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GameStop's reaction to PS3 can affect all consoles

Posted Oct 4, 2006 at 3:01PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Wii, Xbox 360 Tags: GameStop, Microsoft, Sony

Look at it. It has bad press... but that shouldn't be a problem

Okay folks, let's keep this topic as civil as possible and not resort to fighting between Sony fans, Microsoft fans, and Nintendo fans. It isn't reassuring, but it also isn't surprising given the history of this latest generation of consoles.

According to an Ars Technica post, GameStop managers weren't wowed by Sony's presence at their GameStop sales conference. One manager claimed, "Sony just didn't seem like they had a plan with the show. No plan at all. Barely a mention of the PS3, and almost nothing playable." It's sobering news to think about, but GameStop managers are thinking the PS3 will not launch very well, given all the recent news on it, from the European delay to the overheating fiasco at TGS.

Now, before the fanboys start taking out their virtual knives and gutting each other online, you have to remember that each of the three console makers have had their own issues, so Sony's current woes are somewhat reinforced by previous bad press from other companies. For instance, everyone remembers the whole Xbox 360 launch, where there weren't enough units, and a number of them went kaput after a few hours, right? There is also Nintendo's problem of previously being imperialistic, a trouble which they are trying to remedy now in their marketing approach and optimism.

While we can't vouch for any system as to their intentions for the future, it's evident that they all share part of the blame when it comes to bad news, and whether its one console or another that gets the press, future impressions of any and all consoles will be colored by the things we've picked up in the past. If they really want business to pick up and for bad press to not happen, then each company better make good their plans and promises. Otherwise, as the GameStop folks seem to feel, the future of gaming may actually be a little darker than we'd like it to be.

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Playstation 3 will sell out. Wii will most likely also sell out. What is their concern? I don't fully understand the meaning behind this post. Gamestop's only concern is our money, and that they will get when we come and buy the consoles.

If their profits were to weaken, it would not be on the console makers, but on their craptastic service.

I also don't have any hardware fears with Nintendo. Most of their products are pretty indestructable under normal circumstances. They already plan ahead with children dropping them and heaven forbid throwing them.

Sony has always had hardware problems, I felt lucky that my PSP at launch was perfect and still have not had any problems. But I admit that they aren't made for normal gameplay, I confess, I dropped my PSP, but it fell a grand total of 5 inches. From my hand to the table, and the side of the casing cracked. I was pissed, it's nothing big, but when you pay 250 dollars and you feel that "wound", you want to kick your own ass and hate that a more expensive system would have been built more sturdy.

As for the 360 launch, that was a nightmare. More work should have gone on to fix the heating problems. I don't think Sony will have as many errors as the 360 on launch, but they won't have to have many errors to hurt them. With 400,000 only coming to the US on launch day, even a small amount will overshadow the already small number of consoles.

Lets just hope no one gets hurt that November weekend trying to secure a PS3 or Wii.

# Hmmm — Guest 2006-10-04 17:31

I am not a big fan of sony. But if things like this keep going on, who will the competition be? Microsoft needs sony and Nintendo and sony and Nintendo Need Microsoft. or there will be no push to do better... I hope sony pulls up their socks and starts showing me something that I like to see.

# to number 2 — Guest 2006-10-04 17:41

Exactly. :)

The best way to make competition better and to lessen bad press is by each of the companies making sure that they say promises they can deliver.

It's a lot healthier for gaming in general if their competition is they all do what they can to make a positive impact and maintain it, rather than faliling to live up to their own hype machine and trying to spin it.

# Gamestop sucks — Guest 2006-10-04 17:54

You guys are all right. Screw Gamestop. What impact do they have? They only sell products. They have no right to say what system will be better than the others. It's like saying a liquor store is predicting that Lay's potato chips are going to fail because Lays didnt show of their new flavor. I know that didnt make sense but also this story

# er... i misspelled some stuff. — Guest 2006-10-04 18:08

It's a lot healthier for gaming in general if the competitors do what they can to make a positive impact and maintain it, rather than faliling to live up to their own hype machine and trying to spin it.

