Developers say that the PSP has "failed" |
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In a podcast that's supposed to wrap up TGS 2006, the folks of GamesRadar have proudly declared that the PSP has failed. They state that nothing really notable was shown for the PSP during TGS2006 except Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops, compared to four to five DS games that were featured at TGS 2006. According to them, the word from Developers at TGS 2006 is that the PSP is either failing or has already failed.
Despite high profile titles like Portable Ops and Square-Enix's Final Fantasy: Crisis Core, the PSP has pretty much almost taken the road of the Gamecube already. It seems that Developers with games that have a sure following are the only ones that have the courage to release titles for the PSP.
The tone of the PodCast's take on the handheld scene is that the DS just has so much more official content compared to the PSP.
And here Sony wonders why the Homebrew scene is growing. Perhaps if they had more "big" games for the handheld during release, or maybe if they welcomed hobbyists and developers the same way Microsoft is welcoming the same people with the XNA, game developers will have a brighter outlook for the PSP.
We here at QJ do not want to declare the PSP dead. As debatable as it is, the PodCast does raise some very convincing points. Anyway, don't just take what we had to say about GamesRadar's podcast, watch the podcast yourselves. Download it below.
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I'm not saying it's dead, largely because at this point if the devs started kicking out good games it'd be back quicker than you think.
I will though say the PSP is in a coma....and until it shows it's not braindead we're soon to pull the cord.
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Yet Nintendo has all its attention on the Wii and DS games rock right now and will only get better.
PSP is losing steam right now and it will take a pretty good jolt to revive itself.
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As far a Sony is concerned, it has.
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Even if there is homebrews on the PSP, look at the PS2. It have homebrews and its lasting. Its the games that the developers make that make a console good.
Well copy games, you see alot of PSP copy games being traded, Look at the HD loader, People could rip ps2 game on the Hard drive and play them and return them from blockbuster or what not. So it not really a console/handheld, thats the problem, its the *****ty developers.
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but yeah, the psp just failed... I'm sorry to be kind of weird on this but... sony must give that encripted key to homebrewers...
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For example, even the EA Sports games released for the PSP are riddled with glitches. If anyone's ever played EITHER of the Madden releases, you know that you can find a significant glitch within 5 minutes of playing a game. And that goes for about every other game that's come out for the PSP. I understand that bugs are all something we have to deal with when it comes to video games, but for some reason, the PSP tends to be especially bad with games that feature obvious and catastrophic bugs.
I'm not sure if it has to do with the way the PSP is developed, or if it's just the pure laziness of the developers themselves, but something needs to be done to catch such buggy games before release. And if this means that Sony scupulously test each game through and through weeks before release, so be it. It may very well save their little handheld system, and at this point, that's much more important than rushing a game to release.
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It's ridge racer!
RIDGGEEEE RAAAAACCCCEEERR RR!!!
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there will continue to be less and less games for the PSP because of that. eventually, it will probably turn into just a hobbiest thing. only people making homebrew for it will be interested.
sorry for bad spelling
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of the screen and see some games released and some games we are still waiting for release on the list and that list is not that small either. Sure its been a couple of years almost since the PSP has been released but the list of games is pretty large and growing. By far the PSP has been a great success do to sells, even if other systems sell more. Just wait till the holiday season. I bet there are alot of people wanting a PSP and parents will fork out the money to buy them and as the newer games are released, the PSP should be pretty strong for awhile.
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i only care about homebrew
like psp revolution, and many others
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Of course that fails.
They release mostly ports and spin-offs of games most already own on the ps2 with only about 4 or 5 games being worth buying. LCS, Syphon filter, Daxter, and Socom come to mind. What a list!
Big surprise people aren't rushing out to buy them.
Meanwhile the DS continues to offer more original and fun games for its innovative touch screen handheld.
PSP's unfortunately the gamegear 2.0. Oh well. There's still homebrew. Suck it, Sony. You fumbled the ball.
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a tip for any umd game dev... i think: there should be bugfixes for games downloadable via infrastructure. only allowing u to play online if u have the updated game files embedded into ur savefile. its only a thought.
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my analog stick is all screwed, and my right speaker is out!! I even opened the analog stick to check it, and the damn spring is bent, and I didnt even drop it! its been that way since I installed PSP2TV
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sony rips people off... 100 dollars for a ms that probably cost hmmmm.... 5 dollars to make at the most. if memory sticks didnt cost so much coming from any manufacturer(sa ndisk,sony, etc.) then i would buy more memory sticks. same with the games... i mean 50 bucks is a tad too much for a tiny disc. some of my more recent games were cheaper like 35$ but one of them is horrible and i wanna get my money back from eb games for reserving part 2 of the game.(if u cant tell im talking about socom. socoms controls are too hard for me to get... but syphon filter is a really good game.)
in ways i hope the psp is dead... so that they can give us the key to load brew from the ms straight from the xmb without a hack. but i dont want it dead cause there is so much to look forward to on it...
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At this point in time and in the future, I see PSP to PS3 functioning as an extention of PocketStation to PlayStation functionality. I really do see the PSP as PocketStation 2 in the context of how it is supposed to perform with PS3. (The devs will mess this up if all they decide to do is crappy stuff . For instance, the rear view mirror function in PS3's F1 game. You know they could offer way more than that.)
Ultimately, the course of the PS3 and PSP is all going to be determined by the devs. If they fail to put out we will end up with very expensive paper weights.
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For instance- Dreamcast too had an awesome game library but the release date and poor marketing strategy did not help it. And like the PSP, Dreamcasts EASY accesibility to piracy certainly did not help it either. Coincidently, other simlarities prior to the "failing" of dreamcast include a PS1 emulator and awesome homebrew community.
However, failing is too harsh of a term. The PSP definately still has a long life and potential ahead. I don't think it needs to wipe out the competition to survive or to be considered a "success" because Sony's been getting too used to being at the top, just let them realize second place aint so bad.
My final two Canadian cents are: I prefer my DS for gaming but if I had a choice between my PSP and and DS in a life and death situation, I would say F*** the DS! I prefer my MP3/portable video/ Homebrew/Classic Game/Current Gen Gaming device any day over some single functioning dual screened system ;)
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The very fact that it holds over 1/3 of the handheld market right now is pretty damned impressive to me, considering the fact that Nintendo's had essentially 100% of that for... 17 years now.
And then, look at the release list in just the next month.
Mercury 2, Stacked, ProStroke, Ace Combat X, WTF, Eureka 7, Dungeon Siege, Medal of Honor, GTA: VCS, Killzone: Liberation, NFS: C, Power Stone Collection, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Every Extend Extra, Lumines 2.
Just how the Hell is that considered failing? When that many interesting, new titles are coming within one month, and we have MGS: PO, Project 8, Death Jr. 2, Elder Scrolls, 100 Bullets, Bliss Island, Sonic Rivals, Rayman, and Test Drive Unlimited, Gitaroo Man Lives, and Warhammer on the horizon...
No, I'm sitting pretty with my PSP for a long while from now. =D
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Even now over a year and counting later, here we still wait for that one great game that justifies the psp as a true handheld contender in the commercial market,
The question one must ask ones self is, in what way has the psp succeeded? (commercially) ?
It brought handheld gaming out of the ghetto?? (not quite- as it stands the psp gaming market (IS) the current ghetto)
It delivered ps2 quality gaming with the boasted battery life it suggested in its original specs? (still waiting for that one)
It has mad support from third party devs and took over the handheld market ? (by al mans it should have- It could have- But sony's lack of interest in its success if what has caused it to perceivably fail.
Im a psp owner as most of us here are. And even for us that wish its success, Even were pissed off at the lack of support this great system has..
Has the psp failed? As I see it not yet. ( I feel the psp has really yet to even take off. let alone fail)
But one thing is for certain, The psp wont survive another disastrous market year, like this one was.
Ps. I used to think the lack of great commercial support was sony's fault. (and for the most part it is)
But now I wonder if sony can even get third party support for the psp, considering the lack luster year its had.
Oh well. In the end it doesn't matter of the psp fails or succeeds, Im happy with my psp, it does everything I ever wanted or even dreamed of in a portable, and its all because of homebrew.
So i say let the market crash on the psp. What have any of us really lost. ( a few lack luster commercial titles ?) The homebrew scenes where its at anyway :)
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Do you just rove around the forums looking for people to correct. You need to chill a little and stop takeing things so seriously.
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its their consequence for blocking homebrew
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.... all to do with the game creators, fullstop...bleh
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Both the PSP and DS have the same problem:
They are not being used to their full potential.
Nintendo is always talking about how they want to appeal to a wide audience, but their DS doesn't have "wide audience" features. (They could have put a note pad, interactive calendar, or a planner/task list into the DS. To some people that is what a PDA is for and I understand where they are coming from, but I just think the DS could be useful given its capabilities)
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The less games purchased when a developer makes a game, the less initiative they have to make better or even bother making them. EA's criticized the platform before, R* was lucky with GTA's because of the exploit. I don't think they would have managed to sell that much copies if it were'nt for the famous exploit.
