it is possible to do free online they've already done it. Nothing stopping them from doing it again.
And the price is a personal matter for each person. I for one have saved up and can afford one and will get one, and I think I'll get everything I payed for and more in fun and happiness.
Nolan hit this one on the nail. This is basic business and everyone should realize why the PS2 did so well.
I am very surprised these "fanboys" as they are called pick sides based on false loyalties. Neither Microsoft or Sony are any better than each other. Its just business.
Whos a loser? Getting pissed off because I insulted your favorite console? Just because I want the PS3 to fail?
Also, how is the wii gay? I dont see anything that could classify the console as a Homo. The games coming for it are ones that spank Sonys and Microsofts console completely.
Example: Zelda. No game comes close to the awesomeness of the zelda series and twilight princess looks like the best game yet.
Virutal console is another example. Classic games from Sega, Hudson, Nintendo and other companies from the 90's? Best Idea Ever. Microsofts live aracade and Sonys Live Ripoff wont even come close to that.
So, Mr. Anger. Grow up and realize that flaming a person over his/her opinion doesn't help anything and helps make you look like even more of a moron. Have a nice day
Sony is the most greedy evil corporation eh? Well should I introduce this company called Microsoft to you? They have a pretty poor and controlling track record themselves (far worse than Sony if you ask around a bit).
Sony trys to be inovative with new storage formats and devices and you shoot them down. Unless people try these kind of things we will never move on so your really anti-progressive in your thinking.
PS3 what PS3... oh the one with the great titles... yea that one... I'll take that one.
Well you'd do the same if this guy insultted your Wii and don't pretend for a second you wouldn't.
I'd say the Metal Gear Solid series and Final Fantasy Series do a good job of coming close to your almighty savior of Zelda (please don't take this as a huge attack on Zelda I know you all love him ever so much).
Virtual console is just a small bonus imo because I certainly don't buy a next-gen console to play old games on it. PC emulators (oh yea you guys ripped of those in the first place so don't call anything else a rip off its hypocritical) have done this for me for a long time.
And you don't have that many great games on Wii. Sony has just as many super titles coming its way (as I listed above).
He basically said Sony got lucky twice. I could agree if they just got lucky once, but they did this twice so they have an idea how to make it happen imo. Lightening struck once, twice, and let's make it three times for Sony.
you obviously don't plan to get a PS3, but to say it sucks without playing it, is stupid. You say GT and MGS are not good games, I know people who would say Zelda is a rehash of the same game 10 years ago. Nintendo is rehashing the same franchises 10 years ago. What's this virtual console crap? Wow, I can play my NES, SNES, Genesis game on the Wii. Wait, can't I play that on my PSP for free or my orginal consoles?
This old man really pissed off all the playboys, you guys are pathetic. What did I read in that article? Founder of more than 20 companies? He must be doing something right.
i F***ing hate chuckie cheese, it sux0rs. i like to touch little boys, and the wii sux 2.
Yes he's doing something right in the business world, doesn't mean he knows anything about games now does it. Like Fistfight said above he's more so a clever thief with a piss poor attitude towards Sony.
You fanboys are really something. I mean, come on. From reading the article i donot see him slamming sony, and praising MS or nintendo. He is stating his opineon based on years of experience. I have heard much the same that sonys dev tools are sub par or hard to work with. And none of you fanboys can tell me that Sony hasnt shown its arogance many many times. And to boot, the Ps3 isnt even out; so your all relying on hype. This is how Sony has sold its gaming products. Hype. Dont get me wrong, i fell for the Psone and PS2 hype. But we were also in the age where Sony really could tell us anything they wanted, and we ate it up. Now with the majority of people having interent access and such. We are able to make are own judgements, and look beyond Sonys hype. And guess what, many many people have seen through Sonys BS, Lies (what ever you want to call them) and are not going to just slam down $600 on there false claims. Ill let the Sony sheep do that.
phuck all of u! Any one who thinks the wii is gay is a 12 year old boy who is insecure about his own sexuality the xbox 360 to me is a pretty good sytem aka a B-A system the ps3 i wanted to get one this year i looked a the launch titles and they all suck (P.S. God of war and gran turismo are some of the worst games i played!)
He only mentions positives abot Wii and 360 in the article if you didn't notice either and no negatives for them. Sony on the other hand he only has negatives to speak of.
"Sony's success with PS and PS2 was nothing brilliant and that they were merely able to hit the market right on spot because of perfect timing. Bushnell even calls Sony as "almost the accidental winner."
That fact that man can discredit PSX and PS2 both of which were extremely solid system and had so many amazing titles in some many genres. The delivered on their hype the last 2 times and game sales and console sales over the years prove it (from a business stand point atleast).
Even with those sub-par dev tools still seems to me amazing games are coming out for the PS3 so I guess they are usable atleast.
Sony has done it twice before with great systems that have great games. I'm guessing it will happen again. If you want to bring up the internet part it is causing problems to with creating spin and such on subjects. If you want to discuss what "BS" Sony is putting out there post it in here cause I'd like to know honestly.
baaaahhhhhhhhhh
Spector must be an undercover $ony operative. He doesn't listen to what people say and sees anything against his opinion as an attack. Exactly in line with sony's PR campaign. Not getting off topic, Nolan Bushnell is the main reason video games even exist, and everybody is attacking his opinion. Does anybody even know how sony entered the videogame market? They originally had a partnership with Nintendo to make a CD add on for the Super Nintendo to compete with Sega CD. Both companies realized it was too late and next gen was approaching so the project was cancelled. sony had a lot of money invested, so thought to use that research to make their own console. Their time was right and Sega botched the Saturn big time so their timing was perfect. The N64 was technically a much better system, but they made it cartridge based and that ruined their chance to get the top spot, due to the high price of cartridges. He is also right on the mark about sony screwing developers. PS2 had to be programmed from an assembly level, just because they didn't need to make it easy. They have the installed user base and people are more likely to buy a product they are familiar with. sony is doing it again with the PS3, even blatently saying people will pay the hefty price simply because it's sony. So go ahead and say Atari sucks, Chuck E Cheeze sucks, etc if that makes you feel better. This guy is a genius, and he has a good sense of business ethics.
