that is a big pile of poo on a stick, the wii aint powerful enough to power a camera

So, your example is the eye toy? One of the most failed assessories of the console? The eye toy is as favorable as the Wii Mic.



Motion control via camera has failed in the past and will continue to fail. People (360 fanboys) cry like babies over how much movment the Wiimote creates yet these same babies are happier then shlt to move around EVEN MORE for a camera?



Think about it a little longer and you'll see WHY Nintendo rejected it. They rejected it for the same reason MOST devs reject the eye toy.

where the hell did Eyetoy fail? Last time I checked the sales they were at 10.5 miilion units worldwide. (taken from Wikipedia).That means nearly 10% of all PS2 onwers have one. I agree with the rest though.

"The Simpsons Already Did It"



Another topic on who did it first doesn't really matter. Anyway, just watch South Park episode above. LOL. Anyway, all their accessories and concepts are promising. Let's just wait and see how it goes once it's release. So far the motion sensor that hasn't failed IMHO is the wiimote. It's actually awesome especially that most games that uses it integrates the motion sensing capabilities pretty well, especially their sports titles and others.



All in all it's just that it is innovative and some people were skeptical about it before it was released. Either it was going to be a failure or a winner, and it won. And guess what, people actually welcomed the motion sensing capability of the wii and it's remote.



So, hopefully these new technologies that Microsoft and Sony introduced during E3 won't be a disappointment. Again, let's just wait and see 'til it's launch date or release. Being skeptical is just normal since it's somewhat new or already done but a failed attempt. That is of course disregarding the fanboyisms around here.

Some people are thinking its just a camera... However if anyone actually watched the E3 demo for this tech they would know its much more than that.



I know I wouldn't mind getting this when it actually arrives in stores because I already have the PlayStation Eye (which is the real name for it, not sure why everyone keeps calling it the eyetoy).

Hey everybody!! Nintendo is kicking our asses..... lets follow what they're doing.



the next leap in gaming, will once again be done by nintendo. everyone will call them crazy, only to follow them again shortly after.



nuttin wrong wit being a sony fanboy, or a 360 fanboy. but just remember to show ur respect to nintendo, from the d-pad, to the shoulder buttons, to the thumbstick, to the rumble feature, the list goes on.

As Keith K mentioned, the Wii remote is also camera based.



There's an infrared camera built into the end of each remote controller!!! The sensor bar isn't actually a sensor at all, but a series of 10 infrared LEDs, which the wiimote camera 'sees' and uses to detect movement. Sony's solution is the reverse, with the camera fixed near the TV and lights on the end of the remote which is used to detect movement.



So to summarize, Wii has lights by the TV and a camera in each controller, Sony has a camera by the TV and a light on each controller.



I'm sure a Natal like control scheme is something Nintendo considered before deciding on the Wii remote, but the technology probably wasn't good enough at the time, or it was too expensive, and therefore not practical for a console.

yeah ok no great games but it isn't "one of the most failed assessories of the console". and the games weren't meant for me or you they were for younger players and it sold well with them. PS3Eye on the other hand has Eye pet with looks amazing and now the remote thingy

pointing the camera down for eye of judgement is different to having it look straight at you, it is designed for a light source over head (like an eye) not behind it that's why it does that

Go to your camera and turn it around... Tell me what it says.. It says PLAYSTATION Eye, not Eyetoy.

Eyetoy + ps2

Playstation Eye + ps3

Well there is probably some truth to that....obviously Wii can run a camera....but it probably isn't powerful enough to do all the the advanced image recognition and motion detection and still have any power left over to run a game....probably why Nintendo ditched the idea...

Nice job going around dissing technology more advanced then yours Nintendo! (And ***** you for the WiiMotion Plus ***** you're pulling on us now)



The thing that's different for Natal is that it has depth sensing via a IR camera. This is way better than the Eyetoy and allows true tracking of the human body.

PS Eye does NOT do 3D motion tracking.



And you forgot stereo mic. Gees!

i think we all know that the PS3's cam is called the PS eye and not called the Eyetoy like on the PS2's cam BUT i think when people talk about the PS3 eyetoy they just mean it's still just a toy for the PS3, Well that's how i see it anyways.



BUT i still love my PS3 eye as i use it On my computer, And for a Webcam it's not half bad and the cost is low for how good it is.

Actually the PS Eye has a 4 microphone array...so it can recognize positional audio and do noise cancelling...

I still prefer the Namco lazer guns for PS1, Point Blank was a fun game to play with friends.

ok it doesn't do full 3D without a 2nd camera but it can do head tracking in a 3D space. it can detect tilt in a game like eye of judgment in a game like eye pet tilting the camera downward for depth allows the pet to dodge a rolling ball or arm swipe. however you should check out the old Ps3 eyetoy game videos http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+ZwwbkzEACws+feature+related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+YDzXqK4fh-A

I certainly respect Nintendo of old. Loved the NES, SNES and Gameboy. Nearly everything since just after the SNES era has made me grow to dislike Nintendo more and more.

Nintendo has better marketing and Nintendo is marketing towards "those-who-dont-have-consoles".



Sony/MS only have those who already own the console to market to, i do think the motion tech from Sony/MS looks good but its not going to make anyone buy a PS3/360 purely because of it. Its going to be cool from what i've seen, those who dont have a PS3/360 probably wont care. I mean, i'll probably pick up the new accessories for my consoles but the next person thinking about buying a Wii wont think "oh.. what about 360's new motion thingy?". This isn't going to impact Wii's console sales much.

I'm typing in a 3D space, does that mean my computer is 3D?



Like I said, PS Eye does NOT do 3D.

They gave us back lit handheld system with awesome graphics for the time, and 3d games! not 3d in the normal sense, but 3d pop out of the screen like movies coming out these days and like sony said they will do. god bless sega (consoles)...may they rest in peace...

Although there a not many details regarding Sony new remote controller, it's likely to be using the tech mentioned in that patent, i.e sonar.



Therefore the camara will detect the controller's position up/down and left/right, whilst sonar will detect the controller's distance from the camera.



Regarding Natal, you're right to be skeptical of that promotional video Miclowgunman, as we should of all such videos. However, there were live demonstrations of Natal on stage, and there have been many hands-on reports at E3 from those who tried it for themselves. Hence it does seem to be the 'real deal'.

You obviously misunderstood the question. Which does not suprise me.

burn.

I have Played ALL of them games and the Ration times of the wiimote is the Same.

-Slow

-Not Accurate

-non responsive (at times)



It's not about me Sucking as the games are TO EASY, yea you can beat a game just by waving the damn thing anyway you like and Win.

I don't think people realize yet how much draw backs Natal has. Simple things like playing in the dark.... you cant, i do it with the wii all the time.

Wrong again douche bag!!!!



Nintendo bought a PART from a another company. They did NOT buy the Wiimote from another company.



Do you also cry like a baby when Ford buys tires from Goodyear?



GTFO with your BS. Your lies do not work here.

I don't even have to try anymore. You make youself look like a douche bag all on your own.

You once again failed to actually talk about the above comments.



Nothing I said was a lie. Countless people call the Wiimote a gimmick and make fun of having to move ARMS yet the SAME PEOPLE are praising this.



Try again douche bag. Actually address the comments you are replying to or continue to be called a TROLL.