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XBL's Greenberg: PS3 online is "yet another knockoff"

Posted Oct 21, 2006 at 6:58AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Aaron Greenberg, Gamerscore, Microsoft, playstation 3 updates, Sony
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aaron greenbergDuring a Gamers' Day press event in San Francisco, Sony finally showed the public a few features that their PlayStation Network will have; video streaming from PS3 to PSP, downloading games directly to the PS3's hard drive, etc.

Naturally, this drew a huge crowd, and we think it's safe to say that Microsoft engineers were probably part of this crowd and tuned in too. So, after the whole PS Network shindig, Gamespot thought it would be interesting to hear what Xbox Live's group marketing manager Aaron Greenberg had to say about Sony's PlayStation Network and its features.

The interview also touches on what Greenberg thinks this could mean for Xbox Live, now that Sony's PlayStation Network looks like it's shaping up to be a really worthy adversary of Microsoft's XBL. First, Gamespot asked Greenberg what his impressions were of Sony's online initiative, and here's the console-wars-inducing reply: "We're proud that we've created a smash hit service that has prevailed over four years by growing to 4 million members during that time. And we're flattered that we've created a service that is breeding yet another knockoff."

Tsk tsk tsk. But before fanboys start swarming our site, Greenberg pulls back a bit by saying that it's still too early to comment on what the PS Network has to offer because there are still a lot of questions left unanswered like (and we quote): "Is this a fully connected service with one identity across your entire gameplay experience? Is every game online with voice chat integration? Do they have Achievements and Gamerscore? How are they handling safety, security, hacking, viruses, and parental controls?"

In addition, Greenberg said that they welcome competition but at this point, they're sure that XBL will continue to thrive and the fact that they have a four-year AND four-million member subscription headstart keeps them confident in the continuing success of XBL. Gamespot also fished for info on the fall update, whether there are plans for a bigger hard drive, as well as backward-compatibility updates for XBL.

Oh, and here's another kicker, when asked how Microsoft will justify charging their users for games when the PlayStation Network will offer FREE downloads, here's what Greenberg had to say: "There is so much more for gamers to experience on Xbox Live and so little new news in Sony's online announcements. Heck, do they have exclusive titles that can compete with Halo 3, Gears of War, Geometry Wars, Next Splinter Cell, Halo Wars, and exclusive episodic content for Grand Theft Auto IV that you won't be playing on the PS3?"

Also, Gamespot prods Greenberg on whether there are plans for integrating Web browsing functionality into XBL since the PlayStation Network will have this and Nintendo seems to be moving in the same direction with the Wii. The interview tackles a whole lot more, so if you're interested in reading all about it (as we know you guys are), simply click on the read link below to see the full interview. We'll keep you posted for more.



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# Hmmnightshade15 2006-10-21 09:59
I wont be using the internet browser for it.

No need, I got this computer that I am typing on.

Plus: Just another way to destroy a computer based product:

Internet browsing.

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# gta4 content bad arguement.Guest 2006-10-21 10:00
ps3 does have the new content for gta4 its already been anounced.

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# asdfdGuest 2006-10-21 10:15
lol I wonder which network will lag less! Thats the only question I really care about!



Cool about the browser, now I dont have to go into my room to use the computer it will be in the living room with me, also showing youtube videos to friends just got a whole lot easier.



Also viewing his lovely site just got easier. :)

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# LOLGuest 2006-10-21 10:16
There is so much more for gamers to experience on Xbox Live and so little new news in Sony's online announcements. Heck, do they have exclusive titles that can compete with Halo 3, Gears of War, Geometry Wars, Next Splinter Cell, Halo Wars, and exclusive episodic content for Grand Theft Auto IV that you won't be playing on the PS3?"



LOL that list sucks ass. Two halo spinoffs, another FPS title, and Geometry wars? lol?

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# translationPlanet 2006-10-21 10:26
"We don't suck! They do! I promise!!!" :D

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# no it hasnt.Guest 2006-10-21 10:33
officially no, rumour wise. yes. It hasnt been officially announced that the content will be available to ps3 users. read all the articles that arent on ps3 sites.

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# not coolGuest 2006-10-21 10:49
I'm joining up with the xbox 360 and PS3 club right now and i dont think its cool to have that fat ass talk ***** about other systems online service. So what if its a knock off stop wasting time on them and spend more time on your own system. We should all bash nintendo for having no online stuff(exept web browser). It will be gamecube all over again

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# did they forget how microsoft was formed?Guest 2006-10-21 11:02
microsoft was formed by stealing software and shutting down companies so they would be the only OS. People in glass houses should stop being so *****ing stupid.