360 games are not what i call good. i bought a ds and sold it 2 weeks later. it was a waste of money due to no good games. plus i want to be cheap bia and play free homebrew games so i got a psp.
i hope nintendo fails with the wii and joins sega in sony's RIP list.
how you like that......hahaha
i find it hard to take the advice of a man who's company is going under seriously.
Atari is on the brink of shutting it's doors down, and it has been selling off some of it's "franchises" to other companies (ie, Driver being sold to Ubisoft).
now, get me someone who actually knows how to keep a game business successful, and i'll consider his thoughts (Chuck E. Cheeses doesn't count, as it's not a game publisher, but a family restaurant).
as for the PS3, it's going to be a great system. so is the 360. i don't care about the Wii, as much as i would like to, i just can't get over the fact that most of the games for the system, when seen, look, well...lame. you can say it will get better, but i don't know.
games like Bioshock, and Assassin's Creed have set a new bar for gaming, and the Wii, i think, won't be able to compete, either in graphics nor gameplay advancements. sure, it will have some interesting titles in it's own right, what with the wand, but the lack of processing power is what will keep the console from truly breaking boundaries. it had the potential, but the low specs are seriously a detriment. developers will have to compromise yet again, while the 360 and PS3 will allow them to create game experiences and worlds unlike any we've had before (ie, Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Bioshock, White Knight Story, Heavy Rain, etc.)
it's not all about graphics (and that's not what i'm talking about in the previous paragraph), but processing power equates to more than just a few more million polygons on the screen.
the Wii far from sucks, but it's dissappointing me so far.
I wish I was an undercover guy working for Sony but alas I am not. I work at a local Gamestop actually and today is my day off so I'm just playing games and reading my favorite news feed. And no I don't feel attacked or anything I just like to try and set straight any false information. If I'm saying something wrong correct me as well (that's what I enjoy here).
About this man though "Isn't this the guy who stole pong? What did he do for gaming besides put into affect cpoyright laws and force some old engineer into retirement? all of his ideas he stole and he is not a gamer with fresh ideas. He is however a capitolist who would steal Sony's ideas and then comment on how great it is." is a very relavant comment Fistfight made about this guy.
And honestly unless I'm a developer I only care about the end result the developers come out with and for PSX and PS2 it was great stuff. Yes I will pay more because it's Sony because Sony has delivered in the past and from the games they've annoucned look like they will be doing it again.
He has done stuff right in the business world for sure, but he comes across in the interview as bitter to me (can't prove that though so however you read into it).
Nintendo has Pokemon!! yeah~~ dont forget donkey kong and mario party?~~ any more kid games im leaving out? people better start having more kids or nintendo will be out of business soon. btw.... i have 80 bucks now.... should i buy a gamecube? hahahahhaa... i'll accept the Wii as a contender as soon as someone explains the success of the gamecube.
i agree with spector tho MS has a track record of their own too~~~~~
I would have bought the xbox if it wasnt made by microsoft. Sorry but I have had lots of bad experiences already with their products.
You're totally right about this guy and his last little bit of limelight he's using to try and stir up something.
For anyone who thinks I just love to contradict anyone... I totally agree with Figboy here.
Wii will suck.... as good as Zelda is too you... it didnt help the n64 or gamecube did it? but for sure it will help the Wii because cmon.... it will.
He sold his interest in Atari long ago (early eighties) and the company has been going down slowly ever since. It seems like most of you are missing the point. Great graphics are nice, but get old fast and don't make a game more fun. At least Nintendo has the balls to try something new. I'm not sure if I would buy one but I'd definately like to try it out.
Microsoft is b3yond g@y $ony fanboys like you
good point spector. this 'got lucky' bull***** is ridiculous. sony actually goes round to developers , gets them onboard , makes sue they have a great product with great software and support ... they dont 'get lucky' or are ' at the right place at the right time' unlike other componies sony has control and foresight of where the market is going and how to stay ahead of it. they are used to making complicated electronic equipment and know how to stay ahead of the game . microsoft will NEVER catch them. i have a 360 and the damn thing is noise pollution compared to the ps2. and the ps3 is virtually silent next to a 360 , just check out comments of anyone whos already recieved one. microsoft dont have the technical abilty to make soemthing like the ps3. they are just the sega and nintendo of thier time , getting a part here and there to make soemthing that half way decent...but that wont work anymore because a huge company with vastly greater experience in technology has parked thier mercedes slk right next to microsofts chrysler neon .
yeah but how noisy is that 360 ... damn thats one noisy *****
I agree with everything that you’re saying. I must admit you have to be the fist guy that works at a game store that is pro PS3. I went to an ebgames not to long ago and the person told me that the PS3 could not be upgraded as far as HDD. What the hell was that?!
Also to NiteFire; don't mention my name and wii in the same sentence. I really hope that you are like 17 b/c anyone older then that will look like an idiot playing that thing. I wish there was a poll for what is the age group for the wii buyers. Are 20+ year olds really going to buy this? You can't move forward in the console wars with a gimmicky controller and retro games as being your platform. Sony has MGS4, 360 has gears of war and the wii has Mario golf and Pokemon Photoshop. Don’t know if Nintendo is going to survive this round.
I'd say it's the combination of great gamplay and great graphics that can make a game really stand out. Great gameplay alone can to but it needs a lot to stand up on just that.
Take a look at Katamari Damacy it has square box like graphics for lots of stuff but the gameplay is so fun and addictive it really gives you a wonderful game expereience.
Nintendo is also kinda ballsy and forced into doing this since they don't have the money to go out on a limb with cutting edge software. I'm looking to get a Wii as long as everyone I talk to likes theirs enough. Until then I'll just play the one in the store where I work lol.
And you Sony luvvorz aren't making it better or proving a point.
You can't compare Wii and PS3 or XBox 360. Why? Wii isnt about traditional ,thus they didnt just improve hardware, but about intuitive interaction. No, the graphics don't suck, but they aren't better. Gameplay is different, but in my view, have an effort to succeed.
PS3 and Sony have BAD reputation at this moment. I love Nintendo and Sony, but Sony's disappointing news about discluding certain promised things, taking Microsoft's low-end/high-end selling idea, taking Nintendo's free online service (though, it isn't really an issue, as they did do a twist), trying to be intuitive by adding motion sensoring (poorly I add, even Nintendo could put the rumble function! Which can be abit disturbing being the Wii controller's design...), and some others... Sony does have its highlights and I'll still most likely buy one (no PSP though thanks) in the later future, but nothing this holiday season is HUGE enough to make me buy off ebay (lol)
All 'n all, stop b$@%&ing and just state a neutral argument stupid people.
