A barrage of multi-console Call of Duty 3 screens |
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With Call of Duty 3 coming out on three separate consoles, we've been doing a bit of "how do the games compare" comparisons lately. Of course, there's no arguing that each console brings something a bit unique-to-itself to CoD3, from the graphics processing power of the Xbox 360 and PS3 to the Wii's Wiimote.
Well, QJ's been hit with a stackload of screens from all three versions of the game, conveniently airdropped by Activision. If you still want to play the "compare one screen to another game" like the guy who meticulously analyzed the difference between the 360 and Wii screens, go ahead, but like we always say: it doesn't matter what platform, so as long as the game rocks solid.
Xbox 360 screens:
PlayStation 3 screens:
Wii screens:
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ps3 looks better
wii will PLAY better.
AND THE FACTS DON'T LIE......
There are three critical performance aspects of a console:
Central Processing Unit (CPU) performance.
The Xbox 360 CPU architecture has three times the general purpose processing power of the Cell.
Graphics Processing Unit (GPU) performance
The Xbox 360 GPU design is more flexible and it has more processing power than the PS3 GPU.
Memory System Bandwidth
The memory system bandwidth in Xbox 360 exceeds the PS3's by five times.
again #3, wii will PLAY better
The truth hurts. You can bring a ton of technical jargon but it's pointless. The 360 has sold about 6 million worldwide thus far. PS3 is expecting to surpass whatever lead the 360 had by March 07.
Can you honeslty tell me that you can play Saints Row or any other complex game and it does not freeze. I've even heard of Dead Rising not working to well. I just don't think the machine can handle that.
Upscalled 1080p and add-ons, consumers don't want that. M$ claims to give thier customers a choice. There are a few things that I have to have if I play. Let's see how much that will cost me with 360:
XBOX 360 = $400
Wireless Adapter - $100
Online Gaming - $50 (a year)
Essentials total - $550
All this is included with the PS3 for $50 more, not to mention a ton of other add-ons.
After two years of owning a 360 a person would have paid a total of at least $500 if you include $50 a year in XBL fees.
The truth hurts. You can bring a ton of technical jargon but it's pointless. The 360 has sold about 6 million worldwide thus far. PS3 is expecting to surpass whatever lead the 360 had by March 07.
Can you honestly tell me that you can play Saints Row or any other complex game and it does not freeze? From what I understand Dead Rising does not work to well either. I just don't think the machine can handle it.
Upscalled 1080p and add-ons, consumers don't want that. M$ claims to give their customers a choice. There are a few things that I have to have if I play. Let's see how much that will cost me to own a 360:
XBOX 360 = $400
Wireless Adapter - $100
Online Gaming - $50 (a year)
Essentials total - $550
All this is included with the PS3 for $50 more, not to mention a ton of other additions that come standard.
After two years of owning a 360 a person would have paid a total of at least $500 if you include $50 a year in XBL fees.
ps3 is 5 times better then the xbox360 . the cell will be the best cpu out not xbox360 and one more fact ps3 had abetter gpu
Why do you say the wii will play better? Because of the motion sensitivity and using the wiimote to controle where your gun is pointing? Think about it, what if it is too sensitive to the motion, next thing you know you have a gun going all over the place and you can't control it.
I have some friends who have been lucky enough to play the wii before launch and the fact is the wii isn't going to compete in the graphics department of the console war. So the only way they can make up for it is gameplay now what if the screw up the gameplay for Call Of Duty 3 because It is way to sensitive? There is no reason to play it on the wii anymore, you will play it on you XBOX 360 or PS3.
I have seen a few gameplay videos of Call Of Duty 3 on the wii from when one of my friends got to test it. It looked extremely hard to control the character because it was too sensitive.
I will not be buying this game for the wii, I will be buying it for the 360. It's not that I don't like the wii it's that the wii hasn't proven that its new control system works. And all of you lazy fat gamers out there who want remote disc changers for your 360 sure as hell aren't gonna like this console, cause you are going to get tired of moving you hands and arms all over, its easier to use thumbsticks.
Anyway this game looks amazing and I will definantly buy it and it will probably be one of my favorite games, as Call Of Duty 2 is my favorite game for 360 and always as been. I am looking forward to next weeks release of Splinter Cell: Double Agent. Which is also gonna suck on the wii!
