Glenn Entis of EA: beware unrealistic graphics (like Final Fantasy) |
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Better graphics isn't enough. If you just increase the polygons, you will end up with better-looking characters, but that doesn't mean they'll look more "realistic." You need to improve the motion physics. And you also need to improve gameplay.This is the point made by Glenn Entis, Academy-Award-winning senior VP and chief visual and technical officer for EA games (he was formerly CEO from Dreamworks Interactive). At the Montreal Games Summit, he used Final Fantasy as an example:
In Final Fantasy, the modelling fidelity was really better than the motion fidelity. In other words, when you looked at the models, they signalled an expectation to the audience that the motion couldn't deliver upon.
Alert the Final Fantasy fandom...
...and let the carnage commence.
An EA VP has dissed Final Fantasy for having unrealistic graphics. We can just imagine the chaos this is causing in RPG forums everywhere.
EA, on the other hand, has been hard at work to not only make characters photo-realistic, they're also making them move realistically. An example of how EA is achieving realism, according to Entis, is Tiger Woods PGA Tour (for the PC, Wii, Xbox 360, PSP, and PS3). Entis has proof that Tiger Woods PGA Tour has achieved realism: Tiger Woods couldn't tell he was looking at computer graphics.
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It'll be then end of the road when Square needs leesons on motion capturing from EA *****e. Have they seen FF7 Advent Children?
man. EA games needs to stop bashing on games, first gears of war now this screw EA games
Here I am free to say what I couldn't say in the article. Here I am free to be sarcastic. And nasty. Notice that he compares Final Fantasy and Tiger Woods PGA Tour. Wow. Yeah. Whatev. LOL
Dam bastard thinks FF graphics don't deliver eh? Obviously he's too busy playing the first one to take a look at the latest installment. VP: "The character's are sprites!" Yeah no *****, your so f'ing old your still playing it on your SNES. How 'bout you put on your coke bottle glasses and take a look at what square is coming out with now. Helluva lot better than your Tiger Woods crap. *End rant*
Who cares about realistic motion in freakin Tiger Woods. First spyware in BF2142, now this. Guess my boycott of EA will continue a while longer... FF games are the s***
Looks like Square isnt going be letting EA use their White Engine anytime soon now huh? Good move EA. First you take away baseball and release crap like Madden 07 and now youve lost all chances of real time rendered CGI games. I dont know how you guys even made it this far.
LOL OKAY EA, take a look at madden? they run like they shyated themselves and never learned how to walk correctly. ST FU EA, EA is the worst milking company EVAR!!1!
"Entis has proof that Tiger Woods PGA Tour has achieved realism: Tiger Woods couldn't tell he was looking at computer graphics." No, you have proof that Tiger Woods is a sellout whore... who needs glasses. Seriously who are EA trying to fool ?
Final "*****asy" What a lame game...ha ha let me guess you play World of warcraft too....HA HA HA HA
what i dont get is how ea, the game company that is infamous for no inovation and a vicious pursuer of your money, can say that one of the biggest franchises out there is doing something that isn't as good as theirs.
I can't say either that he is right or wrong. I've only player final fantasy tactics, 7 and 8. He did diss like half the video gamer population though. I can see where he is going, but comparing a "GOLF" game to an rpg is "unrealistic". I mean, golfers on video games have preset motions, rpg games, you can do a lot. I more on he is wrong but I can see where he is going even though EA is going on a sucky streak.
FF games are unrealistic... In the way that it brings a whole new world to the audience.. But they still look great... Who wants another "Realistic" piece of crap from EA anyways? Is this when we diss EA for games like the ones he mentioned to be too realistic and no fun? - or do we mention Burnout and say its not realistic and the cars run like rubbish? - or do we go onto say that all EA racing games now are rubbish cos they all feature Catch-up which isnt realistic motion? The Evil EA :-p suck my balls
EA is just jealous that SQUARE and ENIX (SQUARE ENIX) are doing good in the market right now, than when EA were partners with SQUARE, (SQUARE EA). THE ONLY GOOD GAME I remember you guys having, (That was an rpg), was the Final Fantasy 8 project. Might I add that sole developer of Square (Hinorubu Sakaguchi) didnt really need EA, considering that EA half-assed themselves while teaming up with the king of rpg games. EA, u had your chance. Stay making sports games rather than trying something that you CANNOT come close to perfecting.
