Harmonix: Guitar Hero music studio too restricting |
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During a recent press event, Dan Teasdale, the lead designer for Rock Band 2 (Xbox 360, PS3, Wii, PS2), was asked about the music studio feature included with Guitar Hero: World Tour (Xbox 360, PS2, PS3, and Wii):
We've dabbled around with stuff like that before, with Frequency and Amplitude, and we learned a lot of lessons from it, the main one is that you can't do it half-arsed. If you want to do a way to let players create and distribute music, you have to go all-in - not just do it as a bullet on the back of a box.
He declared that his plans for the Rock Band franchise aims at making music sharing "an authentic experience." While he wants people to be able to freely create music and express themselves, he also wanted to be sure that the same people know what they're doing and not be tied to some "dodgy sample."
That sounds like a challenge, Mister Teasdale.
Now, normally I'd have a thing or two to say about being so critical about a feature that you've yet to put in your game but with "Cerulean City" from Pokemon once enjoying the top spot in Guitar Hero: World Tour's top 50 custom songs list... I think I'll keep my peace for now.
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Ya there just mad they didn't think of it first and that there devs aren't smart enough to pull it off. don't worry t will be in the next RB. EA can't go for long w/ out copying there biggest rival. GH4 is way better then rock band anyways.
Yeah, with it's gameplay derived straight from RB1, and a music studio system that doesn't even let you record vocals. How about the great design decision to make it so that when one person in the band fails, everyone fails instantly with him?
It's not EA copying anything to begin with. EA just helps Harmonix license some of the tracks and EA just distributes the game. Harmonix develops it.
How weren't they "smart enough" to pull it off? No one asked for it in RB2, so they didn't include it. Plus, like he said in the article, Harmonix already had two games where you make your own remixes, and it was actually fun. They were called Frequency and Amplitude. You just couldn't publish your custom tunes.
So yeah, learn your ***** before you make dumbass comments like that.
Well considering that RB is basically copying GH from the start anways GH4 doesn't really copy anthing. In your case of EA jst vaking up harmonix thats s true but do I ever see t say Neversofts GH. no it's always activision. activision owns neversoft the developer of GH and EA owns Harmonix. there fore I said EA. now as far as that rythm thing it's not the same thing. did amplitude or frequency have a drum kit, Gutar? NO t was based solely on singing and what not. GH4 s an all around thing. EA is always ripping off Activisions ***** then giving there games crappy tites year after year because they don't have creativity. You have GH legends of rock, Guitar Hero world tour, etc. EA comes up w/ what RB1, RB2, let me guess the next one is going to be RB3, wow how original. same w/ madden hey same game we'll just add a new year to the title. EGAY is lame, unoriginal, and a bunch of copycats. RB sucks and the're just mad they couldn't figure out the create your own track first. I would love to see them make RB3 (there 3rd itteration of the game VS's Neversofts first attempt at a band game.) have a better music generator, have all the custmization GH4 has, and still delver as man tracks and be as good. I mean hell Nevesoft was smart enough to have symbols on a *****ing drum kit. whats a drm setup w/ out symbols. now go spell your name right then come back and try to insult me. I know my ***** I have websites about video games and I get video games for free.
I might be wrong so don't go all johnny storm "flame on" on me but how can you say gh copies rockband or rockband copies gh. From my understanding wasn't it Harmonix that made quitar hero 1 and 2? then they made rockband under a different publisher (EA) but since activision owned the gh name they made more guitar heros with a different developer so its hard to say who copies who but either way competition makes better products so while i myself own rockband 2 im glad theres gh so that they keep moving forward with the genre
How can you say rock band is better when they can't even get mastered tracks for songs with the help a huge rich game company like IA? And vocals will never probably be added with a music studio because there is no protection against using copyrighted lyrics. DUH! Also, RB actually had to wait for guitar hero 4 just to get online play which was already made for gh3! and they waited for DLC, and symbols for the drums!
Harmonix can't get master tracks? EVERY SINGLE SONG in Rock Band 2 was master track. Just wow, you call me stupid but you really didn't know all the songs were masters?
