Details for redesigned PlayStation Portable revealed

Posted Jun 8, 2007 at 9:02AM by QJ Staff Listed in: PSP Tags: Flash Memory, Sony
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It was bound to happen. With all talks of Sony's PlayStation Portable being too bulky and too heavy especially compared to its main competitor - the Nintendo DS - it's only a matter of time before Sony gave in to the calls for a PSP redesign. Kotaku now has a post up revealing some details regarding the upcoming "toned down" version of PSP, information they claim to have come from "several sources close to Sony".

As expected, Sony focused on giving it a slimmer design which Kotaku credits on "a new LED screen that will deliver an ultra-crisp image but take up far less space". Hardware specs are to be retained (meaning it should be as homebrew- and hack-friendly as the current-gen PSPs) but the sexier model should have a longer battery life (again thanks to the new LED that appears to consume less power), a faster version of the UMD drive (giving us better loading times and gameplay), and an 8GB worth of internal flash memory.

A built-in camera and glossy or matte finish is still being decided. Kotaku assumes the new unit to cost buyers US$ 170, with a release date somewhere between August and September. The redesigned PSP will allegedly highlight Sony's booth in E3.

What strikes me as surprising though is that according to Kotaku, the phonenixified PSP will carry a completely overhauled set of controls (they compared it to PlayStation 3's D-pad actually). This is a bold move for Sony considering that most of the games out today are coded using the current PSP's controls. It can also mean a nightmare for developers of PSP games since it could translate to two sets of control schemes to develop for.

Should we expect the two generations of the PSP to carry completely different control schemes? I'm still putting my money the redesigned PSP having the same control schemes but perhaps an improved analog stick and better button placing. Sony just can't afford to have the headaches two PSP versions having completely different controls will definitely bring.

Thanks Ninjax for the heads up!

Via Kotaku

 
 
 

Comments [refresh]

by random - 2007-06-08 03:24
» booooo

First!!

by Ground_Sniper - 2007-06-08 03:27
» Wonder If

They'll Let Us Old PSP Owners Trade Em In For This Slimmer "Sexy" Model I'd Like That...AS Long As I Get To Downgrade It =]

by somebody - 2007-06-08 03:30
» ..

lol some bugs are in the comments... anyway:



"an 8GB worth of internal flash memory."

o rly? i don't believe it, why would anyone want to have 8GB internal flash memory? ok, guys who download games, or guys who run homebrew (although no homebrew would take this much space), both which sony hates. oh and for videos, ok that would be nice, but i think 8gb flash costs too much that it would be worth installing it..

by nathan - 2007-06-08 03:37
» 8 GB of flash?

I wonder if there will still be a MS duo pro slot... I guess we'll be back to the $250+ price point if this is true.

by calo - 2007-06-08 03:44
» 8gb

8gb flash yeah right, if so, what are we meant to do with our old ones throw them in the bin?



this is bull

by emitrom - 2007-06-08 03:44
» 8gb is not expensive..

If we as consumers can buy 4Gb memory sticks fro m £40-50 then I am sure that sony can get some very cheap memory for a new machine especially as they buy in bulk.

I was hoping for a second analog stick personally and built-in mic for the VOIP without a headset.

by Chrizzly - 2007-06-08 03:47
» riiight

"Hardware specs are to be retained (meaning it should be as homebrew- and hack-friendly as the current-gen PSPs)"



They are calling back PSPs in the Netherlands to make them less hackable and this new PSP will be hack-friendly? Not likely.

by Nsane - 2007-06-08 03:47
» hmmm

i doubt that the new one will be as much homebrew-compatible as this one...

and it's kinda hard to believe there will be any hardware changes... just look at the old PS's ... they were only retouched... there was no hardware change...



Faster UMD ? hard to believe... it migh cause incompatibility with the old UMD's... 8 Gb memory is hard to believe too...

it's true that Sony might think that the psp can take the place of any Mp3 player anc become the new "walkman"...but... -_-

by dsi - 2007-06-08 03:53
» the screen improved?

Will they fix the annoying ghosting issue with the screens in fast-paced games?

by somebody - 2007-06-08 03:56
» @emitrom

maybe, even if we say it would increase the price of the psp by 40pounds, which is not little, not enough people would profit of it, so i don't think that sony would build it in.

by manaox2 - 2007-06-08 03:57
» what?