Unrealistic as in... something not real, or fake. Like the graphics in the screenshots of EA's NFS: Carbon. Tell me WHERE in the whole darn game do the wheels blur out like they used to show off in the screenshots? Also are the graphics as crisp? I don't think so. Although they went one step ahead!!! They show off .. Unrealistic gameplay, when they used to show the trailers of the Canyon races, the tires were to the ground as hot butter was to a glass shape, slide away! But can you actually do that in canyon races? I do NOT think so. The cars actually stick to the ground as much as their tires' grip allows to. So here's some advice for you EA... These games, might have unrealistic graphics, according to REAL Life objects, which just makes them even MORE original. BUT They do comply to what they promise on early screenshots and don't cut the work later on... as in... they're realistic in terms of objectives and showing off. ;) Just a tip before EA goes around criticising every game without any ideas of what the hell they're talking about.
I have to agree with you playero_lf that, when EA teamed up with square that they did halfass the final fantasy 8 project. Hell, it didnt even feel like they had anything to do with that project. I also have to agree that Hinorubu Sakaguchi was THE BEST DEVELOPER EVER to grace the RPG industry!!!!
Please find better posters. The quote above clearly shows that he acknowledges FF as having GREAT graphics. He is only talking about motion not being AS GREAT.
first with GoW, and now final fantasy. wtf is wrong with them... just cause they cant make good enough games when compared to epic and square enix, doesnt mean they can go on f**kin dessin them. adn besides Gow and the FF series have some of the best graphics that i have ever seen in gamessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F U EAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
It's amazing how the realism is all that EA has to focus on really when it makes its sports games, and they still don't have amazing improvents year to year or anything. Square Enix brings us great graphics, great story, and great gameplay. Basically I'd like to have EA write a best selling novel while they make their game so they know what that aspect of games is like. Square Enix has more to do on its plate than just reuse and touch up on what they used in their last game. If EA was gone tomorrow... I wouldn't miss them.
Serisously. Ive never heard of dragons, fireballs shooting out of hands, or fighting while jumping huge distances (okay, i have in old chinese moves, but that isnt real). Yet, Advent Children manages to convey realistic view of those crazy stunts that are impossible in real life. Also, in the latest FF, i dont see anymore akward movements, yet there are tons of monsters and creatures that dont exist in this world. Man, the ability to make unreal creatures animate fluidly already puts the animators in those studios better than just motion capturing.
Yeah an ex-Dreamworks Interactive exec that great and realistic company that created 'Goosebumps: Escape from Horrorland' and 'T'ai Fu: Wrath of the Tiger.' Real realistic there buddy! I see about as much realism in Hot Shot Golf as in Tiger Woods. Also if EA ever makes a game half as beautiful as a FF game then I'll crap my knickers and think the world has truly come to an end. Stick with sports fat-head and leave fantasy to the professionals. Thank goodness Square dropped EA when it partnered with Enix.
...We all know reality has a well-established liberal bias. Well, this was obviously the non-story of the week. EA are arrogant bastards, we already knew that. We also know Final Fantasy isn't really striving for realism per se.
I hate EA! But his point is motion is as important as polygon count and textures. He's right , quit being idiots.
***** that guy, square-enix rule's when it come's to graphic's and cgi,look at ff7: ad,look at ff13!!! *****!!!
Damn why doesn't EA just STFU and take their own advice. Looks like they just trying to excuse themselves for their own lack of innovation and just adding polygons to their top tier games. What, hit stick was that damn innovative that it took a year to develop and they couldn't do anything else? They just need to STFU and gamers need to keep bringing the heat under their asses because they don't give a ***** as long as they got millions of dumbasses still buying their products. List of EA ports (games that are just re-branded and tweaked) Madden 07 NBA Live 07 NFS Carbon Tiger Woods 07 Battlefield 2142 Fight Night
Insulting, arrogant, stupid, false, there are not enough words in the english language to describe this Glenn Entis #$@er. Play final fantasy 12, then play any EA game. EA half-asses everything they do, and the only decent games they ever made were by developers that they bought out instead of competing with. For my part, I will NEVER EVER buy another game made by EA again.