It's starting to look like everything is going to suck on the wii! Well, I guess it's going to be between Microsoft and Sony as Nintendo apeals to little kiddies and adult loser lazy gamers......
Xbox live is gonna be better than sonys service so ***** you
Am I the only one that thinks the Wii version looks like total horse*****? Jaggies, low-res textures, pitiful geometry. I can't believe that people are being paid to make this ***** and that there are idiots out there that would actually pay $250 for that trash console.
By the way, #3, you're a total retard. The real facts are that the PS3 is more powerful than the *****box 360. The Cell is one of the most powerful CPUs on the planet right now. It's being used for a super computer cluster, which will include some PS3s. The RSX is more than capable of matching or surpassing XBox 360 graphics. Blu-Ray will give developers more than enough space to built large immersive games without space restrictions. PS3 is simply better.
Gamepro has a comparisson on their website of the two next-gen systems and that last-gen children's toy (Wii) and the PS3 handily beats the Xbox 360.
No doubt, PS3 FTW come 11/17!
To all the posters above me, STFU, you god damn f'ing crap-holes.
The moment a news is posted about a game that will soon be released on all three consoles, retards like you people come jumping on the news siptting out your immature comments. Why cant you write anything about "Call of Duty 3" as a game.. NOT the systems the game will be releasing on.
For me, personally, CoD3 is sounding more intense and realistic.. even better than CoD2. I am excited and will be buying this game when it is released.
Get a f'ing life, people and be mature when posting your comments. Enough of this console wars. Be happy with what you have bought with your hard earned money and let the other person enjoy his!
Thanks!
SEGA GENISIS FTW!!!!
Ok children, did we all forget that as long as the game is awesome it doesn't matter what system you can play it on. Everyone sounds like they are getting a hard on by describing the GPUs, CPUs, ABC's and 123's.
Graphics do not matter.... gameplay does.
It's like having a supermodel as a girlfriend: Pretty to look at, but that's all there is to it.
Also you can have the best system in the world (hardware wise) but what good is it if the developers can't do anything with it.
So there, all the fan boys can argue all they want to, but remember:
Arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics:Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Laterz
I AM NOT BUYING COD 3
I`d rather wait for the Infinaty ward COD4 than get, no.3; the dev's making it did the console COD's and Big Red One.
Seriously the best thing about COD 1 (best cod by a mile) and 2 was the ease of KB + mouse, and the plentiful mods that follow. A COD LAN is great.
I reckon 3 may score around the 80% mark, juding by the previous consolised CODs minus COD 2. If i find out it has co-op THEN i might think about it. Honestly i`d rather Resistance or Motorstorm, let alone Warhawk.
ps3 cpu-cell (3.2 ghz power-based ppe with seven 3.2ghz spes) 167(aprox)gflops 10 billion dot products per second
xbox360 cpu-3.2 ghz ibm powerpc tri-core 115 gflops
9.1 billion dot products per second
ps3 wins in cpu
ps3 memory-256 mb XDR @ 3.2 GHZ
256 mb GDDR3 @ 700 MHZ
xbox360 memory-512 mb gddr3 @ 700 mhz shared between cpu and gpu 10 mb embedded edram
ps3 win in memory before u say xbox hads better memory look at the specs.u know bill gates is a lair he say 360 is better but it not f bill gates
ps3 gpu-550 MHZ RSX( based on nvidia G70 architecture) 2 tflops (theoretical) 74.8 billion shader operation per second (100 billion with the cpu)
33 billion dot products per second (51 billion with cpu)
dot products per second distinct pixel and vertex shaders, sm3.0
xbox360 gpu-500 MHZ xenos(ATI custom design) 1 tflops
(syetem theoretical)48 billon shader operation per second
24 billion dot products per second (33.6 billion per secondt heoretical maximum when summed with cpu operation)unifi ed shaders,sm3.0 + 10 mb edram (internal bandwidth of 256gb/s)
ps3 wins here to but power donot metter its the game that do
Wii version should be fun, but they did bad on the graphics. If the Wii is better than the GC in graphics, then Call for Duty could get close to at least Metroid Prime quality of GC.... GG
Not because I give a shizt about loyalty to a freaken company, but because its going to be online enabled and thats what made cod2 so much fun for the 360. Nintendo already said that the Wii will not support games online untill 2007. Sony has two problems: 1) Their whole aproach to gaming online is kind of a big f' you to the player. Making it up to the game companies to support online or not (we saw how that ended up for ps2). 2) Seeing as how its going to be almost impossible to score a ps3 at launch even if i wanted one (and i remind you cod3 is coming out at around ps3 launch) I wouldn't want to wait 3 months to play a game thats already out. I dont really care if nintendo, sony or microsoft win the "CONSOLE WAR TM" i just want to play my god damn games.