Yea usually any Sony related customer I have to tend to just because the other guys working there aren't anywhere into Sony like me.
This guy doesn't know Crap about games. Look at his poor company, Atari use to be the big name in games when I was like 8. Now this company isn't even in the know. All they do is publish other companys games. Atari Jaguar? Whack arse system. Atari was trumped by a plumber and a bunch of stuffed animals. That is a sad fact.
He sits there proud as if his company is doing something. If his worg is gold, I dare his lame arse to create another American made system to take out the PS3. It just won't happen...ever.
.fair enough its not the system for you but if u look at from another perspective the fact that the wii has taken the direction it has is actually a greta thing for video games as a whole.
what we would have had here if not for wii's innovative approach is three systems all trying to do the same thing at the same time. but now that nintendo has added something revolutionary ( and it is a bit ) , theyve changed the map of video games . this step is going to have the next genereation (including microsoft and sony ) , thinking about how else they can change the way we play video games .
in the nineties tehre was some kind of contraption being researched..kind of a helmet which u put on and everything inside was in 3d u were actually in the 3d. the graphics were crap but that was like 13 years ago and it wasnt viable then but i wouldnt bet against someone trying to do that again or even an evolution of the wii.
it great they chose a different direction . we already have sony and microsoft going in the tried and tested path , one company that uses a litle innovation and succeeds is gonna have a great effect and introduce more variety firrther down the line.
I have this question for you...
What makes a good man go neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?"
"I hate these filthy neutrals, Kif! With enemies, you know where they stand, but with neutrals%u2014who knows. It sickens me"
That's Zapp Brannigan btw
I agree with you Sinjinn about how it's nice to see Nintendo out there trying something new. That's most likely while I'll be buying a Wii sometime in the spring or summer (after my PS3 of course lol).
That 3d system you were talking about, could that have been Virtual Boy? I know that was a failed attempted nintendo put out there at a semi-3d helemt type thing.
omg, my 360 makes noise, it must suck.... LOL my pc makes more noise and its in a larger case.. not only that, the machine is less than 2 months old. my 360 isnt that noise. yeah maybe the dvd drive in it is, but who the ***** really cares.
People who watch movies on their consoles most of the time like to have it quiet so it doesn't have a droning that interupts the mood of the movie or a very story driven game as well.
It's all about the ambience.
no room for sony in this buisness, they should be opted the worst console makers in history. just like before
Nintendo and Microsoft = good grounds of developing, alot of previous experience, awesome dev support (see GoW and 512mb article) and they both know what the community wants.
$ony = japanese ***** sucking money wanting ass squirt monkey testicales; that eat chedder more than 3 times a week. ASS HOLE
why cant you guys just leave each other alone. If you enjoy a console, thats good, if you do not have anything nice to say; like they say "STFU." You fanboys are egotistic b!tches. Stop the whining and accept the fact the PS3 is 600$. Its gona lower later on as time goes by and technology advances. If you got enough money for a computer than you have enough money for a PS3.
you bring up a very pointless, idiotic, and immature point... not!
So your saying a bunch of people waiting to get Gears of War a 360 title (and 360 fanboys most likely) don't plan on getting a PS3! No way. This almost makes as much sense as 1+1+2.
I read enough dumb fanboy comments to mkae me want to throw up.
1. Wii is not gay. That is just ridiculous. Nintendo is truly the apple of the video game world and thats it. Get over it. They made a cool controller and people like it.
2. Xbox 360 and GoW are an awsome combination. When I can afford one I will get it (price WILL drop)
3. PS3 will be a great console for anyone who can afford it. I think the graphics and games will have a more adult theme and it will be a good console.
Now to crush all the stupid "it the same rehash" comments. Not that many games are brand spanking new. Maybe you should quit playing video games if you are that bored. M$ doesn't have as many rehashes (or at least not that far along) b/c it is the youngest of all three to be in the console race. But lets just clear this crap up
Sony - Final Fantasy 99^99999 and Grand Turismo Bajillion
Nintendo - Zelda: Twilight Redundancy and Mario GFYS
Microsoft - Halo 3 (and thats about all they got :) )
The point is we will always play rehashes. And that isn't even including EA in this picture. Madden is getting ridiculous. Maybe they need a different sports broadcaster. Where the hell is Bryant Gumbel Football?
You guys all fail with the fanboyism.
I really hope this time around its split even three ways so everyone gets good games.
Not to finish. ANyone calling the Wii kiddy or gay is either a homophobe 14 year old who will grow up to come out of the closet, an ignorant bastard who cannot find a more suitable word then gay, or is someone in total denial about kid games coming out for all systems. Do you really think Barbie Dreamhouse wasn't released for playstation 2.
Censorship is a totally different subject. That is the only beef I have with nintendo. THey exercise way too much censorship. ESRB is in place to rate games. It should become federal law and the ESRB should have more power. Parents are still ultimately responsible (and they should be held so). If you want proof of intendo's censorship just lok back to the mortal kombat fiasco where the genesis version was exactly like the arcade and the SNES version was cleaned up of blood and gore (to a degree and this does not make it kiddy. It makes it appropriate in the eyes of those who run nintendo).
Oh... one last thing. You are a complete moron if you do not realize the potential for homebrew on the Wii. THis will be the first time that nintendo is using not only a dvd drive, but also 2 (count em) USB ports with and SD slot as well. This is gonna get ugly folks. I promise you that the Wii will get cracked in half the time the Xbox 360 was. Now I am not syaing steal games and crap. I am actually against that. But I do know that the DS is most usefull with the addition of homebrew, just like the PSP. Downloadable content will rule all one day. THere is no way around it. So when the beautiful people that hackers are get their hands on a WII, I cannot wait to see what happens. And for me, that is alot more important then what any fanboy perspective has to say.
He no longer works for Atari and hasn't for a long time. Anyway, Jaguar wasn't a bad system for it's time. The games were horrible though. The system could have been a winner with the right support and was technically better than the neo geo and on par with the 3do. Another case of no decent games, no buyers.
Sorry but you're wrong.
And why does it say Chuckie Cheese guy?
PS3 also has some great homebrew abilities as well. With the ability to install Yellow Dog Linux onto your PS3 for free the possiblities are many.