None of the above posters (or at least the competent ones) have argued against the importance of fluid motion in videogames. So don't get all high and mighty douche on them. However as many of them have said EA's games are for the most part based on real life activities, whereas sqare|enix has to contend with making a Fantasy word seem somewhat realistic while including fictional beings and physics into their games. So until s|e gets full life dragons/fairies/ogres/moogles etc. into their studio and riged for mo-cap they will always be at a disadvantage. (and have overcome these challenges quite well imo)
...that is the worst example ever. EA games are by no means achieving the very thing he claims to. I would even argue that Final Fantasy does a much better job than almost any EA game.
I'm sorry guy, but using FF as an example was bad. If you look in its name "final FANTASY" you will see notice... well in this case, I guess you were to ignorant to notice "FANTASY" meaning 3. a mental image, esp. when unreal or fantastic; vision: a nightmare fantasy. why do they want to focus on making look realist? ITS A FANTASY GAME and I hope they will keep it that way.
well dont poke a tiger in the eye and expect him to just pack up and leave. In (sone of the old)honesty f.f titles are a little on the robotic but since 10 and evin noiticable on 9 they have tried to inprove on it. and I wouldnt have final fantasy any other way. Its called Fantasy so it infers well fantasy so if u thinks fantasy aint real enough for you then go play Golf and leave my games alone/\. Final fantsy titles dont bug me as mch as the contrlols for resident evil and metal gear. Not that hard to get use to bt still just a little annoying. Besides if they make everyhtign perfect now what are we gonna look forward to?. well u didnt say nithin to bad bt mch like the others are saying compared to madden and other ea titles............. I dont lay games to compare to reality i play to escape reality.
i aint disregarding his sayings just saying if your gonna point ur finger it had better be among a couple others in a morror reflecting r self and sorry for my typoes above
HE'S TALKING ABOUT FINAL FANTASY: THE SPIRITS WITHIN. Just so you know. The models eclipsed the motion capture animation so it looked weird and people failed to accept it. On that note, EA reps need to stop criticizing everything and improve on their own games.
Creating art is WAY better, cool, greater, original, special, beautifull, perfect then simply trying to "copy" something wrong ( the human body is NOT perfect, it's crappy, and the final fantasy characters are perfect, beautifull, that's art ). EA is one of the worst company, with an ultimate lack of imagination. They almost only do sports game, wich is easy, you just have to upgrade the graphics in terms of "copying the human body". EA, glenn entis, please kill yourself fo being so an imbecile who said openly that he hate art for being "unrealistic". What sort of imbeciles could say something like that.. It's because of this kind of limited-mind that video games are not fully accepted as art...
So what if Tiger woods has great graphix it still sucks as a game . Final fantasy is one hell of a game even with shocking graphix. Who gives a damn about graphix if the game is poor ???
HENCE THE NAME "FINAL FANTASY"...
its still final FANTASY
well now i know but i think my responce still applies true bt with every new idea comes different results so like i said quit being like bush and pointing the finger at how others are living as a kind of comparison to us and just worry about how ur gonna improve how r gonna exceed the neeed. and on that note im gonna go watch final fantasy. ha not to be ***** but i bet you wer the kid in school that when he got in trouble he ratted ot on theres so he could get out of it. if u think that this is a problem, dilemma, then dont bash work on it and dont be a statistic. long live the r.a.r (resistance. against. reatards). no offence to any mentally disabled people viewind this page. or any of u just plain dummies im sorry that you annoy me so, but these retarded acts need to go.