Everybody please stop spouting crap about specs, you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
Facts when comparing X360 cpu (xenon) to PS3 cpu (Cell):
Both 3.2ghz
X360 is tri-core, 64bit, two thread per core
PS3 Cell is 64bit, 7 operational independant SPE (ie self suficient threads)
Ideal code perfomce Cell can outstrip Xenon
Generic code performance, Xenon outstrips Cell
Real world, specifically designed game performance: EXACTLY THE SAME!!!
And please don't compare X360/PS3 screens to Wii for COD3. The Wii has been given the exact same version as the Xbox and PS2, with updated controls. The reason for this is that Activision anticipated the Wii to be a flop when they began production. They are using Wii as a dumping ground, just like EA and Ubisoft were, but Ubisoft seems to be coming round. Remember these three companies releases early days on DS which they also used as a dumping ground? Absolute crap! Gaming would be a lot better of today without the major publishers.
Apparantly none of you are computer programmers because if you understood technical computing functions in the slightest way you would realize that the way the XBOX 360's CPU and GPU are outlined give it far superior flexibility and raw power...
You people are seriously retarded
For one you cant compare the power of the Xbox360 vs the PS3 in default benchmarks.
The Cell is indeed the better processor for certain applications and the Xenon is better for certain applications.
The Cell is a raw power processor. It crushes the Xbox360 CPU in terms of raw power. This means that games will have better features that require raw processing power like physics.
The Xbox360 CPU is the same as desktop CPUs, its added features give it the extra boost for applications and calculations. So it works better in transferring data from one peripheral to another. This is why you wont see cell processor used in applications that require large amount of data to be sent back and forth.
Now on with the graphics cards, both are nearly equal in power. Both have their advantages and weaknesses and the PC counterparts prove that.
Its like the 7800 vs the 1800. Both run better at certain games and both have advantages above the other and to say that one is far superior to the other is just being stupid.
Flexability and power are not the problem with the PS3. Its a new way of programming. Developers only said it was hard because its different. How many people easily made the transition from every version of photoshop with no hurdles? There isnt one person out there who had a smooth transition from version to version, something moved, new features, means that you need to rework yourself around it.
ps3 cpu-cell (3.2 ghz power-based ppe with seven 3.2ghz spes) 167(aprox)gflops 10 billion dot products per second
xbox360 cpu-3.2 ghz ibm powerpc tri-core 115 gflops
9.1 billion dot products per second
ps3 wins in cpu
ps3 memory-256 mb XDR @ 3.2 GHZ
256 mb GDDR3 @ 700 MHZ
xbox360 memory-512 mb gddr3 @ 700 mhz shared between cpu and gpu 10 mb embedded edram
ps3 win in memory before u say xbox hads better memory look at the specs.u know bill gates is a lair he say 360 is better but it not f bill gates
ps3 gpu-550 MHZ RSX( based on nvidia G70 architecture) 2 tflops (theoretical) 74.8 billion shader operation per second (100 billion with the cpu)
33 billion dot products per second (51 billion with cpu)
dot products per second distinct pixel and vertex shaders, sm3.0
xbox360 gpu-500 MHZ xenos(ATI custom design) 1 tflops
(syetem theoretical)48 billon shader operation per second
24 billion dot products per second (33.6 billion per secondt heoretical maximum when summed with cpu operation)unifi ed shaders,sm3.0 + 10 mb edram (internal bandwidth of 256gb/s)
ps3 wins here
IBM WAS THE ONE WHO SAID PS3 IS FAR BETTER THAN XBOX360 READ THE F@##ING SPECS BEFOR U TALK DUM ASS
DONT SAY XBOX360 IS BETTER WHEN IT IS NOT. ALL OF YA XBOX GAYBOYS KNOW PS3 IS FAR BETTER
I agreed 100% (although I wouldn't use the same language ;)).