I'm not saying you should put down ISOs immedietely, u can't quit cold turkey on free stuff. BUT JUST PLEASE BUY MORE GAMES IF YOU ENJOY THEM
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I think the psp can still pull it off, all they need is a game that will be as wildly popular as pokemon, but on the psp. Maybe sony should buy the rights to pokemon and make their own pokemon games
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And to be honest, I've never understood what the hype was about the DS. Don't get me wrong, it has a few games that I would love to play for it, but people keep telling me that I should have got a DS because it has a better game library. I looked at the DS's library, and I probably would have bought Mario Kart, Metroid, and maybe another three or four games all together. For PSP I own ninteen games, and I have plans on getting another twelve soon, meaning I'll have over 30 psp games that I'll love, compared to the maybe 5 or 6 I would have got on the DS. To add to it, I couldn't have listened to music/watched movies, etc on the DS. Not very appealing for me anyways.
The PSP can also run homebrew of course, which just adds to the game library. All I could care about are emulators though, as I really haven't played a good homebrew game yet, except for ports like Doom. 1.5 isn't really a big deal to me now that I have it on my TA-82...I thought it would be...but now that I can emulate 1.5 on my psp, I have only been interested in running SNESme and Dgen1.7. Anyone have any suggestions for some good/addictive homebrew?
So the way I see it, PSP is not dead and will last as long as if not longer than the DS. I'm a little disappointed in how many people want to run ISO's on their psp though (unless they owned the game), as it is only hurting it's future. It's funny how many people can afford a $200 psp, and can't afford to pay $30-40 dollars for a game every now and then. (Heck, I even see games for $10 - $20 brand new now more and more every day...and they are pretty good titles too).
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Faced with the staggering numbers of how popular software piracy is. Theres nothing anyone can do to to supress the piracy scene. (sadly)
My opinion on game piracy is simple, If i cant beat em, i may as well join em.
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too bad yeah? anyhow it's not like only the psp has piracy issues. The PC has them too. Meh. The whole issue probably doesnt deserve this much attention since gamesradar isnt that big an influence. I'd worry if sony themselves said it, or konami,capcom or square enix.
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I mean basicly, When i read the post this is what i got from it.
Two super nerd fanboys went to the TGS, and didnt see a huge turnout for psp releases, Well i mean freaken Duh, Its been no secret that that psp is having a dry season, BUt that doesnt mean its failed, That just means its a dry spell, And every console has those, lol
I think the whole problem is there are too many die hard ds fanboys with a psp death wish, thats all this is..
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http://www.destructoid.com/pokemon-diamond-pearl-sell-out-japan
And if anyone wants to say anything about the PSP beating DSL in America or somewhere else (Dunno if it is or not don't really care just thought this article was crazy) then that's nice, but worldwide is truely all that matters. /end sounding like a fanboy
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A month ago i started thinkin´ about buying a DS, because there are more good titles for it.
I haven´t bought one yet, but i will, though i´m not gonna throw out my PSP, i still love PSP-Homebrew!!
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So in my book, the PSP did not fail, or anything close to it, it does everything I want it to do, I just want better games. Sony really should consider other things, and so do devs for PSP, only they can bring it out of the hole that some people think it is in.
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who gives a ***** what thay say i love my psp more than i love my kids
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The main problem with the PSP is that the developers and Sony don't use its enormous potential to the fullest.
The few devs that do are the ones that have given us Daxter, Syphon Filter and GTA:LCS. At this moments I think there are a few good ones to come soon (see the lists in other posts, I won't relist them again). A few exclusives certainly wouldn't hurt either.
Another point : if Sony released PS1 emulator half a year ago with games for 5$, we'd already be walking up to our knees in PSPs. Instead, even though they do already have it, they are postponing it, trying to make the best possible DRM in order to suck even more money from us. They forget that had they given PS1 emulator and that library of games for quasi-free, the sales of PSPs and Memory Sticks (you have to keep this isos somewhere) would sky-rocket.
Easy and free multimedia program would also be a factor. Any geek out there already knows how to convert their movies to PSP-acceptable mp4, but those atechnical folks are lost in the wild. And the content on Sony's page (trailers and whatnot) is crappy to say the least.
Game companies have noticed that emulation is one of the strong points of the PSP, but they are not playing that card well either. Most of the compilations are rather crappy and overpriced. Two already published collections of Capcom should fit on one UMD, be sold as one, contain a few more of CPS-2 hits (X-Men vs Street Fighter for example), cost under 20$ and contain an awful lot of trailers for new Capcom games. Then people would actually buy it, play it, and in the meantime say "hey, there are some cool new games, let's buy'em".
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And see the star of DS fading. There are not that many good games that are being published now and not too many announced. The DS games already exploit the system to the max - there is not too much place for development.
I don't see anything that would really surprise us on the Lite in near future. On the contrary, there are a few thing that might turn the balance a bit in the favour of the PSP.
Anyways, competition is good.
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also for all the people who just throw numbers, you have to realize that the psp cost 70 to 120 more dollars than the ds so of course the ds is going to sell more consoles and ds games usually cost 35 dollars instead of 45 so it pretty obvious that the ds should sell more games, and it is also obvious that the ds has a cult following from the gba which was one of the best selling system of all time so it makes perfect sense why games like mario kart and pokemon sell out because all the people from the gba just went to the ds and bought the updated version of those games. so you shouldn't be throwing that as evidence that the ds is better. (i also would like to point out that brain age also cost 20 bucks so it is a no brainer to buy it!)
and finally piracy didn't kill the psp either since the ds also has the same problem. someone can easily buy the necessary tool to pirate the heck out of the ds so the ds isn't safe from that either but i would point out that it easier to pirate on a psp than a ds but they both cost about the same price because of the ms pro duo.
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1. Rumours (ie. how does the Gamesradar know every developers opinion??? did they make a poll? I doubt that!) OR
2. Sales figures in Japan (I believe everyone has got the point of Japan being the difficult place for others than Nintendo, so lets get over it, won't we?)!
3. Some stupid fights about who did/stole what in the HB scene. Perhaps you can create a "release debate" forum topic... but come on... in your front page news:
"...uups, it seems this dev was doing that and the other one was doing that instead..."?
I don't know why you do it at QJ? Do you just enjoy shooting at your own leg or something?
PSP IS and WILL BE a very capable piece of art as a gaming device and as a portable media center, don't try to ruin the experience from people who are still considering joining the portable revolution.
Cheers,
j
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Sony really *****ed this system up badly. I recall reading a quote off of a site somewhere, and I wholeheartedly agree. It went along the lines of this:
"With the PSP, Sony could have had the next iPod. They could have created an extremely large culture devoted to it, and they could have let it constantly be upgraded with awesome features. Alas, Sony *****ed that up."
As an entertainment medium, it's pretty poor. Wanna watch movies on yo' PSP? Buy a bigger Mem Stick. Then you gotta convert the file to a ***** format, and have it be at a *****ty resolution for it to work properly. You can view photos too! Oh cool, now I can carry around those photos of that party last weekend, and show everybody how totally *****ed up we all got! Right. I think the Photo Function is the most flexable out of all of them.
Music works too, but the speakers make the PSP useless without a sweet set of cans to plug into it. Can't crank the tunes in a public place, because the speakers will be overcome by the sound of that fat guy sitting next to you ripping a huge goddamn fart. I suggest you move outta there as soon as possible. You can do it, the system's portble!
Game wise, it's only got a handful of impressive content. The DS has only a bit of content too, but at least they try. The only two games i'm looking forward to right now is Silent Hill and Metal Gear Solid: Portable Ops. Lumines II was ruined when they announced they were putting ***** hip-hop music in there to broaden the horizons. I'll take Every Extend Extra for those $30 instead, alex.
In closing, yes, the PSP has failed. This isn't nessicarily a bad thing, though. If the PSP is finally given up on as a platform, that means that the amount of homebrew will rip through the system like the devil himself. Look at the Dreamcast! The Devs didn't really get the ball rolling on that until after it was dead. Next thing you know, it's got a homebrew community that's larger than most any other i've seen before. Look at the bright side, look at the bad side. Which one seems better to you?
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TBH, we have a couple of people expressing their opinions that it has "failed" because they didn't find any games they like?
So, the Xbox has "failed" because it doesn't have many games that I like?
The PSP for me has gone heaps of games that I want, more than what I want on the PC or PS2 right now. I've got my shopping list ready for when I have the money to pay for it.
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Its a good job for the homebrew devs there the ones keepin the psp alive as far as im concerned.
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Nintendo had dominated the handheld market for 16 before the sony launched the PSP as a competator to the DS.
