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Sony: 2010 to be a "very robust" year for PSP, candidly, piracy really is the problem |
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2010 is going to be a "very robust" year for the PSP handheld, so says Sony. The company's been teasing some major surprises this year in the hopes of reviving interest in the platform riddled with controversy and drama, and simply put, this is all mainly because of piracy.
Rob Dyer, Sony's senior vice president of publisher relations, is looking to move forward in 2010, and reveals that they've got the third parties to help them see through it.
"I think we had a great lineup last year," he opined. He also talked about what the biggest obstacle to the PSP has been thus far, and he's conceded that Sony has pretty much failed at curbing this activity.
"The biggest problem that plagued PSP was piracy; we have not been able to slow that down. We think we have some answers going forward, but we're not ready to talk about that publicly at this point. So we're working on fixing that, because that's been a big problem.
Publishers, when they put out good games, are not getting the same sales results that they got a few years back. So piracy's been a big issue and we're working on that very diligently to bring about some solutions."
They did come out with the PSPgo in the hopes of curbing the said problem, but given its poor sales performance, even that didn't put a dent on the activities of piracy.
It's been a jampacked six years for the Sony handheld already, and yet the problem of piracy still stubbornly persists. "I think given where we're at right now, we're doing very, very well. But yes, the business has had problems and I think it all stems, candidly, from the piracy."
Via [Industry Gamers]
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It's just that simple Sony.
We let you rape us with your overpriced memory sticks when the unit first released. Then, we let you rape us with games that were riddled with bugs, too short, too expensive, and in some cases grossly overpriced much like your current 'PSP-GO' offering.
Piracy was the raped buyer's way of striking back. What's really sad is that only 40% of the current psp library is even worth 'pirating'. Most of those half-baked games would sit better on an Iphone shelf then pay the full $39.99 that you want us to pay.
Think about that before you embark on your "Robust" year.
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I sooth my conscience with the idea that by copying data, I'm not taking anything away from anybody: it's not like my taking the data caused it to be taken away from anybody else. The simple fact, though, is that it's wrong and it's hurting the industry: while I wouldn't have bought most of the games I pirated, there are some that I would've, but didn't because I could pirate them. For those who actually download games to try them out and then buy them if they like them (I'm sure some people do that, though not as many as who make the claim), I suppose that can be sort of justified (it's still illegal, though), but the majority of piracy is wrong.
Any claims of doing it to "even the score" for perceived "rip-offs" on Sony's part are pathetic excuses to try to make oneself feel better. Nobody forced you to buy a psp or an overpriced memory stick. The product was available at a particular price and you apparently thought it was worth it because you paid that price.
That said, while piracy does hurt the industry, I don't believe it hurts nearly as much as developers claim. They tend to look at each download equating $40 dollars they would have gotten, but many (perhaps more than half) of those wouldn't have bought the games anyway. I think the psp is suffering more because of lack of quality content. Yeah, they come out with good ones every now and then, but for every game worth playing that comes out for psp, 5-10 come out for ps3. The last game I bought for psp before turning to piracy was tekken: dr. Since then, the only games I would've bought are mgs:po (not plus), crisis core, dissidia, and maybe gran turismo. That's four games. In the same time I've bought close to (if not more than) 20 games for my ps3. The psp's biggest weakness is that there's just not enough really good games.
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'I want to keep my money.' Yeah, so does the person thinkering to make the stuff.
'Aw, I wouldn't have bought the game anyway', WHY THE FUCK DO YOU DOWNLOAD IT THEN? LEAVE IT ALONE.
Interesting that the only games you bought are the ones that give loads of trouble to play/download on a downgraded PSP....
In other words: You are soooo Full of 'shit' (oops did I say that?)
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Piracy=bad. I pirate. I=bad. I make excuses to make myself feel better, but it's still wrong, so I+excuses=bad. People who pirate to test and then buy if they like=gray area, but still illegal/bad.
Let's see.... anything in there about being a white knight? Hm... it looks like I called myself bad. That's kind of the opposite of white knight.
I wouldn't have bought most games because they're not worth $40 to me. There are at least 4 games that I've pirated that ARE worth $40 to me, so at the very least, that's $160 that Sony didn't get from me, that they would have if I weren't a pirate. My only point in that last paragraph was that Sony would look at the dozen or so games that I've pirated and interpret that as $480 that they've lost, when in actuality they've only lost $160. There's no justification implied for my actions: it's still wrong, whether I would've bought the game or not. The point is that it's still the lack of quality games that's hurting the psp more than the piracy.
