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Analyst: Wii success may lead to cheaper video game platforms

Posted Mar 26, 2008 at 7:13AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Wii, Xbox 360 Tags: Billy Pidgeon, Microsoft, Sony

IDC analyst Billy Pidgeon has made an interesting prediction regarding the future of gaming consoles.He pointed out that the commercial success of the Wii may spur platform developers to create cheaper, less-cutting edge consoles in the future.

Pidgeon pointed out that both Microsoft and Sony will be successful this cycle, but their current business strategy may be more difficult to pull off in the future. Here's what he had to say about this:

Microsoft and Sony will attain successful business on this generation, but catering to the early adopter hardcore gamers with a technology leader strategy will be difficult in 2011.

Interestingly enough, Pidgeon noted that the next platform may not even be a console at all. It may actually turn out to be a device to which software can be distributed via a network such as a PC, a set top box, or even a smartphone.

He added that the viability of this concept only started to emerge recently and would have been thought of as unachievable if one were to look at the video game industry before this generation. So before we go, here's a short statement from the IDC analyst:

I would have dismissed this idea as unachievable last cycle when only Xbox could provide a promising connected console experience, but it is entirely possible that the PS3 is the last bleeding edge console hardware we will see.

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I mean, not that I dislike my PS3 (not at all), but I'm into JRPGs more than anything (I like every kind of games), so the graphics are less important than the price for me, lol. Or else, I'd upgrade my PC (An upgraded PC is FAR better than a PS3/X360 and have far better shooters, like crysis).

Anyway, I hope that next gen will cost less, and if possible, I hope that sony kill/get killed by Microsoft, so we could have only one console (I'm not counting the nintendo consoles since I never liked them... From the n64 to the wii, they are for non gamers...). At least I hope there won't be another one, like an "apple" console or wathever, I don't wanna buy 4 consoles next time (I buy nintendo consoles even if I dislike them, since there is always at least ONE game you want on it).

And a PS5 for 399$ at start would be really great :D. And even possible since the BD players will cost WAY less by then. (they surely won't need another format in 4-5 years).

# No Sense? Shut the hell up. — NomadHeath 2008-03-26 09:15

Sometimes I read your comments and I'm convinced that you're entire being is some kind of April Fools Joke that doesn't know when to quit. The entire concept of the Wii was to offer something different from the super powered consoles. If you're familiar with the Miyamoto quote, "Powerful consoles are like having ferocious dinosaurs. If you have too many of them, they may fight and hasten their own extinction."

Likewise, if you knew a damned thing about video game history, you'd realize that the weaker systems have always been the one that triumph. NES, SNES, Gameboy (yikes), Nintendo DS, Playstation 2 ... the weak systems that can offer good games at a great price are the ones that have ALWAYS won out.

And the final nail in your coffin -- the Videogame Crash was a result of oversaturation of video games onto the market, not outdated and bad graphics.

Leave and never come back. You're an embarrassment to this website.

# ... — zeromatrix75 2008-03-26 10:46

But he does have a point. This is exactly why i dont want success on the wii. Cutting corners is not good for the future of games.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-26 11:13

"This is why Nintendo sucks, they are ruining the industry!"

Ruining? Got any backup for that claim? Or is your nonsense all you have? You say a LOT but you have nothing to show for it. How is an industry that currently holds the PS3...ruined or being ruined?

"Selling out to non-gamers, kids, and old people."

Hum....a consumer based company "selling out" to consumers..... gees, just when you think this guy has hit rock bottom, he smashes through to new lows.

"If this happens, new game consoles won't have half the power of a good PC"

Let's just PRETEND for a minute that this BS comment of yours can hold water. If this is the case and seeing as how most nintendo systems have been lower power since their first real competition then why do we have the 360 and PS3 today? Seems to me you are, as usual, full of crap.

"forcing those who like technology pushing graphics and sound to buy a expensive PC and graphics card."

Raise your hand if you've been pushed.....anyone?.......hum....I hear crickets!

"I know I'm describing the Wii, but if every console maker did that, there could be another videogame crash."

HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! !!!!!!!!!

As much as this idiot loves Wiki...he's fails at reading comprehension. Here he describes how Nintendo will be the cause of a video game CRASH yet:

"The video game industry was revitalized a few years later, mostly due to the widespread success of the Nintendo Entertainment System (NES), which was released in North America in 1985 and became extremely popular by 1987"

You should try THINKING before SPEAKING....hey, it can only do you some good!

"My god if every new console is like the Wii, I'll quit buying them."

Raise you hand if you give a damn as to whether this guy ever buys another console.......more crickets.....