And #20, would you please shutup about specs, you're adding nothing new to an arguement which has raged since before E3 2005. Besides, you're like many I've seen when it comes to console specs, using the same kind of logic which suggests that the fastest athlete MUST be the one with the longest legs, and the smartest guy MUST be the one with the biggest head
Anyway, going back to COD3....
I'm sure you do work for a "computer programmING". Why don't you get to work on that key board of yours? The CAP key is broken.
wow....who gives a crap about what system is better on paper, Its all up to the game developers on how the game looks...
The real FACTS are....The PS3 and 360 screens both look B-E-A-UTIFUL! How can you guys fight over screen shots that look AMAZING on BOTH systems. get a life already people.
I honestly dont see a difference in the PS3 and 360 screens .
To the guy who said "You people are seriously retarded u cannot read specs ps3 is far better"
You're the retard if you instantly look at specs and say something is better..yes the cell is faster at certain things but not everything and though on paper ps3 sounds faster the system isnt as efficient as 360.
#12, you are my hero...
that just cause the Wii has a new controller that it will be any better, but I'm hoping. What startles me, is the extreme lower quality of the Wii version. I don't think this is a problem with the Wii (It's able to do a lot of NICE stuff, just not in HD) I think the developers have skimped and forgone a lot of the lighting nicities that are afforded the other versions.
I pretty much agre with number 16.
Ill get it for the X360 bc it will be better online and stuff.!
Ive seen both screens on both systems , they are IDENTICAL, its proven look it up u ps3 fanyboy *****s. And the retard that said xbox gayboys, wtf by saying that u automatically become a ps3 gayboy, not to mention everyone whining and the damn ps3 hasnt even been released yet.
im sorry but truth is PS3 = XBOX360
Its a tie, and any one with at least a couple of years of computer experience can tell you that. So i will be getting both.
we've been lied to.
No way is the Wii a GC+ if those screenies are anything to go by. They are like PS2 launch graphics from 5 years ago!
Yeah, exactly what I'm saying. Something's up. I think a previous poster was right. They just used their crappy GC engine cause they think the Wii was just gonna be a flop. And all this bull***** about "graphics don't matter" they think they can get away with giving us *****.
Graphics do matter. Maybe not as much as gameplay, but we all want better graphics all other things equal.
It's a multi-platform game. So it'll look almost exactly the same on both the 360 and the PS3. The only difference will be Wii, which will have downgraded graphics.
Guys you have to remember that even if the Wii is 2X as powerful as a GC, that these are first gen games and you are all looking at last gen super optimized out the ass GC games as a comparison....so yeah don't be surprised if the games look like GC games for awhile.
I like the idea, but probably only for short bursts, and i'm not a fat dude...for 6+ hour gaming sessions I don't want to wave a wand around.
So ya, depending on how addictive GOW is, I may get this just for the online...have to see how it pans out.
For those argueing PS3 vs 360, I have seen one post that actually understands the consoles, otherwise people, go to arstechnica.com, search for xenon vs cell and read away...you should find about 30-40 pages of indepth analysis on both systems. It's a moot arguement anyways, look at the screens they are pretty much identical, so both sides can shut it....
Yeah cod3 looks good but not too big of a fan. Not thinkin about gettin it for any system. Cant wait for wii to come out. It's Gonne be a celebration *****ES!!!!
***** All of you
If i get an xbox 360 ill probably get cod3 for it cuz it looks cool. the thing is the real difference is theres more detail, all objects have a shine to them and you can see beams of light comming through the clouds. Nm else, but i probably forgot something. Sure graphics matter, but if you have the sweetest looking game that sux in game play, would u get it? Nintendo did over emphisise the gameplay over graphics, but i dont need a super graphical jump from this gen to the next. Nintendo may flop and if parents are anything to go by it will, (even though fanboys will keep it alive.) i know im no jipsy and i sure can't predict the future. Anyone here?
>"you're like many I've seen when it comes to console specs, using the same kind of logic which suggests that the fastest athlete MUST be the one with the longest legs, and the smartest guy MUST be the one with the biggest head :p"
LOL! Agreed.
lol, you are just sooo funny, so some M$ fanboys continue to live up to their reputations eh?
ps:
1st: the ps3 is more powerfull
2nd: the xbox 360 is good, but the games on the consoles aren't ( exept for 3-4 exclusive games like gears of war, blue dragon, lost odyssey, ninety nine nights(even if gamespot put a 6 it looks too good for a 6))
3rd: the wii is for kids OR for fast action and instant fun, I personally love complexity so the wii is... not for me.