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# hahahaGuest 2006-10-21 11:03
sony didn't mention that they were late and alot of 3rd party games won't go online even if thier xbox counterpart can.



psp has been online for years,and it stinks.

nintendo has the biggest market with the DS since not only is it free but it was the fastest growing compared to xbox live on both the original and 360 service.





playstation 2 stunk online, the psp stunk,so i'm sure the 3rd time is the charm.

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# you are so funnyGuest 2006-10-21 12:03
hahahaha FuuUUuck You

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# yes it hasGuest 2006-10-21 12:23
nothing has been officially confirmed 4 either console and the 360 has lost two huge exclusives ninja gaiden and oblivion

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# who caresGuest 2006-10-21 12:30
who cares what this fat ***** has to say, PS3 is about to eliminate him and his services

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# O RLYGuest 2006-10-21 12:55
So what would they do, NOT have similar features to XBL? you think they wouldn´t get more flak for not having voip, achievements, downloads etc, a bit naive

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# ps3 owner =member of online serviceGuest 2006-10-21 13:19
this guy is pulling stuff outta his ass dude the ps3 online is gonna dominate xbl in the members department just because when you buy a ps3 you automatically are a member just make a name that that 4 million players over 4 years is nothing because in one day ps3 is gonna get 500000 members and in 6 months im sure its gonna have over 4million members

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# LOLGuest 2006-10-21 13:47
Dude said,



"Is this a fully connected service with one identity across your entire gameplay experience? Is every game online with voice chat integration? Do they have Achievements and Gamerscore? How are they handling safety, security, hacking, viruses, and parental controls?"



Hell they cannot even get thier operating system right.....

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# ......Guest 2006-10-21 14:10
so can the ps3 be hacked considering its like a home desktop pc with online capabilities?

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# LOLZGuest 2006-10-21 15:58
Sounds like the fatass is in denial

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# XBOX LIVE VS PS3... PS3 Online??Guest 2006-10-21 16:30
I don't know why you are bashing the 360 because it's from Microsoft and because they "can't get their operating system right" or "stealing software and shutting down companies so they would be the only OS". The 360 is part of the gaming department. So I can say, "Oh Sony produces exploding batteries! The PS3 is going to blow up too!!".



The fact is, XBOX LIVE is currently dominating. You can accept it or not. When the PS3 network is INTRODUCED thats when you can actally talk. Right now you have nothing to go by. Like all other Sony promises- who knows if it'll end up being scraped.

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# sounds like...Guest 2006-10-21 17:54
damage control to me.



As for the knockoff comment, I had forgotten how MS had invented online gaming... although I will admit LIVE is pretty good.



And I guess Gear of War online 8 vs 8 (or is it 4v4?)is suppossed to be good compared to Resistance 20 vs 20... riiiiiiiiiiiiig ht.



FREE and good works for me Sony, do your thang.

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# above says it all lmfaoGuest 2006-10-21 18:24
so true, halo is over deal with it 2nd one ruined whatever chance they had at being the best series ever (meaning 1 wasnt too good to begin with) splinter cell isnt exclusive btw

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# ^^^Guest 2006-10-21 18:26
your stupid lol get your facts straight ds has like a whopping 2 games that are online, and what sucks about psp or ps2 online hmmmm......nothing ive noticed open ended online structure wow definetly horrible 0.-

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# obviously more experiencedGuest 2006-10-21 18:30
sony has the man power to overpower any entertainment addon m$ adds (aka m$ actually making their "hddvd addon" that makes the system $100 more than a ps3 which has superior video quality) lmfao

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# booGuest 2006-10-21 18:32
booo get a job, you suck at talking

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# Pot calling the Kettle BlackAnnony 2006-10-21 18:33
A branch of Microsoft is crying: "They ripped us off!"???

Soooo... this is a different company that ISN'T the one that is trying to make Vista look and feel like MacOS X? Or maybe it's the company that is NOT making Internet Explorer 7 with 'all the tabs and toys' of Mozilla's Firefox?



More 'game specifically': Has anyone overlapped the button layout for the PS2 controller, and the X360 controller? *gasp!* SHOCKING!!! Even better yet, now they're offering an HD-DVD movie 'addon' to their console after b1tching about it being 'not needed'.



Ladies and Gentlemen, the Pot is indeed calling the Kettle black- er... 'Cast-Iron American'. HA!

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# um yes it hasGuest 2006-10-21 20:32
Rockstar officially announced The content was 360 exclusive.

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# actuallyGuest 2006-10-21 20:39
What sucked about sony's online service is the game devs must buy and maintain there own servers to keep the game up and running on the ps3. On 360 they just have to develop the online interface and be over with it. This is bad for ps3, because it means lower amounts of players on online games, "lag", you must go into the game to download new content, and there is no unified gamer score or achievements such as the system used for xbox live. The reason you cant make arguments other than these ones about the ps3 network is not out yet and is not (finished copying live) complete.