This guy is honestly a joke. He must be living in some kind of dreamworld if he thinks the PS3 will fail. "People don’t buy hardware, they buy software." Well, guesse who's company almost went bankrupt a few times? And he's been in the hardware and software buisiness.
OK how am I wrong? And if you didn't read the article then how the hell do you know what I am talking about. As for PS3 having great homebrew, well we will see many many a firmware upgrade. But that is probably just as true for the Wii. I don't think that PS3 will not be glorious but the Wii is a steal if it gets ripped apart. thats just my opinion anyhow.
P.S. if you are gonna say I am wrong, please tell me where I am wrong?
And recently Sony seems to be taking a pounding. Microsoft got bashed for releasing early, defective systems and shortages.
Now they are sitting pretty at the top with 6.5 million systems sold, plenty of great software, XBLA is rocking and rolling, Gears of War just hit, Marketplace with Movies/Games/TV/Zune, Japan taken by storm with Blue Dragon and Lost Planet, FIFA and PES exclusive in Europe, and Halo 3 is now reservable.
Nintendo has a bit of momentum from TGS and a great value for what the thing can do.
Sony should be able to get out of this funk, but from the outside looking in, Sonys house is not in order. Not to mention Sony has a track record of defective launches, horrible tools for games, bad launch titles. Combined with losses on each PS3 system sold, HD-DVD scoring better reviews, battery problems in Dell lap-tops, Lik-Sang getting shut down from Sony lawsuits, Konami pressuring Kojima to port MGS4 to 360, the fact that it costs $600 to just -buy- the system, and PS3 exclusives dropping like flies. Can you blame anyone for thinking Sony is hurting.
I doubt they will go away, Sony has great products. The gaming division has had some major problems recently. I know as a gamer myself, I will not buy a PS3 for at least a couple of years. So you need to have an opinion as a consumer, not a fan. If you do, you realize what Bushnell is talking about.
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OMG you guys r u serious. 1st of all the gay60 hasnt even sold that many units ITS A FACT GO TO DCEMU.CO.UK thats proof that the gay60 sucks the gameboy was beating it in sales
well anyways, i have nothing to say about nintendo, there games are fun (SUPER SMASH BROS.), but i do have to say it is a little bit kiddish
and sony, well im not a sony fan boy, but i have to say they have my type of games wich are sport, cars, and gta. ( I AM AWARE THAT MICROSUCKS HAS GTA TOO)
I'm 26 and probably you'r dad (j/k). But who gives a rats ass how cool you look. You are gonna be by yourself most of the time playing anyhow. I suppose you are the same kind of person that sits in the back at a dance club b/c they are affraid to lok stupid. WHo cares if you look dumb. Screw everyone else. You are having fun and that is what counts. Getting off your fat ass for a millisecond isn't gonna kill you. I thought DDR was stupid until I tried it and realized that it was alot harder then it looked. And you know what, I had fun. Can't you laugh at yourself ever. SOmeone has self esteem issues......
the ps3 will sell to all the fanboys but when they get there consoles,i don't think some little kids mom will buy them a 600$ system.they will probubly get a wii because it is the cheapest.
First I'd have to say Gears of War is the first real must have for the 360 and it has taken a year for such a game to come along.
360 will need more than 2 titles to get Japan on board with them. Sure it will help but it won't make 360 a major player in Japan.
I'd say Sony's track record recently has been pretty bad, but you can still look back on PS2 and PSX and know Sony has done the right thing in the past as well.
And Bushnell still said PS2 and PSX just got lucky with their succes. That is something I could never agree on him with. A major worldwide corporation doesn't just get lucky they know what their doing.
good 1 QJ, you started fanboy wars...
ps3 sux
wii pwns
xbox 360 pwns
halo pwns
psp homebrew pwns
loco roco pwns
Gameboy Advance Forever :)
I'm sure you've been to the mall lately and seen those kids throwing hissy fits. If they want a PS3 they will whine, kick, and scream until they get it.
Parents don't research this stuff they'll just know little Johnny said he wantted this and that's what they have to get.
It's really a demographic it's extremely hard to make assumptions about.
and it only took one old man!!!
o, Eric Cartman wants a wii over a ps3, and Eric Cartman pwns, so ps3 sux even more and wii pwns even more
HOLY MOTHERUCKING CHRIST?!?! Is this man serious? wha wha wha whatttt???? OMFG...Not that i care for the opinion of a once legend (never gave a ***** for his games) but what in the hell was he thinking? Atari aint doing to hot and they pretty much need any platform they can develop on. screw it, i'll respond later to more dimwitts who agree with him.
Very sad, I'm loving all this negative press for the PS3. Will make me very happy when it owns the other 2 systems and everyone is like "PS3 owns!" Then I can say "told you so!" Anyway this guy is old, what the heck does he know about games? PS3 has the best games coming out. It will be the king once again. Yawn.
And I do know he created Atari, big deal. They were fun when there was no other big system to compete against. I owned the 2600. Was my first system. Still doesn't mean this guy knows anything. :)
Actually, I'm 20 and am Gonna be buying a wii. Where do you get the kids image for it? Because it has mario and Pokemon? both of those are excellent games. (except for mario party... I've played the same game 7 differant times). Final Fantasy Games have became lame. The last good FF game was FFVI for the SNES. No story can come close to how awesome it was in FFVI. Kefka was also one of the best villians of all time.
Devolopers like the wii more then the PS3. Why? Because they love it, critics love it and most people who've played it love it. I'm definatly gonna enjoy it.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl online anyone?
Oh, Anger doesnt have a wii (think about what I really mean ;p
My XBOX has never frozen or overheated. It's well known that was only a problem with launch units. PS3 will have problems too with it's experimental technology. I guarantee it.
PS3 controllers are just a modified SNES controller!
talk about 1991 technology....
SOOOOOO WAY BEYOND LAST GEN!
PS3 suc$$$$ very badly it will not sell and to all sony fan boys stop talking krap all of you dont even know what you are saying morons.
Sony has no good games in anything , the ps3 or ps2 or psp they all suck i got a ps2 and sold it the same week and i got a psp when it came out and sold it the same week.
So shut up because Microsoft will win the concel war
I think the xbox 360 is good, the wii is okay and the ps3 rules.