# sorry the wii should be stopped. — JackBeNimble 2008-03-26 12:05

what does the wii have to offer other than its multiple poster boys/girls. mario, link, samus, donkey kong, kirby... you might as well tell everyone else to stop making consoles if you want people to cut corners. the wii in my eyes is a failure not in sales but gaming in general. the drive in my eyes is ran by fans. very few games outside the poster boy alliance sell real well.

ok enough rambling what im trying to say is because of the wiis cheap development you would think more time would be put into maxing out the quality when it comes to story and gameplay but its quite the opposite for every good title on the wii there is a 100 crappy peace of ***** titles. right now the ps3 is leading in quality maybe not the best but they are consistent. maybe do to the lack of how many games but who wants to by tons of crap just too say look at my collection. the 360 claims to have 1500 game by may? i think there still above the wii in quality though but i cant actually name a hundred games off the top of my head. because of the the high install base and the low attachment rate, and large amount of crappy gimmicky games for the wii i say the wii is a perfect example of whats bad for true gamers. the word casual is been thrown around a lot i dont think catering to them is that great of an idea if its going to hurt the rest of us. honestly are the casual gamers the one roaming these forums defending themselves if thats the case i dont think you can label yourself as casual. casual gamers dont really buy games so who are they really helping playing wii sports. half cooked games is good for no one. if the 360 had gotten it right the first year no one would be saying this right now. i love the PS brand but even i think MS would of been a killer if they got it right(hardware problems). The wii's success only benefits nintendo the PS2 is still around because of the wii, seeing the last gen is still in. what controller are you playing brawl with?

# I disagree — Billie 2008-03-26 13:11

While you bring up some interesting points, I have to disagree with a bunch of them.

1)While the Wii might not have all the bells and whisles that the other consoles have, that doesn't necessarily mean that it's cutting corners. I could easily say that the PS3/XBOX are cutting corners because they are focusing on all-in-one machines rather than just gaming. As a gamer, I could care less about a blu-ray player, PSP interaction, video downloads or

2) While it's true that Mario games are excellent sellers, this doesn't mean that it doesn't offer anything else, it's up to the devs to step up, and to be honest, the 3rd party support has been ever increasing since the N64 days. It is going to take some time to regain its foothold in this market.

3)While there might be a bunch of shovelware on the Wii, what console leader hasen't? I mean the NES, SNES, PS1, PS2 all have had a lot of crappy software. The PS2 has 9663 (http://forums.gametrailers.com/showthread.php?t+302005) games and still counting. To be honest, I can probably think of only about 150 good games.

4)Also, why does the Wii have this reputation of having a low software attach rate? Could anybody give any proof of this? I've seen actually the opposite.

5)Also, having a console that has a bunch of AWESOME games, but smaller library isn't good for gaming either - SEE N64

6)The PS2 is still around because it dominated last gen, it has nothing to do with the Wii. If you look at the NES, SNES, PS1, you will see that these consoles were still supported long after the next-gen was released. A lot of people have a hard time moving up.

I would also have to agree with Nomad Heath, " the weak systems that can offer good games at a great price are the ones that have ALWAYS won out."

Oh yeah, and I actually use the wiimote for brawl +)

# ... — [DVSDevise] 2008-03-26 14:26

Lots of long rants here that I dont have time to read.

The Wii is not just successful because of price. It's the control scheme that's selling it.

# & Brian — Stewies 2008-03-26 14:58

Indeed many tantalizing arguments, however to soft and hardcore gamers alike, a console's sole purpose is to provide FUN!

# lol, I liked the short comment — platon 2008-03-26 15:20

I know this. But still, I liked consoles cheaper like the ps1 and ps2. 599$ at start is too much and I don't wanna wait 1-2 years before buying the next-gen consoles, lol. Long live the cheaper consoles!

# .... — Matt91 2008-03-26 18:37

the wii is a piece of garbage. Graphics are complete *****, gimicky controls, online is a joke; no dlc, no voice chat, new friends code for every game (friends codes are pathetic to begin with).

What is this showing gaming companies? that a garbage console is the way to go?

# m sense — demondirk 2008-03-27 02:09

"Good games are what keeps a system going a long time"

thats why nintendo has been doing so well all these years

# seriously — bad rider 2008-03-27 04:46

stop the presses.. are you saying someone would follow a winning format....... you must be kidding me

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-27 05:29

"Also, why does the Wii have this reputation of having a low software attach rate? Could anybody give any proof of this? I've seen actually the opposite."

