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Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - overpriced?

Posted Feb 26, 2007 at 11:46PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Wii Tags: eBay, Japan, N64, retro, Wii Points, Zelda
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Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - Image 1First it was about Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time being released earlier in Japan and Australia, now it's about the N64 title being overpriced.

The guys over at 2Old2Play pointed out that maybe 1000 Wii Points is too expensive for a retro title. They noted that an average N64 cartridge sells between US$ 7 to US$ 20 in eBay therefore a download at US$ 10 might be a little overpriced. And they reckon that people could get a vintage N64, a cartridge of Ocarina of Time, a strategy guide plus a Zelda T-Shirt.

Considering that a lot of gamers think that Virtual Console titles are generally overpriced. Well, we'd like to think that it's the convenience of the service that makes it somehow worth it. How about you guys? What's your say?



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# maybeGuest 2007-02-27 01:29
overpriced? Perhaps.



but the convinience is what can make it worth it. it's nice to just pop on the Wii, browse the games I already have downloaded and pick one to play for awhile.

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# whateverGuest 2007-02-27 01:32
overpriced? tell Microsoft that with there arcade games with nintend you get a full game for ten dollers

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# we-=9iGuest 2007-02-27 02:03
Yeah I only buy the games on the Wii's virtual console that I don't have on the original system's. I'm not going to buy the same game twice unless they add some things to it.

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# YessGuest 2007-02-27 02:09
I think it is clearly overpriced, is the money invested that big to justify such prices? those games are not sold anymore, there is no packaging, no retailer...

I would love to play all those games but paying wii games, wiimotes, nunchuck, gamecube pad and 10$ each OLD game, it is simply out of my range...

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# No overpricingGuest 2007-02-27 02:25
It's the right price. There's no overpricing because they're offering you convenience. Just like a convenience store is a little more expensive then regular stores, it's because you can get it quick and fast.

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# no change, fair priceGuest 2007-02-27 02:27
They aren't going to change the game, the only way you get that is if they released Master Quest on the VC. As for over pricing, it's not. Sure it can cost as low as $7 on ebay, but you're forgetting the extra $5 or more you will have to put in for shipping. Besides VC is there for convinience, and anyone that is a fan of Zelda and knows the power of this game probably owns it in many ways. I own the N64 title and two different collector discs for gamecube, one that includes Master Quest. It's a fair price, but i already have 3 copies of it so I don't need to worry.

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# asdfGuest 2007-02-27 02:38
Games on ebay don't have the convenience of unlimited numbers, nor a set price. I think we as gamers are asking too much(strategy guides? seriously???). XBOX Live and VC are good services, even if overpriced. If you can find it somewhere else at a lower price, then just buy that one.

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# C'monGuest 2007-02-27 02:51
Hey, y'all fanboys: Wake up: Zelda for the VC is clearly overpriced!

You can get it NEW (unused) for N64 for $10!

So shut up!

It's not all about fighting the Nintendo thing.

Nintendo makes mistakes as well!

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# recheck yourselfGuest 2007-02-27 03:06
ebay does have a sealed copy for $9.99, but there is $5 shipping. It still has almost 4 days left with no bids...check back an hour before sale, i can guarentee it will be much more then $9.99.

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# $7-$20????Guest 2007-02-27 03:32
Just the cart on eBay will run $15 w/ s/h, if you want the manual and box you're looking at $25-$35. I would say there are a lot of games on VC that are overpriced by a dollar or two, but Ocarina of Time is certainly worth $10, even more on the open market apparently. And why would you rather have the cart than the VC??? VC is much more convenient and you'll get cleaner graphics with a decent setup.

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# OverpricedGuest 2007-02-27 03:47
It’s overpriced. People can talk about convenience all they want but it’s not that convened. If the prices come down I will buy more of the VC games. But until then I will save my money and buy new games.

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# lmaoGuest 2007-02-27 04:07
You can go to any garage sale and buy the entire N64 system with like 20 games for $25. Yes the games are overpriced. Its crazy that they are even thinking about charging $5 for games 20yrs old and $10 for games $10yrs old. You buy 4 Nintendo games for $20 off the VC. Ebay and garage sales you can find 50 games for $15! Very overpriced!

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# Are you kidding meGuest 2007-02-27 04:10
Wait, we're expected to pay more becuase they decided not to make their system backwards compatible. I can download and play all these games for free on my PC or PSP, so why pay more to play them on my wii? Especially when I then have to go out and by a "classic controller" (I have no gamecube I went PS2 last generation)



Not to mention I have bought most of these games once already for $50 when they came out. And considering they already have the code, no packaging, and pretty much no overhead, this mark-up is HUGE.

