Rumor: PSPs with non-downgradable firmware on its way to the stores?

Posted May 9, 2007 at 5:17AM by QJ Staff Listed in: PSP Tags: Canada, EB Games, North America, Sony

Would you buy a PSP armed with a security feature that makes it hack proof?

According to Nadclovek from PSP-Spot (sourcing an EB Games Regional Manager in Calgary, Canada), new shipments of PlayStation Portables may sport higher firmware (4.xx) and retail at 169.99 CAD or around US$ 153.67. This might not be good for PSP sales to say the least.

Nadclovek says:

Sony was sending out Emails to its Commercial Retailers that all new PSPs to be sent out will have 'Downgradable Prevention' built right into them. All new PSPs to be shipped out as of next week Friday, May 18th, will be a higher firmware, 4.xx (specifics were not released), but they were promised to include new security features to prevent hacks and downgrades. Apparently this is one of their first steps to start focusing on the PSP again, instead of diverting all attention to the PS3.

The report also mentions that it might have implications in North American PSP sales. While we doubt that it'll be the end of PSP hacking as we know it, but it's a sobering thought to say the least. For now though, we're still sticking this in the rumor bin until further notice. Stay tuned.

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Comments

# sony (thumbs down) — Guest 2007-05-09 01:20

Seriously why wont sony just give up the fight

# crap — Guest 2007-05-09 01:23

well thats a load of balls

at least i got mine

# So what's new? — Guest 2007-05-09 01:27

How is this anything new? I think we could all agree that every new firmware has had "downgradable prevention" built in. I mean, it's not like they ever released a firmware that gave you the option of downgrading to an earlier one. When units started shipping with 3.XX firmware, I'm sure Sony felt they were including "downgradable prevention," but we all have seen what happened there.

I don't see how this email report should cause us any more trepidation. Our beloved hackers probably see this as another exciting challenge, designed simply for their cracking pleasure. So to Sony, I simply say "meh", to our hackers I bid good luck, and to my fellow gamers, I say don't panic, just be patient.

# Riiiight.... — Guest 2007-05-09 01:46

That's what they said with nearly every firmware version past 1.5, but they especially said it with 2.0, 2.01. Every version past that were considered "un-downgradeable". I hope that WHEN (not if) we hack their so called "downgradeable prevention" PSP units, they see that they've lost and have been and finally give up the fight.

# peh — Guest 2007-05-09 01:52

doesnt make any difference here, most games are cack on the psp ... best thing about it is all the emulators and homebrew

screw j00 sony! Leave my homebrew outta this!

# features — Guest 2007-05-09 02:11

All I can say is that if they are gonna make my PSP un-downgradeable with firmware 4.00 I also want loads of features. Not a single firmware has convinced me of droping dark alex, cuz sony just never give us any new firmwares... One more thing... Dark_AleX, get READY

# Bull*****. — Guest 2007-05-09 02:13

There's no such thing as unhackable software. I give up to 2 weeks for hackers until they'll crack it. Then, DAX will make a OE/SE/UE/EE/xE/whatever custom firmware, and it will be the same way as in 3.00 fw.

# I wonder??? — Guest 2007-05-09 02:15

Will mod chips still work cuz if they do then u will still be able to downgrade right???

# You guys are wrong — Guest 2007-05-09 02:17

Rejoice as this means 4.XXOE-A CFW.

As for the rest simply go to some backwater store that doesn't sell a lot of units and pick up your 2.60 FW PSP.

# You guys — Guest 2007-05-09 02:35

F-A-G-S, omg n00b they might not be able to crack the

PSPiece of *****, w/e who cares

# . — Guest 2007-05-09 02:42

why are there no available comments on this topic: Al-Quran for the PSP ?

# hmm — Guest 2007-05-09 02:48

Now hope the 4.xx firmware has Skype or VOIP built in, better GPS support, streaming video (where is Youtube Sony ?) or a better browser because the one from Netfront sucks a bit sometimes.

# haha — Guest 2007-05-09 02:49

Wow if they do that it's gonna SUCK for sales. like 70% of what makes the PSP is the homebrew hacks and all, because it brings out WAY more of the PSP's potential that Sony won't allow us to see for whatever reason.

Sony, let the grudge go, yes, devs made several awesome breakthroughs that threw Sony to the ground, but whether you know it or not it's HELPING sales of your PSP console. Only reason I bought mine was because I could also downgrade it to play homebrews and stuff, and that's the only reason my sis bought one as well... So stop and think a minute Sony. This very bad move will kill your console IF our devs can't beat it again, and if they can, you'll be lucky.

# FACK S0NY — Guest 2007-05-09 02:53

FUX0RZ you, Sony!

First you're bringing down the Lik-Sang community, for some stupid ass power adapter sh*t...

Now you're bringing down the homebrew scene as well??

It's time you stop hating the homebrew scene and just make some friends out here....!

You will sell more PSP's then you will ever have...

# i agree — Guest 2007-05-09 02:53

there better be a good reason besides this that anyone would want this instead of an oe firmware. I am tired of sony just removing features but not giving us much in return. And what ever happened to watching movies on the PSPs. Why don't you guys let us do more of that?