4th: poster #3 you are really stubborn and stupid to post this kind of *****, I suppose you really trust yourself wich is even worse... I suppose some kids under 18 are on this site only to bash, but personnally I live the 3 consoles and bash nobody! I can understant the ps3 is more powerfull with it's impressive floating points. ps: you will understand the differance between the ps3 and xbox 360 in 2 years I'd say, when the second gen of ps3 arrive. The xbox360 second gen is great also, like gears of war but anyway, I just wanted to say you have to buy the console for the games, because the most beautifull graphics of the world won't give you more than 1 hours of fun, after you understand.
pps:
I really dislike bashers like #2.
and for my oppinion, I'm with sony, and the wii for my 3 little sisters. and my singstar on ps3 for my little sis. But no xbox 360, I'll wait for a price drop, 5 games is not enough for me to pay 400$US
They look identical, now STFU. I love my 360, but being a fanboy to any system is not cool. Just shut up, you know they look identical now stop being little bi*ches about it.
I guarantee that absolutely NONE of these people here have any computer programmING knowledge what-so-ever, don't listen to any of them.
Oh, and #5, I can play Saint's Row and Dead Rising without freezing, you just suck.
finally I'd say the ps3 screens looks better, maybe only the selection of screens though.
and the wii screens are pretty bad, almost current gen...
the wii enphasis on the control instead of graphics so it's normal but...
SHUT THE ***** UP 360, ps3 & wii fanboys, you all are giving useless facts everyone knows 360 and ps3 are the same, stop trying to convince people. O and wii fans idk go talk somewhere else this is big boy talk....
shut the heck up you bunch of loser fanboys. PC owns all of them so get over it.
This is the kind of logic and grammer in a ps3 fanboy's mind,
"ps3 win in memory before u say xbox hads better memory look at the specs.u know bill gates is a lair he say 360 is better but it not f bill gates"
--"finally I'd say the ps3 screens looks better, maybe only the selection of screens though."
Hmmm, and if they suddenly announce "Oops, sorry guys, we've labelled the 360 and PS3 screens the wrong way by mistake", certain gamers claiming the PS3 were better will be saying "Ah, I see, er... now that I look at the screens more closely, the other screens DO seem to be a little better afterall".
To me (and I'm sure most gamers here), they look on par with each other. There really isn't anything to differentiate between the 360 and PS3 screens, and imo the only gamers claiming either 360 or PS3 screens are better are fanboys.
I . . . I . . .got . . .ugh. . ffffffffffftttt tt. ahhhhhhhh.
shut the heck up you bunch of loser fanboys. PC owns all of them so get over it.
nobody knows what to expect for the playstation network, so those of you who discrediting it need to chillax until details are released
The PS3 is more powerful and thats a FACT.
Heres another fact.
Any multi-console game will look identical. Only the exclusive titles will look better on either console so it wont be possible to compare them.
But its a fact that the PS3 can easily output on par graphics of the Xbox360. COD3 and Enchanted Arms proves that.
But what we have not seen is PS3 exclusive games. Splinter Cell Double Agent is a Wii and Xbox360 game so in reality its a Xbox360 game is you want good graphics. Is it looking better then MGS4 which is a PS3 exclusive game? No way, MGS4 blows Double Agent out of the water, there isnt even a question that MGS4 is better then splinter cell, its a fact.
Xbox360 has some good lookin games. Fact being, the Xbox360 is already seeing its problems when developers are pushing the system. There are people even with the "new" revision of the Xbox360 getting the red lights. So what does that tell us? That the Xbox360 has a limit to its power because of its design.
The PS3 at TGS proved the same thing, under certain conditions of stress, the system will not work properly.
CoD3 looks identical on the Xbox360 and the PS3. You cant compare until you get still shots of the same place in the game. So those who say either of them are better, your eyes need to be checked because these screenshots are low quality themselves.
In terms of which console will have better looking games in the future, it will be the PS3. There will be no denying it, XBox360 fanboys can cry and scream all they want that both consoles will always be identical, but a developer will tap into the full power of the PS3 and unleash its fury, until that time, the console wars are tied, Xbox360 sales are getting lower and lower and will get a minor surge over holidays. 10million lead? I dont think so.