This doesn't seem right at all. It could never have another control set and still be called a PSP. The 8GB internal flash not only does not raise the price at all, but adds another dimension to killing off the pro duo format and reducing upgradability which doesn't sound like Sony. A slimmer LCD (not LED!) screen makes sense and some other features, but this sounds like a hoax that needs to be put into, as qj so lovingly calls it, the "rumor category".

by J Z - 2007-06-08 04:14
» also

They possibly could do the 8gb for music as well?

by www.pspscene.net - 2007-06-08 04:18
» not believing it

I still don't believe that this will have 8gb of internal memory. I could see it being released like the original Xbox 360 was. A nonharddrive model for one price, and another price for one with a harddrive.



And the current PSP firmwares are nondowngradeabl e, so one can only hope that the devolution chip can be used with this.









check out www.pspscene.net for all your PSP needs.

by Chris - 2007-06-08 04:22
» Likely not...

High quality screens (S-PVA, S-IPS) have longer latency times than lower quality screens (TN). I would imagine Sony wants the screen to be of high quality so will still use those slower, but much better color/detail LCDs.

by somebody - 2007-06-08 04:24
» hmm..

of course i'd like the psp to have 8gb of internal flash, too, but as manaox2 already said:

"The 8GB internal flash [...] adds another dimension to killing off the pro duo format"

and sony doesn't sell the memory stick pro duo sticks relatively expensive for no reason ;) i mean, andone who buys a sony-product (cam or psp or...) has to buy a memorystick of sony, so they can hold the price at a relatively high 'level'

(nah, my expression sucks....)

you see J Z, what I say is not that the flash would be useless, I say that I don't think sony would actually build it into the 'new psp'

by False - 2007-06-08 04:28
» False

False, and why does it say LED, shouldn't it be LCD, unless its talking about sony's new OLED technology, which I highly doubt they'd inculde at a $170 price tag

by teh not so 1337 g@m3r - 2007-06-08 04:31
» Meh.. another system to hack....

Honestly, I can see what Sony is doing. It partly is because of the fact that they must compete with the Nintendo DS. But also, doing this gives them another shot at stopping hackers. If it has a different control scheme, then obviously, it will also have different bios, at least in a hackability form. For all we know, this could be a completely new challenge, like the PS3. Remember, it took around 6 months to even begin to crack the original PSP's firmware, remember?



-Jeff

by 007 - 2007-06-08 04:32
» 8Gb is doubtful

I don't think news comes from no where, but about the 8Gb of internal flash you know the trend of Sony announcing their specs. The PS3 was supposed to be 3.6?Ghz with dual HDMI output. Now its less speed and one HDMI output.

Besides the fact that the flash does add to production costs and everyone who really wanted a PSP must have got one by now. A redesigned PSP should appeal to those who didn't buy it because of its look or high price and therefore the price should be kept to a minimum.

Unless Sony decides to launch a premium version of the PSP with a higher price tag targeting hardcore gamers, now that would be bad strategy.

by teh not so 1337 g@m3r - 2007-06-08 04:32
» Meh.. another system to hack....

Honestly, I can see what Sony is doing. It partly is because of the fact that they must compete with the Nintendo DS. But also, doing this gives them another shot at stopping hackers. If it has a different control scheme, then obviously, it will also have different bios, at least in a hackability form. For all we know, this could be a completely new challenge, like the PS3. Remember, it took around 6 months to even begin to crack the original PSP's firmware, remember?



-Jeff

by ~ - 2007-06-08 04:34
» ~

could be that the 8gb of internal flash will be used in the same way the ps3's harddrive is being used:

install bits of games on it to speeden up the loading times.

Anyone ever thought of this ?

by Andy C - 2007-06-08 04:34
» I call...

SHENANIGANS!

by OMG - 2007-06-08 04:43
» Yeah.

OLEDs are not meant to be used in devices that needs to refresh constantly...

by yes - 2007-06-08 05:22
» oh

yes! i concur

by Silver-Tiger - 2007-06-08 05:33
» wtf?!

I can't imagine that there will a new control scheme. And a 8gb internal flash? you're even paying for one single 8gb mem stick around 160 bucks. And now in the PSP integrated? Compared to cheapest price of the PSP (149 with nothing in the package) it would be over 300 €...



An intregrated Camera? no way... the new PSP would compete with the old one...



One question: what are your sources QJ? I wouldn't trust them anymore, you know, there are a lot of people out there, who call themselves Sony workers....



And "PlayStation Portable being too bulky and too heavy?"