# Not quite... — Guest 2007-05-09 02:53

There is definitely such thing as unhackable software (eg. Hello World) - just, with something so big as the PSP's firmware, it's really really hard to do it.

# Sony needs to rethink their marketing. — Guest 2007-05-09 03:00

Really, the Sony products are selling so well because of the possibilities you get when you hack them. The only thing is, the guys responsible for marketing (and possibly ken kutaragi) haven't noticed it yet. And still, TA-086 was considered un-downgradeable to firmwares less than 2.5. So this new mobo will probably get hacked in no time. Those Sony dudes must have really big balls to risk their sales like that.

# nothing new? — Guest 2007-05-09 03:03

wasn't the ta-082+ the same deal? undowngradable yadayadayada

# HI IM SONY! — Guest 2007-05-09 03:03

HAHAHA MY BOSS IS REALLY CRAZY LOL..

JUST BUY A MODCHIP AND YOU ALL WILL BE FINE!

# IS BS — Guest 2007-05-09 03:08

TA-082 = Downgrade prevention

TA-082 = Hacked

# . — Guest 2007-05-09 03:13

Eventually they will stop. the psp's FLASH memory is limited in size so.....and IF this new firmware has more security to prevent hacking, then that means ole dark alex will just have to UP his time and skill lol. either we will crack it to be downgradable, or we will ENABLE our homebrew to work with that specific firmware. no issue. in order to KEEP on fighting the hacking community, they will HAVE to either release a new psp model that holds more flash memory space, OR, they will have to keep making updates, that not only ADD security, but REMOVE features just to save space. they had mentioned this before.....said they might have to yank out the psp's ability to play MP3's and replace it with security shlt lol....PSP + Awesome System, Sony + Shlty Company. i can show you over 80 or so games that ROCK on psp. [to you who say psp is only good for homebrew]

# Blargh — Guest 2007-05-09 03:21

YARR! Sony is ANGRY! I bet the "preventable downgrade" function in their next PSP will be.... a non-upgradable FW ROM! Seriously. That's the ONLY way that's 100% foolproof. But even then, hacks can be found and HB can load from RAM.

So then I wonder, will there be the regular PSPs and then a more "secure" PSP edition?

# Lots of old PSP still exist in the channel — Guest 2007-05-09 03:25

The real question is whether the new firmware can be decrypted.

# games+movies=profits — Guest 2007-05-09 03:28

games and movies are the driving force behind profits.selling units is not enough.software is more pfrofitable,tha t's why they hate piracy so much.

# look at the face! — Guest 2007-05-09 03:38

am i bovvered?

# ya — Guest 2007-05-09 03:41

good thing i got my psp when i did.

But it doesnt really matter anyway, where ever there is a game system the is always a hacker to make it better. the 360 was hacked on the first week of relaunch, even tho microsoft said that it was "hack proof"

This wont be "Non- downgradable" either

# it's not going to reduce their sales at all — Guest 2007-05-09 03:42

people who use homebrew/hacking are a small minority of game players. there will still be tons of people who will go out and buy psp's after this, and play retail games, not even knowing about the homebrew scene. it will probably increase their sales, due to a price drop. $153 is pretty cheap for such a nice system.

But yeah seriously... this is no different from any other new firmware version. i remember back in the day when 1.0 and 1.5 was all there was, and we were terrified that 1.52 would never be cracked.

# sony-felcher — Guest 2007-05-09 03:42

if you can't beat the law f.u.c.k. the law

# a — Guest 2007-05-09 03:55

your ad here

# HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH — Guest 2007-05-09 03:58

OMFG no way...lol AHAHAHAHAHHAAHH AHA

duh dude... its because NO ONE CARES about that POS...you r-tard...

AHAHAHAHAHHAHAH AHAHAHAHAHAHHAH HAHAH

# ... — Guest 2007-05-09 04:02

sony is not making money by selling hardware actually with the ps3 they pay money for every unit sold. i dont think its much different for the psp...

# a — Guest 2007-05-09 04:18

your ad here

# CFW FTW! — Guest 2007-05-09 04:18

Custom firmware rocks thanks sony!

You need to put:

Skype

PS Store

PSP HOME (well not yet)

Improve the RSS with more features like edit and rename and reorder

More visuals for music

.mov format

Improve Web Browser

More themes

# Don't worry — Guest 2007-05-09 04:21

I will find a downgrade in no time. just let the units come out.

I am working on a 3.4 downgrader. Almost there

# 1.51/1.52 — Guest 2007-05-09 04:39

'we were terrified that 1.52 would never be cracked.'

we never cracked 1.51 and 1.52...

# TA-082 — Excal 2007-05-09 04:46

Just remember that they all said TA-082 was "unhackable"...

# shut up n44p — Guest 2007-05-09 04:48

you can't even speak english, now piss off with your downgrade *****...

# justa question — Guest 2007-05-09 04:48

why would sony email retailers with specifics on the new models about how they cant be downgraded? how would this information be beneficiary to them??