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# Over PricedGuest 2007-02-27 04:12
Nintendo would get a lot more money out of me if they charged less for the VC games. There are quite a bit out there I want, but I'm not going to drop 60 bucks to play old games.

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# True...Guest 2007-02-27 04:47
"On ebay you can get it for $7-$20 and you get it on the VC for $10"???

Thats not expensive.

The fact that you dont have to go and buy the whole damn system and games and controllers is cheap enough. All you have to do is just pay to download it to the wii and not worry about carrying around and switching and blowing all those game cartridges.... yeah... blowing, like blowing to clean them out.

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# Amen BotherGuest 2007-02-27 05:07
I have bought super mario 64, zeldas, mario kart, ssb, and not to mention sega games and nintendo games. I download and play becuase my oldsystems are broken, and im not paying 100-200 dollars to play them all on the wii - screw you nintnendo - stop overpricing this!

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# OverpricedGuest 2007-02-27 05:15
I do think the VC-games are overpriced. With Zelda it is still arguable because it's one of the best games ever made. But for other N64 titles... I just hope this is not going to be the standard price for N64 titles. Also because it would be very nice if people would get tempted to get to know the less succesfull titles of the N64. Take for instance Blastcorps. A very very good game! It wasn't very succesfull though. I hope a game like this will get the attention it deserves on VC for a fair price. If this game would cost 500 wiipoints people would download it sooner and find out what a wonderful game it is! At least ... I hope :)

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# noGuest 2007-02-27 05:33
VC titles are not overpriced. If this is your only arguement against Wii then it's a poor one. You don't need the old system, you don't need the cart, you don't need to worry about trying to get it to work in you use/old system, you can point and play. Convienices is a real thing and the VC is just that. These games are not overpriced and this argument has been over since the lauch of it. Done set in stone no overpricing anywhere. Get it inbeding in your heads...

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# convenience?...Guest 2007-02-27 05:37
This conveniance sh*t is for lazy people...

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# ...Guest 2007-02-27 05:48
Ok , soy ou can play them free on your PSP or PC.



We in the civilised world invented these things called laws, they are teh general backbone of our society , and they keep our world from us destroying it.



Having any emulated game on your PC is illegal , and a theft of intellectual property.



I@m guessing your a sony fanboy who would take any chnace to diss down a WIi , since sony announced they aren't even fully supporting backwards compatability anymore , where the Wii for a small fee provides it.



Yu probably don't realise , they still have to pay people to program it onto the Virtual console , succesfully make it emulatable by a Wii , among other costs you fanboys don't want revealed to show that they aren't conning anyone who buys the points.

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# Really?Guest 2007-02-27 05:51
Consoles aren't infallable , they lose the quality over time, and the ablity to read games. It's happened to me for every console i've ever owned , From Sega , Nintendo Or Sony.



i'm loving the chance to play the games on the wii, much easier than dragging the old consoles out and spending a long time trying to get them to read the games

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# simmer donnaGuest 2007-02-27 06:38
Like they said on SNL "simmer donna!". I find it quite odd people are griping about spending 5 or 10 bucks on classic games yet dont think twice about spending 40 bucks to fill their car up with gas or 15 bucks to go to a movie with a bag of popcorn. Unless everyone is very poor in which case you should not have a wii, then the thought of spending a few bucks for a good port of a classis is totally doable. Plus, its hella cool to see sonic on a nintendo system; never thought that would happen 10 years ago! So back to the title, Simmer!

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# Stop your yamerinGuest 2007-02-27 07:05
Either you pay for the VC copy or you deal with the inconvenience of Ebay, it's up to you...



My personal opinion is that if you are even considering to play it on the Nintendo 64 then you're obviously a Ninty fanboy or CAG'er...



Ninty doesn't care about the 2nd hand market as there is no money to be made there for them. This "re-release" makes emulators illegal (as it's being re-released and made available new to the public again and not considered abandonware) and also gives the "I don't want to crowd my entertainment system with lots of wires" people the privelage of having one system play 6 game systems worth of games with very little to no modification (meaning sometimes you need the retro controller some times you don't)...



If you are a CAG'er then go find the deals but remember, the only way Ninty can get out of Bankrupt status and you can continue to be a Ninty fanboy is if Ninty is making money and they make NO money off of used or ebay'ed products...

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# Uhmm.. Since when is something from 1999 considered "Retro"Guest 2007-02-27 08:08
Seven years and a few months old, and it's "Retro"?