# When did this become a Gamestop issue? — Guest 2006-10-04 19:24

Several hundred Gamestop managers,which most happen to be gamers, had a vendor conference last week. They were able to play the PS3 as well as games like Gears of War for the 360. Sure, Gamestop, like most corporate entities, does in fact "suck". That doesn't diminish the fact that hundreds of our peers were not at all that impressed with the PS3. From my information, there were much longer lines waiting to play the Wii and Gears of War.

# ? — Guest 2006-10-04 20:34

I also dont get how gamestop can affect the PS3 launch?

# WII60 — Guest 2006-10-04 21:52

LOOK, This is what will hapen, sony FLOP, Nintendo MASSIVE COMBACK the microsoft in the lead, face it Nintendo and microsoft are going forward, sonys *****ed

# s — Guest 2006-10-04 22:11

I have a 360 and not planing to get a ps3 for prob a year. but I agree that the console will sell the 400,000 in a snap thats not to worry. But what i do think that there might be a problem selling after the chrismas season is over, it might not apeal as much as the wii or 360. We shall wait and see

# you can almost smell the fear — Planet 2006-10-04 22:58

Those massivly exaggerated overheating reports have a clearly visible source. "That thing is silent as a goldfish while mine roars like a buzz saw? Impossible! There must be a drawback, they probably only forgot to put in ventilation!"

Dear "ha" and " I LIKE SUCKING PINEAPPLES", face it: the PS3 isn't nearly as bad as you'd like it to be and spent your last few months bad-mouthing.

# Xbox sees the end coming. — Guest 2006-10-05 00:44

Xbox fanboys (such as above) are just too naive. And some see the end approaching, so they can only tyrash talk right about now. Give Sony all the bad press in the world. It's still a PlayStation 3, and it still has the franchises that sold 100 million units of PS2. X360 is still not a substitute. Never has been and probably never will be.

# Xbox has millions behind it — Guest 2006-10-05 01:16

Not that xbox it the ultimate, but u have to remeber bill gates spent 9 million (i think) on it. They never came out with something new. what shocks me though is y the ps sold well when it had no new stuff...maby just the company logo? any wayz, with the troubles its haveing , they probably have only 400,000 just to help lessen the ammount coming back, even though most of them PROBABLY will. Its a fact we'll have to deal with. As a last note what the F*** do they mean by Nintendo is being imperialistic? Are they saying they withhold too much info? welll... the ps3 wouldnt be frowned apon right now if they said when they would debute latter on (like nintendo did) so they could garentee it

# Stupid title? — WC 2006-10-05 01:55

They completely neglect to explain how Gamestop's reaction to ps3 will affect ANYTHING other than Sony and Gamestop? Just because the PS3 is boring doesn't change that the 360 is already out there and selling and the Wii is the most wanted console of this century. So as my GF from college would say:

"And how does this affect me moving the boat?" (An in-joke that means this has absolutely nothing to do with me.)

# The hell moonie? — Guest 2006-10-05 04:17

Why is it so hard to believe that the 360 is doing just fine? I admit, the Xbox didn't interest me this past generation. But the 360 really has impressed me. As much as I hate Microsoft in general, they did a great job in having the system well integrated with PCs and Online.

Take Test Drive for instance, you turn it on and bam! Just online. I can browse through my home network and access my music, or even hook up my Zen mp3 player and it'll start playing my songs.

Now I'm expecting PS3 to give me that as well, but that's next gen ladies and gentleman. I'm enjoying my 360, and I am getting a Wii on day 1. PS3 will have to wait, nothing interests me on launch, what does I can get on 360, and I'd like for Sony to have to price cut.

I'm a gamer. Any real gamer doesn't bash the systems, merely reflects on their flaws but applauds their unique points. The 360 isn't a failure, it's doing damn good. And it will still do damn good when PS3 and Wii come out. Be grateful we have so much options this generation.

# hey now — Guest 2006-10-05 04:24

All you people that say Gamestop sucks need to realize one thing....we hold the majority of the video game industry in regards to product. I may not agree with it sometimes but it is a fact. You can try to find a PS3 at the big box stores if you want to, but the fact of the matter is they will not have the quantity that we will.