Despite this, the PSP got quite a large market share despite the mistakes that were made.
When the next generation of handhelds arrive, Sony will have learned from their mistakes and will dominate the market.
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At least IF Gran Turismo 4 is ever going to release, and the official PSX-Emu is coming soon.
Gonna get me a frickin' 4gb-stick for less than 100 bucks and play FF 7-9 as well, woohoo.
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psp is not dead.
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Plus There's no telling how great the four or five DS games will be. Remember star fox DS? Everyone was thrilled about it and it has been getting poor scores, and pretty much nobody likes the controls. I'm not saying every title on PSP is golden, but it's really retarded to claim a game great when it's not even out yet.
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A strange kind of "failure"
The only problem the PSP has is the failure to advertise it's games. There is a blizzard of adverts for DS titles, where I haven't seen a PSP game advertised on TV since Liberty City Stories.
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-MGS:PO
-Killzone
-Socom 2
-FF: Crisis Core
-Metal Slug Anthology
-Grand Turismo 4
-GTA: Vice City Stories
the PSP is definately NOT dead. Homebrew is on the rise as well. As long as there are homebrew devers and hackers, the PSP will continue to live. I myself do not have a PS2, so the PSP is awesome for me. I programmed z80 assembly for TI calcs and made homebrew games for that. Now, with the power of 333mhz vs. the sad little 15mhz overclocked ti 83+ cpu I had and monochrome graphics, I'm crapping my pants with the possibilities and the power I have at my fingertips. Long live homebrew and the PSP!!!
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and if sony embraced homebrew in a future firmware update they could run into some real legal problems because of the emulators running on it. Mainly things like GBAPSP and N64 because now nintendo is going to be offering n64 games on the wii and the GBa is still out on the market. if they allowed homebrew they could get their asses sued
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and i for one don't like how everything that is made for the DS is "kidified" ,hardcore gamers like me aren't kids" we don't want to play kidified games"
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DS games = 5-12 year old market (all those kiddy looking freaky games)
PSP = Every one else (Gore, death and racing)
Which age group buys all the handheld games... The 5-12 year olds.
They like kiddy, jump on box games. IF devs just looked at the DS games of nature they will surely understand.
Maybe when sonic arrives.......
Sure all the PSP games in the coming future are brilliant (ie: MOH). But it's those little kids who buy 50 games in one go.
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Look at nintendo. They are alwasy supporting the DS, AND!!! Wii at the same time. Sony have their foot way to far up there ass or something to realize that their PS3 is not god, no matter how much they prey.
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This kind of marketing makes me despise Microsoft. I've been interested in buying a 360 for Forza 2 (should it prove to be a good enough game), besides my sure thing purchase PS3. Heck, I even thought about buying a 360 if Sony somehow fails to deliver with the PS3 (for instance, delay the European launch once more), but really, when Microsoft pulls stunts like these, I have a very hard time doing anything to support them.
The PSP is a great success in terms of hardware sold, and I do wonder if the software sales are slightly suffering from more devhookers/illegal iso users, but all in all I have seen sales figures, and in general the revenue on PSP is higher per unit sold than for DS games, so that the total earnings usually make good on the DS competition to about 70%.
In fact, like on the DS, several games on PSP have sold more than 1 million already (Wipeout, for instance, which also has 500.000 downloads), and new big titles are being released all the time, with actually very good ratings too (higher on average than DS games over a higher amount of titles).
I think that before everything else, Microsoft is worried that the PSP is going to make a difference in the 360 vs PS3 war, because Microsoft don't have a handheld that can deliver such cool 'remote play' features as the PS3 has for the PSP.
The new network distribution setup as well as the PS3 interconnectivi ty are going to be a big boost for PSP. Especially the E-Distribution thing is going to add a lot of cool stuff, downloadable applications for your memory stick is going to be a lot like a legit form of homebrew, but with some much more professional applications and games thrown into the mix.
In short, this article is FUD, plain and simple.
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that way no piracy, homebrew, better games, no downgrading or hacking anymore :)
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maybe planetpsp.org has better news (obviously)
we love anti-piracy ses qj!!! hahah noobs
it's all about hacking and hexing.....
p.s. someone hack this site with a trojan to their servers and stuff like that,...
remember that article on pspjunk.net getting hacked with trojan;s!!!
someone do it to this site as it suxs qj butt !!!!#
the ps3 news int ever news cuz ive read it all days before so stop making up your own stuff that is false information otherwise you'll have a DS up yourr asss
sorry!!! you already have *****ling qj net staff wankers boloks *****faces!!!!
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The only thing we can blame Sony for is the failure of UMD movies. If the movies were like $10 a pop, or something realistic like that, AND there was a home-player available, they could'v been something.
Anyway, the PSP as a gaming machine still has a hell of a lot to offer. We just need some developers to START capitalizing on that potential and STOP shoveling out ***** like "Medal of Honor: Have Fun Playing This With Controls Straight Outta' 1997".
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It fails to live up to its (spectacular) promises in pretty much every single account.
Firstly, its multimedia capabilities are totally unimpressive. If I fill up the 1gb stick with MP3s, then I cannot fit a movie on it or game save data, and vice versa. Unless you buy ANOTHER memory stick (which is pointless when you could just buy a cheap MP3 player that is less likely to break or get lost and can use cheap replaceable AA batteries) then you can only really have a limited amount of media on the stick.
"Portable movies on the PSP"... But only if you don't want to have access to your MP3s, and your journey is precisely 90 minutes long, and you only want to watch the one movie you can fit onto the memory stick comfortably.
Also, you need to buy a new pair of headphones to listen to anything, as trying to listen to music on it in a pub is impossible using the headphones that came with it.
UMD movies / videos are crap. They are expensive, they are abridged, omitting pretty much all the special features and content you'll find on the DVDs, and shoddily put together, many of them have terrible aspect ratios you have to manually over-ride for it to be displayed properly, rendering the PSP's big screen totally useless. Big fan of WWE and want to see the Undertaker's "Tombstone" biography? Well, you're in luck, for merely an extra third of the cost of the 3 DVDs the set comes in, you can see less than a third of the content! Want to see episodes of Monkey? Well, again you are in luck! It costs more than the DVD series, and the episodes are non-consecutive, making any prospect of owning the entire series on UMD impossible!
Why on earth would you buy a UMD movie when you can get a DVD which will usually support a couple of different aspect ratios, have more than one disc of content, tons and tons of bonus material, and support 5.1 surround sound audio, instead of crappy stereo? Where do I want to watch my movies - in a nice warm room with sofa and snacks where I will not be interupted, or on a 45 minute train journey where I will miss the end, will have to suffer wrist twinges due to holding the PSP up for the duration, and eye strain due to the instability of looking at it while on the move. Not to mention the prospect of being mugged after advertising your expensive hardware to the world, and being far away from your other media incase you wanted to watch something else.
It's web-browsing capabilities are rather mediocre, I don't know about you, but I find that it is easier to use my PC to browse the web when I am in range of my home network's wifi hub, and hardly anywhere in my city has free wifi access, let alone free wifi access that is advertised and easy to get to. If I needed to urgently use the Internet, I'd simply go to a local public library or Internet Café where I can conduct my business in three seconds flat, rather than spend god knows how long tapping out a slow message one letter at a time.
WHERE'S THE EFFING KEYBOARD EXPANSION SONY?!? Up their fudge-tunnels, that's where. There was a great "portable" keyboard design which is simply two small boxes that "project" a keyboard onto any flat surface using lasers, and sensors detect your fingers breaking the light grid and interpreting it as "key presses" - a cheap effective portable keyboard, would truly make the PSP a "portable computer", etc. And did Sony see about acquiring or licensing the technology? Did they see about doing anything similar? Did they hell.
Can I play yahoo games online using the PSP? Something which might make its Internet surfing capabilities vaguely useful? Nope, no internet poker for me... The crappy Java couldn't handle it last time I checked.
What about Voice Over IP? SOCOM: FTB can handle it, so why hasn't Sony included the functionality into the firmware? Then perhaps I could consider doing without my mobile telephone, and thus wouldn't be carrying a device tha
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Sales are flat and publishers are running from what should be the premiere handheld on the market. Sony can do better.
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Most games are rehashes or straight-up ports. There's nothing even remotely unique on the way.
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Homebrew isn't hurting any Software developers for Windows PC's. Last I checked, World of Warcraft had over 6 million subscribers....
Sony needs to let the PSP be OPEN to ANY software - let the morons brick their PSP's if they aren't careful. The people who brick PSPs are the same ones who download "SUPER GAME CHEAT" programs which are really viruses...
There's already PSP emulators on the PC now - maybe Sony should wake up and realize it's never gonna stop and just let Homebrewers do their thing - cause Homebrew actually SELLS PSP's, not UMD movies.
