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PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1

Posted May 19, 2010 at 6:28PM EST by Ryan F.

Listed in: PSP Tags: DeSmuME, dsonpsp, homebrew, jonlimle, Yoshihiro

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With Yoshihiro taking a break from the homebrew scene, homebrew coder jonlimle has decided to continue and improved the famous Nintendo DS emulator for PSP. Alright guys, here it goes, the first release of his unofficial version of the DSonPSP project.

Developer's note:

Original port by YoshiHiro based on DeSmUmE core 9

This is a continuation of the old DSonPSP project. I have included one homebrew game... Also in the package is a file called "samples.zip" it contains all of the DS samples that i have tested and that work, if you want to test them uncompress it and put the .nds files in the same folder as the eboot

Place all of your other DS homebrew/backups in the same folder as the EBOOT

v0.1 changes:
-New frontend

TODO:
-DynaRec support
-Screenshots
-Savestates
-More VFPU usage
-Menu access while playing a game, so you can switch your rom without restarting the emulator
-support for zipped roms

Download: DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1

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Stop complaining about whether it is possible for the PSP to emulate the NDS or not. I mean c'mon, it's not like you were the one doing all the work, just be glad that someone's putting effort to give us that opportunity.

And please support the developers, it's because of people like them that keeps the PSP scene alive.

# doesnt matter, — Shabbypenguin 2010-05-19 21:45

look at Daedalusx64 project, it was a port of a pc version... its all about stepping stone some day some people might pull some stuff from this and make it run perfectly on whatever device in said future

-1 # Pokemon? — HirogaX 2010-05-20 01:47

so there will be pokemon on psp now?

-1 # RE: Pokemon? — jazneo 2010-05-20 02:58

Quoting HirogaX:

so there will be pokemon on psp now?

Quoting HirogaX:

so there will be pokemon on psp now?

Quoting HirogaX:

so there will be pokemon on psp now?

how are you

# RE: Pokemon? — jazneo 2010-05-20 02:59

Quoting HirogaX:

so there will be pokemon on psp now?

pokemon been on the psp sense gameboy Emulator game out

# This will never be even close to full speed — kupomogli 2010-05-20 03:00

Daedulusx64 and DSonPSP running more than a couple games even close to full speed is like running a disc based PS2 title on a slim PS3.

Never gonna happen.

# ... — TheLastGuitarHero 2010-05-20 04:50

Can you tell me the lottery numbers please? I figure since you can predict the future and all...

-1 # Sigh — aperson2 2010-05-20 07:37

Quoting TheLastGuitarHe ro:

Can you tell me the lottery numbers please? I figure since you can predict the future and all...

Can I just ask; are you a massive moron?
A 64 emulator is never going to run well on a PSP, it isn't. Anyone with any software background can tell you that. And anyone with a fraction of a brain will look at the number of available buttons on a PSP and say "you know what, I'll never be able to play a 64 game properly on this".
You know what else a moron will not be able to see? That the DS has a touchscreen and the PSP does not. No matter how good the coding gets, no matter who gets their hands on it, it will never play games as well as a DS does.

It always surprises me how much faith people can have. It's like religion... people believe the craziest things sometimes.

# RE: Sigh — BrunoReX 2010-05-20 10:05

Quoting aperson2:

A 64 emulator is never going to run well on a PSP, it isn't.

Except it already is.

# RE: RE: Sigh — aperson2 2010-05-20 11:46

Quoting BrunoReX:

Quoting aperson2:
A 64 emulator is never going to run well on a PSP, it isn't.

Except it already is.

It seems you and I have different opinion of what "fine" is. Fine is fine wine, fine women... you know... the FINEr things in life.
N64 emulation on a PSP is not fine by any stretch of the imagination. First off there's the limited number of buttons so its fallen before it even started. Secondly the coding is so poor right now. Commercial games at full speed WITH (a fancy invention in the 80's) sound! Can't do it. Never will be able to do it.