I spent the last 2 weeks playing FF12 .. not EA's stupid sports games.
again sorry for my urgiency in my wrighting making my respnce almost illegable
He's talking about physics and game play directly. If you want to hear $h|t talk about graphics then hop over to the 360 forums and read what the other EA lackey had to say about Gears of War. Seriously, why are these boobs appearing to talk about games that aren't in direct competition with them--cause you know, EA can't buy out what doesn't exist i.e., imagination-- maybe if they would spend more time fixing bugs in half-baked ports than giving speeches about what others should work on. It's great seeing someone making Sony mistakes, but unlike Sony, we all got something in common to hate on. Screw it up yer ass EA, your name is officially "Electronic Ass".
is that ea have done well here theyve picked the worst example and one of their own worst games to compare with, how many people before have questioned the movement of players in fifa,nba(which is really bad),battlefield ad the like, they are all terrible games and this guy deserves to be fired by ea,if they have any sense(which i doubt 100%) but how many people, i mean seriously here, just how many gamers have commented on the 'way the characters arms move when they get the special moves' in ff8 or the like, i have never seen any, at all and i hope to god that this guy can come back to us with an apology, and maybe some better games...
these guys did do Lord of the Rings...and they still mangaged to ***** it up. You're right! Burn them to hell!
EA strikes again with their ignorance stick. Ok, let me get this straight. EA, is saying that the future is in REALISTIC games? Like in their sports titles? Ok, so if realistic games are to be the future and/or are the best, does that mean that all these games are wrong?; -Zelda -Mario -Final Fantasy -Fable -Devil May Cry -Kirby -DBZ -Pokémon -Katamari ... everything that isn't EA Ok, that's it, why won't EA just shut up? I mean, I've seen Cliffy B say he admired Kojima, I've seen Kojima say he liked Miyamoto, I've seen countless game developpers say that they inspired themselves of others, and THAT makes good games. The industry doesn't need a bunch of smart ass wanna be's to dictate what's good and what's not. really EA check the ratings of your games and see how much you suck for yourself. Seriously NHL 07 was my last purchase of you, you stupid retards. I advice everyone to skip their titles too. (not only because they are arrogant and stupid but because they take your money for *****ty products and then fire their employees.) The Frenchman(An angry gamer who is tired of seeing the same bull***** fed to the public.)
***** EA FF Games may not have next-gen graphics but they are STILL better than tigerwoods and NFS: Carbon
Isn't FF a fantasy based game. Who wants realism? When is the last time that I read that EA Baseball sold 1 million, 1/5 mil or even 1/4 mil copies lately? I love the silence.
this is an idiot talkin the comment he made is a load of bull how can u compare an EA game to Square especially final fantasy what a way to compare and pick a fight das a bunch of bs his proof is photo realism and moveing realistically das a bunch of crap if square decided to put real people into a final fantasy game photo realism is an easy move for them and i bet it would be beyond compare to tiger woods but square has achieved that realism and graphic quality without the use of real people and photo capturing pretty damn impressive to me the guy is an idiot das all i gotta say i rarely commeny on qj but this jus cant go without sayin something
This *****ty man havent't realised that graphics aren't most important thing. Final Fantasy games are fantastic games, this means that they don´t need to have that hyper realistic aspect, in others things because, you doesn't put your attention to the game. Go to sell your bull***** and leave alone real good games. Sorry 4 bad english. PD: really don't see what so unlealistic things see that man in final fantasy games.
Anday23 that was the PC version that they screenshotted, so get off that damn console (unless you mean PSP, in that case you should've definetly known better) and join the PC gamers.
EA needs to STFU
Ladies and gentlemen......this is just an example of how far a moron would go to gain more sales of their video games and as well as more money. I hope that "EA"( we own everything) doesnt go to far with this realism they talking about..... if they add too much realism it'll go to the point that the character would choke too and so much other crap....
He's right........................................................................................................... he needs to add more realism to his face...hes hideous he should render his face in real time graphics to have a better face
but Final Fantasy Games have Awesome Animation and I bet you haven't played a single Final Fantasy game let alone have watched a Final Fantasy Movie.
Sport-game graphics suck. The characters move slowly and over-dramatically, and the skin looks like plastic.
he's just jealous of ff lol
your brain needs a major surgery ;)
The whole point of games in to get away from reality. I dont want to play a fantasy game which is based completely in reality.
He has no room to talk about that movie. Compared to today's standards, it's a tad outdated; but when it came out, it was ahead of it's time. Besides, what the hell was he coming out with at that time that could remotely compare? Nothing.
