2K prez: Wii flooded with crappy titles

Posted Jan 14, 2009 at 1:45PM by QJ Staff Listed in: Wii Tags: 2K Games
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2K: Wii flooded by crappy titles - Image 1Someone had to say it. In a recent interview, 2K boss Christoph Hartmann remarked that the Wii market is flooded by "crappy titles," making it hard for the real gems to shine:

Where people go wrong in the casual market is that, while the development costs are exploding on the casual side, they're treating the Wii like the old PC market - making cheap, accessible games.


They think if they make ten titles and two are hits, they will finance the other eight. But they forget these eight crappy titles will flood the market and will lead to problems in terms of production - and upset retailers. Also, the consumer will be pissed off because they'll be confused.


2K's own Carnival Games, which got meager, if not downright stinky, ratings from critics, was a commercial success. Hmm... I honestly don't know whether Carnival Games would be considered a "crappy title" or not, based on those facts. Anyway, on the success of the game, Hartmann comments:

Had we released it last week, it would have been much tougher. ThereÂ’s far too much stuff in the Wii market [now] and itÂ’s hard to shine. While the Wii is the strongest growing console, itÂ’s a risk not to have well known brands in your games.




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by 93pauott - 2009-01-14 08:40
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by ISOHaven - 2009-01-14 08:40
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

UGH! Total flame bait!!!



The 360 and PS3 have TONS of bombs as well.

by pholly - 2009-01-14 10:11
» Not really

If you look at the number of crappy games compared to the number of games overall the Wii is by far the leader of crap. The problem is that the Wii is just a gimick kids console with the exception of a handful of games there's nothing worth playing. That's why the 360 has the highest attach rate in consoles. The biggest problem is it's cheap to develop for so the game makers can keep churning out crap since it's cheap to do so on a Wii. People buy a wii to play Wii Sports and believing the hype that it's so wonderful then after a month it's a dust collector and takes a back seat to the 360, PS3 or even the PS2 if the person has one. Just face facts, there are no great games on the Wii and the supposed motion controls aren't as they seem unless you buy the new addon that makes the movements accurate. I wouldn't recommend a Wii to anyone, I haven't played mine in 6 months or more.

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-14 10:54
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

I didn't say anything about about who has more. Don't ASSume information. I said they all have crap.



So who flipping cares?

by Shazman1984 - 2009-01-14 11:14
» hmmmm

Wii still pwns everybody. Big developers need to stop complaining and just making a damn good game on the wii.

by Techni - 2009-01-14 12:47
» The 360 and PS3 have TONS of bombs as well.

"The 360 and PS3 have TONS of bombs as well. "



No they don't. Wii has a much higher percentage of crap games than it's competitors

by Random1800 - 2009-01-14 14:29
» uhhhh no it doesn't

LOL, the wii was such a dissapointment, the only good game is ssbb and zelda. its graphics are the same as gamecube!!! nintendo whent to crap starting with wii, before that i loved nintendo. i hate that white peice of crap!!!!

by Shazman1984 - 2009-01-14 14:47
» Tsk Tsk.

Funny isn't it, such a crappy system is beating the hell outta sony and microsoft. What, next your gonna tell me the psp is winning..... Ha.... hahahaha!!! sony and microsoft fanboys need to shut up and take their ass whopping like a man.

by Jtcp - 2009-01-14 14:54
» I agree

No matter what anyone says, love it or hate it the numbers don't lie, the wii sells and kills all other consoles in regards to sales, that's just a fact.

I find it ironic though that this big fat ass from 2K complains about there being so many bad games for the wii and has himself released the carnival games series for it, what a fckng hypocrite. How about said douche bag stops complaining about *****ty wii games and starts making great ones himself!

Random1800, you're a disappointment and your comment is an EPIC FAIL dude. There are about 35 wii games worth owning. Don't believe me, then check it out and keep checking it out

Real unbiased wii game reviews found here:

http://wiivolution.wordpress.com/

by NakedFaerie - 2009-01-14 15:00
» I didnt read it

I didnt read it but I have to agree with the title.

The Wii does have a LOT of crap games. a LOT arnt worth buying and are priced way to high.