Um, Rock Band 1 had online play and it came out like one month after GH3. Online play was planned for Gh2 on Xbox 360 btw, so don't come up here with "zomg RB copied wah wah"
Who waited for DLC? Ever since the release of Rock Band 1, Rock Band 1/2 has received downloadable songs EVERY week as opposed to GH3/Gh4's DLC coming every few months or so.
Oh, btw. Ion Drum Kit. Research it.
kthxbai
I spelled moron wrong? I never even used the word to begin with, and if that was supposed to be some crack on my account name, it was very poorly conceived. Naroon and moron don't even rhyme. Pathetic little mind you have, huh? XD
Did you forget that Harmonix created GH1, Gh2, and GH Rocks the 80s? Harmonix makes Rock Band under a different publisher, idiot. If it weren't for them, GH wouldn't exist.
Amplitude and Frequency weren't based on "singing". There was no microphone or anything used in those games. All you did was basically remix/play the songs.
EA and Activision have nothing to do with the development and creative process of GH and RB to begin with, besides telling them about expansions and whatnot. Activison distributes GH, and EA distributes RB. No rocket science involved in that.
And what do you mean, "have all the customization that GH4 has"?? Rock Band 1 and 2 have extremely deep character, band logo, face paint, and art customizers to use. It's very evident that you've never even played Rock Band. You're a completely idiotic Guitar Hero fanboy who doesn't even know the history of RB or GH.
Naming the games? GH3 Legends of Rock still had a "three" in it, which is why we all call it GH3. Last time I checked, the name of a game had nothing to do with the quality of the game. And once again, EA isn't behind the title of the game, the DEVELOPER is, and that's HARMONIX.
No, you DON'T know your crap. You know NOTHING, as evidenced your idiotic post here. The Rock Band 2 kit has support for cymbals too, jackass.
And for the record, Harmonix discussed a music creator before they even knew GH4 was gonna have one. They said that they would have one eventually, but not unless it was done right, unlike GH4's.
"And vocals will never probably be added with a music studio because there is no protection against using copyrighted lyrics. DUH!"
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So how are GH keeping copywritten material out of the notes, a program that knows every copywritten song in existance and magicly erases any summited copywritten material, even if it is remixed?
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Also just a question...If the guitarist is a Guitar Hero...What is the drummer? Back-up dude?
Harmonix and redoctane made the first couple GH games. then they split up and Activision grabbed Harmonix and EGAY grabbed redoctane.
Actually I am pretty board w/ the GH series, Like madden and RB it's basically the same ***** every year. Except GH4 actually brought something new to there table. the're both just series that the bg companes are going to run into the ground. I didn't say that RB didn't have customization. what I said was lets see them add a decent music creator and still have all that customization and a decent track list. Yes RB2 might have symbol support but they saw that GH4 was going to have it and was like oh ***** we should do that. All I am sayoing is that EA who owns redoctane is always copying other peoples stuff. Neversoft might be the develper and harmonx might be the developer bt there owned by bigger companies. the bigger companiues EA and Activision have all the say to what goes into the game. they just have the developers do the actual work.
vice versa. EA grabbed Harmonix and Actvision grabbed redoctane.
Red Octane still didn't make the game. They just made the instruments FOR the games. Neversoft, a company already owned by Activision, now develops GH.
EA DOES NOT own Red Octane! And no, Harmonix didn't add cymbals because they saw Neversoft do it. First off, with the Rock Band 2 drums, they don't come with the drums. Third party companies make them and you buy em separately. If Harmonix "copied" off of them, the cymbals would be mandatory and come with kit, but they dont.
And no. Harmonix and Neverosft decide what goes into their games. The publishers have a little say, but not much.
They're both good. I enjoy both of them. But I'm tired of people saying that the new Guitar Hero is the same as Rock Band. Sure, it's obvious that Guitar Hero now has all instruments. But their bass is actually FUN to play, with the addition of the low E string. They're drums are more accurate, and their main guitar parts have been improved. Not to mention the slider on their guitars is so kicka$$ it made me almost ***** bricks. They're both good. But as far as the music creator, it's a nice start, but it's not all that great.