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The psp has succeeded in the handheld race. Now with the forthcoming ps3 and psone Sony emulator the psp will totally win this race. Sure game boy has been around for ages but its a kid's TOY, not a sophisticated handheld console.The GB, gba, gbsp, nds are all children's toys and that's it. They don't have awesome processing power , they don't come with wifi preinstalled or ability to play music or movies. I think the pod caster is biased towards Nintendo and prolly wouldn't or couldn't figure out how to properly use a psp. The psp has thousands of hb app and games for it. Hell I have over 40 gigs worth of stuff for it. The nds you have to buy wifi and the browser separately, who the hell wants that. The GB-gbsp you have to get a hacker flash cart and risk breaking ur toy trying to configure it to werk. SHAG THAT!!! Who is this pod caster and what make them an authority on gaming. I'm a Pro-gamer, are they? No i don't think so.......
!!!!!!!PSP RULES all others DROOLS!!!!!!!
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Lets see here...
1) 128bit games on a 1.8gig disc.
2) Movies on 1.8gig disc.
3) Wireless connections between PSP's and internet.
4) Mp3 capability.
5) Large high resolution LCD screen.
6) RSS capability.
7) Location Free capability.
9) PSP camera on the way.
10) GPS on the way.
11) Awesome homebrew apps.
12) Movies compressed for play from the memorystick.
Did I leave anything out? All that for under $300. Sounds like a winner to me.
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Also bear in mind that homebrew means NOTHING to developers and publishers, as far as they see it, it is a commercial failure. There is little that is unique to the console besides being portable PS1/PS2 (big whoop), all it does is drive development costs up which means less risks with original ideas that can be developed.
As far as breaking your 'toy' (I assume you mean DS), what the risk of bricking your PSP downgrading?
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And here's my main gripe - what about the games? I've played dozens and dozens, as I used to work for a PSP magazine, and not one single game holds my interest whatsoever. The only even vaguely innovative games are GTA:LCS (which isn't revolutionary in terms of gameplay, and is only notable for the impressive use of the PSP's hardware), WipEout Pure (for the downloadable content, one of only a very small handful to use this feature, and a feature that is no longer being supported, as mentioned in a previous QJ article), and SOCOM: FTB for the Infrastructure mode support (again, one of very few to support Infrastructure gameplay).
All three games are relatively unplayable when on the move, due to any sort of bump or jolt during a car/bus/train journey will cause you to miss a headshot or collide with a wall, fundamentally missing the basic point of the console. They are trying to be "home console" games on a hand-held, a pointless exercise as you can simply *play games on your PS2 or PC if you are at home*.
The PSP has a fundamental problem with it's D-pad, which mean a massive number of units make games which use the d-pad totally unplayable. This killed Darkstalkers: Chronicle, and seriously hurt the playability of several other titles. I had to open up my PSP (voiding the warranty in the process) and use a piece of margarine tub and glue to "raise" the D-pad and solve the problem... A games console which requires surgery in order to be able to play games on it can ONLY be called a failure.
Where are the MMPORPGs for the PSP? It's real innovation - native TCP/IP connectivity via WiFi - is barely utilised. Where is the added content? Where are the fixes? Where are all the games with infrastructure support? Starwars Battlefront 2 doesn't even have it!
Nearly all of the innovative games feel "small" and half-baked. Metal Gear Ac!d was innovative, but painfully linear, full of tiny rooms. SOCOM: FTB had only a handful of easy missions, and while the multiplayer functionality was exeplary, any replay value it might've offered was totally undercut by the fact that you may as well just play SOCOM: 3 on the PS2, which any fan of the game would have anyway.
EA has only offered cut-down ports of their "daddy console" titles, many of which are barely optimised for the PSP, and certainly not thought out. None could really be called "games in their own right." Ironic considering the only two games that have any replay value for me are PGA golf and Tony Hawk's Underground 2: Remix. Neither of which are original or innovative in their use of the PSP's potential.
The *only* game I am looking forward to is Yu Gi Oh (how lame is that?!?), and even then I am prepared for disappointment, as I can almost guarantee it is going to be crippled so that Konami can extort the maximum amount of money out of people with dozens of sequels (assuming the PSP doesn't die before then) when they could quite easily use Infrastructure mode to download expansions to the card database, and guarantee truly MASSIVE sales of the game that way.
Apart from that, not a single title on the list to the right fills me with any hope whatsoever. You can pretty much guarantee that all of them will be cut-down half-assed versions of games that you may as well get on a *real* console.
Sony dropped the ball when it comes to the PSP, and only a couple of developers have been persuaded to even tentatively pick up the fumble. GT4, FF7, whatever. Even if they exceeded my expectations (itself pretty easy...), I think they will be too little to
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Connectivity with the PS3 is a total red-herring. The connectivity with the PS2 is only partially utilised (Socom 3, WWE Smackdown) and then only so that the companies can sell the same game to fans twice. If people think linking up the PSP to the PS3 will be any more succesful than the PS2 hard-drive, PS2 Network Adapter, PSP infrastructure support, etc etc, you are deluding yourself.
One thing that COULD breath new life into the old-girl is a functional Nintendo DSl emulator. It speaks volumes for the future of the console that the main shot in the arm it could potentially receive is to illegally leech sales off its rival...
Incidentally, the reason Sony hates homebrew is because PSP hardware has a very small mark-up. Nintendo have been known to sell consoles *at a loss* because they make up their revenue from licensing games. Saying "if Sony turned over the encryption key, more people would buy PSPs!" is NOT in Sony's best interest, as every console they sell that ISN'T being used to play media they have licensed (UMDs, specifically) is LOSING them revenue. If someone buys a PSP and then doesn't buy a single UMD, they are, potentially, costing Sony money.
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1. The games, regardless of how many bits can be processed at once, are on the whole terrible. Generally they are inferior copies of mediocre PS2 games. The fact that they come on UMDs is neither here nor there.
2. UMD movies bite. They are often abridged, they are generally more expensive than DVDs (although, just like in the early 80s computer games crash, they are finding their way into bargain bins at an alarming rate), and in every conceivable way they are inferior to watching a movie on a DVD. There are portable DVD players that are cheaper and superior in terms of display quality and size. There are very few circumstances where watching a movie on the PSP is anything more than inconvenient.
3. WiFi Internet access is redundant. Very few games use it, and most allow (or even require - Championship Manager for example) you to download stuff with your PC and transfer it across using the USB link-up anyway. Nearly all hotspots in the UK charge additional costs to access them, and in what conceivable way is it more practical to go out specifically to use your PSP in one of the few hotspots available for free than it is to merely go to somewhere that you can use a real PC for anyway?
4. Mp3 capability is redundant. Telephones, personal MP3 players, etc etc all do these things already, and won't leave you unable to play games on the PSP at the end of it all. I ended up wiping all mp3s off my PSP because it wasn't practical to use an expensive PSP as a cheap mp3 player.
5. The screen is nothing special. A significant proportion of UMDs are in 4:3 aspect ratio anyway, and many of the ones "corrected" for 16:9 suffer from poor pixelation at full size anyway. Yes it makes the games look pretty, but as the games generally vary between boring and just outright unplayable, that isn't very impressive.
6. The RSS capability was feeble when I was using it under 2.6. It was far from stable, and in each case would've been easier to download the mp3 file and play it that way. Really, who finds themselves in a situation where they can get access to a podcast from a PSP, but cannot get access to the content easier and more conveniently in some other way? I have to go out of my way to access the internet using the PSP, and if I use my home wifi network, I may as well use my PC to access things.
7. Location Free players didn't really make it to the UK, so it is generally one of the most redundant features every seen in any computer console or system. I'd never heard of it until I saw an article explaining how the PSP can use Location Free to play PS2 games (somewhat impractically). No-one I have ever met, no matter how much a tech-head or game head has even come close to smelling location free, let alone using it with their PSP.
8. "Picture viewer" - Hah... A £200 photo album? People use mobile telephones for that sort of thing, and they are much more convenient, due to being able to transmit and share information (movies, not just photos) across networks without requiring a wifi connection, as well as actually record them.
I cannot think of any conceivable situation where I would ever use my *PSP* as a photo album. "Yeah, I knew in advance you wanted to see this picture, so rather than e-mail it to you, or send you a link to photo bucket, or show you on the digital camera's display, or print it out, I thought I'd get out my USB cable, charge up my PSP, transfer it across and store it on my memory stick. Even though it would've been easier to use the camera in my mobile phone to do it in three seconds flat, using a device I take everywhere I go anyway and cost a fraction of the price of my PSP, and has longer battery life."
9 & 10: "Someday maybe never" developments aren't indicative of the console's "success". Both will cost *extra* money on top of the initial outlay for the console, and this only to bring it up to the standard of mobile phones that everyone owns already. This doesn't address the fact that these expansions will rende
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11. Homebrew aps are not indicative of the console being anything other than a failure. Homebrew costs Sony and other software developers dearly, and has a very limited effect on the commercial success of the console as a platform. Yes homebrew is nice, for those that can get it, but it isn't going to keep retail developers interested.