# Answer — Guest 2007-05-09 05:10

The answer is pretty simple. To warn them. They are starting to catch on via reports and other information that people are downgrading their units and if successfull rely on the store's return policy to simply get another one with no reprocussions. Now SONY is telling them about their newer models so that they are informed about how secure it is and that if it gets returned it's probably not from a brick as it wont be that mainstream to say its been hacked and bricked. Now when we figure out how to downgrade/hack the damn thing sony will then call them again and tell them it's been hacked and warn them about it. Of course it is still up to your store's disgretion whether or not to take the unit back. (WALMART will but only for 90 days after date of purchase with reciept.) Without your reciept you can just lie about when you got it and take your chances.

Anyway I hope this clears things up a little bit. If my message appears incoherant. It's probably cause I havn't been to sleep in over 48 hours.....

# what if — Guest 2007-05-09 05:25

but if sony just made something like "a ta-082 like protection but on small UNflashable Drive" I think the next step towarts downgrading is custom update files.

and LOL do you think we need someone who can make a downgrader, well NO we only need someone who can find an exploit.(kernel + usermode)

# good news — Guest 2007-05-09 05:28

Bring it on Sony... kernal exploit anyone?

# meh — Guest 2007-05-09 05:49

sony created undowngradeable firmwares before and theyll do it again >_>

# PSP non-downgrade-able? — Guest 2007-05-09 05:51

as long as the hackers live... there is no such thing as non-downgrade-able...

Just the matters of T.I.M.E.

# hmm — Guest 2007-05-09 06:17

well my opinion it may just be undowngradable i mean i think they could do it, but idk, any ways it will be loonnnggg time b4 it gets downgrades so im glad i got my 3.40 OE psp :)

# No way — Guest 2007-05-09 06:28

PSP will never die

# yep — Mister Common Sense 2007-05-09 06:35

Sony doesn't want PS3 or PSP to sell aparently...

They know the PS3 doesn't sell because of price, but they won't lower it.

# @ Kwastie — Guest 2007-05-09 06:43

but if the firmware is located on a unflashable drive the people who want to update their PSPs can't update. -.-

# HA — Guest 2007-05-09 06:44

nuttin is unhackabable... almost like phony is challenging us. or they jast smoked too much of their mums crack... lyke saying winders will never crash... or my bum isnt hairy.. pshhha..... O_o o_O

# Dude... — Guest 2007-05-09 06:47

Get 3.03 OE-C instead of that buggy thing.

# unexpected? — Guest 2007-05-09 06:48

Seriously, is this really news? Everybody should know that a new wave of psps should come with new firmware.

And the homebrew scene sure is nice but the best games are still delivered by sony. As soon as we can download PSX games from any pc. A 4.xx firmware isn't bad at all.

Why we should pay for their games? Because we want a psp2. Just think about the homebrew possibilities if somebody hacked it!

# you can 'hack' a helloworld — Guest 2007-05-09 06:57

to a degree anyway - you could edit what text it displayed, if it was a form, the form title etc.

# true colours — Guest 2007-05-09 06:57

Sony are showing their true colours.

The colour of retardidness..

# humm... — Guest 2007-05-09 07:02

man that sucks its gonna be downgrade proof like the ta-082!!! DAMN! :-P

# There was progress on 1.5.1 + 1.5.2, but — Guest 2007-05-09 07:02

the devs lost intrest due to the new 2.0 update. You could basically swap the DATA.PSAR in an update and it'd run, but, yeah - the scene was well into 2.0 by then

# ... — Guest 2007-05-09 07:04

how long did it take to hack the TA-082? A long frickin time thats how long. all u guys thinking it's gonna be hacked right after it comes out are dillusional. sony wouldn't make such a big deal about if they thought it was gonna be easily hacked. they obviously have some kinda trick up there sleeve that is gonna keep us scratchin our heads for awhile.

# @ shut up n44p — Guest 2007-05-09 07:05

Not all devs speak english ;/ there are literally huindreds if not thousands of languages out there..

# D_A — Guest 2007-05-09 07:19

Dark_AleX's will soon be back with HEN[Homebrew Enabler] for this...

TRUST ME.

# efuses? — Guest 2007-05-09 07:21

what if its like the 360, we cant downgrade them yet....

# ugh — Guest 2007-05-09 07:42

i bought a another "K" 2.71 firmware psp from a busy walmart just this week... if they have that psp still, then i highly doubt they will be getting some 4.XX fully stocked in their stores any time soon. as far as the undowngradable part goes... i think some input about Dark_Alex can straighten out what exactly sony can or cannot do

# . — Guest 2007-05-09 07:43

do you think if i send a psp back to sony i will get that firmware? i might like to see it on my second psp

# dumb caveman — Guest 2007-05-09 07:52

next time just type ***** instead of FUX0RZ you dumb *****!!

# what a crock of shhhhhhhhhh — Guest 2007-05-09 08:13

"Apparently this is one of their first steps to start focusing on the PSP again, instead of diverting all attention to the PS3."

^^ what a bunch of bull....... my ps3 is collecting so much dust i dont think that would be the case if they had actually been placing all their attention to the ps3.....

ive bought 4 games...... and Resistance is the only one i even play the rest are JUNK along with the firmware.......

as for the psp damn im glad i have 2 with custom firmware.