It's not much heavier than the DS and the PSP has far better hardware inside.

by floxnard - 2007-06-08 05:58
» not real

Yea, plus it's not at all like Sony to upgrade the actual hardware as that disenfranchises people who own the current hardware. I think they will most likely, just make it slimmer. The current hardware is fine. It wouldn't be worth abandoning their reputation to make the new one overshadow the old one like the DS did. I know some people who had a DS, then bought a DS light when it came out, because it had a bigger screen and was smaller and lighter, etc. Sony has, in my mined at least, built a reputation for reliability in the lifespan of their hardware, and I do not think they would want to forsake that just for some new sales like Nintendo did.

by in my honest opinion - 2007-06-08 06:14
» i am in love with the psp

i find nothing really to bad about the PSP its pretty d*mn portable the screen is just right , and the controls are classic, heck I even like the analog stick, I wouldn't mind the normal ps2 analog stick but that would make it look bulky and just horrible looking. The only other thing to wrong with the PSP is probably the battery life but what do i know?

by Unknown27 - 2007-06-08 06:18
» As long as the Homebrew Community Thrives!!

Let the good times roll...

by god0fgod - 2007-06-08 06:43
» No

Doesn't seem real to me.

by Atrix - 2007-06-08 06:45
» flash mem

You can not look at memory sticks as a way to price the cost of flash. The flash that fits into a memory stick must fit a certain form factor, namely the size and shape of a mem stick. On board memory for the PSP could be larger and thus cheaper. I imagine that if Sony included 8GB of flash on board, the flash chips they chose would be very different and much cheaper than the chips used in the 8GB duo stick.

by Snarg - 2007-06-08 06:55
» .

I think it's 8 gigabits, not 8 gigabytes.

In otherwords 1 gigabyte.

Wouldn't make sense otherwise.

by Ritterrav - 2007-06-08 07:11
» well

Well, we all kow that it will be redesigned.... no brainer. BUT, the new control scheme? naaa, and they wont get rid of the Pro duo, because then that would put a limit (maybe one that wouldnt be reached soon, but a limit none the less) on their product, that they never want to do. ALL I WANT IS A PICTURE!!!!

by kwastie - 2007-06-08 07:17
» just remake

About the calling back of the console, it's not completly true, because i know allot of places where i can buy a psp :) so it's like a sort of hoax... created by sony?? Xd but i only think they will update firmware version because i still can buy "K" version(2.71 firmware).. and it's a remake only like ps1 and psone , ps2 and pstwo., there just going to make it smaller and cheaper

by HARDcorGamerxXx - 2007-06-08 07:30
» well as long as it has homwbrew i will get it!

that is all i care about i will just waite 4 it 2 come out

by manaox2 - 2007-06-08 08:34
» I haven't heard that...

I think the reason they wouldn't be used is that it would make each psp worth about $10000 currently because the manufacturing of Organic LED is so pricy currently. I won't be seeing a portable gaming device that sweet before 2010 probably (and I will be buying that).

by .. - 2007-06-08 08:35
» ..

omfgwtfbbq

by manaox2 - 2007-06-08 08:39
» IMHO

I think the screen is beautiful but the latency is very blatently obvious. The stick could be a little better, but now without being much more fragile. Slimmer would be a nice feature, but not worth buying a new one and definately not one that I have to wait to be hacked. The UMD drive clip is too flimsy on the original design. I wouldn't mind seeing some of that G-Wireless too. Other then that its fine, certainly not something Sony needs to change seeing as how sales figures are. Announcements like this that probably aren't true are just shooting Sony in the foot on sales when people wait for something that isn't coming.

by Ryants - 2007-06-08 08:46
» some of you guys are funny

"8gb of flash memory is impossible because it would cost too much"



ohh realy, do you people really think that if sony put an 8gb flash chip in a new psp model it would cost them as much as if we went to a store to buy an 8gb memory stick???



new screen?? why not, everyone knows that current psp screens have ALOT of dead pixels = /



as for compatibility issues, i think sony will try to make it harder to hack, but in the end it will have to work like the old psp models and thus, be just as vunerable =)



and i agree with Ritterrav, SHOW US A PICTURE! =)

by Chrizzly - 2007-06-08 08:49
» you're right

@kwastie thanks for the replay. I just read that Sony is denying the callback.

I can hardly wait for E3.

by stevo111 - 2007-06-08 09:06
» IDIOTS

FFS STUPID DUMBASSES ITS NOT 8 GIGABYTE ITS 8 GIGABIT

by irononreverse - 2007-06-08 09:14
» dead pixels

Not any more dead pixels than any other LCD device, £5000 LCD TVs for example, also suffer from dead pixels, things like failure rates and faults are always blown out of proportion with game consoles.