Fluid motion is important, but look at what Advent Children did. They not only created models that might have been real people if you freeze the screen at certain times, but also amazing motion of impossible stunts that look like they could be real. For the franchise, motion capturing may work well in movies, but in a video game, where many options are availible, motion capturing doesnt work as well as custom animation that works well in all areas. EA seriously isnt that great of a company, though they do pump out a few good games once in a while.
I knew that clicking on the comments would bring up a ton of "OMG FINAL FANTASY"
Final Fantasy games have great visuals....in the video sequenses....but overall they don't have any better graphics than the original SNES!...I mean C'mon ppl, you should want more than just a few pretty pictures and alot of glamorous light shows in games. What is with the story line anyway=stupid anime crap!
yeah, I'm pretty sure the screen shots you are refering to are for xbox360 and ps3, and I doubt you have either of those to compare graphics to. Graphics aren't the point anyway, the motion of the characters is. Get it right idiot before you start ranting, yes we know you love FF games unconditionally.
Anyone who buys the same more than once is a total kiss ass. Just look at all these posts defending the graphics, thats not the point of the article, it was about motion realism. ALL YOU PEOPLE ARE KISS ASSES!!!!
ea has no room to talk until they can start making games worth playing....honestly ea has YET to put out a game id buy.....they and tiger woods can go friggin die stfu ea Final Fantasy will always be better than all the games uve released together....idiots
I really have no comment on this... But I will comment on the fact that you don't diss the series of games with the largest fricken fanbase/collection of rabid fanboys without fearing for your life! Ahaha! PS. Yes, Final Fantasy is good.
Lets wonder and think of the stuff EA made that was good Road Rash 1-3 Desert Strike Deluxe Paint series *3+4 Need For Speed 1-3 all old- oldish games eh? I wonder how many licenses they brought out and they managed to screw em up... now lemme see COMMAND AND CONQUER- They screwed up Westwood! Ever since Tib Sun its been getting worse and worse- DAMN THEM ALL TO HELL! definately more but Im bored typing
I don't see why Final Fantasy shouldn't have realistic graphics, as it's about all that the series has. No real gameplay to speak of, FFXII plays itself.
LOL larn 2 speil dunmbssa OK? OK
EA keeps messing up lately with their smart ass remarks..completely lost my support on their games.
z0mG!! i cAnt bElIeVe theY DiSsed fInAl FantAsY!! TiS liKE De BeSt gAmE EVVVUUUUUURR!!! !#$*$# no0obs!! just kidding ;) , never even played final fantasy
this has gotta be a joke. EA games dont have good physics compared to many other games.
EA is a band of jerks, who don't know how to produce good games anymore. Sorry but the annual releasos of their FIFA, NHL, NBA combined with mainstream titles licensed from movies, comics etc. are crap. Where are any innovative and original titles? There were some, which were produced by non-EA studios published by EA, which naturaly didn't have the hype by EA, but they did better than the EA titles. (Burnout 3). EA should think first, talk later.
this is the funniest post ive seen. AHAHAAH.remder his face in real time graphics. yeah this guy is just looking for attention i have neverheard of him until now.
He's just jealous.I mean...EA is the biggest milking company in videogame-industry...who needs another nfs carbon,Nba live 07,madden 07 or fifa 07?it's all bull***.the figures aren't movin' naturally at all.graphics are medium quality and the gameplay ...well,let's say that I've seen better.EA is becoming a weak party in video- game industry ,so the only thing they can do is to say that other games are worse than theirs.This is not only a lame excuse, it's also a lie. By the way:When the motion in FF is so lame,then why did EA distribute FF X-2 in Europe???Was the new FIFA 2097,5 with weak-gameplay not finished? EA really sucks!there's only one thing that is good from EA...Burnout.n that's it!peace
Tiger Woods PGA Tour. Who the F***s gonna wanna play that. Final Fantasy VIII FTW
Oops, I meant FFVII!