# Manager Conference — Guest 2006-10-05 04:46

While I'm sure what went on there wasn't supposed to be known, the facts are that the PS3 will sell out, there are too few not to. Some will be defective and customers will either have to upgrade to a 360 and some games, or get a Wii with a LOT of games. Resistance Fall of Man was Sony's only shining star. Everything else (including Lair) shouldn't have been shown if its going to be better, or if its not going to be better, its a shame (not to mention that most of the games coming out for PS3 are headed to 360). MicroSoft got the most support at the conference. Its not about the system for them anymore, its about the games, accessories, XBox Live, Games for Windows, and the Zune. The Wii will be a great launch for them (Nintendo), but not everyone will dig the little bit better graphics than the Game Cube approach. It is more fun to play using the Wiimote, but it wont be as responsive as a traditional controller. Wii will have support this Christmas too (mainly from the DS side though).

Basically, this will be an M$ X-Mas. Look at the numbers and they wont lie. 360 is now in more regions then just the big three, exclusive football games in Europe (even if the PS3 launched there, it is a huge blow) Wii is a great system, just not on par graphically, and wont have the 3rd party support in the end because of the uniqueness of their controller.

As far as GameStop not mattering...

GameStop/EB Games is the #1 game retailer in the world. Bigger then Wal Mart, and that gives you power. When you have the power, people listen. Sony would be using their game register software (letting only the game you bought and played work on only that PS3, basically no used/borrowed games for the system) run on US PS3's. GameStop let Sony know that used games are a huge part of system sales and the trade in process leads to new game release sales. If Sony implimented that software in the PS3, GameStop couldn't sell it.

Used games will now work in the US PS3. So I guess, GameStop does matter.

-V

# dsadass — Guest 2006-10-05 04:58

iam a wii fanboy but this news is *****, those managers prob dont even know what the ps3 or wii is, they just know there going to get more wiis then ps3 so they think the wii will do better....

# hmmmm — Guest 2006-10-05 06:00

"your mom" ,

We do not have to realize or recognize the fact that Gamestop is a major player in the retail industry, yes retail, not video game industry. We will always have other options. Bullying people into reserving/ buying a product is not a practice people are going to buy into for much longer.

"Viphid"

Gamestop is not yet larger that Walmart. Your district manager, or maybe even Bill Chin told you that at conference. It's just not true. When you build a store on every corner in the US, you will sell a higher quantity. Too bad the profit margin takes a hit because of such a large overhead.

I respect the fact that your a company man. But regurgitating all the $#!+ that you are s***** fed by that said company doesn't make you knowledgable.

" Being the biggest doesn't necessarily make it the best."

# ***** Gamestop — SteveTao 2006-10-05 07:29

Gamestop have some of the worst costumer service ever. No one really gives a crap about Gamestop. How the hell is Gamestop going to affect PS3's launch? To claim that Gamestop have that much influence is just plain stupid, just like Gamestop's staff.

# agreed — Slipstream0 2006-10-05 08:57

as much as i like talking to a select few staff members at my local GameStop (who are hardcore gamers), the majority are retards. I over heard one employee talking to a customer who was concerned about the monthy fee say "Oh, well, if you dont want to pay the monthly fee, there is a similar game" (here is when i expected him to say Guild Wars) he grabs Warcraft 3 off the shelf "This is pretty much the same game, but you can play it online OR offline with no fee" I was so shocked i actually filled the guy in after the "knowledgable" exployee left.

# simple solution — Guest 2006-10-05 09:16

Ok Gamestop... you gotta problem?

How bout you don't get ANY PS3's at your store??? Sony is perfectly fine letting Best Buy, Walmart, and Target (etc.) sell the consoles for them.

What's with this company??? They make money off the PS3... Sony is doing them a favor by allowing them to sell the consoles in their stores!!! Ingrates...

# keep your word — Guest 2006-10-05 10:00

everything that sony shown at e3-05 was shown at tgs06. all the hype was real. what else can sony do? the trailers look like the gameplay. the system handles the graphics smoothly. what do these people want. they must want the ps3 to cost 1$ and comes with 1million$ in the box. they must want the system to go to work for them and do their job for them. I think that the problem is alot of people put their money on M$ and they realized that sony was going to win. so they try to Sabotage sony's launch with bad new and rumors. if gamestop wants to be dumb then bestbuy will make the sales.