I'm not comparing the games to PS3 and 360 but if I did they wouldnt even come close to the quality. The Wii has the lowest quality of games out atm. They look really bad. I also hate the controller. I prefer a controller like the 360 or PS3 compared to the wiimote which is a very uncomfortable block in your hand. Next time make it fit the hand kinda like the nunchuck which still needs work on it. At least the 360 controller is comfortable to play with.



As for the games, there are too many new devs making poor games and flodding the market with crap. How about combining about 5 of your games into 1 and make a good game.



Flame me all you want but its true. Get a game on the PS3/360 and compare it to the Wii version. You wont finish the Wii version as its crap compared to the PS3/360 version.

by Techni - 2009-01-14 16:39
» numbers do lie

Sales do not equal quality

by Mister Common Sense - 2009-01-14 16:53
» .

Sony and Microsoft have something Nintendo doesn't, QUALITY STANDARDS.



now isoheavy knows the Wii game lineup is 95% crap, but FAILS to openly admit it.

by potat4o - 2009-01-14 17:34
» @ISOHaven

You sir, are in denial.

by NEOL - 2009-01-14 20:57
» yep

agree with you

by SikWitThiz - 2009-01-15 01:57
» Wii People are in denial

I bought the Wii in 07. It sucks to me not just because of the games its but because who wants to pay $50 for low quality games. If they sold the games for say around $30 from the start then I wouldn't say ***** about their games. $50 for the last gen level of games is steep. I know we can't compare the Wii with Sony and M$ because it's pointless. But the Wii is the Cube with a new dress on. My kids play more Cube games than the Wii games. In the last 6 months they maybe only played it twice. People sadly mistake the sales of a low costing system for quality. If Nintendo had the funds to make a current Gen system they would have. They lost plenty of money on their Cartridge era. That's why we have the Wii now. It took them to long to adapt to the disc age. I liked the gamecube its self but to make a gamecube 2 with out it being better than the last wasn't to smart in my opinion. The Wii has its small perks but it certainly is the best thing on the market.

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-15 05:02
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

You people are such idiotic fanboys.



ALL THREE SYSTEMS HAVE CRAP GAMES.



Anyone who denies that is an f'ing idiot.



Which console has MORE....that's for you idiots to argue about.

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-15 05:07
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

Wrong again techni. Numbers DO NOT lie.



The Wii offer QUALITY entertainment. What you FAIL to understand is that QUALITY is subjective. Obvious the MAJORITY do NOT AGREE with your take on the subject.



MAJORITY matters. Not you. That's why numbers never lie. The numbers in question are SALES and the NUMBER of purchasers.



So for you to say numbers don't matter or number lie....is for you to say that people don't matter. Which is funny, because that would include yourself!



Have you gotten over it yet?

by Shazman1984 - 2009-01-15 09:22
» Heh.

SikWitThiz - "The Wii has its small perks but it certainly is the best thing on the market. " What can i say, i agree with that line 120%.

by FlagBearer - 2009-01-15 13:36
» You are wrong

You can't see that the "MAJORITY" that Nintendo targeted were three-year-old boys who scream every night for McDonalds and should be playing on a LeapFrog console. But, they want the flashy white box that lets you be lazy and play sports like tennis, bowling, etc. for free in your living room. The parents buy it for them to avoid temper tantrums for a week and when the child realizes the Wii is boring as piss, it's back to the "I WANT ICE CREAM" tantrums.

by Vickz88 - 2009-01-18 07:53
» Obviously, but you're ignoring the point

Every single console that has been made have always had crappy games, every single one. IMO, Super Nintendo was the console with the least crappy games.



Now, in this generation, if we are to meassure up the amount of crappy games (that is, games that are barely even worth renting or looking at), it might amount to this:



XBOX 360: ~30%

PS3: ~40%

Wii: ~85%



I also agree with Cristoph Hartman, with so many crappy games on the Wii, more people will be discouraged to try and develop good games because other people might believe that it's just another worthless game. And a great amount of the people in the gaming community is losing respect for the console and even Nintendo. And when a gem of a game from a third party will arrive to the Wii, people might ignore it. That is a real shame, but it's the truth and you have to stop being in denial. I, like many, bought the Wii out of loyalty to Nintendo, but I haven't played mine since November (I bought Animal Crossing: City Folk and was extremely dissapointed).

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-18 09:22
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

Well, you got one thing right:



"IMO"



But I like how you pulled those numbers right out of your ass.