BIG THANKS to DARK ALEX and his custom firmwares, PSP wouldnt be near as cool as it is without him! THANKS!

# yeah — Guest 2007-05-09 08:13

my psp just broke and i just found the gta thing i needed i am so pissed and i can't get a new one till june

# who cares. — Guest 2007-05-09 08:25

i've got a psp already, unless it breaks, i'm fine, and if it does, i just need to buy a 2nd hand one and i'm sorted.

and i think the 360 can be exploited potentially, it's just not an easy process yet.

# But hack-able — Guest 2007-05-09 08:36

All sony does is make the psp so that there is no information of a fw lower than 4.xx. There fore the only thing to do to the new psp is to hack them where they start, 4.xx. Knowing Sony, they will probably make a mistake and there will be a door left wide open, if we can find that door and exploit it.

# keep going — Guest 2007-05-09 08:36

its probably just helping the sony programmers find better shortcuts so they can program the ps3 and psp faster

# 'Downgradable Prevention' — Guest 2007-05-09 08:39

ILL CRACK THIS ONE

# >>Whatev — Guest 2007-05-09 08:45

two words: mod chip

# 'Downgradable Prevention' — Guest 2007-05-09 08:49

SONY MAKE ME LAUGH I REPAIR PS2 PS3 PSP,S AT MY SHOP THE MACHINES HAVE SO MANY FLAWS ITS UNBELIVABLE HOW TH F..K CAN SONY MAKE A UNDOWNGRADABLE PSP IDE LOVE TO SEE IT

......................................

NO WAY SONY

......................................

# oh well — RaiderX 2007-05-09 08:50

I could care less about people who buy theirs now. Just less noobs running around. The new security measures are probably just another new motherboard.

# psp? — Guest 2007-05-09 09:02

I work at harvey normans (all you yanks and poms probably wonder where that is) its an australasian company.anyways back to the point, I sell a fair few psp's and noone has ever asked me about downgrading theyve just taken a psp (even though all our psp's are ta082 with firmware 2.71) The only person who has ever asked for a downgradable psp was me lol. I got myself the last white 2.60 psp non ta082 (this was back when we'd only had the 2.71 downgrader lol

# .. — Guest 2007-05-09 09:12

the only reason i bought my psp is so i could put a custom fw on it. i think that the only reason psp's are so pop is cuz of Dark alex. if it weren't for him, sony would have stopped making psp s along time ago. it is because of homebrew that they have made any money.....they are destroying themselves. unless dark alex can make another HEN. i think he will.

# hmmm — Guest 2007-05-09 09:12

this is just gonna increase used sales at like gamestop where you can still find < 2.60FW

i got a 1.50FW there and upped it to 3.03OE-C and i'm doing just fine right now

Does anything other than LocationFree and PS1 even need that high, aren't games still only requiring 2.80 at the highest (ie. Port Ops)?

By the time a game comes out for a 4.xxFW, it'll be hack by then, but until that happens, who really cares?!

# bleh — Guest 2007-05-09 09:16

Even DAX is saying there isn't that much of change from 3.10 to 3.30 and 3.40. Most of the new features have already been done in the OE's like higher res videos and PAL PS1 support. So is 4.xxFw really gonna bring anything to the table, or just a useless upgrade, that makes it temp. unhackable, and stupid people will still upgrade and ask questions on here like "can i downgrade yet??" knowing full well you can't.

# .. — Guest 2007-05-09 09:19

this is news. without a custom fw i none of us could download iso's to our memstick. i couldn't live. 4.xx is very bad. it will be hard to put a HEN on it....

# Financials — Guest 2007-05-09 09:24

the things is sony should promote custom firmware enablin us to do the things we can.... but to them its all prfit. if they embraced the custom firmware then they could improve sales on all consoles. not jus that but they can also make the psp store free so that ppl would nt turn to piracy to play the games thay want. for once they should think of wot the consumer wants rather then their pockets. the UMD games should stay as they are... but jus look wot u can do a psp to customize it.. its incredible... they should promote this so they can improve sales of the console.... its only a matter of time b4 some cracks the new firmware cause no matter how secure u try tomake it everythin has flaws...obviously im not sayin that roms and emulators should be legalised but home brew games are kool it lets ppl go further and help them make hobbies n *****.... wot ima tryin to say is they ashould recruit ppl like Dark_AleX and Fanita to help make firmwares that are wot consumers want not try n keep the firmware ***** and boring or they're gonna loose out on sales big time.... UMD'z should be cheeper aswell

# Won't? More like can't! — Guest 2007-05-09 09:37

They can't lower the price, they're already losing money for each PS3 console they sell. What company would lower it?

# re — Guest 2007-05-09 09:54

(*points up*)

Thats why

# The future — Guest 2007-05-09 10:03

Lots of talking anything can be hack thrust me ..................................................................................................................................................................ps1-dreamcast-xbox-ps2-xbox360-ps3 nothing can stop us!