I have two PSPs, neither have dead pixels and two DSs, one has a stuck pixel.

by ... - 2007-06-08 09:15
» ^^^

YES 8GB INTERNAL FLASH! ISO's HERE I COME!^^^why do you think its gigabit?

by I_SAY - 2007-06-08 09:22
» I DONT THINK SO >+(

I dont think so... :S ... remebrer that SCE just made the PS3 and that made them loose money (LOTS OF IT) remember they are reducing the amount of workers in gaming division... well they also made all that psp/ps3 connection capabilities... Im thinking that if they do that they are going to risk much more than loosing actual PSP's fans ... they will be risking SCE... (also 8gigs will raise to much the price... not just 10buks -the actual psp costs 160- )



what do you think ???? :S

by ugh - 2007-06-08 09:24
» ugh

its got to be a mistake, i think it is 8mb bumped up from the current 4mb? and it wont be accessible to put stuff on, its like ram... unless i am completely off...

by he - 2007-06-08 09:40
» wtf

where are the other posts

by stevo111 - 2007-06-08 09:52
» F.U.C.K you

Go F.u.c.k yourself

by rafi - 2007-06-08 10:19
» 8gb internal

isnt the psp's flash just only 28mb? (flash0 + flash1)



unless they plan to make it so theres certain things that the psp will not allow you to add into the chip like say anything with .iso /.cso in it, which i dont know if ppl can just eaisly change .iso to .rep (just random 3 letters)



seems unreal

by Shadownet - 2007-06-08 10:29
» No

no they're not calling them back, they're just selling out, read the new article

by . - 2007-06-08 10:31
» .

MATTE PLX.

by channel 45 - 2007-06-08 11:32
» do it

LETS WATCH A DISNEY CHANNEL MOVIE

by oajghepi - 2007-06-08 12:17
» 8 Gb memory bull****

On todays laptops, you can only get a maximum of 2 gb TOTAL ram! So I highly doubt that it will be 8gb internal flash memory on the psp. If this is true, (which its probably not), it must point to an 8 gb hard drive of sorts

by mr toasty - 2007-06-08 12:56
» it's possible

8GB of ram is ridiculously unnecessary, which is why it isn't found in computers. there is also a big difference between RAM (volatile, fast write/read speeds) and Flash Memory (non-volatile, slower read/write speeds)

by dfas - 2007-06-08 13:09
» dsff

maybe when they said 8GB flash memory they ment like insternal storage area...like a interneal memory stick that u could use... but idk. computers can have 8GB of ram though... but it is really unnecessry, 2GB is already a bit unneccessary.

by jhkjk - 2007-06-08 13:11
» jhkjhkj

Slimmer screen...anyone seen the OLED screens...there thin...so thin there bendable. But only problem with them is that they dont last a long time

by mr toasty - 2007-06-08 13:17
» please, i'm a sony fan but

the psp IS way too big, even without a case it just bulges out of my pocket. A smaller PSP with a matte finish and camera PLUS 8 gb memory? seems too good to be true. That being said I'd pay way more than what they're asking for this baby.

by Jack - 2007-06-08 13:18
» 8GB

Lol ffs noobs...8GB of storage space, as opposed to using memory sticks. Like an iPod nano has 2, 4or 8GB or storage (for example). Not 8GB of RAM. 2GB of RAM isn't even mainstream for PCs yet.

by mr toasty - 2007-06-08 13:22
» nope

8GB means 8 Gigabyte. other wise it would be 8Gb (small b)

by .... - 2007-06-08 13:44
» ...

I see no ghosting at all and most people I have talked to report no ghosting as well....I think the ghosting problem is not as bad as some people think and only affects a small number of people.

by ... - 2007-06-08 13:48
» ...

The PSP isn't much bigger than the DS Lite...if you compare them side by side, with the DS Lite folded...they are near the same size. Plus, I can fit the PSP into my pocket no problem...maybe if you didn't wear your tight emo pants...it would fit fine. Plus, if all of these reports were true...the new PSP would cost around 250-300$...so these reports are bull crap anyways...so I don't care.

by Dookie - 2007-06-08 14:09
» ...

1gb of flash mem would be perfect

by Dodo - 2007-06-08 15:25
» PSP Lite FTW

OMGZ OMGZ ORGASMZ x2 !!



