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Rumor: PSP-4000 is in the works, Sony bringing back UMD

Posted Aug 30, 2009 at 4:30PM EST by Mabie A.

Listed in: PSP Tags: PSP-3000, Sony

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It's possible that we missed this one because we got all worked up about the other tidbit we got from N4G user Super_Secret. Nonetheless, this is just as juicy as any, so we'll still bring it out here though it's quite a couple of days old.

According to PS3Center, Super_Secret also gave out a "reveal" regarding Sony's handhelds. He said that the PSP-3000 will indeed be phased out (what a short life span it'll have, so it turns out),but not by the PSP Go. Instead, there's a spankin' brand new PSP-4000 reportedly in development.

But he was so young...

Get this: they're putting back the UMD drive into it. As it is, that is definitely juicy. No other "details" or speculations have come up regarding this, but for now, we leave this short music video for Sony to express what we think about this back and forth decision-making on dropping the UMD.

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you guys should have stoped at the PSP go....dont you know the only people *****ing about no umd, are 95% pirates, and 5% legit pissed off ppl with old umd, why not just work with a major game dealer EX gamestop/wallmart, that if they bring in the umd give them a coupon to download the game for free, then mark the umd so its not used again, just thought that up, but im sure it could be better....

# Not again! — mugenkits 2009-08-30 17:54

It better have internal storage and bluetooth otherwise whats the point.

And if it has bluetooth make it compatible with DS3.

# no wait... really? — MMPSP 2009-08-30 17:55

seriously? lol Still I like this over the go any day lol

# Dumb move for Sony. — suckmyofff 2009-08-30 18:56

Why would they do this, the could have stopped pirating for good but now it seems games will get a UMD version and digital download. Typical Sony, no sweat off my back though.

# nope... — ov3rkill 2009-08-30 18:59

sony should've just stop @ psp-3000... hmmm... no... wait... should've just stop @ psp-2000. lol.

but then again, i guess this is their way of battling it out against piracy. newer hardware, difficult to crack and hack. like the ipod classic 6g (i think) which is still not hacked..

# If PSP-4000 really does exists — ryebee 2009-08-30 22:36

...it'll probably have an internal battery just like the PSP Go (to kil the Pandora battery). We'll, then again, I may be wrong...

# Not really — error 404 2009-08-30 23:57

I hear what your saying, but eventually the digital downloads will be cracked or whatever. We may hate it but... "Piracy... Piracy never changes"

# MY PREDICTION — badasspc1 2009-08-31 02:32

Possibly it will be a bit thinner and include the new pspgo universal port. However, I think its going to be lighter, take up less power and include bluetooth. As someone else said, it could have an internal battery to help cut down on the Pandora batteries, though anyone willing could just open the psp up and take out the battery. However, everyone who liked swapping out batteries to keep gaming will be left in the dust, or forced to mod.

As far as internal storage? That is pushing it a bit, considering there are duo's available up to 32GB. I also think Sony wants the UMD model to stay at a lower price than the go for now. Who would buy a go, assuming the 4000 would be 250 with internal storage, when it has a larger screen and more distinct features (b.c. w/all peripherals. etc.)? plus it would pave the road for thousands of WTF? comments "If it has internal storage, then why is there still a UMD drive?".

I also don't see this releasing until spring of next year, at the earliest. Most definitely fall of 10', because the pspgo is the new model for this year. Since it has not already been announced, it would be very surprising to see Sony announce the 4000 model for release this year .... but not impossible, just surprising.

# The Pandora battery was blocked on the PSP3000 remember!! — KingPepper 2009-08-31 02:35

I think that the PSP4000 will get rid of the external Memory sticks, and have the same internal memory as the PSPGo has, 32Gig, and i noticed that Soul Calibur 4 had a Install option, Mmm, maybe all new games from now on are going to have this option, to speed up the loading of the games, as UMD is way to slow.

and of course tons more security against piracy, included.