( game speaking, in hardware it's different, xbox360 and ps3 is almost the same to run games ( ps3 have more speed and processing and x360 have more RAM ) and the wii is... special, nothing more... )
anyway, I think this guy is simply another ass trying to get know talking about big things like the console war.. Qj should stop posting this crap, it's just starting stupid ideological fanboy wars!
shame on Qj for posting so much uselessness...
all companys start work on the next system as soon as the launch of their previous system is complete.
Another one who underestimates Sony's brand power on the PlayStation department. You can all say "360 rulz" and all but the reality is that I have 9 friends who are right now having problems with their 360s (yes they are not modded) problems such as freezing, weird noises, disc scratching and overheating. Oh I also forgot to mention that my brother (who's an Xbox lover ever since Halo 1 came out) is frustrated with his console's performance (freezing issues and is afraid of updating his console due to known E71 errors).
I personally think MS shoot themselves this time because if we go back, the Xbox 1 did not have so many issues even after 10 months after launch (unlike the Xbox 360). MS is a software company and they built an....update which bricks consoles? (Yeah MS always says it's "less than 1% of users...yeah yeah 1% my a$$). My laptop and also one of my friend's were damaged by Windows infamous updates (yeah slow performance and crashes on modern spec machines). We can see Sony, which is famous for hardware and not software (unlike MS) is beating out MS in the software arena (we have yet to see a PSP-bricking update coming from Sony). The truth is sad....Xbox had a great potential and MS abandoned it so early...I did like Halo, Halo 2 and Doom 3 though, played it a lot with my bro and company.
Anyways those are my two cents, peace!
Why don't you also criticize Xbox's and Gamecube's joystiqs and the buttons, oh and the cord and all? Why don't you do your own console, games and your "oh-so-original" controller?
theres nothing wrong with nintendos censorship. they aim at the kids market and they want games on the system to be family games . all this 'censorship is bad' idea that has been going on is riddiculous . once someone is an adult they can decide for themselves what they want to do but while they are a kid they dont HAVE to be exposed to this stuff . and the stupidest point everyone keeps falling on is ' parents are responsible'... no parents are responsible but so is society.
Go Loco Roco
Isn't Atari the one that cause the videogame crash in 1982 because of no restrictions causing people to lose their homes and swim in crappy games?
They don't even compete anymore. Who are they to judge?
And that is exactly what the ESRB rating system is for. Kids shouldn't be able to buy gore games. Parents should make that decision. Ultimately nintendo can still appeal to that market. They should have less constraint on third party developers. If you think it isn't there then you are kidding your self. Now I am not saying they shouldn't make the great games they have been. I don't expect nintendo to make gore filled games but if they ever want to be on top again they would have to change their attitude. There is a reason that the ESRB exists. They should leave it up to them. Then they don't have to deem anything appropriate. I hope ESRB does become federal and ratings become law. It would be better for everyone. Besides, hardcore games appeal to older audiences don't they? SO how much money would they really loose. ANd if I asked my mom when I was a kid for a gore filled game she could make that decision based on what age I am and my levelk of maturity.
Sony fanboys shut up? Thats pretty funny since i can only see about a hand-full of people here that aren't flaming the console. And seriously dude, microsoft will win the concel war! go microsoft!
is that so nextor? actually i have a feeling that XBOX 360 recall is not 3% based on what Microsoft said. it's more likely 5%-10%. they extended the warranty for 1 year now as a proof that more system are capable to be returned.
i made a personal survey before. 20 out of 22 peple are buying a PS3. and take note those 10 people are hard core XBOX fans. they are my co workers friends. so it seems that a lot of XBOX fans are jumping ship to either PS3 or Wii.
Oh yeah 8 of those 20 people including me are purchasing PS3 on launch day. the rest will just wait for the price drop or will buy after 6 months.
yeah but 2 console in 12 year 94 we know ps3 ll gonna be there for at least 6 years and price gonna go down
but my view on it is that Sony is taking a *HUGE* risk in what *they're* trying to accomplish as well.
including cutting edge technology into their console is costly, and risky.
sure, Nintendo is going out on a limb to bring us the "Wiimote," but they aren't taking a loss on the console, as they plan to make a profit on day one, from hardware sales, as well as from periphial sales.
hardcore Nintendo fans will buy the Wii in droves. even if no one else outside of the hardcore buy a Wii, Nintendo will still make a huge profit on the Wii. in short, it's not as risk heavy as it seems.
and considering the phenomenal success of the DS, even if the Wii bombed (100% unlikely), DS sales and software would still keep Nintendo in the green for years to come.
and don't even get me started on MS. they have enough money to fund the PS3, Wii, and 360 *combined*. the 360 isn't as huge of a financial risk as people like to make it out to be. if the 360 fails, believe you me, in 4 years, we'll see it's successor. Microsoft has the bank account to back that up, even though investors will be mighty pissed if the 360 doesn't do better.
Sony is really the only one betting the farm while trying to give consumers the most bang for their buck. the Cell processor is not cheap. the Blu Ray drive is not cheap. the reason why Sony is "forcing" this technology on you is because they need *something* that will make them a profit, as, out of the 3, they are, financially, the worst off ones (ironic, considering their market leader status).
their movie studio segment isn't that great.
their consumer electronics segment isn't doing great, but it's not doing terrible either.
their music segment isn't doing great.
the only thing that has the potential to make them a lot of cash is the PS3, and the Playstation brand.
by marrying the Playstation brand to a new format like Blu Ray, Sony stands to make a killer profit in licensing fees, and maybe, finally, go into the green, instead of the perpetual red and black they've been in for a long time.
while i applaud Nintendo for having the balls to base it's new console's future on an unproven technology, i have to applaud Sony for the same, but also look at the risk factor in both of their decisions. bottom line, Nintendo isn't risking much, Sony is risking a lot. MS stands to benefit the most from any slip up that Sony may undergo, simply because they are after the same market demographic (albiet in their own unique way; MS for the hardcore gamer enthusiast, and Sony for the hardcore multimedia enthusiast, which also includes games). Nintendo is targeting a completely different one (ie, their fanatical fanbase, and casuals).
i am grateful that all 3 consoles are doing something unique, as last gen they were pretty much offering the same thing. i'm glad that, for the first time since i've been gaming (1985), there is a legit reason to own all 3, and not just because it's cool and trendy to have all 3 game systems, but because each one is offering experiences the other cannot. i hope the Wii will appeal to me in the future, but if not, there are two other alternatives.
