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Large Hadron Collider starts today; help out with LHC@home

Posted Sep 10, 2008 at 9:40AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: Wii, PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Folding@Home, Google, Large Hadron Collider, Linux, Supercomputer

Who says the Science blog is dead? Ok, it's still on hiatus, but thanks to reader trigger, we have this little bit of news for you.

In case you didn't know, the Large Hadron Collider's atom smasher will start today. The first beams will be be starting up, although the first high-energy collisions won't start until next month. In honor of this, Google even has a new theme up, check out their front page logo. I can't stop grinning at it:

Google LHC - Image 1

Now, how would you feel about contributing to the research of the Large Hadron Collider? You know, help destroy the world and everything. I kid. But someday you might be able to contribute to the LHC's research. That part's true.

Evidently, CERN is starting a new project called LHC@home. That ring a bell? Yep, it's like the PlayStation 3's Folding@Home project, except this one analyzes programmes for the LHC. Most of its experiments will require huge amounts of storage, and will produce 15 Petabytes (15 million GB) of data per year, hence the need for this project.

Right now, the appropriate software is still being developed, and it seems it might only be available for PCs. However, the system runs on BOINC, which is supported by Linux, which can be run on the PlayStation 3, Xbox 360, and Wii, so who knows? Maybe they'll port it for use with consoles in the future. Only rightly, seeing as Folding@Home is such a success.

But imagine that, a whole world-wide network acting as one big supercomputer to help with the research of the Large Hadron Collider. Everyone contributing to the end of the world. Hey, I'm kidding, I'm kidding, chill out. Goosefraba and all that.

This one's for everyone who misses the Science blog. That includes me, of course. And a big load of thanks to trigger for the tip!

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Its impossible, there are much more powerful cosmic events happening right know in the universe, and that are even hitting us(not the planet, actual people) and we don't even realize it. It would be almost impossible to create a black hole with this thing and even if one was created it would be so small that it would just fall apart and it would last for all of a nano-second, at most. This furthers man-kind as well, there are plenty of things we don't understand ant this, the LHC, is the next logical step in science and it would help medicine.

# dude above me — flammingcowz 2008-09-10 13:19

the cosmic events happening around us right now cannot penetrate in to the earth without being severely broken up.

DOOMSDAY

# P.S. — flammingcowz 2008-09-10 13:35

this thing is aimed in hopes to finding out the secrets of the universe and how it was created, BUT if we find out all of the secrets of the universe, will that not create a paradox that will kill our universe and re-place it with an even more challenging one?

# "will that not create a paradox that will kill our universe and re-place it with an even more challenging one?" — FreePlay 2008-09-10 14:12

No. Idiot.

# hmm — kraft 2008-09-10 14:16

yeah there are cosmic events happening in the universe now like all the micro blackholes happening but thats just nature.. this is man made.. made by the human race that destroys nature lol.. i really do hope something good comes from this like more evidence of other dimensions and such but you can't deny the fact that something COULD go wrong.

I just don't get how scientists can be so sure about this.. This is the START of quantum physics as we know it, yet all their research is theoretical. when it's done practically that's when theories are confirmed or shot down.

I just don't get how a theoretical understanding of a science we've barely begun to uncover is plausible evidence to guarentee that there's no risk what so ever

besides that though i hope when they actually uncover something good that military or governments won't actually try to keep it to themselves... military technology is always the first to get everything good then we find out about them 30 years later -.-

# No. — FreePlay 2008-09-10 14:38

Wrong.

# HHGG! — purple_cow 2008-09-10 15:52

"BUT if we find out all of the secrets of the universe, will that not create a paradox that will kill our universe and re-place it with an even more challenging one? "

heeey, i see a hitchhiker's guide fan!

it'll be a long time before we uncover the secrets of the universe, not until we are sneezed out by the creator into a giany hanky!

# Possible — Achooist 2008-09-10 17:22

@qwerty, I don't think the main focus of this experiment is a cure for cancer/other sicknesses, but it's likely.

@FreePlay, I usually agree with your short/wonderful comments, but I have to disagree with this one.

This is leaps and bounds for partical beams and could help with killing cancerous cells while avoiding benign cells.

And antimatter is a very mysterious substance, it could do SOMETHING, but I'm not sure on this.

That and...

http://images.encyclopediadramatica.com/images/f/fd/LHC_Gordan_Freeman.jpg

# ... — xxSuiseiseki 2008-09-10 18:12

This is probably gonna sound retarded but....what the hell exactly does this machine do?