I'll be happy to have-



- Lighter, slimmer design

- Tigher lock for UMD door so the disc doesn't shoot off into someone's face

- Matte finish

- More life on battery included

- More responsive buttons, comfortable standard thumbstick

- 8GB flash memory



The rest sounds just fine. New LED screen and faster UMD drive excites me. I just hope they don't mess up the controls to jeopardise games on the original PSP.



Can't wait for more info!

by idiots - 2007-06-08 15:57
» idiots

u idiots dont know the difference between RAM and memory

by 'old' psp owner - 2007-06-08 17:49
» New psp new controls?

If they do make a newer psp with a different set of controls, and if even one new game lacks support for the old psp's control set, then this is the last time i buy a Sony product...

by ... - 2007-06-08 18:11
» ...

Personally, i like my handhelds to be heavier, DS feels too light... Also,too bulky? you want something like the GBA MIcro? ugh.Ugly.

by lollolololol - 2007-06-08 18:35
» stupid

dosent sony realise that their PORTABLE PSP costs like 1 wii....without homebrew PSP is crap.

by ... - 2007-06-08 19:48
» You mean...

"Meh.. another system [for other people] to hack...." It's really annoying when people act as if they help to hack the PSP, when really they just sit around complaining when an exploit in the latest firmware isn't found within a week. In reality, there's only a handful of people who made PSP homebrew possible.

by ... - 2007-06-08 19:51
» Who..

Who refers to flash memory in bits nowadays?

by . - 2007-06-08 19:53
» ..

I can't believe it's not butter!



oh i have big hands i don't want a smaller psp, i like it just how it is... thanks sony!

by ... - 2007-06-08 19:53
» Idiot

Why would they bother restricting file extensions? That wouldn't do anything. It's not as if allowing ISO files on the HD would allow them to be played; it would still have to be exploited.

by Fuc you are stupid - 2007-06-08 19:55
» idiot

8GB flash memory. NOT RAM. Storage for media, not running-programs memory

by doodad - 2007-06-08 21:11
» ^....why?

just run it as an iso and its almost twice as fast....

by doodad - 2007-06-08 21:14
» The entire article is bull****

I swear every time a new rumor comes out, QJ reports it like it was dictated by god himself. Thats why i take all the non-homebrew related news here with 2 grains of salt....

by dodad - 2007-06-08 21:19
» thats not gonna happen...

until an exploit is found for 3.50+ because its a definite that the redesign will come out with the latest firmware, which at this moment is not hackable and it doesn't look like its gonna be fr a loooooong while!!!!!

by PhoenixBh - 2007-06-08 21:30
» Heavy!

You know i don't really mind it being heavy or bulky, cause the way i see it if it powerfull than its ok with me, but its not that heavy anyway and i can fit in my pocket easily, thats were i have it all the time when im out listening to music.

by Ryants - 2007-06-08 22:03
» psp flash +> 33mb

the PSP flash is 33mb, you can download the 3.03 downgrader to test it (the downgrader includes a NAND dumper with a few other programs to test 3.03 HEN)

by Ryants - 2007-06-08 22:16
» TFT Dead Pixel Allowances :

You might not notice your dead pixels...

anyway, i honestly doubt that a £5000 LCD TV would have as many dead pixels as a psp, there are standards for these sort of things you know



for £5000 i would hope you LCD TV is a Class I...



http://www.arbico.co.uk/TFT_Dead_Pixels.htm

by admins of page say something - 2007-06-08 23:09
» he

admins of page what do you mean with 8gb say it post it in the cooments please



but who said that 8gb must so small like a pro duo? perhaps its 3 times so big then it doesnt costs so much!

by - - 2007-06-09 00:05
» OLED Video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v+H7QbQugXy1A



Very Impressive Tech

by American patriot - 2007-06-09 00:19
» Goddamn Jews

The fuccing jews try to screw Sony again. Damn them *****s. We should callém screws and not jews, because they are so *****ty and they smell like ancient barnacle fin.



Go away J-O-O

by Mad Editor - 2007-06-09 00:19
» 8 gb where's the problem ???

Don't you guys remember the multimedia capability os the PSP, 8 Gb storage for music, video, photos...



I don't know why you seems so disturbed by that...



8gb flash memory is around 40$ nowadays...

by yes - 2007-06-09 01:13
» yes

yes, who said that this memory will be like a memory STICK?

by Kranksy - 2007-06-09 01:44
» kasdjaks

The LCD screen being brighter may be true. Also, the slimmer psp also may be true. I however do think that the 8GB is bull,

for that price. I think the battery life could be improved, as well as the UMD drive. But putting in the 8GB internal memory will just kill memory stick pro duo sales, because what else do you use a memory stick pro duo with except for SONY products?