# u think itll be easy as shlt — Guest 2007-05-09 10:25

they havent even found an exploit for 3.10+ and u think that devs will crack a higher fw and find an exploit that fast>>>think u nublets piece of sht>

# Recent news — Guest 2007-05-09 10:30

According to this recent article by BBC; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6397797.stm

Sony claim that they are not afraid of homebrew apps but are concerned with piracy. It's true that this is a major problem but then, couldn't sony just find a way to disable piracy on the psp and still enable HEN???

Another thing is that hackers like Noobz, Team C+D, Dark Alex; they claim that it is our decision to do with what we want. They just come to provide us with the true potential of the PSP. It is all based on business ethics.

"I think it is up to users to make the correct decisions about how to use my software"

Dark Alex

Anyhow, my point is.. Sony should be thinking of ways to work together with the PSP Hackers then to go against them. Trust me, doing this will raise PSP sales. Unfortunely, they only care about their profits rather then consumer's opinions.. unlike other companies.

# . — Guest 2007-05-09 10:48

(sourcing an EB Games Regional Manager in Calgary, Canada)

WHAT! YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME! BAHAHAHAHAHA. And you guys trust THAT? I could say that I'm the son of the co-ceo of sony and tell you that there's a ps4 comming next month and you idiots would still belive me.. come on.

# Thumbs up sony — Guest 2007-05-09 10:53

They are trying to encourage companies to produce games for their system. With all the system sellers coming out (GoW, Final Fantasy Series, and GT), they have to get some help from third party sellers to help ride that wave, by making good selling games. Software sales for the psp sucks because of iso loaders. Why would anyone NOT try to stop the bleeding.

# NOOOOOOBS — Guest 2007-05-09 10:55

SONY ARE SUCH NOOOOOOBS

THEY THINK THEY ARE SOO SMART BUT THEY ARE THE REAL NOOBS WITH THEIR OWN INVENTION!!!!

NOOOOOOBS THEY CAN SUCK MY FAT NUT

# the hell sony? — Guest 2007-05-09 10:59

why doesn't sony just let hackers have their way with the psp. it's a hell of a lot better.

# lame sony — Guest 2007-05-09 11:05

sony has made another dumb move, so lame...

# PS3 homebrew "Ok", not so for PSP — AuDioFreaK39 2007-05-09 11:08

Thank you Sony for further clarifying this rather ironic statement of allowing Linux homebrew on the PS3, but not on the PSP. If it is really that much of a concern, why not develop a fully functional Linux distro for the PSP?

# unhackable? — Guest 2007-05-09 11:21

talkin'about phones: if nothing is unhackable show me how I can unlock my Nokia phone with BB5 code....Nokia uses this for more than a year and it is still not cracked !

Now hope that I didn't give Sony any ideas how to protect their firmware :-)

# psp or games — Guest 2007-05-09 11:52

the main reason sony makes money from psp is games and not the system

i can pretty well assure you its costs $100+ to make while the games cost liek $1 probably (think of a cd and a plastic cd case)and games cost 20-50 bucks so they make 50 bucks on the consol and 20-50 bucks for each game...

# but i even have games — Guest 2007-05-09 12:00

i cant stand people who would download like full psp or ps1 games to put on there psp but with emulators like nesterj those are exeptible in my opinion since they dont make them anymore and even if they did theyd gain little profit

# ~ — Guest 2007-05-09 12:15

Downgradable Proof? Why not just say "Downgrade-proof" works a lot better.

But yeah. Just what could Sony hope to do to make such a thing? Sounds like just another pointless scare tactic to me. Essentially "You've pushed us to do this".

The only good thing about the PSP is the ability to put homebrew stuff on there. If anything, they're hurting themselves by doing this.

And of course, that's all setting aside that no matter how well-protected anything is, if it runs, it can be cracked. It's a simple fact that's been proven time and again, and not just with the PSP. Perhaps Sony should acknowledge that fact first and foremost before anything else.

# wrong — Guest 2007-05-09 12:28

i use 3.40 OE-A. I stayed at 3.03 OE-C for a long time after the newer OEs came out. 3.40 OE is very reliable and has plenty of nice features (such as autooot fixed, that hasnt been around since like 3.02 OE

# *****...... new fw means I am soooooo affected... — Guest 2007-05-09 13:22

Ok lets see:

+'s:

- 4.00oe

- I am on 3.40oe so there is no way I can be screwed

-'s

-noobs get screwed

I am for this fw!

# Shut up people! — Guest 2007-05-09 13:57

Honestly. I don't know how many of you people just jumped on here and said:

"oh em gee sony you suck my nuztz! you should give up the fight! you can't winz! unhackable dubba tee eff! so was gay ta-082!!"

We don't need ANYONE to come on here and start spouting all of that bull. Anon was the only one who said anything remotely intelligent. The only reason sony is doing this is to try to reassure third party devs and to keep them making games. If they thought that all of their games would be pirated the day after they were released, why would they make them? They would lose millions.

Unless you have something intelligent to say, and not about how much Sony sucks and how they should just let hackers do whatever they want, don't post here.

(And no, I am not a hack-hater. In fact, I love my 3.40 OE-A CFW PSP and all of the homebrew games and apps on it, and I don't want Dark_AleX or the Noobz team or anyone to stop what they're doing.)