# .. — 93pauott 2008-09-10 20:31

it's called "the hadron collider thing" so it crashes hadrons lol

ok, srsly, its a... no its THE BIGGEST particle accelerator in the world, it will make particles collide near the speed of light.

# ... — Matt-N 2008-09-10 23:03

People here are talking about the possibility of the end of the world through the accidental creation of a man-made black hole, and you're concerned about 2 "be's"!?!?

# Thanks freeplay... — GW2 2008-09-11 01:20

took the words right out of my mouth.

# Actaully — soopergooman 2008-09-11 01:50

It makes particles collide AT the speed of light.

Freeplay you haven't changed, still mean to the noobs.

Yes it could cause a micro blackhole but falling apart in a nano second, well it could last longer than that but by that time we would be already through and out the other side, If you did any astral physics in university you would know that it is possible for them to turn our universe inside out. A BlackHole is a BlackHole. Sucks everything in faster than the speed of light(even if it was only around for 1/100000000000 of a second. So um yeah there is the possibility of destroying everything. It's just that the chances of them actually creating a small blackhole is very remote but NOT impossible.

Go read some term papers before you downplay any comments, FREEPLAY.

# interesting options — shabghai360 2008-09-11 01:51

1. email Steve Hawking for advice.

2. discover new dimensions and create a new botany bay for criminals.

3. send in Kurt Russel (the original snake) to save the presidents daughter?

4. have Bond on standby just incase a criminal mastermind finds away to hold the world to ransom.

5. If Bond is unavailable call in Austin Powers.

# Am I crazy — Farnesworth 2008-09-11 02:51

Or have I been contributing to this project for years? LHC@Home has been running on my computer for... geeze, let me look it up. Yep, September 2004.

Perhaps mine is a beta? Or it was contributing to theory and development and there is going to be a new program?

I don't want to come off as one of the many QJ bashers, cause I love the site. But this whole article confuses me a bit.

http://lhcathome.cern.ch/lhcathome/show_user.php?userid=1258

# The end of the world as we know it — death 2008-09-11 04:01

1 thing is for sure this is the end of the world..... as we know it.

things will certainly change either better or worse, but change is guaranteed.

# Well... — Shatterdome 2008-09-11 04:27

I didn't say how long it would last, or how big it would be....fact is even the scientists heading the operation admit to it being a possibility, however very small....

Still....I don't want any size black hole, lasting for any amount of time on the surface of the earth.....if you knew what black holes could do, that would scare you....

# Thank you... — Shatterdome 2008-09-11 04:29

someone with half a brain and some background knowledge.....most people here only have one or the other and try to make up for the lack of the other with bullshiet....

# are we still here? — SolidXnake 2008-09-11 05:12

Oh I thought we were gonna die Or maybe...createAblackhol ethatwouldsucku salltoanalterna tedimensionands eeourself....

Sliders anyone?

# LIVE WEBCAM — death 2008-09-11 05:42

here's a live webcam of the lhc. i leave it running all the time it's good quality http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

# Dude, you can't be serious. — shuaib000 2008-09-11 05:46

Dude, wether you belive it or not.

A human mind does not have the capacity or capbility to understand everything.

For example. I may understand Physics, others might not. However, there is always a level beyond that. There is no end, I mean, I can keep studing sciences one day become a scientist, but EVEN then I will not understand ALL of science.

Science is something we learn, we don not even know the complete mixtures of a cytoplasm. It is beyond our human capabilities. By that, I mean, if we can not even define matter/life, how the DAMN HELL will anyone create a DAMN blackhole?? Really this science is beyond our understanding, so this project is beyond stupidity!!

Serioussslllyyy !!! Know, if this 'Big Bang' Theory was true, then Earth is waaayyyyyyyy toooooo small to carry out this expirement, I mean the 'Big Bang' created the Universe(If that is true). We don't even know how big the universe is, how the hell do CAN ANYONE EVEN THINK it is enough space... A big Bang expirement, would at least need to be a galaxy big.

Science is supposed to be based upon proof, not theory...

It does not explain, how Humans came into being. We might be animals, but we're different, we understand what is right and what is wrong, Animals don't, so I BELIEVE we ARE superior.

Just so you guys know, majority of great scientist believe in God. Einstien was Jew, Isaac Newton was Christian, Muhammed Al-Khwarizmi was Muslim!!