So to recap on your conclusions: white knight? No. Condone? No. Bought games that give trouble to play on downgraded psp? No, I pirated those, too: I just said that those were the ones I would have bought if I couldn't have pirated them.
If you're going to start an argument, you should probably make sure you understand what you're arguing against first. Otherwise you sound like a moron.
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PERIOD.
When you decide to rape your primary customers with overpriced hardware, overpriced media, half-baked games, watered down ports, and games that are often riddled with bugs and no updates, you will almost always spawn a revolt amongst the buyers. 40% of what is on the psp shelves right now is NOT even worth pirating in the first place. Thank God for Monster Hunter. You guys should on your dirty knees thanking Capcom nightly for that gift.
And, I wont even start on your current PSP-GO offering which further underlines all of the above points. Don't expect the buyers to have mercy on you, if you dont show REAL gratitude to the people who support you.
...And, that's one to grow on.
Cheers
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For DS piracy you need a flashcard and a additional MicroSD-card.
For PSP, you need nothing. Just install CFW.
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(This is coming from a PS3, PSP 2000, and PSP GO owner)
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1. Nintendo is older, and to them, more reliable.
2. Games arent filled with violence and mature content.
3. Games are casual, thus wont really get kids as hooked to gaming as some of the more hardcore games.
4. The games on DS have a much larger following than the ones on PSP due to the success of the Gameboy.
Im sure there are more reasons but ya know...
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lol even if they made it without the purpose of fighting piracy, would still be crap
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Your problem is not piracy. ITS THESE TERRIBLE GAMES YOU PUT OUT ONE AFTER ANOTHER. worst bunch of crap ive ever played. and i want u all to remember this. You will NEVER get another dime from me until you apologize for the sorry bunch of SH*T you keep trying to steal my money with. oh ya and thx for the 200+ pirated games i got ill never forget how bad they were.sorry for the rant but rob dyer can suck my d*ck.
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Adding to that of 50$ is just Re-makes, Sadly the Re-makes are the Games that are GOOD LOL.
I think the New Lunar: Silver Star Harmony (witch is a Lunar Re-make) is going to be good BUT again 30$ for it is a little much, I say 20$ and a lot more people would buy it.
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"Adding to that of 50% is just Re-makes"
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Sorry for my english if I made some mistakes, it's not my language.
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The PSP is actually pretty good at remakes, and its better than casual shovelware that swamps the DS. I'd actually like a few more - maybe Street Fighter Third Strike or even Marvel vs Capcom (which it emulates brilliantly).
That said, Sony need to nurture new IP's - sadly most of the best aren't available in the West - Gundam vs Gundam & Macross Ultimate Frontier are great games that you can play even if you don't know Japanese.
I think for the most part we're all agreed - more games and realistic pricing please Rob.
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As others have said, the DS does just fine, piracy and all. The problem here is institutional incompetence at pushing the system. Lets review:
Advertising - where is it? I can't turn on the TV without seeing a Nintendo advert every ad break. With only a very limited "Whole world in your hands" campaign in the last few years, Sony's product placement is dire. Try advertising the hardware/games in key TV slots, such as Pop Idol or similar - why wasn't Rock Band or Beatorator pushed in these key slots?
Secondly, the PSP is a hardcore gamers system and should be marketed as such - I want to see adverts with tanks firing PSP bullets at Nintendo Wii's with "F**K Casual Gaming" written on the barrel.
Thirldy, PSN is dire and overpriced. There's no excuse for this, period. Sort it.
Lastly, if piracy is killing third party support (which is the main issue related to piracy) then secure your system. 6.20 seems to be pretty unhackable, so make games that need it, can't be patched and are worth having, becuase you've got a back catalogue with hundreds of games that can be played/emulated for free - to compete with that you need a string of A-List hits. May I suggest Street Fighter IV, Res Evil 5, Uncharted, more Mortorstorm (please!) and more God of War.
Get to it Rob.
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Half of the time the PSP is marketed like an ipod. Which it's not. >.>
PSN/any digital content needs to go WAY down in price as well. People pay full price for digital games when they could go get the physical complete package used somewhere for $10 sometimes $20 less. THAT's why the PSPgo is a no-go.
I'll give them props for marketing niche games at least. All the ads for MHFU and Dissidia were cool shiz.