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-18 09:23
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

"three-year-old boys"



Lame! You FAIL!

by Jtcp - 2009-01-20 06:30
» What the fck do you know dip sh1t??

Why fck are you even alive, let alone talking about the price of wii games when you totally fck1ng pirate everything you have anyway (except PS3 because you cant play backups on it)?

Nobody cares what controller your prefer because it feels good in your @55.

Your comments make no sense and display no logic at all, why don't you let the big kids talk and you can go back to being violently fck3d in the mouth by your dad you fck1ng man-kunt!

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-20 10:50
» WTF!?!?!?!?!





Hahahaha!!!!!!

by Mister Common Sense - 2009-01-20 12:00
» IGN confirmed it

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/944/944828p2.html



an appropriate title for this article:



"Production Values vs. Wii Production "Values"



"Something's gone very awry on the Wii. For the console with the greatest number of releases in 2008, it also had the largest number of games that scored 4.0 or lower on IGN. That's almost a quarter of the Wii's catalogue %u2013 and that's a shocking percentage. One in four games released on Wii in 2008 flat out sucked."

"What's going on, Nintendo? What does that Seal of Quality stand for?"



1 in 4 Wii games are absolute garbage. It hasn't been that way with any successful system since the Atari 2600. Nintendo's greed is paving the way for videogame market crash #2!



Brag about those console sales before you ruin everything Nintendo!

by Mister Common Sense - 2009-01-20 12:16
» The majority is retarded aparently......

"The Wii offer QUALITY entertainment. What you FAIL to understand is that QUALITY is subjective. Obvious the MAJORITY do NOT AGREE with your take on the subject."



Wow! Learn English please! You might seem like someone intelligent at first glance at least!



http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/944/944828p2.html



Pretty much every gaming site not affiliated with Nintendo agrees, the Wii is host to more crap shovelware both in numbers and percentage than any other system in recent history.



The MAJORITY of sites, the MAJORITY of Wii owners, and the MAJORITY of non owners agree with me. It's obvious to anyone that has ever shopped for Wii games. You can even tell from the games' titles that they are completely worthless for even 5 minutes of entertainment for the $50-$30 that you must pay.



"MAJORITY matters. Not you. That's why numbers never lie. The numbers in question are SALES and the NUMBER of purchasers."



What majority? Is there any (non retarded) Wii owners that are happy with paying full price for crap shovelware and minigames?



"So for you to say numbers don't matter or number lie....is for you to say that people don't matter. Which is funny, because that would include yourself!"



Wii tards don't matter. They are not people, but the aborted fetuses of dumbasses that somehow survived. They are so stupid they will always buy Wii systems with a total void of quality software!



Have YOU gotten over it yet?



The fact that the Wii is the next Atari 2600?



I would recommend a modchip to any disgruntled Wii owner. The games will always suck ass, but at least you don't have to pay for crap software and you can help screw over Nintendo for s*itting on all their previously loyal fans!



$50 for Mario Galaxy after 2 full years on market? Go f*ck yourself Nintendo!

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-20 12:50
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

Your stupidity shines based on one simple fact. 360 and PS3 games cost MORE then Wii games. They are the highest priced games...EVER!



If anything causes a crash it'll be the fact that console manufactures are trading console cost for licensing fees.

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-21 10:39
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

"Wow! Learn English please! You might seem like someone intelligent at first glance at least!"



You mean my typo where I missed an "s"? You call that non English?



Grow up jackass.



As for the rest of your BS. The majority of internet sites counts for less then 1% of actual console owners.



So your "majority" selection pool is about as worthless as your pathetic ability to put together an intelligent comment. BTW, that stat is good for pretty much all internet versus population topics.

by Mister Common Sense - 2009-01-23 16:02
» yahoo front page news

http://videogames.yahoo.com/feature/is-the-wii-failing-to-meet-its-potential-/1281752



"According to game sales authority NPD Group, the top ten best-selling Wii games -- titles like Mario Kart, Wii Fit, and last year's number one game, Wii Play -- accounted for about 44% of all Wii game purchases in 2008. The remaining 56% spanned over 400 other titles."



I think that says it all! There are some good games, but an incredible number of horrible ones, more than any system since the Atari 2600.

by ISOHaven - 2009-01-26 09:36
» WTF!?!?!?!?!

I'm still waiting for your point. As usual you have none.



What exactly are you trying to provide for us?

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