Yeah, i agree on sony being out on just the right time, I have an Xbox360, and it has some great games, and i plan on getting a Wii, cuz its the only real Next-Gen console IMO.
Why ? Becoz its not just a hardware update, it has an inovative play style, like the DS, (which i don't have, but i think i might be getting one). But yeah, the PS3 packs a punch, and the PS has always had great games, but IMO way to many bad games, the ratio is like 1/100 thats somewhat good. Not that all the Xbox games are good, or great.
And i seriously doupt the 6axis controller to expand the gameplay other than a flight game, which i have never been a fan of.
Well, i might get a PS3 sometime next year, I'll wait and see what good games that comes out.
But more to the point I'm writting a comment, DIE ALL YOU GOD DAMN FANBOYS ! I am so tired of news like this being a Flame war. So all you Nintendo/Xbox/Playstation fanboys... STFU !
first things first:
reputation shouldn't be the reason why any one of us buys a console. what that product is offering should. if you don't like what the PS3 is offering, you don't have to buy one. no one is forcing a purchase on any of us.
two: the multi-sku idea isn't a problem, and it does indeed offer the consumer a choice, if they don't like the $600 asking price. unlike Microsoft's offering, however, at least both PS3 skus come with an HD, and all the other necessary components to make both console's equal. the high end PS3 includes 40 extra gigs, Wi Fi, and SD and memory stick slots. is that really worth an extra $100? and are you really going to be using those features? with the Core 360, you *have* to upgrade to an HD eventually if you want to get things like game downloads, and a little thing called backwards compatibility. look up some of Live's recent offerings, and they all require an HD, and pretty much a Gold account. that's not choice, it's called "bait n' switch."
three: the PS2 had free online, so Sony definitely isn't taking it's free online from Nintendo.
four: the whole motion sensing issue is being blown way out of proportion, and while i don't want to pick a side, i do deal in facts. there was an interview about 3 years ago (prior to the Wii controller reveal), where Ken Kutaragi was talking about things we could look forward to with the PS3 (this was also before the console, and it's controller were revealed). he mentioned that the player would be able to use the controller to, for example, "steer a car in gran turismo," i don't know about you, but that implies some sort of motion sensitivity in my view. it doesn't take an innovative mind to come up with adding motion controls to a controller (hell, back in 96, Pelican made a Dual Shock controller with motion sensing for the PS1. look it up).
five: rumble. the reason the PS3 doesn't have rumble is due to Immersion. period. despite the excuses Sony comes up with, that's the truth behind the situation. i love irony, so i find it humorous that Immersion is now crawling back to Sony after suing them, and realizing that they were a valuable part of their business (which begs the question, if they were making money off of Sony, wouldn't that imply that they were getting paid some sort of fee from the company? maybe i'm reading it wrong). you don't just sue somebody (and especially for 19 million), and expect them to suddenly be your best friend. as an exercise lately, i've been playing all of my games without rumble, from Shadow of the Colossus, to Silent Hill, to Kingdom Hearts 2. for me, personally, didn't even notice that the rumble was gone. that's how much of an impact rumble has on my playing after 10 years. i thought i would miss having it for Shadow of the Colossus, as it's use of rumble is very well done, but it doesn't add or detract anything from the gameplay, and i find i like it more when the rumble is gone (it gets uncomfortable for my hands after a while). i'd much rather see some tilt sensitivity than rumble (as a note, i played the PS3 at E3 this year, and tried out Warhawk. despite my skepticism, the motion sensing worked close to perfection, with little or no noticeable delay, and the game was actually very enjoyable. i realized then that Nintendo and Sony may be onto something with this motion kick, but i admit i like Sony's take better, as it's an option that can be ignored or turned off for most games, whereas, with the Wii, if you find that the Wiimote isn't your bag, you're in trouble. that's not choice. with Sony's offering, the choice is there).
six: the PSP. great system. period. hampered by capitalistic developers and movie studios who thought to cash in on a.) a new format for movies (for the movie studios), and b.) a port house for all of their console games (for the game developers). this year has actually seen a big turnaround in the PSP's software, as, ever since Daxter and Syphon Filter: Dark Mirror, the quality in PSP games has been going up. that's the g
You make a very good point Figboy.
This is definately a reason to think that Sony is going to try their hardest to make sure we the gamers are happy with their console since much of their future lies upon it.
i bet if Sony ever made a console called Playstation Remote, and had the hardware of the ps2 and enjoyable PSX Emulator; costing at only 200$; you guys would be flockin'
In my console what I'm looking for is technological advancement not the same crack with a new controller. What if some people have arthritis or some bone deformalities/diseases and your comments made them to want the Wii so much, just to find it worsens their pain. I just wanna be able to relax, maybe turn the controllers a bit; not as crazy as the Wii. This is my opinion: The Wii seems like a Xbox/PS2 with a new controller and a higher price tag
You really think that everyone that stands in line for a game for the Xbox360 is a Xbox fanboy ??
I am really sick and tired of all this fanboy *****e.
Every single fanboy should be killed with the console that they are a fanboy of.
I think Nintendo's censorship is something that is for the entire world that it ships to. The only people who really make use of the ESRB system is the US and Canada. So it just Nintendo being family friendly on the global level.
FIGHTING ON THE INTERNET IS LIKE COMPETING IN THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS!!!!!! EVEN IF YOU WIN YOUR STILL A RETARD!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
All the companies want money none of them are in it because they care about consumers, Microsoft will win this time because of a combination of things, like they came out a year earlier than the competition and because 25 million people bought the origional xbox, and because the xbox 360 offers the best experience at the right PRICE (playstation 3 is too pricey for the MASSES) and because microsoft has the most money to secure the best games on their system, just like how sony beat nintendo and sega because sony had more money and they bought games left and right like final fantasy which made them automatically win in japan and when you win in japan you win everywhere, example resident evil, metal gear, final fantasy, devil may cry, ninja gaiden, virtua fighter, tekken, dead or alive, I could go on all day, all these franchises are coming from Japanese developers and these are games even americans and europeans like that is why it is so important that microsoft have Japanese developer support because if they don't Playstation will win again.
I would consider the Wii to be a really fair price, maybe its not that Hardware oriented, but i consider it to be the most inovative.