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# prove itGuest 2006-10-22 02:06
prove it, and if you can't then, haha

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# yeaGuest 2006-10-22 02:10
preach on man, preach on

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# (>_Guest 2006-10-22 02:13
Actually they've already said the next splintercell was 360 exclusive and Gears of war isnt an FPS. Also the fact that halo 3 and halo wars are "spin-offs" to halo that most certainly isnt a bad thing.

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# HD-DVDGuest 2006-10-22 02:14
The HD-DVD add on is not needed for games, games, games, games, games, got it now.

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# Gears of WarGuest 2006-10-22 02:17
Gears of war is still the better game even with less players. LOL

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# You Have Much To LearnGuest 2006-10-22 02:20
More players doesnt mean better gameplay

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# GamespyVietone 2006-10-22 02:54
As far as its been said Gamespy is the largest online network. Xbox Live is a complete knockoff of gamespy. Everything you could possibly do on Xbox live, gamespy had first.



Unified Online Idenity.

Gamespy



Stat Tracking

Gamespy



Download/Streaming Content

Gamespy



Client Servers have been around since games were plyable over a network and the technology is over a decade old.



The only thing unique to Xbox Live is Achievements.



Also as far as Sony and Gamespy are concerned, it was said they were working together for the PS3 online network.



Meaning Developers wont have to maintain their own servers because Gamespy would be able to create and maintain it for them.



Dont underestimate free services from gamespy. They make more profit then Xbox live from the people they charge "nothing" to because all you have to deal with is little advertisements.



So saying that the PS3 Online Network is a knock off of Xbox live is such a Microsoft way of trying to make it seem they were first.



Xbox Live gets less then 1/10th the traffic the Gamespy network gets. They dont even come close to how much is downloaded off Fileplanet in a single day. Since Gamespy merged with IGN, they will continue to be the largest online network in existence.



Its funny for a major PC software company to exclude the PC out of every claim they make for the Xbox360.



Talk about knock offs, they only offer 1080p support because the PS3 does. They will only offer Browser Support because the PS3 does.



Gears of war is still the better game even with less players. LOL



Claim cant be made since neither game is in the hands of gamers. With more players, your allowed to make the game faster pace, and more wide open maps for more options.



With less players you have to limit the size of your map or else people will get bored.



You have to limit the amount of complexity in your gametypes or else it will take too long to get multiple objectives dont to win the round.



take Battlefield 2142 for example. In order to take down whatever those huge ships are called, you must first capture several key attack points on the map. Then you must attack the ship directly. If the game ever came out on the Xbox360 or PS3 with fewer then 32 player capabilities, the maps would have to be make smaller because on the PC, even with 32 players in one server, the game doesnt progress as fast as you may think, you need at least 40 people in one server to be able to have the ability to capture and hold key positions on the map and have enough people left to make strikes against the points the enemy has control over.



CoD2 for the Xbox360 is a horrible counterpart to the PC version. the maps are a fraction of the size thats available on the PC version because of the fact that theres less people that can play at one time.



You wanna talk splinter cell then consider this. Double Agent is a piss poor example of a Splinter Cell game. It looks no better in terms of graphics from Chaos Theory and from the Videos it doesn't seem to offer any extra gameplay elements. So it is very undeserving to call this game next-gen. MGS4 blows Double Agent away in every category.

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# Finally some oneGuest 2006-10-22 05:28
caught M$ ripping the whole Live thing off. Good post to the dude above!!!

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# yeahGuest 2006-10-22 05:32
graphically cell is better that theory on 360 play it on i def and youll know.

Ms will dminate online i think cos its there thing and its a household thing for 360 owners,however ps3 is gonna make more money so theyll win the war.

Im a ms fanboy but im not slating anything ps3 related until iv played it...

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# ^^snoopGuest 2006-10-22 07:07
PS3 won't win because they will make more money, M$ is rich as ****. They can do anything they want with their console.

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# sigh not u again xboxGuest 2006-10-22 16:03
"Gears of war is still the better game even with less players."



There's a fanboy statement if I ever heard one...



some guy

More players doesnt mean better gameplay



Indeed. But I fail to see how 4v4 is something to brag about. Can you? Keep in mind that RFOM 20v20 is the maximum, you can go lower.

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# ???Guest 2006-10-22 16:30
Achievements and Gamerscore?



People actually care about those? I thought they had no purpose whatsoever?



LIVE is a great platform, but if SOny gets even close to it and its free, then we'll see a free version of LIVE in 2 years, my prediction.



And there's what? 3 million LIVE 360 owners? Sony we'll catch up it that area in no time.

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# doesn't matterGuest 2006-10-22 16:33
No comany likes to lose money, regardless of much they have.



The xbox cost them money, thye hope to make money this gen. If, by some chance the 360 was a huge failure, they would definitely hesistate to blow more money.



But you are right, they can afford to screw up many more times.

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