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# noGuest 2007-02-27 09:19
its worth way more than $10 normally, and the with the VC you don't have the inconveniences of a cart (ie blowing it out, finding it amongst other games, etc.)

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# wait whatGuest 2007-02-27 09:22
"the only way Ninty can get out of Bankrupt status"



First of all ever since the NES Nintendo has never been in the red. Even with N64 and Gamecube Nintendo has made profit off of them. Their handheld market is second to none seeing they have the Number 1 spot with DS and the number 2 spot with GBA. So yeah that comment has no meaning seeing that Nintendo never lost money ever in their history of gaming

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# MY PROB ISNT PRICINGCheckMate0289 2007-02-27 10:09
my problem is those dang wii point cards they should make more 1000 cards where i live. i had to buy a damn 2000 card for 20 freaking dollars and im pissed. all i wanted was ocarina of time. but i called every retail store and no one had any 1000 only 2000 so i was forced to buy mario 64 since well...it was the only other game hat was worth it. cuz we all know any of the other ones you can emulate on your pc. i was surprised to find out thats all nintendo did. (put emulators on the wii) and they need more credit card support. why visa and mastercard only?

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# well actuallyCheckMate0289 2007-02-27 10:28
you have two choices. look for emulators on the net and games on the net for free. or drive to the store (as if you were gonna buy a new game for any system) and get wii points. the conveinence is kinda like lacking. i mean if you wanna talk about legal then thats diffrent. try to find a turbographx with games or any other system that old (other than N64 that ones easy if your near a ebgames or gamestop)so yes this comes in handy then. another thing. you can play ocarina of time the exact way on a gc if you can find a copy at a gamestop or ebgames but once again theres pricing variations there to. the game for gc might be more. when it comes down to it, its what you want to do. personally they could be a little cheaper or atleast have more credit cards or make more wii point options. (in my case more 1000 cards i paid 20 bucks for ocarina of time but i guess super mario 64 was worth the other 1000 :P)

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# yeah but does everyone have a n64?CheckMate0289 2007-02-27 10:32
or is willing to go look for one. or controllers. or a expansion pack. besides the guy below me is right the shipping is also an issue. would you rather spend a few dollars on tax for the wii points or 5 dollars for shipping and not knoing if your really gonna get it. another thing. who said the VC isnt new? lol it is!! just no instructions (which you kinda get in the operations guide)

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# I agree with SushiGuest 2007-02-27 12:14
It is very convenient. Maybe not for you, CheckMate, since you obviously don't own a debit or credit card and have to burn gas and time to buy a points card. It's especially convenient for me because Wii Points bought with a credit card are tax free in my state. I can get 1000 points completely tax free, and buy a ten dollar game for EXACTLY ten dollars, no shipping, no tax, without ever getting off of my lazy duff. I likes dem apples.

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# your choiceGuest 2007-02-27 13:10
don't buy VC games if you think they are overpriced.



i don't have a Nintendo 64 console, and i have never played Ocarina of Time. So for me, $10 is cheap.



No bidding, no waiting. Also, i like having all the games on one console.

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# BLOWING???Guest 2007-02-27 13:38
you don't have to blow n64 carts the system has an auto cleaner built in

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# yea it's overpriced.Guest 2007-02-27 13:52
Considering If you own an xbox you can get all retro titles for free or download the roms for pc. Me personally I have a 64 system with the zeldas and such hot titles. $10 is a bit much. Maybe $5 would of been better since we already paid 250 for the system and other such games how much more they want out of us? We are talking mid to late 90s.

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# ...Guest 2007-02-27 13:55
It was 8 years ago, what year at you at, 2002?

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# price isnt bad for 1st time buydeath69 2007-02-27 14:28
But if you have it already but want to play it on vc so you dont have to pull out the 64 its really not worth it



If you can prove you own a copy you shoudl in turn be able to download it for like 100 pionts 200 tops



But $10 for someone that does not own a copy and does not have a 64 well its is worth it and then some is a great game

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# prices will come down eventuallyGuest 2007-02-27 15:52
Come on. The prices right now are for early adopters. Do you really think you will be paying these prices a year from now?



I think they should have different prices on a per-game basis rather than the same price for every game on a given console. I would definitely pay $5 for a top NES game like Mario or Zelda or Kirby, but $5 for lackluster titles like NES Baseball or Pinball? No way - those should be 99 cents each. At the current prices, I will only buy true classic games that I never owned before. The prices right now are way too high for impulse buying of some game that I already finished or played the hell out of already. But, when the prices come down, I might be tempted to buy games like that just to have for the sake of nostalgia...