12. Movies which you've already purchased on DVD, and as such will be voluntarily watching on a smaller screen in less comfortable surroundings at lower quality than you would watch at home using your home-theatre system... I don't really see the appeal of watching the first 20 minutes of a movie during a bus trip.
A mobile phone can do everything the PSP can do (WAP, Bluetooth, etc etc), in some cases better, in some worse, and it can do it for a fraction of the cost. Many mobile phone companies here give handsets away free to contract users. And filling up a phone with MP3s doesn't then limit what other uses the phone can have. Hell, mobile phones can even do stuff "the PSP might one day be able to do..." And unlike a PSP, a mobile phone is an ESSENTIAL accessory for pretty much everyone in the modern world. If watching small chunks of movies of inferior quality in small cramped conditions is THAT important to you, then there are cheaper and more effective alternatives already on the market too.
Even assuming you pay $100 for a mobile phone handset and portable DVD player (if you shop around, you can get both for less), that still leaves $200 you are playing for *JUST* a games machine, and one which has *NEXT TO NO GAMES WORTH BUYING*
Doesn't sound like a winner to me.
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that idea stinks!
then everyone goes on about how psp will be great once GTA comes out...
well it's been a year,where's the greatness?
the ONE thing that would ahve made GTA great was online multiplayer,and guess what?
we still aren't going to get it.
2 years and nothing great has happened for this thing beyond emulation.
2 years!
even the ps1 and ps2 didn't take this long to warm up.
360 is popping out great games,DS was a tad bit of a stinker at first but they picked up the ball in less than a year with online games and better quality games.
i mean DS is getting Final Fantasy 3 (already has 4 and 5 and 6 are due out soon for GBA along with 1,2,and tactics)
i remember when i grabbed my psp on launch day at wal-mart in the snow "this will be great" then they delayed GTA,Gran Turismo,Metal Gear was stupid,Ridge Racer was a joke...Lumines was cool but no Tetris.
I also bought a DS at launch,gotta say Mario64 DS was horrible and played like sludge.
so basically this psp firmware update better come soon and it better blow me outta the water.
oh yeah and Sony has finally made me go from a launch day buyer to a mid-april waiter after this overpriced blunder.
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1. A lot of people were expecting GT Mobile to come out at or near launch of the system. Now it's looking like we won't see it until at least 2 years after the system has launched. March '07 was the last estimate I read somewhere... This is the type of title that sells systems. The previous titles in the franchise have shown that. PD lost it's focus and instead shelved GT Mobile to release Tourist Trophy on the PS2 and then to work on the abomination they're planning for the PS3. AFAIK, PD is owned by Sony, so if they're acting like the system is a second-rate machine, why should anyone else act differently? Customers and other devs may see it the same way I do.
2. Memory stick prices were still too high when the system launched. The high memory stick prices along with the relatively high cost of the system itself put the total buy-in cost out of a lot of people's budgets. The memory sticks have come down a lot over the last year, and now the Core pack is out, bringing the buy-in cost way down from what it was last year. Unfortunately, by this time, many people have already spent their money on something else.
3. Slow pace of game releases didn't instill confidence in buyers. From a consumer standpoint, it seemed like the developers were being overly cautious about investing development money in the system. To me, that gives the impression that they are skeptical of the system's likelihood to succeed. If the devs aren't confident, why should I be? IIRC, that was the same sort of thing that happend to NGage. Now we're in a catch-22 or "chicken or the egg" sort of situation. The devs seem scared to release games and that, in turn, is making potential customers scared to spend money on a system that might not fly. In order to test the waters, the devs release ports of games or simple games that can be made quickly and cheaply. I don't think they've realized that their approach isn't the best. That approach doesn't sell the strengths of the system well at all and doesn't offer anything terribly unique compared to other options on the market. Some people want that "uniqueness." Personally, I don't care about "uniqueness" of games. I just want some games that I can play on the couch, in bed, at the in-laws, or where ever I happen to be and i don't care if they are available on another system.
4. The system was designed for a slightly older target demographic that I happen to fit in. I'm 29, married, own a house and work a full-time engineering job and have a baby on the way. I don't have time to game like I used to in high school and it college. Many people in my situation either don't have the extra cash to spend on expensive toys, or don't want to spend it on something they don't have a lot of time to use. I make a decent salary at my job, so I don't mind spending the money.
5. Rumors of an updated system on the way never help sales. In the past few months, rumors have been aflutter about a slimmed down PSP coming sometime in the next 2 years or whatever. Look at how the DS "fat" sales dropped in the month or two leading up to the DS Lite release. Once word got out that a new version was coming, no one wants to buy the old version unless they can get it at a discount. The problem is that console makers work on the Schick business model for selling the consoles rather than operating the way other electronic equipment makers do. Schick sells the razor at a loss and makes money on the replacement blades much in the same way the console biz works today. Consoles makers may not be able to afford to discount the consoles when a new version comes out because they may be taking a loss on the system as it is. That's why they try to keep such announcements hush-hush right up until the product is released.
6. X-box 360 launched in the same year in the US. Many people would prefer to spend their money on a home console rather than a por
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6. X-box 360 launched in the same year in the US. Many people would prefer to spend their money on a home console rather than a portable. Most people that weren't early adopters of the PSP are then forced to choose where to spend their money (assuming only having a budget for one system). Some people that were taking the "wait-and-see" approach on the PSP may have been lost to the next-gen graphics, sweet new controllers, and updated Live services on the 360. Well, for the US anyway... It seems the Japanese gamers may have gone a third direction and kept buying those Gameboys like crazy.
Despite all these reasons, I still think the PSP can be considered a success. Perhaps not as successful over-all as the Gameboy line-up, but still pretty good for a rookie effort in the portable biz. They've sold how many millions of PSPs already? How long did it take them to sell that many PS1's? As numerous others have already said, more great games are coming over the next couple of months. Some of these may be "killer apps" for some people, particularly MGS: PO and the official PS1 emulator. Heck, perhaps even a mapping utility to work with the GPS add-on would be enough to drive a lot of sales. There is a lot of potential yet to be realized on this little black box.
Sony may be in for a rough patch, though. The PSP seems to be just getting rolling with some good titles coming, but I have a feeling it's coming at a bad time. The ramp-up has been too slow and now we're getting close to the launch of the PS3 and Wii.
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They get all the cool game contracts because developers don't like the stupid UMD format and the crappy loading times when they can use cartridges and have almost no load times.
The DS is just an easier, cheaper platform for making games. And Sony is only concerned about keeping Homebrew down, not promoting and producing for the PSP.
Sony sucks, their attitude sucks and I hope their overpriced PS3 flops too.
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it actually hasnt, the gamecube sold 20 million units, while the psp only shipped that ammount and sold only about 13 million, judging by the lower and lower sales considering the next gen systems are coming out it might take the psp just as long as it took the gamecube to sell 20 mil.
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like the screen is so small, i hate using the stupid other screen..but i admit DS have sum pretty kool games! and i still like it, but look at all the games PSP can play! thatz sooo kool!! and plus i heard you can download and play games on PSP 1.50 version THAT JUST AWSOMEEEEEEEEEE EE!!!! you have 2 spend no money..all u have 2 do it by like a 2 gig memory stick..which cost like 130$ in canada in futureshop and u can play games and wen ur done with dem delete dem. and you have ur space back and look at all the money u just saved. like 3-4 games cost like umm..150-200$ just imagine how much money u save and plus of all the emulators too i mean SNES games arent that much but there hard to find...i am a DS onwer myself i love my DS still..but PSP its way more kool and plus u can even play music!! now thatz SICK!!
A ds is very good and i love mines
but all u DS onwers u guys have 2 admit PSP is better than the DS by like 10 miles! its just that u guys own a ds so u feel itzz the best and same with psp owners! but if u had both none of u wud gave a dam lol! im not saying anyone one of them arent fun to play!
but psp is just better..
DS 8/10
PSP 9.5/10 ( i wud of gave it a 10 but just cuz of peopel who have 2.80)
and SONY if u let people upgrade and keep the homebrew thingy and dont patch it! im sure u wud outsell the DS!
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PS1 bought 2 in its lifetime, with 20 games
PS2 5 years, bought 2, 15-20 games
PSP 1 psp, 9 games in just one year and a bit.
Ive bought 9 games in just over a year, and although i admit, i havent bought one since buying Bleach 3. The Psp is young, the thought of being able to play Ps1 games on it alone makes the PSP a success. It will be cooperating machine along with its big brother PS3. Name one portable system that holds these capabilities.