+2 # ... — TheLastGuitarHero 2010-05-20 15:16

You didn't say "fine," the first time, killer. So all your "fine" examples, do not matter. Daedalus does run "well." as in, "Well enough to play some games." I think you're trying way too hard, but since you're an idiot and being way too blunt, I'll try to break it down for you.
"Anyone with any software background can tell you that."
Everybody wants perfection, but you know what? If I can play some N64 games on my PSP, and for free no less, well gee golly whiz I think that might just be cool enough for me to not be a dickhead about, you feel me?

"And anyone with a fraction of a brain will look at the number of available buttons on a PSP"
...Hahah. Usually when I see a comment as dumb as this I just think, "Okay that was dumb," and move on. However since you seem to think everything is black and white, such as "It just can't be done," I have to point out that in fact the buttons are not an issue. I mean there's a PS1 emulator, and there's no L2/R2 buttons on the PSP, but do people say, "Wow F this emulator, it doesn't have enough buttons!" No, there's ways around it.

"That the DS has a touchscreen and the PSP does not."
Man, more gold coming from the man himself. When exactly did you notice the DS has a touchscreen and the PSP does not? And here all along I thought they were the same hand-held. Now. Do I ever see this emulator running at full speed? Not in my lifetime, but for you to bring up the fact that the PSP doesn't have a touch screen as one of your points, that's pretty awesome, Sherlock. The DS also has.. Duel Screens! That's just more reasoning since we're doing nothing but naming the obvious. It's just the point, the principal dude. I bet you're awesome at parties though.

# RE: RE: RE: Sigh — jacobian91 2010-05-22 23:57

Quoting aperson2:

First off there's the limited number of buttons so its fallen before it even started.

Ok, I don't own a PSP and I don't know how any emulators run on it, but correct me if I'm wrong here.

X = A
O = B
Triangle = Z
L = L
R = R
D-pad left = C left
D-pad right = C right
D-pad up = C up
D-pad down = C down
Analog Nub = Analog Stick
Start = Start
Select = n/a

I can't really think of any N64 games that require the N64 d-pad. Of all the N64 games I've emulated on my PC I haven't needed them, so I really don't know any that require them.

# Respond — Guest 2010-05-20 11:13

No one ever said that it would be the same experience as the DS. Most People who see DSonPSP think that it is a project that will run a DS emulator as good as the DS its self. But That was never the goal of the dev, his goal is to come as close as possible to perfection. Because he knows very well the things a DS have and a psp don't have. So instead of complaining about the things we don't have let's face the things we do have cause its already pretty amazing that we even can play a bit of nintende 64 games.

+1 # If that's the case — kupomogli 2010-05-20 13:04

For me, it's not even about the fact that touchscreen won't work properly, as most games don't need it. However, if the goal is to come close as possible to perfection, then the developer should stop right now as he'll undoubtedly fail. The DS is more powerful than the N64 and has two screens to process.

Take the N64 emulator. One of the only games that can run on it at a decent speed is Mario 64 without sound. Add sound and runs at an even slower fps. 99.9999% of other games are unplayable.

You might hear people say. Oh Super Smash Bros is playable etc. Yeah. If you like playing games at 15FPS on the latest revision. And the bad thing is that Super Smash Bros is one of the best compatible N64 games with the Daedalusx64 emulator.

That's definitely saying a lot. Go ahead though. Praise developers and give them hope that the N64 and DS can actually be playable(which they won't be,) and emulation that isn't quite perfect but is extremely close, SNES and GBA, both of which run a full 60FPS at 0 frame skip on most games, or Sega CD which with only two revisions has compatibility on almost all games and near full speed or full speed on all games that it's compatible on.

+1 # kupomogli >> — Guest 2010-05-20 14:47

kupomogli : Get your facts correct before talking please..

Ds = 67.028 Mhz ARM9 + 33.514Mhz = 100.54Mhz
N64 = 93.75 Mhz R4300 + 62.5Mhz = 156.25Mhz

N64 is far superior than DS.
DS only has 4mbs of Ram, on the other hand N64 can go all the way up to 8Mbs.