# And — WiiRolled 2009-08-31 02:35

iPod nano 2nd G isn't hacked as well

# If... — mastershane 2009-08-31 02:47

the PSP4000 doesn't have a new graphics chip, a new processing chip, better ram, or bigger storage, it is not worth the $200+. Why in the world would I pay for a brand new PSP only for bluetooth. Oh and if they STILL don't add the damn second analog stick... seriously. But at the same time if they add the second analog stick they would need to add 1 more pair of the shoulder buttons.

Then again, I guess it's fine with one. But if it's another PSP Slim x 2 or something, not worth my money.

# Erm.. — Acteon 2009-08-31 03:12

I must be in the tiny fraction of a percent you missed who are pissed off that no UMD means no import games, most of which are better than the crap put out by western companies.

Taiko no Tatsujin

Project Diva

Gundam vs Gundam

Macross Ace Frontier

I could go on. Of course in the UK we only get a fraction of the releases seen in the US, so to be honest no UMD means a pretty minimal number of games and outrageously high RRP (which is only countered by good retailers offering discounts on UMD).

# On piracy — dd409 2009-08-31 03:26

I think digital downloads are more resistant to piracy, just because they must be cracked instead of just ripped. That said, (almost) anything can be cracked with enough effort.

@akeemb

Nice Fallout reference.

# Interchangeable — apex05 2009-08-31 03:41

Every version so far has made the Psp smaller, lighter and more power efficient, so the most likely thing is they gonna use some of the components and circuitry from Psp go because production ends up cheaper for them with interchangeable parts, there's a chance for bluetooth, internal memory etc. but wouldn't hold your hopes up.

# What? UMD? — Dremth 2009-08-31 03:57

Why doesn't Sony make the next PSP use something better than UMD? Why non MiniDVD (8cm) like what GameCube had? Just a single layer 8cm DVD can hold a full gigabyte more than the dual layer UMD, and a dual layer 8cm can hold up to 5.2GB. Plus, the PS3 officially supports reading of 8cm discs. Not to mention, costs would be cheaper since MiniDVD is not proprietary and you would not need the disc encasing like with UMD. I bet you that 8cm DVD's have faster read/write capabilities than UMD, too, which was the major criticism of UMD, correct? I don't see how this could be a bad choice for Sony, unless there is some sort of patent or royalty situation, and if there is, why not make MiniBluray?

# Err... — FreePlay 2009-08-31 04:10

Digital downloads for the PSP were cracked ages ago, for anyone on custom firmware.

# ^^^ — apex05 2009-08-31 04:25

Because anyone could burn a mini dvd and what you think that'll do for piracy?

# ^^^ — Dremth 2009-08-31 04:58

Well, as I see it, right now UMD isn't preventing piracy at all for the PSP, so what have they got to lose? The goal shouldn't be to prevent piracy with a unusual distribution method.

# physical size — xavis75211 2009-08-31 06:00

the umd is still smaller, its a perfect size for a psp, and all prodution of umds will work on all psp(exsept the go). a umd can hold 2GB and they have only been able to go up to 1.45 GB so far, they still got some use out of them.

even if they did go to mini umd they would have to make the psp bigger so they could fit.

# a crrection on last comment, — xavis75211 2009-08-31 06:03

where i said "mini umd" i ment to say

"mini dvd"

# ... — apex05 2009-08-31 06:13

If they put in a mini dvd it would be like Sony's saying they just don't care about piracy any more, then i'm sure the developers would pack up their dev kits, head to the local Sony office and throw it through the front window, and they are getting closer to stopping piracy, i mean the Psp 3000 hardware hasn't been hacked, it's just an exploit been found.

# On Piracy — Shardnax 2009-08-31 06:27

"I think digital downloads are more resistant to piracy, just because they must be cracked instead of just ripped. That said, (almost) anything can be cracked with enough effort."

Things need to be cracked regardless of if it is ripped from a physical disc or downloaded. I can't even play PSU on my computer because it doesn't have an internet connection.

Why would they dump money into a new PSP when they JUST released the Go?

# No thanks — bruntie2 2009-08-31 06:41

I'm still sticking with the good old PSP-1000 (remember that?)

# . — dd409 2009-08-31 09:32

Meh, I don't keep up with that kind of thing.