Because of lying douche bags like Mr. Nonsense. They run around saying the Wii has low to no attach rate when the FACTS are the Wii has a VERY GOOD attach rate and at certain times has exceeded 360's attach rate.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-27 05:42

"Good games are what keeps a system going a long time"

This comment from this knucklehead is very humorous. It tells us that he's completely capable of understanding why Nintendo continuously remains on top yet most of his posts show otherwise. It shows he understands WHY the Wii is so successful yet he continues to ask OVER AND OVER again WHY the Wii is so successful. I see why so many people call him a douche.

"that's why the PS2 is still around."

100% wrong as always. It's still around because of its userbase and the fact that it's still a viable system. In other words, there's still money to be made. NOT A SINGLE BUSINESS OWNER decides to make a new game for the PS2 TODAY because a "certain" game for it existed in the past. That's the most ignorant thing I've ever seen come from this guy. This guy doesn't have a single drop of common sense in his body.

You could argue that good games is the cause of the userbase. However you still need to address the PS2 as a viable system which you failed to do. Good games is NOT the single reason the PS2 is still alive. There is no single reason.

# Hey Douche bag Sense... — Billie 2008-03-27 06:48

Shouldn't you be having fun playing your XBox 360 and/or PS3 instead of mouthing off long worthless garbage on qj.net?

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-27 07:06

"Wow that was dumb."

No it wasn't. What was said was FACT. As usual you think facts are dumb.

"You're saying everyone should make weak systems to oversaturate the market [again] and possibly lead to another market crash."

I'll let him speak for himself however as a third party, that's NOT what I got from his post at all. As usual you misunderstand everything you read.

"Who wants weak systems?"

Well, based on factual history. I'd say the majority.

"Weak systems equals many low quality games and leaves people with little reason to buy them."

Again, according to our history you are 100% wrong.

"First of all, Miamoto is an egotistical moron that turns things in his bathroom into videogame accessories."

As always you are 100% wrong.

"THAT'S WHY NOBODY WAS BUYING THEM ANYMORE!"

As always you are 100% wrong. As you were told it's because of saturation by itself. Quality is obviously OPINION.

"Inferior systems that could not compete with arcade games, hence underpowered."

Actually arcade games is INCLUDED in the crash. During that time many arcade houses went under.

"The Wii seems awfully similar to me."

That's why you're an idiot.

"Seriously, if the market was saturated with good games would it colapse?"

Regardless of the outcome of this question, how is it relevant? We HAD a crash and Nintendo saved the day. There is no current crash in sight. Even if there was, Nintendo would save the day! They would NOT be the cause of it.

"Also, he might want to move out of the ghetto with all those crickets around."

Because crickets only live in the ghetto? How ignorant of a comment is that? Total failure!

"If you like Nintendo making massive profits off consoles, leaving little need for decent games then I guess it isn't being ruined. If you like more than 4 Wii games, you need your head checked. Not nearly enough quality titles to sustain any success for long."

1. You FAILED at giving proof of Nintendo ruining the market. Thank you for proving to us all that you constantly talk out your rear!!!

2. Because someone likes more then 4 Wii games they need their head checked? This is why people HATE you. Because you're a complete douche!

"Selling out is betraying your past audience and instead marketing toward a whole new audience."

You're an idiot. Consumer based companies sell to CONSUMERS!!!! You are a fool in every way. You've said nothing to counteract my past comment.

"NINTENDO IS A BUNCH OF WORTHLESS SELL-OUTS."

If that were true then they wouldn't hold the top spot. FACTS ARE past Nintendo owners as a majority still love them. Which means they are CATERING to Nintendo fans. Which makes you 100% wrong. Just because YOU don't like them anymore doesn't cancel out the majority. Even though you THINK you're that important....you really aren't.

"Also the original NES was successful because it came first"

As usual you are 100% wrong!!!! Damn, you are the dumbest person on the planet!

"They also tried gimmicks like ROB that were failures with only 2 games! Aparently gamers didn't fall for gimmicks back then like the Wii-mote and Wii fit of today."

1. Yes, ROB failed.

2. The light gun was a gimmick and it took off BIG TIME!!!!!!!!! So once again you are dead wrong! Gees, what is that? 6-8 times in one post?

Keep it up Mr. Nonsense, you're the biggest joke to hit this site, keep us all laughing!!!!

# Mmm — NomadHeath 2008-03-27 08:41

Sorry for my late responce. I don't troll the boards like No Sense does.

To No Sense -- Weak systems lead to low quality games? Many of the "classics" were developed one weak systems. Weak systems win in console wars every generation because the low system requirements allow developers to focus on gameplay mechanics as opposed to trying to make things "pretty" for graphics whores like yourself. Ala, weak systems generally lead to some the of the best games available.