NDS emulation on the PSP is perfectly possible on the PSP with a proper dynarec.

Also N64 emulation is been possible since a while, how in the hell I was able to beat starfox 64 perfectly fine?

# poor — Guest 2010-05-20 12:35

because those people with faith you are enjoying those craziest games so dont be stupid and let the people do what ever they dream or want to do.

# RE: This will never be even close to full speed — But Fukir 2010-05-20 14:21

Quoting kupomogli:

...even close to full speed is like running a disc based PS2 title on a slim PS3.

Never gonna happen.

Slim ps3 = garbage.
All the ps3's without BC = garbage IMO.

I'll end up skipping this gen of PS unless it gets hacked so that homebrewers can actually make it useful.

# RE: This will never be even close to full speed — Souljaboy56 2010-05-27 00:35

Quoting kupomogli:

Daedulusx64 and DSonPSP running more than a couple games even close to full speed is like running a disc based PS2 title on a slim PS3.

Never gonna happen.

Ummm idk what release of Daedalus you've been using, ive played SSB At 60 fps [ or 30 , its been a while ] and its doind sound emulation too. Basically running Perfectly.

DS Will NEVER run perfect on a psp. N64 already can.

# Lol — Guest 2010-05-20 04:02

"running a disc based PS2 title on a slim PS3."

ps3 are backwards compatible I'm sure, but yeah I'm glad there are still developers out there and if they choose to spend their time on this project then so be it but I'd really like to see SNES9x having the ability to go into sleep mode I can't believe every other emulator (even more modern ones such as GpSP and the psx one) That would be my wish for people to work on, just the ability to go into sleep mode

# only 60GB, 20GB, and the early 80GB fat PS3 models — kupomogli 2010-05-20 13:08

I own a 60GB PS3 with hardware emulation so most everything is backwards compatible, however if you were to find a PS3 in stores now, fat or slim, it won't be backwards compatible with anything but PSX games.

I'm a Sony fanboy who also owns a DS and just saying it how it is. While I'd like for the DS and N64 to work on the PSP, it's never going to happen and isn't realistically possible to be honest.

# RE: only 60GB, 20GB, and the early 80GB fat PS3 models — Guest 2010-05-20 22:50

you sir are a dumb****
Chuck norris looks down on you

# jonlimle — Guest 2010-05-20 05:30

LOOOOVEE YOUUUUU

# To all the idiots bashing this and similar projects — Guest 2010-05-20 14:11

Answer this. Are we paying for this?

Are you doing any work at all?

You guys are nothing but pessimists!

# Besides..... — Guest 2010-05-20 14:14

Even if the project will never be completed the secs will end up learning a lot of new things in the long run which will help them with other projects.

# RE: PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1 — But Fukir 2010-05-20 14:23

Awesome.

I've wanted to try this emu but couldn't track it down on the web.

# RE: PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1 — Guest 2010-05-20 17:51

by using the same logic as some idiots posting hardware comparisons, my laptop (2.2ghz sempron, ati 3100 graphics) would be running the IDEAS ds emulator at super full speed, and the n64 emulator project64 would barely hit 2 FPS. However, because the n64 emulator is more developed than the DS emulator, it in fact runs 60 FPS with all the bells and whistles enabled, and IDEAS runs around 2 FPS in every game I've tried.

So in other words your logic is null. I appreciate the folks attempting different projects in the psp scene. Without them, it would be dead. I really hope they dont run into the really-loud few who cloud boards like these with completely useless negativity.

# @ triac IT is posssible — HacKeRsLiM 2010-05-20 21:52

might just take a long time. you remember when daedalus started off nobody thought they would make it but look at them now. this is ds so it might just take longer.

# RE: PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1 — Guest 2010-05-21 06:24

Fu*ck u as*holes, be glad you have someone trying to do something great for you ungrateful bastards.

# OMFG — Guest 2010-05-21 09:06

Old Post
chk Google for DSonPSP 0.7
its very old!