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So simple, half the price, get rid of piracy...
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Drop the prices, remove DRM and you will see more sales.
I only have the pirated version of Socom 3 coz 1, its overpriced, 2 its got DRM in it and 3 you just suck atm.
I WAS going to buy Socom 3 over the weekend until I read in the PSN forums all the problems people are having with the new DRM in it. NO THANKS! I will just finish my copy and that'll be it for me. I never play online anyway so no loss for me but a big loss for Sony as I now wont pay for it.
I've NEVER brought a PC game with DRM in it and if PSN games are starting to have DRM then it looks like I will never buy a PSN game with it either.
YOUR LOSS SONY. You did it yourself and you have to live with it.
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WHAT? I thought overprice junk with no hardware improvement beside a Face-lift is.....
I dont know about you, why does crappy games and piracy have to do with your hardware sales?
The last time I check and remember i bought several PSPs is because of Piracy....DAME Several PSPs...7 to be exact...1 BRICKED. 1 Felt on to the subway track..few stolen.
Why Idiot S0ny people complain??
Complain to your game makers man...
Poor sales??,,BS.bit22hhes....
Lower the price, let CFW in, I'll buy the dame PSPgo for my whole family.
AND thats 158 of them including cousins..
Good luck to that S0ny.
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Uh ooh, so PI-RA-CY is THAT problem, jeez, why wouldn't I thought about it before.
Whole the time I thought that UMDs for 50$ are the problem.
OR not supporting independent developers is that problem.
OR having the fucking poorest online services ever in the galaxy is that problem(you guys from US are fairly good with PSN, you should see EU version omfg).
Sony pls, make Purchasing UMDs/downloadable games even more difficult and DO ADD some kind of bullshittery, like DRM or something, to protect you from piracy, cuz we, legal customers love to get screwed
Oh and to compensate for piracy, pls make games even more expensive, that will sure bring you back lost revenue...
Also you might come up with new media format and bill developers for releasing games on it.
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So you did apply all the DRM stuff and you're screwing legal customers and the piracy level is still high? how's that focking possible *facepalm.jpg*
*sarcasm ends in 3 2 1...*
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so you have to type a serial number into your psp the first time you play your new game online to register it, AND, to prove you own it. isnt that how most PC games are?
i mean im not gonna say i dont pirate... with over 200 games, thatd be a bald faced lie.
but FFS cry a fookin river and geth the bloody hell over it. DRM is nothing new. serial keys are nothing new. at least sony gives you a chance to replay used online games. anyone remember phantasy star online for Sega Dreamcast? anyone ever go buy a used copy at EB or Gamestop, only to find out you cant play it? then to call sega and have them tell you "too bad, get the original key or you cant play". Face it kiddies, Sony COULD be fucking you a LOT harder. i think DRM as theyve (mis)managed it so far is pretty harmless. and pretty generous when you stop and look at the phantasy star online fiasco presented by sega.
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no CFW in PSP-GO = ridiculously low sales!
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The base price point for new PSP games is about $15 too high. THAT is 100% of the problem.
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I have enough money on my PSN account to buy Socom 3 but its just way overpriced. I'm happily playing the pirated version as I just cant see myself paying so much for a game.
Its priced at $59 but if it was $39 I would've gotten it day one. Even if it was $49 I would buy it now but at $59 I will wait for it to drop in price. If it never drops then I will never buy it.
I agree with you 100%.
I have enough money on my PSN account to buy Socom 3 but its just way overpriced. I'm happily playing the pirated version as I just cant see myself paying so much for a game.
Its priced at $59 but if it was $39 I would've gotten it day one. Even if it was $49 I would buy it now but at $59 I will wait for it to drop in price. If it never drops then I will never buy it.
Sony are to blame for that. Stupid prices means more pirated downloads.
Sony are to blame for that. Stupid prices means more pirated downloads.
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I have enough money on my PSN account to buy Socom 3 but its just way overpriced. I'm happily playing the pirated version as I just cant see myself paying so much for a game.
Its priced at $59 but if it was $39 I would've gotten it day one. Even if it was $49 I would buy it now but at $59 I will wait for it to drop in price. If it never drops then I will never buy it.
Sony are to blame for that. Stupid prices means more pirated downloads.
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but A GREAT GAME MACHINE + SO-SO games wont beat a GOOD MACHINE + GREAT GAMES...
we buy psp because its more powerful, more powerful more great games...well supposedly but that is not the case right now...what? sony wants us to buy this great machine for sO-SO games? hahaha what a plan...