To the author of this article: Thank you for starting a flame war. I am a Final Fantasy fan, so I know that Entis' comments are about FINAL FANTASY: The Spirits Within, not all Final Fantasy games in general. If you take that into consideration his words have some truth to it. But since you did not make that clear, you started a flame war for no reason. Thanks a lot to the retarded readers of qj that could not notice this, and props to Stikz for noticing. Sincerely, Rommel Rico, in Tijuana, Mexico
i dont get this id like him to name one EA game that looks better or even has better gameplay than FF..... there isnt one dum fikin shiiit maybe make some better games than tiger woods lol dont make me laugh
He may have been talking about The Spirits Within but the way he phrased it was more of a generalization than pointing at a certain title. Granted, Spirits Within was not very realistic in movement but you're talking about a movie over 6 years old. Motion technology has developed exponentially since that time so his comparison really doesn't have any merit. Not to mention the dunking through the backboard or the ben wallace jumping 15 feet to block a shot. I don't think EA's motion capture is top notch in that respect. The motion of a reciever catching a ball pales in comparison to the motion of that reciever doing an end zone dance. It's pretty pathetic in my opinion.
FIFA sucks Need for Speed sucks Final Fantasy Rules Nuff said
yeah, EA is right.. its so unrealistic... so square enix.. find bahamuth and then put it in one of your studio and then motion capture it... dumb ass EA, wtf is wrong with them.. how the hell can a teenager (cloud) with a sword larger than him be at a very realistic movement? or a chocobo running in a field? large turkey perhaps?! EA games.. challenge retards...
you guys do realise that alot of people at EA that work on the games and spend alot of time making them aren't all high-rolling, "destroy the competition and bad mouth rival companies' products" kind of people. EA may be being controlled by a bunch of money-mongering poobums but some of the games made by them are still really awesome. and yeah that guy does need the evil drove out of him. and a makeover.
Isn't this the same EA that made the NBA LIVE games which have been gaining so much coverage due to sucky physics (players with jedi skills, unmissable 3 pointers etc). Hmmmm, interesting *coughypocritecough*
EA has no room to critisize the work of Square Enix when they can't even get thier garbage software to run correctly, its been two weeks sense the release of thier latest NFS title and they still havent released a patch yet they have hundreds of fans complaining of bugs and crashes not to mention poor online play, where as Square Enix has had no issues of the such. EA is pure rubbish and dont care about thier costomers
hmmm your a dikhed, u need to get laid, final fantasy was a sik game, and world or warcraft is *****, so u can shove tht comment up your arse you little prick
Until EA stop churning out rehashes year on year of the same games that haven't hardly changed and contain the same problems as the last release then I don't care how good their motion is as I wont be buying thier products. Time they got thier own house in order before slagging others off & while I'm at it EA, let the fifa license go and give another team a shot, we might get a decent footy game then.
You can get super-duper-facial hair effect, but without good gaming mechanics, all the nice graphics are just that nice graphics and you have an unplayable game. When will EA realize that good game play is required before good graphics....
So read what he is saying. He is saying that FF has great graphics but because the motion isn't great, the total package isn't realistic. From the original article: "And in some cases, although the graphics are great - it certainly grows the market and draws people in - the graphics are creating some problems that as an industry we need to deal with very rapidly." One of these problems, Entis explained, is that it's hard to believe in a character that looks extremely lifelike if they don't move and behave in realistic ways. "In Final Fantasy, the modelling fidelity was really better than the motion fidelity," he argued. "In other words, when you looked at the models, they signalled an expectation to the audience that the motion couldn't deliver upon." When this situation occurs, Entis believes, "You basically expect a level of life that isn't there and the character, in relative terms, feels dead."
how about you learn how to spell, beside..who cares ....u turd.
what's your idea of intelligent story lines? Gears of War with its bruding, badass solider from another planet saving the day or Halo with a lone super solider from earth saving the world?
glad i wasnt the only person who noticed. While watching the actually action scenes it looks sort of strange but when you slo-mo it then it looks like how it would be done if possible.
The way I see it... EA 1 SE 0 This will only make games better! Peace.
How do you even draw a comparison between Final Fantasy and Tiger Woods? This guy is a VP at EA and knows *****all about games. Best par? All Tiger Woods game since the Playstation 2 came out look the exact piece of sh*t. Side Note: Final Fantasy Rules
SE > EA Im so boycotting EA now, they rely truly on their sports franchise fanboys to keep them afloat.
final fantasy spirits within is *****....nuthing but Its a *****in Disgrace calling it a final fantasy as for this guy...well obvioulsy he is stupid and hasnt seen the mirror in a long time coz he Really has nuthin on FF....final fantasy graphics are getting better for each game thats out...ea is good....Ish....FF is better.... Entis is a ***** and i recommend he takes a good long look in the mirror YA UGLY B.A.S.TA.R.D!