# okay — Guest 2006-10-05 11:32

okay here is how i take it. Sony, microsoft, and nintendo just create dumb stupid hype about this *****. Gamestop licks ass. they say this ***** now, but when ps3's launch, they will be happy to see fanboys sleaping outsinde for a ps3 at 500 a pop. the same ***** was being said about the xbox360/ps2/xbox/gamecube when the next gen came out, but gamestop sold them. Yeah there will be flaws in the ps3's no ones perfect. just like the ps2 with the laser problem. but it doesnt matter. people will buy the ps3. it will sell oput. wii will sell out. just liuke xbox360. SOLD OUT. so this should have been a post. point blank:GAMESTOP WILL SELL THE *****

im buying fro bestbuy anyway since they do what they are supossed to do. Sell it and shut the hell up. if you dont, then walmart ands bestbuy will kick ass with money while you start to put dirt on the wii and guess what???

YOU GETS NOTHING!!!

# gamestop sucks — Guest 2006-10-05 12:27

They sell u a turbo graphics 16 if u let them... adn they'll try to convince you that its better than the 360 and PS3!!! (it's probably on par with the wii...)

Just kidding, i couldn't help myself

# Huh!! — Guest 2006-10-05 14:50

# Huh!! — Guest 2006-10-05 14:59

Wait, wasn't it Gamestop/EB saying that they are not taking pre - orders for the PS3 because of the high demand they cannot fulfill?

If so, then why are they saying that the PS3 is going to flop. In my opinion, I think that the PS3 will do well, so will the Wii, and that Nintendo and Sony has been in the gaming business WAY longer than Micro$oft has, so they have more experience. Look at the Playstation 1 and the Playstation 2. Both editions sales, and custiomers satisfaction was great. Nintendo is a great company too, and even though the GameCube didn't do well, that is just one of the FIVE consoles they have made, and I am sure they are gonna learn from their mistakes and suprise everyone with the Wii. The only company I think will flop is Micro$oft. It hase that big ass brick power supply, and just comes with a normal DVD drive, have to pay, like, $300 more to upgrade to HD-DVD, so thats like the price of the PS3 Premium. And if you bought the Premium Xbox 360, then your paying $700 hundred dollars total, to be able to play those HD-DVD only games that will soon come out. So you will be forced to pay that much to play a game only released on HD-DVD. OR you can get a Wii or a PS3, and have the Wii's virtual consoles to relive the old days, or the PS3 and have the awsome cell processor and the the backward compatibillity with the PS1 and The PS2 and being able to play DVD's and Blu-Ray Disc's, and the internet and stuff, both versions coming with a hard drive!!! AWESOME, PS3 for me please.

Sorry for the double post, and the long post, I messed up on the 1st one

# I dont care — Guest 2006-10-05 16:18

There I said it so here it goes......

SONY SUCK REALLY HARD! It`s like a hooker on a gay party! It sucks! SONY is DEADDDDDDD.......

# Fanboys shouldn't be quoted by news coverage. — Guest 2006-10-05 17:39

I'm a gamestop manager and I was wowed by the PS3. Yes, it was playable at the event. It's a nice console, and if you want to buy it, you should. If you don't want to buy it, that's fine too. The Xbox 360 is a great system. I know some people feel strongly about their systems but let's face it, the kids that have them all are going to have the most fun.

# Sony far from dead — Guest 2006-10-05 20:01

Sony dead? from what i see sony is doing well in all other departments, sony will not "die" if they fail in bringing out ps3 or the psp has "failed". Sony sells in alot of different electronics and they are from "Dead". Apart from the recent battery incident sony has been doing well=]. And sigh for all those people who think Sony is "Dead" you guys need a life =o sad little kids=[

# #27 — Slipstream0 2006-10-05 21:19

"Sony has been in the gaming business WAY longer than Micro$oft has, so they have more experience. Look at the Playstation 1 and the Playstation 2"

Actually, Sony has been in the business one generation longer than M$, unless you count PC....

I dont mean to start a flame war, but if your going to bash or promote ANYTHING, at least SOUND like you know what your talking about...

# Ummm.....Actually — Guest 2006-10-06 15:29

Actually he said "Nintendo and Sony has been in the gaming business WAY longer than Micro$oft has, so they have more experience..."

Hence, the word Nintendo. He was talking about Nintendo and Sony, then leading to the systems they have made already.

You, sir, are wrong.

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