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Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts

Posted Mar 13, 2010 at 11:00AM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: Wii, PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Microsoft, Nintendo, Reggie Fils-Aime, Sony

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Sony and Microsoft are now moving into the Wii-dominated motion-controlled gaming market. So, what does Nintendo think about it? NoA president Reggie Fils-Aime says they'd be embarrassed to do what the two console manufacturers are currently doing.

"I think a hallmark of Nintendo is that we are constantly trying to innovate," he said in an interview with gaming blog Kotaku. "I think we would have been embarrassed to do what our competitors are currently doing."

Nintendo seems unconcerned about the current state of things, but what about the future? Fils-Aime again laid to rest speculation about a Wii HD, saying that while HD is definitely one of the things they're looking into, it by itself won't be a reason for Nintendo to put out a new console. It needs to provide "a whole new compelling experience" as well.

"When Mr. Miyamoto goes to Mr. Iwata and says. 'I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii,' that's when there will be a next generation console. What that includes we'll see,"

We will provide something new. Something that the consumer and the industry will look at and say 'Wow, I didn't see that coming.'"

"When Mr. Miyamoto goes to Mr. Iwata and says. 'I have this great idea and I can't do it on the Wii,' that's when there will be a next generation console. What that includes we'll see," he said.

Via [Kotaku]

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So when Nintendo moves into the HD and 3D market Sony and Microsoft (if MS implements 3D) can laugh at them, because they will surely be behind on them two aspects. They are talking about inoovation? they are the only company of the three that isnt doing anything inoovative.

Sony = 3D tech and PS Move
Microsoft = Natal
Nintendo = uhmm, MotionPlus 2?

# Copied..... — hypercoyote360 2010-03-14 10:19

Really, what would that be? Cuz from what I remember, Nintendo is the company that puts out the most random, albeit oft-failing, innovations. Some that pop in my head are ROB, NES Power Pad, NES Power Glove, SNES GB Adapter, N64->GBC Adapter, Gamecube->GBA Link Adapter, E-reader, Nintendo DS dual touch screens, Wii Motion Control and the Wii balance board. I'm sure I'm probably missing some. Some of those have now been copied by other company's.

+1 # balance board — Guest 2010-03-14 16:49

Wasn't there a balance board type thing for the Amiga? Which is where the guru meditation errors came from?

-8 # I think Reggie missed the BIGGEST point however! — Guest 2010-03-13 12:07

Remember when the Wii was announced/released?
Remember how the Sony and Microsoft fanboys slagged it off as a gimmicky novelty controller that is not a proper controller?
I sure as hell do.

+10 # Yep! — FreePlay 2010-03-13 12:48

And I STILL think it's gimmicky.

+1 # And yet.... — hypercoyote360 2010-03-14 10:28

And yet Nintendo is ahead. Many people may have stopped playing it after a month, but I think that's only a part of the purchase crowd. Many people who never played games before now play the Wii on a somewhat regular basis.

Hardcore games != Halo, Resistance, COD, or other popular FPS's which are the biggest reason most people play 360/PS3.

It's about numbers and Nintendo's got them this time around. If it truly is a gimmick, we'll see on the next system iteration because there will be enough people who were burned on buying a Wii that will not touch a Wii2.

FYI - there was another wii shortage a month or so ago. Now why would there be a shortage on a system everyone is tired of playing?

gimmick
–noun
1.
an ingenious or novel device, scheme, or stratagem, esp. one designed to attract attention or increase appeal.

+1 # lol — FreePlay 2010-03-14 13:39

Notice that it's all about increasing appeal, not being worthwhile.

-1 # Huh — ShinseiTom 2010-03-14 13:58

And yet it's still called "an ingenious or novel device." Hmmmmmm.

+8 # Yep still is.. — zzk2001 2010-03-13 13:17

I say the controls are still Gimmicky when they don't even work right and 90% of all games you just keep swinging the damn thing around to win, O..Yeah real fun...not!
Wii games have no skill just wave around like some dumb 5year old and win the game, I guess that's what happens when the controls don't work like they should.

+3 # and it still is a gimmick — phiyuku 2010-03-13 13:48

Everyone plays the Wii for a month and says okay this is getting boring. Wii haven't touched for I don't know 2 months and only got it for 3 and half months so far. PS3 constantly play it. Xbox has been sitting there collecting dust for about 2 weeks since its banned. Now the Wii is a fad and will always be a fad until it can rake up the amount of hours played per console comes close to the PS3 or 360. And that will never happen because for every core gamer on the Wii that puts in hours there are 10000 casual gamers that play 30 mins a day or when friends come over cause after all like someone else said. It's just a really expensive board game.