# ohh dear..here we go again — Guest 2007-05-09 14:34

I really love sony's products.....but i dunno lately what these sony goomba *****s are trying to prove....will it really help them??...ahem ahem...i dont think so...hacking would continue...theres no end for it for sure

# thay cant do that! — HARDcorGamerxXx 2007-05-09 14:41

the only way to make somthing non-downgradable is to make it non-upgradable! so they cant do that!!

but knowing sony the probably would.

# f — Guest 2007-05-09 14:52

psp is dead

# I'm playing nesterJ — Sr_Moska 2007-05-09 15:03

lolz

I also play GameBOyAdvance so what

# sony — Guest 2007-05-09 15:09

this is sony were never give up the fight to stop the hackers

# nintendo ds wins..... — Guest 2007-05-09 15:13

Sonys last shot to beat the DS, is to support homebrew. Other than that, The DS is going to win for sure. ( Specially with Pokemon Diamand and Pearl out. )

# http://pspupdates.qj.net/index.php?pg+49+aid+87256 — mreverdred01 2007-05-09 15:14

Could this new security measure be associated with that big complicated anti-piracy algorithm Sony made and was orgasming about around a month ago?

# :O — Guest 2007-05-09 16:14

Re: Kaeru (Unregistered) - 10 hours ago

» PSP non-downgrade-able?

as long as the hackers live... there is no such thing as non-downgrade-able...

Just the matters of T.I.M.E.

true dat

# Just listen — Guest 2007-05-09 16:14

We will be shipping to North America shores by mid-June. If we can stop all the malicious codes these "so called" PSP programmers keep dishing out to the public we can finally focus on our product.

Sincerely,

J.P. Hendrick

# LOL — Guest 2007-05-09 16:15

ill give it about 2 months or less for this to get hacked

# Question — Guest 2007-05-09 16:47

Aren't firmwares 3.10, 3.11. 3.30 and 3.40 still 'undowngradeable '?

# fewfrwrtrtrya — Guest 2007-05-09 17:11

ya isnt this exactly what they said about the ta 82s and 86s? watch this get hacked on the first day of release ill laugh my arse off!!!!!!!!!!!! ! FW 1.5 FTW

# wow pokemon — Guest 2007-05-09 17:38

OMG pokemon I'm going crazy over here just thinking about Pokemon. I think I'm going to start killing people like crazy. The voices just won't go away I have to play Pokemon otherwise I'm going to kill myself I swear to god. I can't live without Pokemoonnnnnnnn nnnnnnn.

LOL just kidding. But seriously who the hell gives a damm about Pokemon. It's the same thing over and over again. They just add a 100 more Pokemons and a couple more minor improvements and that's it. Why even bring Pokemon into this. We are talking about the PSP here if we want to talk about kiddy games we'll go over to the DS section.

# good — Guest 2007-05-09 18:02

funny when you talk about sony losing sales when all you people using hacked psps download the games for free. i know at least 6 people at work alone that have hacked psps and hard drives filled with every single game that has come out on the system. they get them the second the iso appears online and never spend a penny on the system besides the initial purchase. i really hope they do finally get this thing hack proof. would be nice coming here and seeing it a ghost town.

# hack via ps3 — Guest 2007-05-09 18:27

you will probably find that 3.30-3.40 fw psp's will be exploited through a ps3 hack at some stage (its just a matter of time)

:)

# Warez site — Guest 2007-05-09 18:35

Why are qj sourcing to a dirty warez site, its sites like these that ruin the scene!!!!!!

# :0 — Guest 2007-05-09 19:08

oh well sony can go ***** them selves and everyone can just buy modded PSPs off ebay (or modchips).

lets just hope the sony building catches on fire and every sony employe dies, then some GOOD company will make a good handheld console and the world will be happy :)))

# Lol — Guest 2007-05-09 19:58

Waste Of Time, People Can Just Buy Their PSP Second Hand.....

# whatev — Guest 2007-05-09 20:08

"Dark_AleX's will soon be back with HEN[Homebrew Enabler] for this...

TRUST ME. "

Assuming there will be something to exploit in that firmware version to run unsigned code.

Besides, even if they can't hack it firmware wise isn't that what a freaking mod chip is for? Geez, all this fuss from everyone.

# dude dis iz ***** — Guest 2007-05-09 21:13

dudes i now when dey r going to realease da stuff its da dai Dark_AlaX will release a downgrader for 3.40 then dey will release da un downgradable *****

SONY if u want uz to like u den u hav to let homebrew free not be like u giving evrithing to Ps3 n forget bout PSP

# hmm — Guest 2007-05-09 21:14

hmm, i have a small question. there still isn't a downgrader for 3.10, 3.11, 3.30, 3.40 with our usual boards. why are you guys so sure that this new ''unhackable'' board/firmware will be hacked? also, why do you think the sony guys are stupid and they forget stuff for hackers to exploit? those things are left there:P also, don't forget that hamster's rear is fluffy. :thums up:

# ~ — Guest 2007-05-09 21:51

The amount of people attempting to direct their comments at Sony in this "thread" is amazing. The day one of their higher-ups actually does... well, it won't happen.