And the price..........249$

by Black PSP - 2007-06-09 01:56
» Price

No the price is 170$. Its in the news: A built-in camera and glossy or matte finish is still being decided. Kotaku assumes the new unit to cost buyers US$ 170, with a release date somewhere between August and September. The redesigned PSP will allegedly highlight Sony's booth in E3.

by na2ru1 - 2007-06-09 01:57
» simple

they will only do wot they did with the Playstation2.



And stop complaining bout the 8GB. Why do IPOD nanos have 4-8GBs for music only?



I dont do homebrew

by na2ru1 - 2007-06-09 02:05
» YES

OLED is gd stuff and i fink Sony made a sexy lil OLED screen a size of a picture frame. VERY thin. Google it on image

by nunya_business - 2007-06-09 04:05
» to www.pspscene.net

frowny-faced for unnecessary promotion

by bob - 2007-06-09 04:10
» laughing at you lot

what a bunch of s*****s,



You cant put 8gig in a PSP lol what a load of *****, check out the 60gig IPOD and tell me it cant be done,



8gig in flash memory is ***** all to Sony, and why would it bump the price up? its not like they don't get them in bulk, damn kids need to go learn something



Sony memory stick sales will drop if they redesign the psp? hang about, i cant see anything in that article that states they are dropping the current memory stick format on the PSP?



The psp isn't the only Sony product to use memory stick duo, their cameras do as well, so do their phones, and they sell a lot of phones.



slimmer design? not to sure on, mine is fine as it is,



Better screen, yep look forward to that



Controls based on the PS3 game pad, yeah add another analog stick and ill be fine, put them above the buttons and Dpad, even better



You lot need to stop whining and just wait till E3 before you comment, but shoving 8gig into a PSP isn't impossible and it wont effect the price.

by BAD - 2007-06-09 04:33
» LED Screen

I think the LED screen they are referring to might be the new LCD screens backlit by LED instead of the previous generation of cold cathode fluorescent backlights (CCFLs), as is the case with new Apple MacBook Pros (15" model). They provide better brightness, better uniform lighting and color, and longer battery life due to lower power consumption. Here's an article with more detail if you care to read: http://www.appleinsider.com/articles/07/01/22/next_gen_macbook_pro_to_shine_brighter.html

by DtotheK - 2007-06-09 05:08
» ...

the name PSPee better catch on!!!

They'd be legends if that was it's official name.



I'd by a PSPee defiantely



anyother psp redisign id have to think about it!

by kefka12 - 2007-06-09 05:19
» 8GB

the flash memory is def. internal storage data. not ram. if it were, the device would cost a lot more than US $170. although the price does seem ridiculous even for that much memory. plus, isnt E3 dead... like not gonna happen anymore?

by mr toasty - 2007-06-09 06:28
» e3 isnt dead

just really really downsized

by mr toasty - 2007-06-09 06:31
» umm

it wouldnt be that hard to implement something in the psp to recognize and slow down the umd drive speed.

by mr toasty - 2007-06-09 06:45
» HA emo-pants

Yes. I'm an emo. I like cutting myself. WAHWAHWAH



There we go..misread my comment and then insult me over it.



I said it bulged out of my pocket. It fits just fine, but I'd rather not look like I've got a lopsided hard-on whenever I take it anywhere. Weight is no issue to me, long as it isn't dragging my pants down I'm fine.

by mr toasty - 2007-06-09 06:49
» idiot

I'm gonan say what i said to the guy up above. 8 GB means 8 gigaBYTE



8 Gb means 8 gigaBIT



The article says 8 GB

by LordOnager - 2007-06-09 07:06
» About the 8 gigabytes of Internal Flash

If Sony was going to put 8 gigabytes of Internal Flash, they must have a plan to use it. Either this is mis-information and was meant to be Internal Memory (most likely), or Sony plans to make some big updates to the firmware (for example, 7 gigabytes worth of anti-homebrew software). Also, the only reason Memory Stick Duo's cost so much is because they are a closed format. Only Sony is licensed to produce them, and therefor they can make the price whatever they please. You can buy an SD card with 10gb of memory on it for 25 USD, but a 1gb Memory Stick Duo costs 50-60 USD minimum. If they included the internal memory at 4gb, and as Memory Stick Duo's are about the same size as an SD card (in volume, not in shape) it would only cost them about 22-23 USD to make a 8gb MS Duo. That's only 11-12 British Pounds, or 17-18 Euro.