Oh, and 10 bucks for Zelda OOT is a steal. That game is amazing.

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# Nintendo is stupidGuest 2007-02-27 16:49
They should make the games cheap. Ive downloaded all my NES games and im never going to pay for one. Maybe if SNES games were around 1 frekin dollar. I can't believe people are actually paying for these when they can get it free on the internet...

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# .Guest 2007-02-27 17:05
I might be able to get a whole kit for 20$ at a garage sale, but at least I don't have to use N64's really bad joystick that uses over time and stresses me out and making me really impatient due to it not responding. Yet I do have the Master Quest disk, but some of the lag like when you save pisses me off and disks can easily get scratched or just not work anymore for some reason. Worth the 10$ for me.

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# It's not so bad...Guest 2007-02-27 18:25
I have slowly been upgrading to VC titles from old ones as they've come out. The funny thing is that I kept my old games, the boxes and manuals in perfect condition while all my friends would laugh and ask why the hell I keep them around. Turns out if you happen to have all that crap you can make a pretty penny on Amazon.com selling them as collectors items. I made 45 on Mario Kart 64 and between 30 and 50 on plenty of other games.



I'm basically upgrading at a profit to the VC titles because I was so particular about my games as a kid!

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# overpricedmajorcrabs 2007-02-27 19:12
yeah they are a little over priced i was thinking that the games should sell more like this

nes 2$

snes 4$

n64 7$

those seem more fair than the other price's imo

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# Re: MY PROB ISNT PRICINGGuest 2007-02-27 21:00
dude, you don't have to get the cards, if you have a credit card, you can just buy the points right off the console...

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# Expensive? Get Lost.Guest 2007-02-28 01:00
"They noted that an average N64 cartridge sells between US$ 7 to US$ 20 in eBay"



Aaaaaaand there you have it. $7 to $20. Fact of the matter is once you factor in shipping even then $7 will make $10. Plus it will be on the ORIGINAL hardware, y'know, 320x240 in interlaced? Instead of 640x480 in progressive scan, or at the very least 640x480 in interlaced. Plus, at a solid 60FPS frame rate instead of the 20FPS you get in the original.



So Sorry, but the $10 is justified.

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# lol?Guest 2007-02-28 02:48
Stop dreaming, The Teej, it's simply an emulator running ROMs of the games, the games don't look any better than they used to...



I love old games and I'm very nostalgic of the good old times, but I still think those VC games are too expensive. If the price was 50-60% of the current price, I think it would be more fair. That's why I'm not gonna buy any of those games. When I visited the VC store for the first time, I felt an urge to buy Super Mario World, but fortunately it wasn't available yet, at that time, so I didn't buy it - and I'm not gonna do it.

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# One thingGuest 2007-02-28 14:29
I think the only thing they need to work in is a trade in system. The prices seem fair to me and really not that bad (Comon, minimum wage is raised to 7.50 here inthe states. Your telling me that to own an official copy of a game for 5 to 10 dollars is too much? one that no matter what it will never die out?) fr what im paying for. I just dont like the fact that once i get a game im stuck with it. Case point? Duengon explorer. I downloaded it cause it had 5 player support plus looked alright. played it once or twice since I got it. Now its just an unused channel on my Wii.



I think one thing that would solve a lot of gripes is a trade in system. I dont like the game? i can trade it in for an amount of Wii points to be used on another game. Or hell, let me swap it at least once for another game. They dont loose money and I dont get upset with a game I regret getting.



Sides, money should never be an issue. If you cant control something that we all use to survive than you shouldnt use it at all. I work, so before i toss money out I think about what im getting. I know I want to spend the 5 bucks on a NES VC game instead of a pack of smokes. If I feel like I need a smoke more than something I can kill time with, I get the smokes. No one is forcing you to buy anything and if you want that game youd work and save for it, If money is that hard for you to get. Priorities kiddies.



If you go through someone and they get pissed cause your dropping 40 bucks a month for games you run through once or twice then thats your problem and no one elses. Calm down son.

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# Overpriced? YesGuest 2007-02-28 23:24
...overpriced for those that have already bought the game. Like many, Ive already coughed up 50 Dollars to Nintendo for the N64 version of Zelda: OOT. Why should I pay them again?

I for one will not be paying a cent for VC titles I already own. Its too easy to download emulators and ROMs these days.

Nintendo, show your loyal customers how important they are to you by giving us 'old games' for free.

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# sort of agreeGuest 2007-03-02 03:10
i agree for the most part, but you should be able to delete it from ur channels if it bugs you that much, and if you ever want it again, you paid for it so it is free to redownload

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