Dude wether you belive me or not, There has to be a God! In Hinduism, who have MILLIONS of idols, even belive in one superior god, who gave his powers to the rest of the gods, Muslims belive in Allah, Christians believe in one God, Jews believe in One god. Buddhists, however I donno 'bout 'em.

Oh yeehh, Chritians and Muslims, make up 55% of the world's population, if I remember correctly.

So is majority is authority, this thing is pointless.. Mann, I can't believe this thing is going to create a black hole blah blah blah. This project is gonna end up a failure disguised as success. There reports might give 'em information, but in the end it will be baseless and useless. EVEN IF they ARE RIGHT, EVEN IF THEY FIND OUT WHAT THEY WANNA KNOW, what is human kind gonna do after that?? I mean, really, once we know 'big bang' ***** what willl we do? This money should have been used for charity in Africa instead... absolute nonsens'ical' bull-trash!

# In other words — shuaib000 2008-09-11 06:03

Some things are better left unsaid. This time it is. Once we solve this mystery, another one will pop out, then, another, nature has no limit, but the brain does. We should live realizing this fact, rather than neglecting it.

# Hopefully — Farnesworth 2008-09-11 06:51

When they get to stage where they toss stuff into the sun to see if it causes the sun to blow up, they will have the presence of mind to do it to another solar system.

So, I sorta agree. I mean, this probably won't do anything. At worst, a big explosion that seriously damages the machine. You know, the scientists at the first A-bomb test had bets on whether it would ignite the atmosphere and lead to total conflageration. It just seems that eventually one of those 1-in-a-million shots will occur.

# eh — 93pauott 2008-09-11 07:20

no, it collides them at 99.999999% of the speed of light.

# . — 93pauott 2008-09-11 07:22

http://www.hasthelhcdestroyedtheearth.com/

# i forgot.. — 93pauott 2008-09-11 07:24

http://www.shacknews.com/images/image-o-matic.x?/images/sshots/Screenshot/10698/10698_48c7161254f4d.jpg

both of theese links is related to the LHC.

# Enough of the Black hole nonsense. :) — Jez 2008-09-11 08:55

Why do some of you get caught up in such media hysteria?

There is asolutely no danger to the Earth from the LHC, absolutely NONE at all.

Even if something which can be considered to be a 'mini Black hole' was created for a moment, it will be impossible for it to do any damage to ANYTHING around it. FACT.

So cast the hollywood image of a swirling black hole consuming everything around it out of your minds, because it's just not going to happen. :)

So I'm all for LHC@home.

# They're too tiny — Canis Lupus 2008-09-11 13:55

If I remember correctly, black holes don't literally "suck". It's there intense gravity that pulls things in. How much gravity do you think a very very very small black hole created by two protons colliding will have? These are professional physicists. They know what they're doing. They say even if they're produced, they'll like evaporate as fast as they're created.

# http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html — Achooist 2008-09-11 16:52

http://www.cyriak.co.uk/lhc/lhc-webcams.html

Live LHC webcam.

I've been watching it for a while, it's really cool.

# Big-Bang Theory according to Islam. — shuaib000 2008-09-11 22:05

If anyone is intrested, you can give it a read.

I was kind of annoyed with this idiotic expirement, I asked my dad about it, he told me that the Big-Bang theory has been described in the Quran(Yeh I'm Muslim), so I was stunned, I never knew about that, so, I decided to read about it.

Well, I'm suprised it has been described, I explained more than I needed to know. It confirmed (to me atleast :P) that Big Bang theory is right, even though I never believed in it before. :S

# OH I forgot... — shuaib000 2008-09-11 22:09

Link: http://www.creationofuniverse.com/html/bigbang_01.html

# Hmmm, so to be negative... — Jez 2008-09-12 05:53

... because it's great that you accept the Big Bang theory, but the claim that it was described in the Quran really doesn't hold up.

What we're seeing is the same kind of thing we see with Nostradamus' predictions, where his words are re-interpreted to fit in the facts. In otherwords, an event happens and THEN people find a sentence where Nostradamus was suppose to have predicted the event.

Hence parts of the Quran are being 'carefully' selected on the basis that they appear to support the Big Bang theory.

Again, sorry to be negative. :|

# BOOO — death 2008-09-16 06:16

you stole my post jerkwad

# Eeeerm... — cannibaltroglodyte 2008-09-26 04:45

"A big Bang expirement, would at least need to be a galaxy big." Actually the big bang was minute...

First Post Yay!

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