To answer your question, yes, I think every system should be like the Wii. Because the concept of the Wii was about innovation -- bringing something new to the industry. If every video game system brought out its own unique idea on how to play video games, the market WOULD NOT get "dull" and crash.

I love how your arguements are filled with ad hominem bs -- you're responce to Miyamoto's quote is to attack Miyamoto personally. Yeah, real convincing there, smart guy. Please. Try to find a website to troll with people who actually CAN'T see through your bs, and maybe you'd be a bit happier.

# You — Lazyboy256 2008-03-27 09:36

just won 5 internets! Thanks for breaking the mold! (Billie, ISOHaven, NomadHeath, and the others kicked MCS's pwnt ass badly BTW)

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-27 10:19

This is typical of you. You're nothing more then a pathetic child who runs around repeating what he's heard. I busted you in a lie and here you are calling me a lair based on no evidence.

How sad is that?

"Really? Care to back up your lies? "

No problem! Go to www.google.com and search "Wii attach rate". Make sure to use the quotes. There's all the proof you need.

"the 360's attach rate, which is over 6 games per system"

That's a usual lame comment from you. The attach rate for any system is NOT a fixed number. The 360, even IF it is a 6 now, certainly wasn't always 6.

"Also it isn't artificially exaggerated by PACK IN GAMES and $40 controllers bundled with $50 games like wii play."

First of all, the 360 IS inflated by "pack in" games. As for the accessories comment, the 360 also has bundled accessories. Headsets anyone? Either way, this are perfectly valid so your dismissal of them is worthless.

Give up bud, you always fail.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-27 10:22

"a console's sole purpose is to provide FUN!"

Correctomundo! :)

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-28 04:33

"So where does the Wii fall in? All the other last gen systems have better games and better prices than the Wii. Unless you just have to have that controller anyway."

As you have been told COUNTLESS TIMES, that is your OPINION. Obviously a VAST MAJORITY disagrees with you. Seriously, are you THIS DUMB?

"Why does lazyboy always say crap like "(Billie, ISOHaven, NomadHeath, and the others kicked MCS's pwnt ass badly BTW)""

Because it's true.

"Oh yes, like most other Wii owners, they simply cannot accept the fact the Wii is a horrible value that doesn't offer a fraction of what real next gen consoles can."

No dude, it's YOU who can't accept the FACT that the Wii has MUCH to offer. A large volume of FUN at a great VALUE.

"Don't blame the messanger! I'm just warning potential Wii buyers before they waste their hard earned money."

How the hell are you warning anyone? The console has been out for well over a year, has sold more then any other console on the market in a shorter amount of time.....YOU HAVE FAILED. Get over it already.

"That won't make me popular here, but it must be done!"

It hasn't, tons of people think you're an idiot and you are getting nowhere.

# m sense — demondirk 2008-03-28 04:53

why bother.

the new Mister Common Sense. is the only one that fallows has name sake

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-28 05:15

"You could say Nintendo saved the market, but all they did was create exclusive contracts with third party developers preventing them from making games for any other system."

No dipsh1t, go read and actually learn something. Start with your precious Wiki.

"Nintendo also had security chips and high fees for making cartridges to make sure they controlled 90% of the market. Sure they brought it back but they sure made out allright."

Hum....once again, you fail. Most other consoles were also cartridge based. So even here you are crying like a baby about Nintendo making too much money? Seriously, you need HELP. "Security chips" has nothing to do with their success.

"Perhaps you ghetto apartment lets the crickets get in easily? Get a day job!"

Are you high? Something is VERY wrong with your brain.

"Nope, still zero, isoretard. The Magnavox Odyssey (1972) had a light gun, it was already a well established accessory, not a gimmick."

Well established? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!!! That system was a FAILURE. It had accessories that only worked on TWO different sized TVs. That unit was ONLY sold at magnavox stores. The average person never even saw a "light gun" until Nintendo came out with it. Sorry dude, but you fail again.

""Who wants weak systems?"

Well, based on factual history. I'd say the majority."

"No, the Genesis took off because......(cut out BS)"

FACT - Every Nintendo console (except the GC) was successful. You are trying to compare units that came out at different times. Which is pathetic and besides the point. Based on your BS theories, the 360 and PS3 are FAILURES because the Wii sold more.....that's just a bunch of crap. All are successful BUT the Wii is MORE successful because it of it's simplicity as HAS ALWAYS BEEN THE CASE.

If you can't understand that then you are truly blind.

"Guess you're wrong again because I have actual examples."

No, you don't. You have BS.