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I'd buy more games if they started offering some kind of point reward system I could trade points in to get swanky merchandise. Or if they lowered the price to $30.
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Most PSP games are crap? Well duh... There is no more support for the damn thing from developers because every other game the was made during the initial launches were pretty much PIRATED. Since when did developers work for free? Does a quality game come out of a person's ass or something? It has to be funded somehow and guess what they have to use to fund it? The profit from their previously released games... and guess what.. if they don't have enough funds, of course there going have to cut it somewhere... hence why it becomes a crappy game.
Games are expensive???... Learn to do business kids... give the PS3 for example... not hacked yet... at first the games were damn expensive... now look? They have games that are on special every now and then... there pretty decent ones too.
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OTOH, PSP...horribly expensive titles and the quality is not always great (related to point below). Some of the titles that ARE great, cost plenty...sometimes to the tune of $60-70, although well-worth it.
As noted so many times (and as you did), devs - particularly western ones - don't want to sink so much money into making games because it's all about piracy. So it's either they stay away or they make sub-par shovelware. Therefore, no good games = no sales. Very nasty cycle.
However, sooner or later, Sony will be unable to blame piracy, as the new stock of PSPs (all 3000s/88v3s higher than 5.03) would have taken over the public market. That has already happened in Japan, and yet their sales are becoming even higher (check the charts for that).
You'll actually notice that the people who vocally complain about piracy are primarily the UK/NA companies or branches of the companies, not the Japanese ones. Interesting, considering that those branches are the ones that sell less due more to crappy games than any amount of piracy.
Point is, they should really just step up their marketing efforts for the new generation of PSPs (all unhackable), and splurge some money into developing great games. That was largely the effort during the PS2 era, so why not do it with the PSP?
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but first
@GEN - well businees huh?? tell you what...why do people wanted to pirate?? is it because its free? no moron because this fucking games are so lame to be priced at $45...you really think its easy to hack a psp? eh? well no! an average guy like me is risking my psp to be bricked because of crappy overpriced games! now if games are a bit reasonably priced? i wont hesitate to buy that than have a pain in the a*s figuring what to do just to hack my precious white machine with crappy ammunition...and the real reason for it down fall is not "PIRACY" y? its like this? how could an "unhackable" system be barking to piracy when in fact it cant be pirated at the moment?? duh! its like hating your mother for you are born with no pennis...
now for sony...
well you think you have won eh? hahaha guess what! people are not as stupid as you think to buy that so called "new device" where the only advantage it offers over the pre existing system is its "homebrew free"! and oh! hahaha no one really wants that $250 machine...not at its current state...and before you whine like a baby who last his candy...you are not the only party who has piracy at their tail...hey look nintendo also has one but damn they are doing pretty good...why?? they know what real business is about!
GOOD GAME+ REASONABLE PRICE = OWNAGE!
one more thing...back at the 1000's and early 2000's era...have your sales gone down?? think hard....
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It's the fact that your actually defending the fact that you just stole something and think it's alright... Just because it's CRAPPY?
You think Sony is going to read your damn little rant on here? Just make yourself feel better in your own little world kid... embarrass yourself even more... Real business? I don't see you with a multi million dollar company... Contrast now between me (with a little bit of real facts), yourself (with your warped little mind), and Sony (do I even need to explain it?)... Whose the BIGGER MORON. Instead of typing your idiotic name calling little threats... why don't you present a constructive argument like Silver-Infinity here.
AND IT'S PENIS! Moron....(I'd say this is appropriate) Can't even get a proper insult going... Don't even know why that's even there to answer or compare for the question.
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What would sony pay them with??? The company is trying to make money so that it can get better games, FOR YOU!
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bottom line:
Make things cheaper, let us use the system fully, and give us what's ready for us.
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Great - Editor's Choice
PSP
88 games
DS
81 games
Fair - Good games
PSP
223
DS
265
Conclusion: PSP has a little more top games than the DS, the DS has 42 more Meh to good games. Difference in the two categories is not that big. Both consoles have around the same ammount of decent games (PSP 311, DS 346), and the DS has a lot more shovelware, several times more, than the PSP.
I have to agree though, that prices are too high for new releases. Personally, I stopped buying releases, and only get those games when their prices have dropped, something that eventually happens. And I don't even have to buy them 2nd hand.
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