by killer - 2007-06-09 07:55
» bull*****

the only thing Sony need to improve to the psp are some minor functions like the second analog stick, the L2 and R2 buttoms, the rumble feature, the capability of use two memory sticks on a psp, redesigne the buttoms, especially the d-pad, the lcd screen is fine for me, add more memory to the psp itself so it can take less time loading a game.

by ugh - 2007-06-09 08:06
» ugh

please tell me what the difference is between 'random access MEMORY' and 'MEMORY... be specific if you are trying to make a point so that YOU dont look like the IDIOT

by ugh - 2007-06-09 08:11
» ugh

but psp wont make that big of a dent it sales of ms pro duo, plenty of other products use the stick - phones, cameras (picture and video), some mp3 players, plus prob alot of other products.

by ugh - 2007-06-09 08:20
» ugh

putting the 8gb was never a technical feasiblilty issue for me or prob some others on the forum. and a 60 gig ipod uses a small hard drive, this psp will not be using a small hard drive, it will be flash memory (meaning like a memory stick or usb stick) no moving parts! so you are comparing apples to oranges when proving technical capabilities. the issue is this: why put 8 gig right into a psp? will it be available to us like a memory stick plug and play, and if so how will it work together with a memory stick that you may or not put in it? will there be 2 different roots? will it combine them? its all VERY vague and we need to wait for more details to be certain. and i agree, i dont want a smaller psp, how the ***** am i supposed to hold the thing with 2 hands if it is any slimmer.. it will take alot of getting used to

by doodad - 2007-06-09 08:22
» not really

sales of memorysticks bc of the psp account for more than 30%. I dont even want 8 gigs... U cheap ass bastards! Go buy urself a 4 gig for 50$ and hush!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!

by doodad - 2007-06-09 08:26
» u keep dreaming

there's no chance in hell that there's gonna be a second analog stick or L2/R2 buttons so dont hold ur breath kid...

by LOL - 2007-06-09 08:35
» LOL

Its extrem easy to use another analog stick -.-

by kefka12 - 2007-06-09 09:40
» hmmm....

could this sleek new design have something to do with the psp recall in the netherlands??

by somebody - 2007-06-09 09:53
» Dont

Don't disturb our intellegent convo w/ your stupidness you twit

by link1227 - 2007-06-09 10:19
» think Ipod

lets put it this way an ipod can have 40gb right???

by 100th post - 2007-06-09 10:25
» 100th post

100th post yea i pwn ;p

by wtfisq..jcompletelyretarded - 2007-06-09 10:51
» yes, they are

how would it be a different control set, the "control set" as you call it hasn't ever been changed, even on ps3 your retarded to thing the button placement is different so why the hell would you call it so, its just button placement not "control set" as you call it that would mean they are completely rearanging buttons which they would never do as i have just said ITS THE SAME ***** AS ON PS3 RETARD! (minus the L2 and R2 but then you still dont refer to a controller as a d-pad because d-pad+digital controls of a controller) retard....

by joedoe - 2007-06-09 11:30
» Control scheme?

I'm hoping that by new controls they mean ADDING A SECOND ANALOG STICK.

by 666_Dark SeRaNADE_666 - 2007-06-09 12:42
» Reality or Conspiracy

....Only one way to find out

by BLEH! - 2007-06-09 13:01
» seems fake

Nothing in that article made me believe this is true.



Even if it was released as described, I probably wouldn't buy 1 because I think the size of it is perfect right now (as a gaming console). If it were smaller I'd use it for music as well, but I bought mine for gaming. I mainly play homebrew and ripped PSone games now, and I'd say all redesigned PSPs will come with a new firmware with all securities as 3.50.



That said, if the new PSP has any new hardware, it may be possible to find an exploit.

by mr toasty - 2007-06-09 14:29
» if you really don't know what it is...

Memory is what you save your files to.



RAM is a proverbial desk for the CPU, it holds whatever the CPU is working on at the moment.

by NOT RAM - 2007-06-09 14:54
» NOT RAM

Do you people like to add words to your reading? Nowhere in the article did it say RAM. it said "an 8GB worth of internal flash memory." FLASH MEMORY!

Flash Memory is solid state memory much like the pro duo memory stick. Its not RAM.

by Big Larry - 2007-06-09 15:28
» OK

I've heard almost a year ago that Sony planned on having 8 GB or 16 GB of fixed internal memory in the PSP.

However, even that new Mylo takes the Pro Duo.

(I think it comes with either a 2 or 4 GB Duo and it did cost like $350, though it may have been slashed recently.)