"The Wii is just a market fluke. I guarantee it won't last half the time the PS3 does."

Big words for something that wont be proven here. You do a lot of that.

""Also the original NES was successful because it came first"

As usual you are 100% wrong!!!! Damn, you are the dumbest person on the planet!"

"It was the first console of the post crash generation."

IT WAS THE CAUSE OF THE POST CRASH GENERATION....that's a major difference you IDIOT!!!!!

"It established itself (through security chips and illegal exclusivity contracts)"

WRONG AND WRONG!

"You PROVE I'm wrong before you call me the dumbest person on the planet."

Not a problem! I can prove your pathetic a$$ wrong all day long. Here's the FIRST link on google when searching this issue and there are TONS after it. It's a later case but there are tons more before it:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res+9E0CE3DD143EF935A25756C0A964958260

"Without FACTS and PROOF, only a moron could make such a claim."

Yeah well, wipe that egg off your face.

"You mean isoretard?"

No, he actually means what he said, unlike you. Plus, I comment ON TOPIC which means BY DEFINITION that's NOT trolling.

"He spends twice as much time here as I do, and only in vein attempt to prove me wrong."

Oh really? And just how would you know that? More BS that you've pull from your rear end.

"So you're saying weaker is better? That makes no sense because there are much better games coming out on real next gen systems all the time."

Oh course it doesn't make sense to you, YOU IGNORE FACTS.

"Third party does not care about developing for the Wii, easily the weakest system."

Seeing as how there are tons of third party games you are 100% wrong yet again!!!

"The top selling Wii games are simply horrible with minimal effort put into them [mario and sonic olympics.]"

That's YOUR opinion. One that is NOT shared by the majority.

"To answer your question, yes, I think every system should be like the Wii. Because the concept of the Wii was about innovation -- bringing something new to the

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-28 05:16

"To answer your question, yes, I think every system should be like the Wii. Because the concept of the Wii was about innovation -- bringing something new to the industry. If every video game system brought out its own unique idea on how to play video games, the market WOULD NOT get "dull" and crash."

"There's that word again, innovation. My god that controller is such a marvel. Does it make games easier to play?"

I have a few games that use it extensively and they are TONS'O'FUN. Have you gotten over it yet?

"My experience with the Wii-mote is crap."

Raise your hand if you care? Hum...more crickets....

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-28 05:23

"I think you're the only one that routinely uses childish name calling. No wonder you like kid's toys like the Wii."

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!!!!!!! That is H-I-L-A-R-I-O-U-S!!!!!!!!

You must know WHY everyone calls you names? Because you run around like a douche calling everyone who owns a Wii a Wiitard!!!!

You then have the balls to cry about someone calling you names? HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !!!!

"They have a gimmick controller"

And? What, are you pissed that they thought of it instead of you?

"restricted supplies"

Even IF their supplies are restricted (which they are NOT) they are still selling more then your POS 360. So in the end, it wouldn't matter.

"and colorful characters (with no personality.)"

Interesting...please continue your ignorant rant...

"It certainly isn't because of lots of good games"

Why not? Seeing as how they do have lots of good games....

"I've said it before, the only games with decent review scores are first party, and they aren't even the best sellers!"

Based on what exactly? As usual you talk and talk but have nothing to show for it.

# m sense — demondirk 2008-03-28 05:25

all i can say is that your "Scum" if the u.s gotten taken over by some terrorist org. you would be the first too die because how dumb you are.

# HOLY COW! — The Obsidian 2008-03-28 05:58

What a bunch of senseless ranting mister sense!! Please for the love of God find something else to do OK!!?!? You phailed you always Phail ok enough you HAVE to have some kind of hobby or something.......do that play your precious Xbox for heavens sake

# ? — Billie 2008-03-28 09:33

Trolling much?

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-28 13:36

"I never found anything on google saying the Wii has ever came close to matching the PS3 or the XBOX 360's attach rate."

That's why you FAIL.

"Maybe you'd like to post the single BS article stating otherwise, since no article likely exists, I'll assume you're lying again to protect Nintendo from bad press. Is this your job or something?"

DAMN, you busted me!!!! OH NOES!!!!

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-28 13:38

"gimicky controls"

That right there is proof possitive that Mr. Nonsense has created another username.

# WTF!?!?!?!?! — ISOHaven 2008-03-31 04:58

It's not that, it's just that you're the only idiot who runs around here like a broken record calling people wiitards and using the term "gimmick" at least twice a day.

Thus, the reason I quoted something specific and call THAT proof. As usual, you "didn't get it" because you're not capable of utilizing higher brain functions.

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