But yeah. Would I buy one of these PSPs? Sure, as long as I have the money. The first one I ever bought is horribly broken, and I'd be interested to see if swapping the motherboard from it with a new one would do anything. That is, assuming they don't change the design, but there aren't many details to go on.

And to the guy above this post (the "dude dis is *****" one), they're not forgetting about the PSP. That's one of the main reasons they're doing this (assuming the rumor is true, of course). There's still quite a bit riding on the PSP, and a minor setback such as their latest firmware getting cracked is *not* going to stop them.

Props to Sony though. They're putting up a good fight :3

# lol — Guest 2007-05-09 23:32

lol

# HOMEBREWER AND HACKER — Guest 2007-05-10 00:28

its all about time , everything can be hacked , its just about da tools u use , look at da wii , 2 months after release and they made a modchip for it , and now even with da new mother boards , another modchip is released . this ''UN-DOWNGRADE-ABLE'' firmware 4.xx is probably just a slightly reenforced 2.50 firmware with a new motherboard and encryption code .

# meh agin — Guest 2007-05-10 00:38

wat kind of fone is it? model no.? nokias are crap!!

like i sed.. nuttin is unhackabable.. why you want to unlock anyways? look at freenokia.org.. i think dats the site...

# Nice... — Silver-Tiger 2007-05-10 01:16

nice names here:

UE - Ultimate Edition?

EE - Extreme Edition?

sounds pretty cool...

# you're wrong — Silver-Tiger 2007-05-10 01:20

70% is totally B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T.

approximatily only 20% of all PSP AT ALL know about homebrew and the numbers are even lower when you only count people who CAN use homebrew....

# ahFX — Silver-Tiger 2007-05-10 01:26

ahFX is right, even Dark_AleX is spanish,

Shut up n44p + b00n

# there's no reason to stay at 3.03 OE-C — Silver-Tiger 2007-05-10 01:31

there's no reason to stay at 3.03 OE-C anymore:

- You can use the newest Custom Firmware(3.40)

- You have all "new" functions of 3.40

- you can customize your PSP

- 3.40 is very stable, also the bug with the random writing to the flash is fixed.

Even Dark_AleX recommend to use 3.40 OE-A

# Sony should think anything like... — Guest 2007-05-10 02:10

The only manner to Sony do an undowgradeble FW is: first, kill that spanish guy (hahahahaha). After, do a new FW and...

# let sony — Guest 2007-05-10 02:24

let sony do this...they will finally see what the PSP actually lives for...and that is everything homebrew

i would laugh SOOO hard when they see sales of the PSP plunge down

# fux0rz — Guest 2007-05-10 02:29

its way more funnier than ****

# ThePSP — Guest 2007-05-10 02:33

what if the PSP DOESN'T update...it'll be on 4.XX forever until another PSP is out and u'd need to buy that for newer updates?

it may sound stupid but Sony may go to this extent

so no more firmwares

# WRONG — Guest 2007-05-10 02:34

3.03 OE-C is still better

it looks way better than 3.40 OE-A

# Dark_AleX will do it — Guest 2007-05-10 03:15

just wait a few weeks (or days) and Dark_AleX will crack the new firmware. Wait a few months and he will crack the new PSPs.

# . — Guest 2007-05-10 03:44

i agree with Silver-Tiger, not a lot of ppl knw about homebrew....most ppl, like me, didnt even knw about homebrew when they bought a psp

# And always remember — Guest 2007-05-10 03:46

There ARE still downgradable PSP's out there... you just have to know where to look. ;) my friend just purchased a 3.11 model, i feel bad for him as there is no downgrade for that yet...

# 0.o — Guest 2007-05-10 03:48

Why am i logged in as this dude? i didnt even login.. and this is not my username

# Maybe... Maybe not... — Guest 2007-05-10 03:50

You know, Sony have created unhackable firmwares before. 1.51 and 1.52 as examples.

# Homebrew — Guest 2007-05-10 06:02

Homebrew rocks. Someone please tell Sony that.

# stop laughing at undowngradeable fw's — Guest 2007-05-10 06:42

you people are sitting here laughing that nothing is unhackable it'll be hacked in weeks, remember when ta-086 or what ever was "unhackable" and "there will never be a downgrader your screwed dude"??? yeah that was just months ago, and untill YOU GUYS are doing the hacking/programing etc. shut your damn mouths cuz your just sitting around waiting for someone else to do it, then you sit there kissing their feet and then you act like your "t3h 5up3rz #1 haX0rZ". half the reason sony isn't making money is people downloading games rather than paying for them. then we don't get what they say we are gonna get cuz they gotta waste time stopping the homebrew. i can't wait to be able to have my playstation game without having a ps3 but instead they gotta waste time making the FW unhackable. plus they aren't making the money to give us more!! if people bought the *****ing games they could afford to make this piece of ***** worth owning.

# sales — Guest 2007-05-10 07:14

anyone aware of homebrew isnt gonna buy them and the sales are gonna drop. i wish sony would realize thatr this is what people want and find a way to make a profit off of it. orjust allow it completely and find a way to do it legally like saying do this at your own risk or a disclaimer or sumthin

# we can win — Guest 2007-05-10 07:39

we beat the ta-082 so we can beat this.

who agres with me

# Yep — Guest 2007-05-10 07:52

This hacking community will never stop fighting for what is right, and we will win.