# Umm.. — Arliman 2009-08-31 12:57

They never "dropped" UMD... god, sometimes you people are morons.

# dumb — truk 2009-08-31 13:06

really? that's a little excessive... they've already got the 3000 and the go, is it really necessary for a 4000? i'd opt for psp2.

# not really — cmbeke 2009-08-31 14:49

sony just comes out with the psp go, it has all the same buttons as the 1-3000 why would sony create a psp2 that would make the new pspgo obselete by having a second analog stick(i hope..) then sony would just be alienating all the other psp users.

# Hey Acteon, Weeaboo much? — Nineball 2009-08-31 17:35

Just to say games like Taiko no Tatsujin and a game where you try to make the next Britney Spears (or should I say Ayumi Hamasaki) in Project Diva are better than any western games like GTA:LCS just screams I'M A WAPANESE.

# The UMD is still necessary — Nineball 2009-08-31 18:40

Because you might not get internet access in some places or the internet access is slower than molasses in December. Smart move by Sony in putting it back in. If there is internal memory, does that mean you can dump your UMDs to the flash ala disc dumping on the 360 to preserve you laser?

# Awesome! — skotosa 2009-08-31 18:44

Great JOB Sony! Keep on making newer and newer revision I'm loving it! Software updates aren't enough for me, I like how sony keeps updating its hardware and trying new designs till it makes the perfect one.

Plus they make money off of all the stupid people that just keep buying whatever Sony makes. YOU PEOPLE SHOULD WAIT! I've stuck with the PSP 1000 for 5 1/2 years now and its in perfect condition doing everything I'd expect it to do with no dead pixels. Personally I know Sony and new they wouldn't stop so I'm going to buy this new PSP 400 since it will be the perfect model and my PSP 1000 was well worth its money spent. LEARN and Stop *****in.

# no go — NakedFaerie 2009-08-31 19:43

I guess they can foresee the PSP GO being a huge flop and want to keep selling PSPs somehow and as the 3000 is so full of bugs and not selling due to it not being able to install CFW I hope they actually make the 4000 better probably with a inbuild camera for video chat, and a security hole so CFW can be installed. Thats the 2 biggest things they can do to sell more of them.

# nah PSP Go will be full blown success IF... — xche78x 2009-08-31 20:26

dark alex (or anyone) made a custom firmware for it that runs iso's.

people hate buying memory sticks so the 16gb internal will be very handy.

UMD? people just never really cared about it, hell tons of people here have broken UMD drives and still never cared because they only play ISO/CSO.

its a hacking world, one must be hacked to be 2x successful. all successful consoles that sold hundred millions are surely been hacked or chipped. if not for Gen tiff hack less people will buy PSP3000 sad for game devs but its a fact.

playstation is a more powerful brand, is the ps3 is hacked or chipped, its sales will be 4x to 8x more and faster. and yes people will find a way to download 50gb on their 56k internet line.

# actually — Aces In The Palm 2009-08-31 22:10

pandoras battery or "service mode" was never completely blocked on TA-088v3 and TA-090v2

the pre-IPL checks were altered and no one has worked out a bypass yet.

secondly, sony has always maintained that the PSP Go! model will not replace the PSP-3000, but would more be a UMDless lighter alternative to the PSP slim.

i feel this makes a PSP-4000 highly likely as a PSP-3000 replacement, maybe a PSP-3000 with some PSP Go! tech.

and they will never get rid of external memcards, the PSP Go! takes memstick pro duo micro and has 16GB of internal storage, not 32GB.

# actually — Aces In The Palm 2009-08-31 22:22

UMDs hold 1.7GB and not proper gigabytes either

1700000000/1024/1024/1024 equals 1.58GB which isn't far off your 1.45GB

(only storage device manufacturers sell megabytes in 1000 * 1000 lots, the actual computer will recognise a megabyte as 1024 * 1024)

# ... — buttheadrulesagain 2009-09-01 04:49

What Sony is doing, is what Ford did with the Model T: little upgrades at a time with little to no price increase (excepting for the Go, which appears to be an alternate line). Don't flip out people, Sony isn't forcing new models down your throat. I still have a 2000, and it works very fine... if it breaks, I'll buy the current iteration, but ONLY WHEN IT BREAKS (or gets lost/stolen).