At least Square does not release buggy ass games that get by the EA QA team. Real Professional EA.
for a company which reuses the same menu/navigation screens between all of their games ( batman returns / any crappy bond game / madden infinity ) they sure like to bark about innovation. they only mastered the art of pissing people off and making people on xbox360 pay cash for what other systems get as cheat codes.. keep realistic physics and motion for sim type games... who wants to see a FF character run like a meat sack NFL player?
But EA sucks and doesn't have good graphics at all, whereas FF has Amazing graphics! Next Gen FF will rule!
you cant say that they need to do much to make pga realistic, its all pre recorded movement by the actuall golfers then fed into a computer, no inteligence within the game, just a video. real inginuity from EA there, well done. also since when has final fantasy been about realism, its all about telling a fantastic story. in great detail. which we always get and it can only get better through time. cheers all
Battlefield 2 is fun.
i hate to say this, but the guy has a point. while i'm a fan of FF, i gotta admit some of the FFXIII battle movements looked a bit stiff (e.g. when the heroine does air-flips and spins) compared to what one would expect from its stunning graphics.
aye ***** you buddy ff rules all games
Sorry guys, I attended the presentation, and the FF reference was directed towards the first movie, not the game. Yes the rendering was fantastic - ahead of everything!, but compared to the emotional response given by the characters motion... Yes there was a mismatch. The graphics were too good! :D Glenn seemed to be saying that you have to get the balance right, don't go too far in either direction. Example... Conker on N64 was the absolute mutts, in contrast to the Xbox version, which was dressed up with the latest effects, shaders, etc... But there was no change to the animation, dynamics & particle motion, which kinda showed up against the fur rendered background. (Its was a bit clunky) In that light, I don't think he was wrong... So fan boys, chill out. FF7 is still the king! :D
Don't ever play FF8 it's terrible. I've played every final fantasy. (11 isn't one) and 8 shouldn't even bear the name.
Jeez. I have Lotr Third age by EA and the graphics are by far not fluid "or" realistic. I don't think the game is as bad as critics said it was, but it had alot of glitches and used alot of tired repetitive cliches. The game cannot even hold a candle to the worst FF game. Picking a fight with Square Enix just isn't smart. EA has NOTHING that can compete with even the *****tiest of Square/Enix's endeavors. They definitely cannot match FF-12, let me tell you it is sheer awesomeness. Are EA american execs just pissed the Japaneese can constantly rise the bar of quality in their games while also employing artistic creativity? Well if they are they should stop whining and find more ways to improve their products to be an honorable challenger. This man obivously has no poise or tact. SquareEnix is the "Disney" of the east. He's like a whimpy intern trying to exchange blows with a seasoned samurai.
This guys messed up. No offense to Tiger Woods I think hes a cool golfer but I don't think his opinion means *****. I think he plays golf to much to have a real oppinion on grapics with games. FF has always been on the leading edge when it comes to realism with charaters. EA on the other hand has never to me been able to kick out a decent enough game with good REALISTIC grapics. They are not that great of a game company.
I would like to make a point about EA if I may... Just because you make crap movie tie ins every other week doesn't mean you have to flood the market with your substandard graphics, gameplay and UNREALISTIC games and THEN have the nerve to diss one of the few decent game franchise that (strangely EA have no control over and can't throw money at to make it go away) that have the whole package, looks, moves and the best storylines in gaming today.
Let the carnage begin indeed...I haven't bouht an EA game since the supernintendo days and plan on continuing to boycott EA (its not really a boycott when ALL their games suck(i dont like sports games)) and for a guy that worked at dreamworks he should know that great looking and moving characters is worth nothing if you dont have great gameplay and a good story to back it up
I'd love to see EA games make a RPG that even stands next to Final Fantasy. All their games are crap, with cliched storylines. I'd love to see them make a story that is as captavating as the FF games. Oh and for the record White Engine> Anything EA could produce.
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