-4 # RE: I think Reggie missed the BIGGEST point however! — Guest 2010-03-13 14:44

gimmicky, only play for a month... sounds like a lot of jealous fan boys if you ask me.

If I remember correctly, both 360 and PS3 had the lead and everyone was stating that nothing would come from Nintendo.... 4 years later, what is it... wii 61.7 million sold, while 360 is something like 33 million, or something like that. Sales do not lie, and although there maybe a lot more casual gamers (as you fan boys would no doubt say), at least Nintendo have not stooped to copying another consoles idea just in an attempt to get more business. haha such losers.

+3 # RE: RE: I think Reggie missed the BIGGEST point however! — JOshISPoser 2010-03-13 14:57

Quoting Red:

gimmicky, only play for a month... sounds like a lot of jealous fan boys if you ask me.

If I remember correctly, both 360 and PS3 had the lead and everyone was stating that nothing would come from Nintendo.... 4 years later, what is it... wii 61.7 million sold, while 360 is something like 33 million, or something like that. Sales do not lie, and although there maybe a lot more casual gamers (as you fan boys would no doubt say), at least Nintendo have not stooped to copying another consoles idea just in an attempt to get more business. haha such losers.

ignorance is surely bliss in your life.
research what they are "copying" and you'll see they all were done before nintendo, they just didn't make a console out of a gimmick.

# RE: RE: RE: I think Reggie missed the BIGGEST point however! — Guest 2010-03-13 17:49

so by what you are saying, you can infer that they are trying to save their consoles with a gimmick... that's even more lame then isn't it.

# what? — Guest 2010-03-14 05:42

just inclining that sales is what shows a product is of high quality and how much it will be used is stupid.. these consoles are aimed at 10 yr old and below or 40 yr old people and over. these people in most cases do not see the real side of the tech and therefore dont really care about the limitations of the hardware etc. . these people should not count in judging if it is a good product or not. Wii is rubbish.
..think about how well the pet rock sold.

+2 # @KingP — TheReaper 2010-03-13 16:00

i also remember when people were saying it was not for hard core gamers... and OMG!... they were right!

i have ps3 and wii... and i never use it. only one in a blue moon i will pick it up and play Zelda or Mario kart...

-3 # RE: @KingP — Guest 2010-03-13 18:56

sorry but if you were a true hard core gamer, you have a very powerful PC with amazing games... consoles are for soft core gamers.

+2 # wow... — Kaden 2010-03-14 03:36

Quoting Red:

sorry but if you were a true hard core gamer, you have a very powerful PC with amazing games... consoles are for soft core gamers.

you sound like every other pc fanboy out there. fuckin go get your own opinion and stop being such a sheep. Console gamers, as well as PC gamers are Hardcore in their own right. Not all pc games are the be all/end all of games. (not saying console games are either)

Btw dude, the wii fuckin blows. it has like, 5 good games. all of them first party, because no one in their right mind buys the shitty third party games on it. and yes, they are shitty.

-1 # Damn it — ShinseiTom 2010-03-14 14:02

I've listed the games I find good on the Wii before. No, it's not just 5 games, everybody needs to fucking stop saying that.
There are more games on the Wii I enjoy than on the PS3 or 360, with the PC being my main gaming platform for everything that feels wrong to play on the consoles (RTS, FPS).

+1 # RE: Damn it — JOshISPoser 2010-03-14 14:15

Quoting ShinseiTom:

I've listed the games I find good on the Wii before. No, it's not just 5 games, everybody needs to fucking stop saying that.
There are more games on the Wii I enjoy than on the PS3 or 360, with the PC being my main gaming platform for everything that feels wrong to play on the consoles (RTS, FPS).

the whole fps to console transition is over.
if anything, you're not a hardcore gamer for the lack of the ability to play them on a console.

# RE: wow... — Guest 2010-03-15 14:58

No I'm not a PC fan boy, or any other fan boy... I do own a PC of course, and have never touched WoW... I find it very boring.

I also owned both 369 and PS3 and found games just boring, so what if the graphics are good, the games are nothing new... I was button bashing on the snes all those years ago... I find the Wii much more fun, and if you really think that pressing a button to swing a sword is actually better than the sword moving with your every movement, then you are a fool. Red Steel is going to show what the motion plus is capable off, and I do hope that Zelda truely shows off it's power... far better than bashing a few buttons.. like I said, I was doing that on the snes.