I believe Gamesradar is looking at PSP as a media Failure comparing it to ridiculous media driven releases such as Ipod and MS's new media toy due out this X mas. That may be true, but PSP is not a Media driven system, UMD movies are a failure, but that does not effect the systems success. No one really bought the movies, since PSP is primarily a gaming system allowing you to play your favourite PS titles no wires attached and with wireless worldwide multiplayer. That is the PSP's main goal, but with the ability to expand in the media sector. Not that it needs to, i along with most PSP owners bought it for its abilities and gorgeous screen.
Although PSP's lifespan may be short, it will be used along with PS3, and may even live on after PS3, who knows. I agree PSP is a failure as a media handheld. As a gaming machine, i bought PSP and 9 games, works out to about $700. x's that by a 1 000 000 (+) yeah, multimillion dollar earnings, possibly more. Thats more money than Gamesradar could ever make in all their employees lifetime put together. So i would call Gamesradar a failure, rather than PSP.
Also, the untold reason PSP is a success.
The PSP was used as a warm up for PS3. The interest in the PSP ultimately maintained the fans interest in PS, while Xbox 360 and Nintendo were on the verge of creating their machines. It worked. Nintendo did the same with DS. DS being more successful does not make PSP a failure. Xbox opted out of the portable gaming. In their creation of a new Gen system. only 3 years after the original release. Had they taken the same route and not hurried, they would see success in the longrun. Small steps will prevail for Sony and Nintendo.
On a personal note, i wanted to express my bitter distaste for anyone's bad opinion for PS3. Sony has from day one, been the best gaming platform for its whole lifetime. No other system delivers the gaming experience as exceptional as PS releases can.
Wii, nor Xbox 360 will deliver anywheres near the gaming experiences PS3 will. The titles for PS3 far outdue Wii's and Xbox 360's.
Resistance: Fall of Man (ps3 only)
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom (ps3 only)
Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, The
Genji: Days of the Blade (ps3 only)
Heavenly Sword (ps3 only)
Alone in the Dark (PC/Xbox 360/PS3 exclusive)
Warhawk (ps3 only)
Assassin's Creed (ps3 only)
Unreal Tournament 2007
Armored Core 4 (ps3 only)
Gran Turismo HD (ps3 only)
Grand Theft Auto IV
Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots (ps3 only)
Final Fantasy XIII, XIV, XV (ps3 only)
Final Fantasy Vs. (ps3 only)
Devil May Cry 4 (ps3 only)
Burnout 5
Turok (Xbox 360,PS3)
!8 titles, some include Xbox 360 releases as well, most PS3 exclusive.
These are releases to be released within the next year and few months. 18 reasons PS3 will easily be successful. If you just look at the trailers/pics, it is stunning to see. PS3 is the next PS2, everyone will know its name, everyone will either have one or have a friend who does.
It is reasonable to point out one of the 3 systems that will not live through the next 5 years of "next gen" gaming.
Coupled with a 60 dollar controller, a gaming experience that will leave ppl tired and not wanting to play games long, poor choice of games, extremely poor graphics for the most part (Red Steel is the only title i find appealing)
Wii will ultimately be the failure. Much like the Gamecube, at first it may appeal to its former audience, but looks mean everything in gaming, always has.
The audience has always longed for a system delivering beautiful, re
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this is why homebrew kicks ass and i dont upgrade
besdes, VCS will boost the PSP a lot, the only thing is, sony is depending on that one title a bit too much
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they are just 2 negative nerds here blabbin. they need to getout or get a girlfriend. lol drop the games and lose the spare tires. lmao
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GTA VCS
MGS PO
ELDER SCROLLS: OBLIVION
Call of Duty 3
Medal of Honor
Burnout 4
Ace Combat
Monster Hunter 2
(2 PSP titles won best-in-show awards at the TGS, DS only had 1)
Since when did high-calibur titles like these, and a succesful TGS showing, mean a dead system?
I sense Nintendo fanboyism...
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MGS (which you mentioned)
GTA: VCS
Killzone: Liberation
SOCOM: Fireteam Bravo 2
Death Jr. 2
Ratchet and Clank: Size Matters (not until 2007)
Lumines II
Gunpey
Every Extend Extra
Mercury Meltdown
That's not one or two good titles, that's a *lot* of varied, high quality titles. And except for R&C, they're all coming out this season (and I left plenty of good ones off that list). I'm sure you can come up with a list or rationalization s why each and every one of those is terrible, but basically you hate Sony and will find a reason to hate any Sony platform exclusive title no matter what it is.
The DS is good as well, but posts like this are just obnoxious. Really, that's not an ok lineup or a good lineup, the PSP has an *awesome* lineup this year.
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It also seems that sony has fallen into the same trap that microsoft has with windows. ENOUGH WITH ALL THAT CRAP ABOUT UPGRADING THE FIRMWARE. Sony is obligated to do so after every exploit is found. Why? What if for example Fanjita releases a photoshoped screen shot of a supposed game that he is working on and gives out a demo to try it out and it bricks EVERY SINGLE psp that runs it, then what? If you were running the current firmware then the fault solely lies on the user else sony would have to answere to it. Some thing with the libtiff exploits, except Sony didnt make it, someone else did. Also with the homebrew people seem to be able to get it to run on all the firmwares released. Bt it has gotten progressively harder. This is Sony learning from thier mistatkes. If microsoft was like Sony many of the games/apps that windows have may not be possible. Another thing with hombrew is what is to stop EA from bypasing Sony licencing and release straight to consumers. Thats what Sony is afraid of. not the average homebrew maker/user.
So in short:
1. It's the developers fault NEVER the consumers.
2. People expect the second coming from the PSP and NOT the DS
3. Sony is obligated to update the frimware nomater what.
Also my preview into the future:
Somewhere else on the form someone anounced that they have ported java to the psp. Since the sony Mylo is java enable I am beting after the ps3 and the Mylo comes out there will be a unified system update for all 3 of the systems adding java to the psp and making the ps3 Mylo aware.
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1) 128bit games on a 1.8gig disc.
2) Movies on 1.8gig disc.
3) Wireless connections between PSP's and internet.
4) Mp3 capability.
5) Large high resolution LCD screen.
6) RSS capability.
7) Location Free capability.
9) PSP camera on the way.
10) GPS on the way.
11) Awesome homebrew apps.
12) Movies compressed for play from the memorystick.
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i see nothing special about a NDS, if you was touch screen go get a PDA, if you want Nintendo games, go get a game boy/advanced
the ds is *****, the games might be original but there pants
the psp might have ports, yet they are good
and what the hell are you lot talking about bugs in games for?? cant say iv found um an i own over 20 psp games
as for the Wii, i'm sorry Nintendo, you will have to try harder than Zelda and a dodgy control system to get me to look like a right prick in my living room waving the damn thing at the screen
if you want versatility go for a psp
if you want games get a PC
if you want crap get a DS
Nintendo only brought out 3 decent things, 1 was the SNES the 2nd was the N64 (an that only really came of age with Golden eye) and the other was the game boy
and who was the numpty who said Sony would be dead if it wasn't for the psp? get a grip lad, Sony make more things than just consoles
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Also something people should realize is that this came not from gamesradar.com but from a podcast from some guys that works on gamesradar..so ok the guy that mops the floor on gamesradar suddenly is the mayor autority on gaming?.I dont think so.
And yet the PSP line up looks better than the Ds one, have selled more units than the x360.
OMG Teh Irony.
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If they would just focus on one thing at at time and work on the main thing that got them at the top which is games instead of worring about internet and downloading, maybe they could compete with Nintendo.
Hopefully, they will learn from this, but by the way they are working with the PS3, I doubt it.
Damn same.
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Because he says so?
Because it didn't beat the DS? NOTHING COULD. NINTENDO OWNS THE HANDHELD MARKET.
But the psp is NOT the NGAGE.
GET SOME PERSPECTIVE PEOPLE. By reading these comments you'd get the impression that the psp was on the same level as crap like neo geo or ngage that come out and have about as much impact on nintendo as a spec of dust.
The PSP is actually a good system with decent enough sales. Well ahead of previous Nintendo competitors.
Failed? NO.