By the end of 2007, the PS3 will have bypassed the Xbox360 in sales, its a fact, get over it, XBox360 could drop their price to 300 and 200 still, by the end of 2007 PS3 will have the lead.
PC indeed owns them all. Theres no question about that. Consoles wouldnt exist if it werent for the massive PC gaming industry. So therefore PC will always be king and the Xbox360 and PS3 will always be the pawns. PC games control what type of games come to the consoles.
sure, the ps3 HAS better graffics then xbox 360 BUT does not move around as easy as Xbox 360, meaning when someone runs it skips instead of just showing them run. And there is NO chance that Wii is better then either one, you saw the gamecube. it sucks!!! What makes you think the wiis going to be better? cus theres 2 controllers?
What if the blu-ray player becomes the standard for movies. If that's true, *even if* the 360 and ps3 are about equal in specs, the ps3 will have more room for more emmense exclusive titles.
Listen, the only reason I didn't get an x-box 360 is because I at least wanted to wait until the ps3 came out before I decided on my console (to have both, since most 3rd party titles will be identical, is pretty dumb) but the way I look at it, the PS3 offers more stuff besides games and can easily do what the 360 can do. The prices are the same if you include all the rediculous 360 accesories (wireless adaptor is a must) so it basically depends on which exclusive titles you like more and which format is going to win the format wars (HD-DVD or Blu-ray). So, if you're a Halo guy, go with 360. If you're a Socom guy, go for ps3. As for me, I'm a Ratchet and Clank guy...
To each their own. If you're a 360 owner I'm not going to hate on you, the only reason to hate on that person wuld be through jealousy of their exclusive titles (uh, Halo and ... .... Halo). Same goes vice-versa, except the PS3 has more disk space, tools, and the PS2 library coming over in sequals. Obviously I'm a tad (wee bit) biased, but I think that some (not all) 360 owners are just mad because they might have bought theirs early just to get into next-gen and they want to see what a PS3 can do. But... whatever, you can't take anything you read on the internet seriously
What is up with that guy's hand in the last screenshot of the Wii version. Looks like he has giant claws for hands. I've seen PSP games with better character models.
All of you are *****s, nobody gives a crap about whether or not I can see a bead of sweat on a guys faces. Its the same *****ing game. I doubt 99.9% of people buying this game know what specs are. I know that aslong I can kill some damn Nazis I'm happy and so will everybody else who has a life outside of games.
wii sucks
why are you guys putting f### instead of *****
You talk out your ass man, sorry to be blunt.
Mainly your last remark shows your limited knowledge on the subject. The console as a means of playing video games was around a LONG time before the home PC was ever even thought of as a machine to entertain us. If anything it was the console that lead to the PC's popularity...but really it was a matter of time.
Read This...
http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/cpu/xbox360-2.ars
It draws comparisons to what we know about the PS3...i'll leave it at that and let you know that you are wrong and your post sounds desperate.
GOW vs MGS4, nuff said....
dr grim.
it's always been stated that there is very little difference between PSx and xbox 360. i'm not sure where you got those specs, but the xenos and xenon have advantages over the RSX in some cases and the cell and rsx in others. the consoles both have their strong and weak points.
this quote gives you an example of this
"cores and three VMX vector units (one per core) while the PS3 has one CPU core, one vector unit, and seven SPEs. These differences found in both consoles’ architectures result in the Xbox 360 having more general purpose power than the PS3 while the PlayStation 3 has more floating-point performance (2 TFLOPs against 1 TFLOP of the Xbox 360 to be precise). Isn’t this a major advantage of the PS3 over the Xbox 360?
Todd Holmdahl: No. The PS3’s vaunted teraflop “advantage” is only an advantage on paper, because the PS3’s performance will be limited by its architecture. Real games are about 80% general purpose code and about 20% floating point code. Xbox 360 has three 3.2 GHz general purpose processors to Sony’s one, and it is these main cores, not special purpose SPEs, that are best suited for game code.
The PS3’s design requires high levels of floating point performance, because the PS3 GPU is unable to do automatic load balancing between pixels and vertices, so performance will drop off during vertex processing. The PS3’s design requires that the CPU take up the slack. On Xbox 360, we do not plan for the CPU to do any vertex processing at all, which leaves all of the processor’s power for game simulation code.