And if you are talking about what the Japanese what... Its nintendo, it coming out with all what the japanese want. As far as the DS conserns, maybe the Wii to.... But anyways, I'm planning on getting all three anyways.
Yeah, FFVI was great, but IMO FFVII was far surpassing of VI, the story was better, many times over... I haven't ever been so drawn in by a story..
I am only talking about xbox and playstation nintendo might be the most successful look at the ds, time will tell if the wii will be the most successful if not Xbox 360 will be.
I call for a petition that makes QJ stop posting things that starts Fanboy wars. Its so utterly needless. Maybe one will get more sales than the other, but i don't think any of them will be beaten out of the Console race... Maybe Sonys PSP, if it hasn't allready.. BTW.. I think I'll sell mine.. no good games on it.. And not that much into the homebrew...
who's Chessy Pizza franchise went bankrupt a few years ago
Note: I didn't read the 70-plus comments before mine, as I don't have the time, but I doubt it will make a difference in what I'm going to say.
Even I think Bushnell is being harsh, and I HATE Sony (look for some of my previous comments for examples). I agree with his concerns about the PS3, but saying they'll struggle to sell one million units is really pushing it, and even though I personally don't know what it was, Sony must have done SOMETHING right with their previous systems (barring the PSP).
Note: I didn't read the 70-plus comments before mine, as I don't have the time, but I doubt it will make a difference in what I'm going to say.
Even I think Bushnell is being harsh, and I HATE Sony (look for some of my previous comments for examples). I agree with his concerns about the PS3, but saying they'll struggle to sell one million units is really pushing it, and even though I personally don't know what it was, Sony must have done SOMETHING right with their previous systems (barring the PSP).
you're kidding right? Playstation's ratio of good to bad is 1/100? Take a glance at your DS and look at all the great games you're playing. Chances are they're Nintendo first party. As for your comment about the controller, That's the beauty of it. Nobody can guess what devs will do with the controller. Just cause you only think of flight sims doesn't mean its restricted to that genre.
this may not fit into the arguement, but how come people say the psp sucks because the games are crappy? i mean i have a psp and well the games arent the best but its still an amazing tool because, obviously you know this but i will restate it, it shos photos, plays music, and videos. it plays movies and music umds, it streams rss music and downloads video rss cannels. it lets you watch tv if youve bought a locatrionfree player, which i have done and i think its really great, it has a fairly capable web browser that is useful for countless things like download songs or photos or videos or games. so why say the psp sucks because its games suck?
umm so your saying cartman pwns because he wants a wii, should i remind you that he aslo wants hitler to still be alive?
i like...... poo?
have u heard of a format called "DVD"... yeah that is a SONY product... and u call sony evil and greedy, do u kno the biggest thing holding back the evolution of pc's... its m$ inability to code an operating system outside of the x86 standard (a standard thats been around as long as the pc has)
and on the timing thing... sony has never been first to the market (ps came out after the sega saturn and ps2 came out after the dreamcast) so what makes this time around so different?
Of course, Microsoft has much more expertise in console making than Sony, even though they were doing it years before Microsoft. They REALLY knew what the Japanese community wanted, an 800 pound gorilla of a controller and a box that could've been used as a wrecking ball
Oh and fun fact, the Xbox team was created under a different name to write a patch for game the Lion King so it wouldn't Bluescreen everyone's computer.
For a guy who says First Party developers are idiots for developing for the PS3 clearing shows personal hate towards Sony, and pure stupidity. A first party has to make games for the PS3 if they are owned by Sony... absolutely pathetic...
Sony = charges there system so they end up losing money on it's console the first couple of years and makes up the rest of the money later on.
Microsoft = charges there system so they end up losing money on it's console the first couple of year and makes up/or doesn't (Xbox) the rest of the money later on.
Nintendo = charges there system a lot more then it costs them so they get profit from start to finish.
Who here is really the "money hungry" company out of them?
Yes I don't think I'd ever buy a console on sheer reuptation alone. I still need something else there (game mostly) that make me want that system. PS3 has the titles and sequels I want to play so I'm getting it.
Your second point is I think what Sony was trying to bring up in their press release recently and got majorly flamed for, but like you stated it completely true of how the system works.
Many people have questioned your third point but always forget PS2 had free online. Even had a guy in one thread asking about server costs forcing it upon them. All I can say is Socom is still running for free with lots of servers. So it can happen.
And I remember way way back a long time ago being in a Software Ect. and playing on I think it was some really old system and it was all in red but you drove a car on the screen with tilt sensors (if anyone can help me out with what this is I'd appreciate it.) So they can be considered the official first or whatever.
I've had the same feelings about rumble being gone. I'm going to miss it some but it's not going to vastly alter my gameplay expereince (been doing what you said with playing games on PS2 with no rumble and it goes fine).
On the subject of PSP I know more and more people thinking they are going to have to own one... and one of those people is me. With the recent release of the Power Stone Collection on PSP and the upcoming Metal Gear Solid Ops and Gitaroo Man Lives on PSP I'm definately going to need one, and other consumers will probably. The price isn't bad anymore either for them so there's nothing stopping people anymore from getting them.
Ok I work at Gamestop and there are two game release day types of people.
Type 1 (Fanboy) - Gets in the store way before he was told to (he called yesterday to check). Then he just chillls around with the other ones who've done the same thing till the box arrives is opened up and they all grab them and go.
Type 2 (Average)- These people show up at the time they were told and if it's not there yet they say they'll be back in an hour or so. Or we call them and tell them their copy is in and they come and get it.
So yes I wouldn't consider the opinions of a bunch of guys waiting to get Gears of War at a local gamestore a varried sample for a guess at PS3 sales.
Other systems to come out earlier...
Sega Dreamcast
Sega Saturn
NEC TubroGrafX 16
Yep coming out earlier will gurantee you top spot.
Oh and another thing, Sony diden't buy Final Fantasy, Nintendo just pissed Square off, and if they did buy it, explain Crystal Chronicles and FF3 DS.
An open question to all PS3 fans.
How many of you own HD capable tv's? Serisouly if the PS3 can do 1080p, and your tv can do like 420i (im not a techy, I dont know the exacte numbers, but I know one is 400 something) whats the point in the better graphics argument? I mean I seriously think Sony's strategy is to get ppl to but PS3, then see that the games look a gagillion times better on a HD tv, which by an odd coincidence Sony also makes! And when we have these Blue-Ray dvd's cuz of our Blue-Ray playing PS3's thats just another excuse to buy a HD-TV that Sony makes for way more money then a Wii that will work on my tv from 2000.