# @ guest — jonlimle 2010-05-21 21:01

this isnt old, it is 0.1 of my continuance, i released 3 or so days ago, so, 0.7 is the older one

# Controls? — Haseo987678-ps3 2010-05-23 20:12

wat r the controls for the emulator!!!!!!! ????????????

# emulation 101 — Cael 2010-05-24 15:49

The basic rule of emulation is you need 10x the processor speed of the orgional target to get full speed.

dynarec changes that if it's coded properly however the PSP stilll doesnt have the full speed or ram to do it properly. even the hackable Slims or 3k's running 5.03GEN-b etc. notice to get anywhere really w/ a DS emulator on a PC you need atleast 1 GHZ processor?

but i dont know much about modern Emulator coding especially for handhelds. but honestly alot of games wont work w/ or w/o sound due to needing touch screen. needing both screens. some games will work.. i can see alot of DS Homebrew working except for those needing use of the DS hardware (wifi etc) but people who make emulators on other consoles/handhelds do it "because we can" not because " we are trying to despite we know it wont work fully"

# RE: emulation 101 — andermetalsh 2011-04-07 07:16

I saw long ago Amiga (You know , these multimedia computers in the 80's early 90 emulating Mac OS 7 running a flight simulator 100% accurate inside .
"The basic rule of emulation is you need 10x the processor speed of the orgional target to get full speed.".

My GF's CoreDuo @2400 with Nvidia 8200 emulates the Wii perfectly doing frameskip 1 .

Maybe we could translate DS s OpenGL interpretation to the PSP's one .

# jeez — alexzander 2010-05-26 10:18

why is everyone ripping this apart., This is cool. it shows that people are determaned and are trying. i think it will be very hard to do but it may be workable. I think the N64 on psp is awesome and is very possible. and the whole button config isnt a problem look at ps1 games. anyways great job to all that are doing this. keep the psp alive cuz sony sure as hell isnt

# RE: PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1 — KtMack23 2010-05-26 15:33

Once I get to the tilte screen on the homebrew included, I can't do anything, What are the controls?

Also n64 on psp ftw!

# RE: PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1 — coc 2010-10-11 00:24

I think it's hilarious that every time I read the comments on a new release of ANY homebrew for any emulated console or what have you, a bunch of know-it-alls come swarming out of the woodwork to let everybody know how slow and unplayable it is, and how poorly every other emulator functions and how it's not to their liking.

We really don't care what you have to say if you're not even going to contribute constructive criticism, nevermind coding help or an open source version of your own work. Maybe if you can't influence these programs getting any better, you should keep your mouth shut and your uninformed amateur opinions to yourself.

All you're doing is discouraging anyone from making their work public. I dunno about you guys, but if I busted my ass for hours on a program I'm not charging any money for and then released it to all the world, the last thing I would want to hear is a bunch of kids complaining about how it doesn't run good enough to make them giggle just because there isn't a small army of overpaid programmers and designers backing it up; just one or two people with ambition and a little free time.

All you're doing is killing the homebrew scene. Is that why you visit this web site and post comments? Don't worry though, one day you will grow up and look back on this and say to yourself, "Wow. I used to be a huge mouth-breathing internet f***tard."

Either that or "HURRRRRRR FIRST POST!!!1"

# RE: PSP homebrew - DSonPSP Unofficial v0.1 — McVader 2011-09-10 02:03

Deadalus runs many games fine,
Mario 64, Starfox, Zelda (I just finished the forest temple) run close to fullspeed, its just a shame about Goldeneye.

@andermetalsh

The Amiga used the Motorolla 68k processor same as the old Macs (Atari ST/Jaguar, SEGA Megadrive/Genesis used it as well) so I don't know if that counts as emulation.

Back on the subject, I've only ever tried DeSmUmE once and my PC could barely handle it so I doubt it will get very far on PSP but it's nice to see someone try! Hopefully We'll be able to run signed PSP homebrew on the Vita!

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