Floating point performance is much more relevant on the GPU, where Xbox 360 has more floating point performance than PS3. Not only does the Xbox 360 GPU have greater raw shader power than the PS3 GPU (240 GFLOPS versus estimated 228.8 GFLOPS on PS3), it will also use more of its power. The Xbox 360’s unified shader model will automatically optimize graphics for each game (vertex or pixel shading), without the developer having to write any extra code. Xbox 360 will also have embedded DRAM to avoid bandwidth bottlenecks and to give developers “free” anti-aliasing to eliminate jagged edges in every game.
Both systems have 512 MB of memory, but we gave developers the flexibility to decide how they use it, while Sony’s split memory architecture is more limited in its options. (We actually looked at the split memory architecture and decided not to use it because of those limitations).
Sony’s emphasis on certain areas of the PS3’s performance is a nice way to distract attention from the fact that they seem to have no response to Xbox Live. Only Xbox 360 has the hardware, software and services to enable the complete gaming and entertainment experience."
;)
if the difficulty of programming for the ps2 was too great, then i don't think there would be as many games as there are. And the person who shout out about beads of sweat, compare fight night for 360 and PS3. I'd rather have my guy sweat like the PS3 version...but thats just me.
once again games will be the deciding factor both system look great ps3 and xbox 360 so it is a tie in the graphics department but xbox 360 has better online so xbox 360 wins this match.
As far as power goes you sony fanboys have got it wrong again.
The 360 512mb + extra 10MB for graphics while PS3 is limited to only 256mb ( yes the ps3 can use XDR for more, but it's not ). As far as graphic memory speed 360 has the advantage with 700mhz GDDR3 while the ps3 has been reduced to 650mhz GDDR3. Not to mention 360 has double the shaders 48 vs 24.
Don't even get into cpu power, the 360 has 3 time the general proccessing power of the ps3. Yes the ps3 has better floating point, but we are talking games here not video playback!
What the point of bluray and all this space when ps3 only has 256mb of memory for the gpu? I guess it goes back to CG which sony loves.
One thing is for sure PS3 or 360 COD3 is for these consoles will rock. Wii on the other hand is not on any real gaming league, still GC crap.
>"The PS3 is more powerful and thats a FACT."
Yes, but the PS3 is only SLIGHTLY more powerful than the 360, and that's a FACT.
You are just as bad as the gamers you complain about who say the two are identical in power. On one side we have gamers claiming there's no difference between the 360 and PS3, and on the other side, we have gamers claiming there's a big difference between the two.
So I repeat, the PS3 is only SLIGHTLY more powerful than the 360, a difference which is not enough to suggest one console will have better looking games than the other, not now nor in the future. As said by some of the more sensible gamers here, both consoles have their strengths and weaknessess, therefore expect BOTH consoles to be host to some of the best graphics over the years.
Anyway, this is probably wasted on you Vietone, since I notice you seem to be incapable of participating in a full discussion here. You simply turn up in a thread, post your comments and run, rarely responding when challenged.
fight! fight! fight! fight!
Hehe, not a fight, just a preference. :)
I like discussions with people who can defend their arguements and engage in a conversation. I dislike those who simply post and run off, making ridiculous claims but never offering proof or defence.
So if we're talking about a fight, think of hand to hand combat compared to sniping, hence I have no respect for the online sniper. :)
some posters above think they know everthing about computers and specs, and it is about a game and not console hardware.
fact ps3 is 2x of xbox360 power and for all u fanboy dont say 360 had better gpu cpu when it dont read the specs .that why 360 came out before ps3 because bill gates know if they would have come out on the same time ps3 did .they will lose because of ps3 power
all u have to know The PS3 is more powerful and thats a FACT." xbox360 is not next gen fact ps3 and wii are fact
"fact ps3 is 2x of xbox360 power"
The ignorance is strong in this one. Another gamer who follows the logic specified in #22.