Oh, I also have the controller set up on my PC to play counter strike, haha can't beat that

The main point though relates to this article, Microsoft and Sony are jumping in on motion control now because it is the way forward.... people, or at least sane people, do not want to button bash anymore. Nintendo has taken a giant step forward and it has paid off, the next gen of consoles will be quite something because of this.

# RE: RE: wow... — Guest 2010-03-19 10:30

"and if you really think that pressing a button to swing a sword is actually better than the sword moving with your every movement, then you are a fool."

You're talking about PS Move there, buddy. Wii uses flick gestures to toggle annimations.

# RE: RE: RE: wow... — Guest 2010-03-22 05:20

still beats the button bashing PS3

+1 # RE: Red — Guest 2010-03-14 10:23

How can PC gamers be "Hard" when they are 300 pound basement dwellers playing WoW?

-1 # ... — SeRosiS 2010-03-15 04:21

Quoting GDI:

How can PC gamers be "Hard" when they are 300 pound basement dwellers playing WoW?

Not all PC gamers are 300+ lbs and live in a basement.

And from most of what I've seen most WoW junkies are under the age of 18.

PRO Tip: Nobody really has a basement anymore unless you are living in a dilapidated house built in the early 1900s.

+4 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 12:15

Miyamoto is the very head of nintendo, iwata is just a doll that to what miyamoto needs.

so, they have to be shamed of all the past since nintendo 64 for trying to compete with the same standars as other consoles?

well is not the fist time nintendo is objetc of copying, did you remenber de rumble pack and them, the dual shock?

-1 # ... — Techni 2010-03-13 16:48

Immersion had rumble before Nintendo
Sony had analog before N64, before the dual shock
Everything you think Nintendo did was copied from someone else

+4 # well — Guest 2010-03-13 12:26

eyetoy has been around since ps2. And the competition is just following the money, bound to happen.

+5 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-03-13 12:31

So? Sony copies and improves on Nintendo's ideas some. They used ideas for controllers but also didn't Sony first have a motion controller with the Eye Toy. Also I remember Nintendo resisted and argued that they didn't need disc based games for their games, but they gradually changed their mind. Who cares as long as they make great improvements in entertainment. I hope Nintendo pulls out all the guns on the next console and makes a killer system for us with great content. Maybe Blu-ray, high definition graphics with high power and most importantly, give us great games.

+7 # RE: RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Vman00 2010-03-13 12:44

Remember Time Crisis? Yeah...That thing was out for a while, for the PSX, and it is what Nintendo did with the Wii. So Nintendo didn't do anything new.

+2 # RE: RE: RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 14:00

Yeah, but Nintendo made Duck Hunt first.

+2 # !! — Anhmeister 2010-03-13 16:05

Oh snap!

+1 # er... — FreePlay 2010-03-14 13:41

Duck Hunt wasn't the first light gun game. It was just the first one on a console.

-1 # ... — ShinseiTom 2010-03-14 14:05

I would consider that pretty innovative, transferring a previously arcade-only game device into the living room.

+1 # RE: RE: RE: RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-03-15 15:44

yeah and the Power Glove

-1 # uhh — Guest 2010-03-13 17:04

Sorry, I thought Nintendo had the first motion controller with the Power Glove...

+1 # No . . . . . — Guest 2010-03-13 21:54

I think that was the atari.....

# RE: uhh — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-03-15 15:50

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Zenith_Space_Commander_600.jpg

Sorry I had to.

# RE: RE: uhh — GUNBEHINDTHESUN 2010-03-15 15:52

# Retail assistant — Guest 2010-03-13 12:48

I find it hard to believe that Miyamoto hasn't had the hardware idea for a sleek HMD with headtracking, and an intertial wiimote controller (without needing IR sensors). Nintendo play their cards close to their chest, and seeing as though all this HD talk is coming from hardcore gamers (a very small share of their market), i doubt that is their 'master plan'.

+5 # Yawn. — FreePlay 2010-03-13 12:50

Once Nintendo makes a system that is actually on par with the current generation, they can talk about other people being embarrassed.

-2 # weird thing to say — phiyuku 2010-03-13 13:50

coming out from a Wii Fanboy. Unless your not the Wii fanboy. It was either you or isohunt. The one thats not the wii fanboy is I think a PS3 fanboy.

+2 # correction to name — phiyuku 2010-03-13 13:52

ISOHaven. Isohunt is a torrent site -.-

# lolz — JOshISPoser 2010-03-13 14:05

Quoting phiyuku:

ISOHaven. Isohunt is a torrent site -.-

i caught that too.

# ... — Afrit 2010-03-13 14:05

# seriously? — De Leon 2010-11-30 00:53

Current gen consoles are 2-3 generations behind PC hardware-wise. They're just PC hand-me-downs.