Just food for thought though.
I teared alittle when i saw the last sentence. Now you know there is atleast one person who can read good (its a joke).
whatever dude. I own a HDTV; in fact i have a widescreen monitor that came with my computer. And before you have diss on Sony again, 360's whole flippin motto is HD gaming whatever.
In any case, 4 years ago the biggest most awesome tv i had was a 34" tube television set. Then a few years ago the Sony store in my mall had this 46" widescreen lcd for a couple thousand bucks (mind you it was a different country). Now, I bought the 2006 version of that exact same set for 1400 dollars, shipping and all. Same design, but upgraded specs. as you can tell, technology doesn't stay the same for very long, and what%u2019s new and expensive now, will be affordable later--which is what Sony is banking on.
all you have to do is get sony-only memory cards that they charge a truckload for....
Blu ray is never going to go anywhere, just like minidiscs and UMD.
i'm getting all three systems. I already have a 360 and love it, gonna get the other two just becuse i can. Stop all the fanboy whining who cares just enjoy your sytem.
They'll get little Johnny what he wanted 'cuz he asked for it?
I remember asking for Super C back on the NES.
I got Bionic Commando instead. Said the store didn't have Super C.
Parents only know so much as they want to know. Demand for PS3 is high, but supply is damn low, and I really doubt anybody but the hardcore will be able to easily snatch one up.
The Wii is cheap, affordable, and all that parents know is that it's a game system that'll shut little Johnny up.
I don't understand how you say that you believe that Nintendo isn't risking a lot. You base your argument by saying that Nintendo is risking less because they don't have the potential to lose as much money?
If that were the rule, then all Nintendo would have to do is make their console more expensive. And likewise, Sony could just make the PS3 LESS expensive.
Doesn't really makes sense, does it?
The amount of money involved doesn't change the risk in something. Risk is risk is risk, Nintendo is just making sure that their ASS is covered if that risk falls under.
In the end, it's all about marketing strategy. If Sony loses customers because of it's price, then there's a big chance they set the wrong price. More expense doesn't mean more profit. KNOWING THE RIGHT PRICE is the key to profit.
So should we say that Sony is risking more because they might be making a financial blunder? I don't think so.
It's just about smart marketing.
BTW, I'm sure you know, Nintendo has a reported 20% Net Profit margin. That's 9% more than General Electric, who pretty much WRITES THE BOOKS on corporate leadership.
(http://www.buzzcut.com/article.php?story+2005053122342247)
Nintendo's risks might not be apparent because they hide it well in their marketing strategies. But it doesn't mean the risk isn't there.
Remember Beta Max? I bet a lot of you don't because, hey, its not around anymore. ASk your parents about it kiddies!
Beta Max was actual a great idea if you look at it closely. Higher qualities movies just on a shorter tape. VHS won out though because of its larger storage and people wantted to record TV shows and such. Not many companies went with Sony and Beta and it died off.
You can't directly compare Blu-ray to Beta though because now Sony is a much larger corporation and has movie companies in their pocket. This garuntees movies on Blu-ray for a good long while, and the PS3 gaming aspect of it will keep it alive even longer. So this is going to be a totally different game than it was with Beta.
Like I said before if nobody is out trying to be innovative we will never make a leap forward. Atleast Sony is trying and thinking. You're thinking is just anti-progressive.
Your comparison is like me saying when I play poker with my buddies and I'm going all in on a game it cost me $5 to get into that it is just like those guys going all in on TV who a risking losing that million dollar prize.
More money does result in more risk. If your playing it safe and covering your ass how is that even a risky move since you've covered yourself and have nothing to lose.
Your logic escapes me.
Well there are both kinds of parents some who will scream at people working at the store demanding a console.
Others who will realize what's going on and will settle for another console. So like I said it's a really hard thing to make assumption about.
i bought my SONY wega in 2000 for $1,800. i believe it's time for me to buy a new one by 2009.
so if you are thinking that consumers won't buy a HDTV 1080p after 3yrs or 4yrs, then you are having a mistake. because when someone move out from their family or get married in the next 4 yrs, they will definetly buy a new tv. by that time, HDTV will have a price drop already and affordable for the masses.
its typical for a household now to have atleast two TVs.
if the game is fun, i'll play it
You know what, your right. Money does involve risk. I was at fault to say that money isn't a direct factor to risk.
The reason why I find Figboy%u2019s argument so disturbing is because he %u201Capplauds%u201D Sony according to their risk. To applaud solely based on risk sounds like a foolish thing to me.
If a man teeters on the edge of a roof, subsequently RISKING HIS LIFE, we don%u2019t applaud him for taking a risk, we scold him for making a foolish choice. Many of Sony%u2019s choices involving risk were brought upon by themselves, and they only have themselves to answer to.
Nintendo makes good profit. And I applaud them for having good marketing strategy. I applaud them for not being exceedingly influenced by popular demand, by introducing the consumer to new and exciting technology. I applaud them for attempting to expand the market. I applaud them for not being overly focused on short or long term monetary gain, and instead, make genuine business risks to experiment for the expansion of the videogame industry as a whole, and not just for themselves.
I cannot say the same for Sony.
thats funny, my xbox360 freezes all the time for no logicial reason except that its a POS. Time for a new frying pan and i think the 360 is up for the job
"Example: Zelda. No game comes close to the awesomeness of the zelda series and twilight princess looks like the best game yet"
Apparently you've never heard of Metroid.
"Virutal console is another example. Classic games from Sega, Hudson, Nintendo and other companies from the 90's? Best Idea Ever"
Apparently you havent heard of PSP Homebrew Emulators
"Microsofts live aracade and Sonys Live Ripoff wont even come close to that"
Yeah just like all the other companies "ripped-off", Analog Sticks + Rumble + Motion Sensing PS1 controllers + Touch Sensitive Buttons + Home buttons(PSP).
Apperently your a 360 Moron.
GPSP on PSP ;)
#1 this guy hasnt been the CEO for chuck e cheese in over 15 yrs # 2 one of the main ideas behind chuck e cheese is to operate in areas were parents cant afford to go to disney land so yeah rift raft will be there since its the best things those parents can give their kids