It would have to raise the cost beyond $170 I would think.

The PS3 does have SD slots now and Sony wouldn't even allow that on the recent laptop releases. Maybe they are giving up on making the Duo bigger than an SD.

The size of the Mylo proves that they could pull of a much smaller PSP fairly easily.

The major thing here is will it be hackable?

I'd be willing to bet it would be impossible, but look how far we have came with our current PSPs.

No, they wont change the controls. The may add a 2nd analog stick, but I'm a thousand percent sure it would support all games out now.

I don't care about the internal storage memory.

If it is homebrew friendly again I'm copping it.

If not I'll stick with my little 2 year old.

Extra storage is just icing on the cake, though I do find it interesting to see what happens to the Pro Duo in the future.

by Austin - 2007-06-09 16:01
» Dumbasses.

It says 8GB Internal Flash Memory. i.e. internal storage capacity on falsh memory, not RAM. And also, I believe LED is correct (light-emitting-diodes if I'm not mistaken). They are cheaper and much brighter and crisper in many devices. Though AMOLED would be better (Like in the iriver clix2).

by thach - 2007-06-09 16:22
» they should rearrange

Stupid analog stick should be where the d-pad location and vice versa. Your hand hurt rotating the thumb down to where the analog is located. Since we use the analog stick more it should be in a position which is more comfortable.

by OLED Screen - 2007-06-09 17:47
» STuPid HUmaNs

Or.. IT will be a led screen... an OLED screen is only 1mm thick, flexible, and needs no bakclight. Very power efficient, beautiful screen. Original PSP should have had OLED not crappy old LCD.

by how about we call it RAM and "storage" - 2007-06-09 17:50
» Queef

Do you talk about the memory on your hdd for your pc? I hope not. If you say memory, people will assume you mean RAM. If you mean like on a "memory card" call it storage, or drive space, not memory.

by your a biggot - 2007-06-09 17:52
» biggot

Suck me b!tch

by Blastermega - 2007-06-09 18:12
» The ultimate portable gadget

Okay.... Have fun with your PSP2's, Sony fanboys! Unless you are obsessed with videogames, the ultimate portable gadget will be iPhone Pro. 10GB flash memory (not hard drive), 3.2 MP camera, second VGA camera for iChat, Multi-touch screen, 9 sensors (ambient light sensor, accelerometer, 3 proximity sensors, 2 shock sensors, and a heat sensor), Quad-band GSM, Wi-fi, HSDPA 3.5G, UMTS 3G, EDGE 2.5G, Bluetooth 2.0+EDR, OSX 10.5 Leopard, Safari Web Browser, iLife Mobile, and much MUCH more! Still wanna PSP?

by david - 2007-06-09 20:57
» cheap flash

8gb of flash shud be very cheap

nowadays 2gb cost

by Ryan - 2007-06-10 00:17
» Brilliant

I want this if they really do use a LED screen the battery life would be much much longer not to mention the screen would be much brighter and 8gb flash would be good, they should add more ram to so the web browsers runs faster and doesnt give constant out of memory statements. HOWEVER the retail price would be EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE the psp is a very powerfull device and implementing all the old stuff plus camera and 8gb flash means everything needs to be very condenced, plus an LED screen would be very expensive to implement although think about it this would be the perfect portable device - a camera, mp3 player/mp4 player, amazing 3d console and internet ready, THERE WOULD BE NO NEED FOR IPODS this consoles specs with such a small size would never amount to $170 lol more like at least $300 especially with a LED screen. SORRY BUT THESE REPORTS ARE ABSOLOUTLY CRUD lol

by Ryants - 2007-06-10 01:31
» why not??

that might be exactly what sony wants... even if they don't make money selling the console it self, normaly once people buy a console they buy the games that go with it. Nintendo did the exact same thing a while back when they cut the gamecubes price, they were actualy loosing money when they sold em but they knew they'd brake even thanks to game sales...

by stiffler´s mom - 2007-06-10 03:20
» yeah

Jews smell like nappy headed hoes

by kayne - 2007-06-11 00:10
» asdadas

also Scandisk is allowed 2 make pro duo and they are cheaper AND faster

by someguy - 2007-06-11 13:46
» Half-bright

OLED technology -- which averages 10,000 hours until it becomes half as bright -- still lags behind the 30,000- to 50,000-hour lifespans of today's large televisions.

by counterstrike08 - 2007-06-14 13:24
» wtf???????

if any thing they should make able to play ps2 games and dual analog sticks

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