I'm seriously tired of these "hardcore" gamers whining about HD. Core gaming is not limited to FPS, 3rdPS, Racing Sims, Fighters, and/or anything M rated. It's all about gameplay.

+2 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 12:54

the industry is made of copycats scratch that the world is if it weren't for that we wouldn't have improvements on anything now would we so its all good but innovation is also great but its also based on something old

+5 # ... — Afrit 2010-03-13 13:00

Sony did copy the sport play thing.

But did Mr Reggie saw this video before talking.
[url:error]

The idea behind the Move originate in 2003-2004

But yes the wii success cause it to materialize with accelerometers.

+6 # Dam Error in link — Afrit 2010-03-13 13:02

Video here
www.youtube.com/watch?v=FpNdkm9s8AY&feature=related

+2 # He's stupid — Guest 2010-03-13 13:39

The Wii isn't innovative, all it is is a Gamecube with waggle controls. It wasn't true motion control until the motion plus added 1:1 movement but that's not even added to new Wii remotes, they want to charge extra for it and don't even support it like it should be. He's just trying to fuel the fanboy flame wars. I have all 3 consoles and haven't played my Wii in about a year, if it wasn't for my love of Mario and Zelda I wouldn't have bought one at all. On top of that Nintendo is screwing their customers left and right with over priced accessories and crappy $50 mini games that you get for $1 on the iPhone. It costs $80 plus batteries for a controller setup of a wii remote, motion plus, and the nunchuck, how does that make sense. And the Wii itself is basically just a Gamecube with WiFi built in and it cost $200. For that price you can get a PS3 or 360 and get real games to play.

+3 # ... — Silver-Tiger 2010-03-13 13:40

Interesting..... All that badmouthing from Nintendo means they are at least a little bit frightened. If they think it will fail, they wouldn't comment on it so much.

+2 # Problem Ahead — Guest 2010-03-13 14:08

i can really see nintendo running into a bit problem with their next console. the majority of wii owners are non gamers who just like it for the novelty side and there will be no way of convincing these people that they should buy a new console.

the older nintendo fans such as myself may also give it a miss (expecially at launch)as we feel abandoned with all these throw away cheap games.

+3 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — astaroth001 2010-03-13 16:36

"I think a hallmark of Nintendo is that we are constantly trying to innovate"
the only innovation I've seen from Nintendo is when the Game Boy came out, the Virtual Boy and the Wii...the rest where just a different console that used what had been seen before...a box using cartridges to play games...the DS isn't innovative since the touch screen tech has been out for quite a while

+1 # Dont Flatter Yourself — Guest 2010-03-14 00:42

dude. if the DS is not innovative then niehter is the WII. ide say the DS is probly one of the ONLY innovative things that came out with some good use.. wii is just novalty crap..

+1 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 17:02

yeah now we need hidef shovelware

-3 # ... — symbal 2010-03-13 18:39

Thing is Nintendo always think outside the box for their ideas, but M$ and Sony are stuck inside that box shrugging their shoulders at each other trying to find a way out and gealously looking out at what Nintendo's doing hoping they can develop even a fraction of Nintendo's innovative thinking.

+1 # uhhh... — JOshISPoser 2010-03-13 19:34

you realize this is like the first time they've done something "innovative".
also, way to spell jealously wrong. nintendo must be proud to have fans like you.
everything you probably consider innovative has been done before by Sony and other companies.

# RE: uhhh... — astaroth001 2010-03-13 20:19

Mostly Sony, Konami or Namco (before Bandai)...Sony innovated with the eye toy even though it didn't took off due to lack of support from devs, then you have Konami with Motion Sensors...they made one of the first if not the first Motion Sensor Arcade, they made one where you are a Cop and you place your feet in a certain area between some sensors and move to avoid the bullets or hide and your Cop in the screen does the very same thing...and Namco with the hide petal for their arcade for Time Crisis Zone...even Sega was innovative...MS? maybe only with XBLA I dunno

+2 # Dont Flatter Yourself — Guest 2010-03-14 00:31

what...... your saying the PS3 CPU architecture is not innovative....
your saying XBOX live is not innovative..

NO dude making a game cube in a shiny white rectangle with an annoyingly inaccurate motion controller is not innovative..i mean How "innovative" to release games on wii and gamecube at the same time..... is that not a hint enough.. Nintendo is the least innovative company i can think of. even APPLE is better.
you.... you are an idiot .

+1 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 18:55

If Nintendo's "innovation" leads to crap loads of horrible shovelware and only 2 or 3 good games a year then i don't want it on ps3.