# mmhmmm hacks a the ready — owfx 2007-05-10 08:02

4.00oe how does it sound? wonderful hehe

# Who is "we"? — Guest 2007-05-10 08:26

There are so many comments rambling about how "we" will hack 4.xx and "we" will defeat the evil empire that is Sony. How many people have done more than install _someone else's_ hacked code and gayed up their PSP with fruity XMB icons? You're not a hacker if you follow instructions, just like you're not a gourmet chef if you pour yourself a bowl of Cheerios.

# BONG!!!!!!!!!!! ! — Guest 2007-05-10 10:05

Theres no such thing as unhackable

# no — Guest 2007-05-10 11:40

i don't think filmware 4.00 and above will ever be hacked unless they mess up on something and leave a hole in the security

# RE PSP firmware downgrade — Guest 2007-05-10 12:43

Well, I still would like to know when you can downgrade from firmware 3.11...

# ok... — Guest 2007-05-10 15:07

Ill say one thing

:If it can be done(update),it can be undone(downgrad e)

# hahahahaha — Guest 2007-05-10 15:55

we know that dark alex will find something to hack it so why do we even worry about it

# funny — Guest 2007-05-10 16:28

you know what i find funny? how much everyone relies on DA. i know he is a god and all but what if he stopped? then what would all of you do? you would all be *****ed. you think somone will just takeover? doubt it. just think about that

# yup — Guest 2007-05-10 17:04

I stayed at 3.03oe-c for a loooooong time... when I finally moved to 3.40 oe-a, i WAS afraid my older plugins/theme files wouldn't work... but most of them work just fine. (except topmenu_plugin of course, but there are new ones) so yes, 3.40 oe-a is your best bet.

# loll — Guest 2007-05-10 18:50

I went to a Best Buy here in canada and the firmware on the displayed PSP was 3.40.. you had a 2.71, lucky you.. but it wont be for too long. Besides that.. F-U Sony! and they were saying that 2.50/6 was unhackable! "try to hack it, and you'll bricked it" they were saying loll okay true.. its because of GTA but a downgrader was still made and kernal acces was found.. what Sony didnt expected to happened, did happened July 1st of last yr with a 2.50-2.60 downgrader and then with a 2.71 and 3.03 downgrader.. so yeah its possible! ;)

# hmm — Guest 2007-05-10 18:55

yeah all games are 2.81 right now.. but what if the up-coming games already ask for 4.XX? we're screwed my friend ;)

# Dark_Alex — Guest 2007-05-11 05:26

lets not push Dark_alex into wasting his time on unimportant custom firmwares

IMO

2.71 SE was a big breakthrough for custom firmwares... then its 3.03OE-C...anything above that is just for newer games and maybe for ppl who wish to have the latest CFW

it would be best to let dark_alex create one big uber useful CFW than have him create little steps

# hackers... — Guest 2007-05-11 05:34

they...follow instructions....

# ?? — Guest 2007-05-11 15:54

so are the newbies doomed forever???

# first rule — Guest 2007-05-12 15:00

the number one rule of hacking:

you can change a 1 to a 0 and a 0 to a 1. Its just a matter of finding the right ones to change

# 4.0OEA will be cool. — WACOMalt 2007-05-12 18:53

I cant wait! Just imagine... 4.00OEA.

because we all know sony cant say ***** about being "unhackable", and we all know that when this unhackable firmware gets hacked, we will eventually have a kick ass custom firmware. (of course given sony's track record, I don't expect any new features or anything, just some more challenging code to crack, so maybe it wont be any more kick assed than 3.40OEA)

good luck to the hackers!, though I don't think you'll need it.

:)

# custom firmware — Guest 2007-05-13 05:06

wouldnt ths make it harder to make a new custom firmware

# Perhaps... — Guest 2007-05-14 04:35

Maybe so but...I'm sick of FFVIII freezing on me and if new Firmware can no longer be hacked, I won't get a better PS1 emulator past 3.40.

# Give it some time — Guest 2007-05-14 10:26

Don't worry, once the gods of the psp homebrew scene get their hands on it, it will fall like the rest. Anything can be hacked, anything.

# dsglk — Guest 2007-05-16 10:46

because sony aint a loser lyk u who would give up dat easily.

# Good — Guest 2007-05-19 00:09

Good for Sony, they're losing money from all of the retards downloading games illegally.

# . — Guest 2007-05-22 12:10

Wonderful... first my TA-079 PSP breaks and the repair quote comes back at $200, and now I find out that if I get a replacement it will be likely homebrew-free.

Thank you, Sony, for screwing me over yet again.

# Wow....Sad isnt it — Guest 2007-05-23 18:05

wow.... this is really sad, what happen to ta-086, haha another joke i say, DAX and others will come thru IF that FW of downgrade prevention does come up. i LOL at sony and thier little jokes

# PSP DOWNGRSDING!!! — Guest 2007-05-27 18:05

does anyone know wads the webbie for downgradin psp version 3.11...

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