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OK the rss and the location free player are just "WTF??" and the Internet browser is a joke with the text input
yet it is a very handy device
i use my psp for all kind of things, you say that you can get the same job out of a mobile phone? LOL since when can a mobile have up to 8 gig of memory?
the mp3 player is useless if you have nothing to use it with, i recently brought a car, one that i can not mount my £400 JVC car stereo in, and the bog standard tape playing in the car. can not play me CD's
yet the good thing is, it has a CD headphone jack in, a quick trip down me local cable shop and £3 later, i have a in car MP3 player
not to mention the fact i can ***** off out an whilst chilling in the car in a nice little place, i can watch a film (and unless you cant encode your movies very well, i have no problems with very good picture quality) and have the sound coming out of my car speakers instead of having to sit an listen to it through headphones or the psp's speakers
also, you say the games are *****ty, this is a matter of opinion, you see i have a PS2 but i hardly played it, i have a PC and i play that more, PS2 couldn't handle the games i wanted to play, yet then comes along the PSP,
to every Sony fan boy who has played every single PS2 game release, they are the same games, yet to someone like me, i find, the same fun as you did when you first played them on the PS2
i can also transfer large files from one PC to the next, with out having to use disks, or take files round my family and friends houses without waisting disks
also, about your home brew comment, I'm sorry but doom and quake alone are worth it, let alone all the SNES games and SEGA games i can add to it
As for the PSP being dead, i say bollocks to that fooker
there are games coming out for it, Sony has always started off slow and then found the groove once they have ironed out all the creases
if they want to save the psp, all they have to do is get a move on with such titles as GT4 and FF, two very big names who will stomp all over the DS and Nintendo
anyway, i haven't seen any "Good" ds games out, they are mainly boring crap ones, that Nintendo hype to the max in advertising, i cant say iv seen one PSP advert in the UK yet, be it for a game or the console its self
and why go out and spend money on 4 items that the PSP is fully capable of achieving with the same results
And trust me on this, its great to rub some snotty bastards nose in it when he whoops out his *****ty little 2 function Ipod, an you whoop out your PSP
PSP isn't dead, and to be honest anyone who says other wise needs there head testing
if it was truly dead, do any of you truly believe that there would be games coming out for it, or shops would continue to stock it?
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The psp is sleek, every one iv ever got my psp out to has been very interested in it, regardless of the games, the shear look of the thing is sexy, compair that to a Nintendo DS that likes to think its the next PDA for games with its touch screen (not like that hasn't been done before lol *cough* palm pilot
also add onto the that, the psp is aimed more for a mature market (what child would find the GPS usefull anyway?)
and the camara coming out for it (there goes your argument for the photo album) with its 16:9 viewable screen to look at the photos on, bigger than any camara / camara phone screen iv come across, and you can clearly see that Nintendo hold the market due to being aimed at children and it being *the next best thing to own in the playground*
some people here argue the fact that it breaks easily, WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING??
no offence but if you cant look after the *****ing thing, that's your own god damn fault, not the developers
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Firstly, being able to plug an audio-jack into your car and use your PSP to play mp3s over the car's audio is not at all exciting. You can get a USB MP3 player that does that for a fraction of the cost of even a cheap 1gb memory stick, and you don't have to worry about the storage space on that being filled up with music and having no room for anything else, or using up all the battery time so there is no charge left for playing games.
Secondly, I very rarely find myself in a situation where I would be watching a movie in a car, rather than driving said car to a place where I could watch a movie in comfort. Home, for example. If I *did* find watching movies in a car to be a priority, I would've saved myself a lot of money buy buying one of those portable DVD players which have a larger screen, better encoding and playback fidelity, and allow me to watch any DVD I own without having to mess about with codecs, compression, transferring across media, etc etc.
As for the games being crap, yes it's a matter of opinion, but I really can't see anyone saying "why, such and such a game is a work of video-gaming art, it justifies buying the console on its own!" All of them are infinitly forgetable, and not one single game justifies the prohibitive cost. They are all pretty facile, and it is rather sad that people try to say "the DS is just a kiddy toy!" when these fan-boys are content with the most two-dimensional dross to be ported straight from the PS2 to their plates.
Transferring large files? Pro Duos cost significantly more than USB drive-sticks in terms of both capacity and versatility. I can use my mp3 player in much the same way to transfer files, and it costs signicantly less than a comparable capacity Pro Duo.
"and why go out and spend money on 4 items that the PSP is fully capable of achieving with the same results"
Because those four items can do everything the PSP can, and do so more conveniently and for less cash.
And, to the fanboys (not #199) who are tut-tutting my posts, your criticisms might carry more weight if you didn't give off the impression that you have the mental faculties of a pre-teen.
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those other items might be able to do the things you say, but they don't play psp games, they don't have a 16:9 LCD screen, they don't play movies (well some of them anyway)
there are more of them for the same job as one item
so you don't like sitting in your car watching a movie?
i do, and i don't see the point in rushing home to watch a film when i can stay where i am and do it
there are 8gig memory sticks on the horizon for the psp
why would i want a crappy tiny cheap ass-ed MP3 player when i can use my psp, and its got better sound quality
no point in rushing out to get a USB hard drive when my psp can handle it fine
what are you doing wrong to get a low battery life?
my battery has been working fine for all 3 of my psp's that i own, never had a problem with them tbh, all of them last over 6 hours playing games, all last over 8 hours playing MP3's
why lug around a laptop that is far bigger / doesn't play psp games / battery lasts far less longer than psp
working on your philosophy, why bother with all them extra items when i can simply use a psp
you have argued about using so many different items for the jobs that a psp can do, i'm sorry you have had a bad experience with your psp, yet, mine has worked flawlessly with every thing iv thrown at it that doesn't involve the web browser (i have a PC for the web)
its more a practical thing more than anything, and if you opened your eyes, you would see this
as for "being able to plug an audio-jack into your car and use your PSP to play mp3s over the car's audio is not at all exciting"
i didn't say it was "exciting", its not, but it does do a job that it wasn't designed for
so yes, i like the psp, its a lot more versatile than a lot of the equipment you have pointed out (apart form a laptop for obvious reasons)
id much rather have the one item to do the same job as many, it saves room and in the long run saves money
and i'm sorry but you can now pick up a 4 gig memory stick from E-bay for about £40
so lets look at this in properly then shall we
portable dvd player = £99.99 for a half decent one
Mp3 player = £39.99
USB hard drive = between £40 for a crap one up to £200 for a good one
games system = sorry bud but I'm not buying a DS for no one (but say i did, £99.99)
any Internet capable device (IE full access) PDA ranges from £99.99 and upwards, laptops range from £299 and upwards
I'm not sure if your on the same playing field as me
that in its self is over £370
right lets see the comparison
i brought my 1st psp for £125
i brought a 1 gig memory card separate for £20
usb charger cable data cable £4 from Woolworth's
total £149
yet with that i can
play games
play movies
play MP3's
use it as a mass storage device
play home brew
show friends my pictures
upgrade the memory
surf the web with difficulty (but i can still surf the web)
I'm sorry to say this, but you make a mute point
as i said, from what i can tell your just arguing for the sake of it
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Which company in their right mind would want to develop on a console with that kind of costs without the user base to support the return?
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who says so? its absoloute rubbish and it makes me realy angry - ppl are just jumping on somkind of psp bashing bandwagon, the fact is theres plenty of must have psp titles that kick the *****e out of anything on the DS - GTA vicecity storys, Tekken, ghosts and ghouls, soon we'll have killzone,
psp will live
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In car DVD player, £75 which is better than the PSP's video playback in every respect. Larger screen, higher resolution, supports FULL DVDs, not a crappy proprietary format.
1gb MP3 player, £20 - can be used to transfer files just as easily, if not more easily than the PSP.
Mobile phone, free with your contract, and even if you are on a pay as you go option, the cost is irrelevent as you will need a mobile phone ANYWAY. This can be used to access the internet both using WiFi and the cellular network, and do so with greater ease due to having a real keypad rather than having to cycle through letters individually, and several have a full qwerty keyboard built in anyway! And you can "upgrade the memory" on them too for a price directly comparable to that of pro duos. These phones support java natively, and so can have any "homebrew" people intend to code. You can also play games on these handsets. Yes they are crude, but then so are most of the 10 year old games people emulate.
Call that £100 for the lot.
Let's look at your prices...
1gb pro duo is *£30* now. 9 months ago it was double that.
PSP is at least £135 for a second-hand jap value-pack console. £170 for a brand new giga pack. 9 months ago it was nearer £200 for a value pack with 32mb stick.
Add in the cost of getting GTA:LCS that a vast number of people will need to downgrade their PSPs or just run homebrew via the eLoader, that's another £15-£30.
So, that is £100 vs £170 - £200. With that £70 - £100 you can purchase a DSl if that is your bent (contrary to some of the idiots posting here, I am not a Nintendo fanboy, I neither own nor like the DS) or, more sensibly, get a PS2 that will give you access to the full range of PSP titles cheaper, and with better graphics and gameplay, AND all the titles that don't make it to the PSP.
The prices I picked were the cheapest (UK) prices on the web, as collated by shopgenie.
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When it comes down to it, you are paying through the nose SOLELY for PSP games (due to other devices doing all the multimedia functions cheaper, faster and better), and PSP games are diabolically bad. If not, then why are people playing emulated games from 10 years ago? Yes, I love the retro classics as much as the next man, but if people are saying "hmmm, shall I play a nice shiney game that uses all this functionality I boast about? No, I'll play a game that doesn't use 3D acceleration at all..." what does that say about the games? Simply, that they are dross. They are inferior to games coded 10 years ago.