+1 # Nintendo's just jealous — InTheZoneAC 2010-03-13 18:55

They put out a gamecube with a half ass motion controller, their system stopped selling because people are now realizing it's just a toy that gets played daily probably by less than 5% of all Wii owners, so now they're resorting to insults on other companies.

If you own a 360 or PS3, you are a gamer. When you give true gamers more options, it'll sell. It won't be a "short term fad" like nintendo planned for.

# no — splontot 2010-03-13 18:59

this article... it doesn't show the whole interview, Reggie said hes flattered by "move" I don't remember reading this embarrassment part in the interview, but I DO remember him saying something about imitation being the highest form of flattery...

http://wii.ign.com/articles/107/1077356p1.html

# Dont Flatter Yourself — Guest 2010-03-14 00:34

immatation...... LOL . it not even in the same world tech wise...
this is like som1 develops a flat screen tv.
and then another company makes a diffrent flat screeen tv
... they look the same.
They are worlds apart.
nintendo. Playstion Move shits on your wii in every way possible.

-1 # ... — symbal 2010-03-13 19:06

Not everyone is a true gamer though, with M$ and Sony they just don't know how to evolve beyond the dedicated gamer group that buy their consoles, but the fact is Nintendo managed to create a whole new group of casual gamers and massively outdone both with profits.

+1 # profit vs quality — JOshISPoser 2010-03-13 19:35

what's more important, profits or quality?
i don't like selfish companies all for money.
they allow such crap games on their system that are all rehashes of each other.

+1 # Dont Flatter Yourself — Guest 2010-03-14 00:35

i agree. i refuse to pay 100 aus dollars for wii shovel ware. when PS3 quality games.. i have to ""buy"" my wii browser

-1 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — symbal 2010-03-13 20:10

Depends who you ask.. Developers say profit, some gamers say quality but the majority of the world buy Nintendos so that's the real answer.

+2 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 20:19

They'd be embarrassed huh?

Shoot I'd be embarrassed renting wii games at blockbuster :/

-2 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-13 20:30

I'm not a fanboy, I own all 3 current consoles. My wii ha been the least played, only because i can play ssbb and Metroid Trilogy only so many times before I get sick of it. Ps3 just ended up being a Mgs4,GOW3, and an overpaid Linux box. 360 ended up being a RB2 portal.

In short, the only thing worthwhile has been my. pc. NVIDIA ftw

+1 # Nintendo Dont Flatter Yourself — Guest 2010-03-14 00:28

you guys realize PS2 had a motion controller like the PS3 has now BEFORE WII......
it was with eyetoy and using the same tech as now...
so nintendo. you are stupid. sony had this tech years ago and atleast didnt base my WHOLE console around it.
.. i still have a normal controller and better motion tech.
so... what does wii have again?

+1 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Guest 2010-03-14 01:14

You're all retarded.

Try to think of this Sony controller as an advancement for gaming in general. It's what the wiimote SHOULD have been originally.

It doesn't matter what company is doing what.

Give me a fun, addictive, and exciting game. Who cares what brand is on it?

You guys are like girls arguing over different clothing labels.

Just play games, god damn it. be happy we're moving forward.

+1 # RE: Fils-Aime "embarrassed" by Sony, Microsoft's motion control attempts — Kam 2010-03-14 01:37

Wii is garbage and nintendo creating another console will also be garbage.. i hope nintendo sink, so they have to close shop and become like sega and only create mario and zelda games for other consoles.. thats wat they deserve for stabbing sony in the back ..back in the days

-1 # Dude — Guest 2010-03-14 10:55

That was over 15 years ago. Move on, bro.

-1 # Sure nice... — Guest 2010-03-14 11:24

to say stuff like this when you are on top. Was Nintendo bragging with the Gamecube?

+1 # Umm.. — Guest 2010-03-15 00:36

" It needs to provide "a whole new compelling experience" as well."

So what's with the DS Lite and now the DSI XL?

+1 # sony will just copy what comes next — Guest 2010-03-15 05:06

m$$oft has rrd & ninty is behind on graphics/good quality games (from 3rd party devs).

Screw both of em! I'm always gonna be a sony person. go sony. sure they're expensive but they make beter stuff than those 2 (even if they have to steal an already developed idea) & they get great 3rd party support!

Btw ive had all the consoles so my opinion isnt biased

# Microsoft and Sony are Hardcore!!! — Guest 2010-03-15 10:22

Microsoft and Sony are so hardcore that is why they want to implement motion based controllers on their respective consoles

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