ps3 cell hads one core and 7 spes running at 3.2 ghz
4 core
and for gpu eveybody knows nvidia is better then ati in some ways thats why ps3 is 550mhz and xbox360 is 500mhz
ps3 cpu-cell (3.2 ghz power-based ppe with seven 3.2ghz spes) 167(aprox)gflops 10 billion dot products per second
xbox360 cpu-3.2 ghz ibm powerpc tri-core 115 gflops
9.1 billion dot products per second
ps3 gpu-550 MHZ RSX( based on nvidia G70 architecture) 2 tflops (theoretical) 74.8 billion shader operation per second (100 billion with the cpu)
33 billion dot products per second (51 billion with cpu)
dot products per second distinct pixel and vertex shaders, sm3.0
xbox360 gpu-500 MHZ xenos(ATI custom design) 1 tflops
(syetem theoretical)48 billon shader operation per second
24 billion dot products per second (33.6 billion per secondt heoretical maximum when summed with cpu operation)unifi ed shaders,sm3.0 + 10 mb edram (internal bandwidth of 256gb/s)
ps3 memory-256 mb XDR @ 3.2 GHZ
256 mb GDDR3 @ 700 MHZ
xbox360 memory-512 mb gddr3 @ 700 mhz shared between cpu and gpu 10 mb embedded
i like xbox ps3 wii but stop saying xox360 = ps3 when u know it dont just say it ps3 is better this gen but maybe xbox be better nexts gen like last gen xbox was better and they had good games
Will you stop posting crap you don't understand, you only show yourself to be ignorant.
It's the same thing posted earlier, except under a different name, and people have responded to it already.
XBOX 360 is a MUCH more powerful gaming machine. I am a professional computer programmer and game designer. (won't spill the beans on which company though)
The 360 512mb + extra 10MB for graphics while the PS3 is limited to only 256mb. As far as graphic memory speed 360 has the advantage with 700mhz GDDR3 while the ps3 has been reduced to 650mhz GDDR3. Not to mention 360 has double the shaders 48 vs 24.
(The PS3’s vaunted teraflop “advantage” is only an advantage on paper, because the PS3’s performance will be limited by its architecture. Real games are about 80% general purpose code and about 20% floating point code. Xbox 360 has three 3.2 GHz general purpose processors to Sony’s one, and it is these main cores, not special purpose SPEs, that are best suited for game code.)
Don't even get into cpu power, the 360 has 3 time the general proccessing power of the ps3. Yes the ps3 has better floating point, but we are talking games here not video playback!
What the point of bluray and all this space when ps3 only has 256mb of memory for the gpu? I guess it goes back to CG which sony loves.
This new layout makes all the references to post numbers redundant (i.e. #65).
Guess I'll just have to refer to people by name from now on and use the reply feature (when it works).
So jjbs, shut up about specs you don't understand and try talking about COD3....please.
ps3 cpu-cell (3.2 ghz power-based ppe with seven 3.2ghz spes) 167(aprox)gflops 10 billion dot products per second
xbox360 cpu-3.2 ghz ibm powerpc tri-core 115 gflops
9.1 billion dot products per second
ps3 wins in cpu
ps3 memory-256 mb XDR @ 3.2 GHZ
256 mb GDDR3 @ 700 MHZ
xbox360 memory-512 mb gddr3 @ 700 mhz shared between cpu and gpu 10 mb embedded edram
ps3 win in memory before u say xbox hads better memory look at the specs.u know bill gates is a lair he say 360 is better but it not f bill gates
ps3 gpu-550 MHZ RSX( based on nvidia G70 architecture) 2 tflops (theoretical) 74.8 billion shader operation per second (100 billion with the cpu)
33 billion dot products per second (51 billion with cpu)
dot products per second distinct pixel and vertex shaders, sm3.0
xbox360 gpu-500 MHZ xenos(ATI custom design) 1 tflops
(syetem theoretical)48 billon shader operation per second
24 billion dot products per second (33.6 billion per secondt heoretical maximum when summed with cpu operation)unifi ed shaders,sm3.0 + 10 mb edram (internal bandwidth of 256gb/s)
ps3 wins here
IBM WAS THE ONE WHO SAID PS3 IS FAR BETTER THAN XBOX360 READ THE F@##ING SPECS BEFOR U TALK DUM ASS
Witness the real power of the rsx and cell combined!!!
http://www.wii60.com/videogames.php?image=1851.jpg
Before and after comparison from ps3 e3 05 to now! The 360 in-game screenshot blow away anything the PS3 can muster up. Below is the link for the comparison, PS3 fanboys don't start crying when you realize you have been lied too. FACT is the 360 is a better games machine performance wise, if you can't see that in the link below you are either blind or a sony fanboy.
http://www.wii60.com/videogames.php?image+1851.jpg