The very reason people are saying "ahh, but X is on the horizon" is because, after two years, the PSP has got nothing out there already to boast about, and that is just plain sad. Just look at all the people whose posts rely on promises made rather than delivered to justify their fanboyism.
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if they are so inferior why are retro packs released and so popular on almsot any console?
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And to you moron fanboys blaming Japan; Sony is -in- Japan, and the japanese played a huge part in the PS2's success, as well as the PS3's hype, so don't point fingers, it only makes you look even dumber.
"OK HOW MANY GAME BOY WAS OUT IN THE PAST 20 YEARS THE PSP IS A GROWN MAN SYSTEM NOT A CHILD "
LMAO, what are you, 10? Oh yeah, the DS is definetly a baby system, so what is the PSP for, retarded infants (like yourself)?
"The PS3 will usher in compatability with PSP games that will breath new life to the PSP."
'Cause we all know GCN-GBA connectivity breathed new life into the Gamecube [/sarcasm]
Whatever, I'm perfectly satisfied and glad I bought my DS, it's a great handheld with great games, and that's exactly what I want, not a sub-par Ipod.
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The library is what drives a console, and if there is not content people aren't going to buy the system. Sony abandoned the PSP right after the release, when it should have been nurturing developers and attempting to attract new consumers.
I own a PSP and I haven't turn it on in 6 months, and the only games I own I purchased when the system was released. Why? Because my DS is far more entertaining. I check the games at my local gamestop every time I stop in, but have yet to see one additional title I have even a remote interest in.
So what am I supposed to do with my PSP? Its too big to replace my iRiver. Sure it can play movies, but only if I buy over priced UMD's or pay the price of another PSP in Memory sticks.
People say the PS3 will save the PSP, and I say bull. While its novel that the system will be able to connect to the PS3, in the end its still only a $200 controller. Sony should have picked up that lesson with the Gameboy / Gamecube link.
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The psp is still very much alive. If anything the DS is dead, what are these so called great games they are talking about. there's more trash released for the DS than anything else.
There are so many points to argue i'm not even going ot attempt to
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btw how cool is that case? where can i get it?
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You really need to shop around mate, a second hand psp for £135 ?? LOL, £115 here where i live in Northampton
£30 for a 1 gig? £20 here matey (try eBay as well for the 2gig sticks, i think you will find there quite cheap about £27 if you get them on "buy now" see below's link)
http://search.ebay.co.uk/memory-stick-for-psp_W0QQcatrefZC6QQcoactionZcompareQQcoentrypageZsearchQQcopagenumZ1QQfromZR10QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQga10244Z10425QQsacatZQ2d1QQsaprchiZQQsaprcloZQQsascsZ2QQsbrbinZt
GTA to downgrade? what planet are you on? iv downgraded two psp's so far and i didn't even have to use a game, (let me give you a hint, UP GRADE TO 2.71 then USE the TIFF exploit down grader)
So, so far we have a £135 or around £140 if you opt for the 2 gig stick from eBay
also why pay full price? if your going to use it for home brew. you may as well go second hand, (even second hand from a retailer it still comes with a 3 month guarantee)
Balls to the web, support your local shops, you'll be surprised how much they can knock off the price, (ill get some pictures for you from my local store so you can see, ill upload the links tomorrow)
So still working on your basis, that's one hell of a lot cheaper for something that does the same job and that little bit extra
Sorry mate, your going to have to do better than that i'm afraid
P.S, who said you need a jap psp to downgrade to 1.5? both my 1.5 psp's are the European versions and i have no trouble playing any of the 1.5 homebrew
Still you don't get it, why bother with a portable DVD player, then add onto that, a cheap and tacky MP3 player that you cant upgrade the memory on?
And in the process limit your self to what it can do (IE no games?)
I still think your arguing for the sake of it, but its OK, tomorrow you will have some lovely photos to have a look at
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I was using retail figures from the cheapest online retail stores. However, I am willing to concede that the console bombing means some independant retailers are trying to dump stock as fast as possible with excessive markups below RRP.
Also, comparing the prices the console has fallen to *now* (and will fall to in the future) doesn't retroactively make it good value for money for all the people who purchased it 1 - 2 years ago, or a stunning success for those two years. Similarly, 2.71 hasn't been out for all of the last year, nor has the tiff exploit been available for it. *And*, I won't be spending twenty quid travelling to Northampton (not to mention the investment in time) to secure a cheap unit, let alone a second-hand unit which may have a scratched screen or be of dubious providence.
Even if we accept your figure of £140, which I have demonstrated is unrealistic for the majority of people purchasing it (lower than RRP means low margins or even a loss, and on a still expensive item, that lowers the total turnover), that is still *£40* more expensive than the combination I outlined for a device which offers *less* functionality.
Why use a portable DVD player and add a "cheap tacky" mp3 player you can't upgrade the storage on? Because the portable DVD player is superior in every respect to the PSP's video playback, not only in terms of video and audio quality, and the fact that, unlike UMDs, DVDs haven't been rejected as a format by major movie studios.
And because if you are going to "upgrade the storage" on the PSP, it will still cost the same, or more than, a personal MP3 player of the same capacity which has *EQUAL AUDIO QUALITY* to the PSP, *AND MORE FUNCTIONALITY*, in that it supports more audio formats, has AM/FM radio, etc etc.
Even using your figures, you are spending £40 for the PSPs games, which are *still not worth playing*. Seen as you are so keen on second hand stuff (even though you ignore the fact that if you are not using retail prices, then you can get a portable DVD and personal MP3 player cheaper. 1gb personal mp3 players are given away by some online retailers as a "spend more than £X and get this FREE!" offer) you could still use that £40 to get a second hand PS2.
Buying a PSP is "limiting what you can do" because out of all the things it does, it does most of them in a particularly mediocre manner for a *higher* retail price than alternatives with greater functionality and versatility. Yes, it's smaller, and yes you only have to carry one item at a time, but these two things are trade-offs. If any one component in the PSP fails, then you lose ALL its functionality, and will most likely have to replace the whole unit, rather than just a "cheap ass mp3 player" or getting a new mobile phone handset.
It's small size is at the cost of functionality - UMD movies have been dropped by several studios, so no more of them, and they were crap anyway. Apart from games (which are crap, I have half-a-dozen games I got for work and have barely touched any of them in an entire year, and these are the ones I liked MOST) how are you "limiting yourself" by going the way I suggested? If by "limiting yourself" you mean giving yourself greater flexibility and quality of use for 30% less cash (that's using your rather optimistic pricing system), then hell yeah.
The only way the PSP is "expanding what you can do" is it is giving you a portable (and severely cut down) PS2 (with very limited catalogue) for the same price (again, this is using your figures) as a PS2 you can play on a big screen with better controllers and more complete games. And I personally do not think it is worth that.
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For those that have to travel often, the PSP is a godsend. I love being able to play Madden, GTA, Loco Roco, etc. on a plane or train. If some developers have problems with the system, it's those developers that are to blame, for taking a PS2 game and stripping it bare then throwing it on the shelf for $50. Developers like Rockstar actually build games for the system, not rush everything out to make a quick buck.
That said, Sony needs to get off their anti-homebrew stance, since it could sell them a whole lot more hardware and also increase software sales.
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Try making the games $15-20 as a market test and see what the demand is like after 3 months.
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1) a PSP game would demand much more content than a DS game, both graphically and code wise = more expensive
2) I dont think we could convince a publisher to fund such a big project for a handheld. Its tough as it is to get funding for the PC/console market.
I realize this is a SONY news site so this is probably not the best place to bring this up, but Id much rather develop games for Wii than PS3 for the same reasons as I would for the DS - small budgets and an innovative platform. Obviously I want the same horsepower as the PSP or 360, but as I said, the fact that the horse power is there pumps up expactations on content and therefor the budget for the developer.
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Sales are flat and publishers are running from what should be the premiere handheld on the market. Sony can do better."
how else can sony support it better, its not their fault the majority of the users are using devhook/isos.
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GTA - failure? What about some of the addictive little fun games like Exit? SSX4 was great too! Then there's Virtual Tennis (friekin' difficult but still cool)...Tekken Dark Resurrection (brilliant)...Ultimate Ghosts 'n Goblis...Ridge Racer...Need for Speed Most Wanted...Mercury...Burnout Legends...Wipeout Pure...The Godfather - Mob Wars...Lumines...Everybody's Golf...etc.
Obviously there is some complete ***** along with the good titles (but this happens with all platforms)...game that really sucked bad were...Fired Up, Ghost in the Shell, Star Wars Battlefront II, Ape Escape, Metal Gear Acid, X-Men Legends 2, etc.
So there is the good and the bad...unfortunately for the people that want the psp to fail (that's you little Johnny and Danny Boy) - it ain't gonna happen!
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To sum it up, Sony went from 0% of the market to around 40% and has sold over 20 million units. That cannot be a failure.
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