# even though college will rule my life..... — madskilzs 2009-09-01 05:19

i'm excited to see what it looks like. But like many others have said i hope it has a second analog stick and improved graphics if possible.

# Um.... what? — Snaku 2009-09-01 05:49

What's the problem with this? The 2000 and 3000 were just hardware revisions of the standard psp. They made it thinner because they could and because it makes it more portable, and with the 3000 they tried to put in a better screen (I haven't seen one so I don't know how bad the scan lines were, but it's supposed to have a better refresh rate).

The Go isn't a revision so much as a different model. Now that flash memory is cheaper than it was 4 years ago, it's practical to have a disc-less psp, but Sony has said that it's not a replacement. The disc based psp isn't going anywhere and it's only logical that they would keep making hardware revisions to it, such as the rumored 4000. I would assume that it'll just be another psp slim. It might have a new screen (considering the backlash Sony got on the 3000) or something, but it's still just a psp. They're not putting the umd "back" 'cuz they never took it out.

# Hey Nineball, j*ckass much? — NickyP 2009-09-01 07:49

Someone isn't a wapanese because they enjoy eastern games more than western ones. I dunno about that Project Diva game, but the other three he listed are VERY good. If you stopped getting hard off of killing innocent people in GTA for a moment to try something different, you might even like them too.

# are you sure......... — KingPepper 2009-09-01 08:21

@Aces in the Palm,

Are you sure mate, about the internal memory of the PSPGo, as i remember at the E3 Sony Conference saying there would be 32Gig of internal memory also would be using the M2 external memory cards.

# @cmbeke — truk 2009-09-01 10:49

i meant forget the hardware upgrades and just concentrate on psp2.

# WTF? — danielakadanny 2009-09-01 12:49

I never mentioned any of that ranting...I just said that because its dumb right after a new model comes out ( PSP Go! ) another model comes out

# Uh....they are wapanese when they say. — Nineball 2009-09-01 12:59

"better than the crap put out by western companies."

That's called belittling western games to lift up Japanese games. And Taiko no Tatsujin loses its appeal without the reason for it being (the drums) like DDR on the PSP does....but it's still better than that "western crap". And "getting hard" to Lolita anime is sooo much better than acting like a mobster. Do me a favor.

# . — NickyP 2009-09-01 17:24

So, liking japanese games + liking lolita anime? lol Suure..

Plus, I'm sorry to inform you that many of the greatest games made were from japanese developers. Mario? Sonic? Megaman? Metroid? Zelda? Final Fantasy? The list goes on and on...

(ps: not bashing western gaming companies either)

# Feh, typo.. — NickyP 2009-09-01 17:26

liking japanese games + liking lolita anime?*

# Stay in the bounds of the subject — Nineball 2009-09-01 21:16

Those are great games, but they aren't PSP games, are they, which is what that guy was talking about.

And yes, calling western games "crap" to lift up games with lolita anime girls is being a weeaboo. I don't see why that is hard to get.

# yes i am absolutely positive — Aces In The Palm 2009-09-01 22:20

supports memory stick pro duo micro up to 32GB

has internal of 16GB

source....all of them

do a quick google search

http://www.qj.net/PSP-Go-tech-specs-new-firmware-new-XMB-options-more-proprietary-cables/pg/49/aid/133813

and i quote "Another change is the introduction of a new "System Storage" folder similar to the Memory Stick one. This one is for the PSP Go's internal flash storage. The available space for users is 14.74GB formatted in FAT32."

its memstick pro duo micro...not M2

and its compatible to up 32GB sticks with 16GB internal storage

# - — APerson 2009-09-03 13:39

Wait, new Apple how?

You mean with the iMac, Mac Mini, or Mac Pro that have occasionally gone years without an update? Or how some iPods last years without updates too?

I really don't get the point you're trying to make. I feel like there's one there but you haven't been intelligent enough to get it across.

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