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Word War Nth: Sony tells MS that "PS Network is groundbreaking"

Posted Jan 11, 2007 at 7:00AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Wii, Xbox 360 Tags: Chris Satchell, playstation 3 updates, PlayStation Network, SCEA, Sony
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word warYesterday we reported how MS head honchos Michael Moore and Chris Satchell ganged up on Sony calling its Playstation Network a "disaster" and claiming the company itself does not have the talent to kill Xbox Live. Now it's time for Sony to give back some lip.

In response to MS, SCEA senior director of corporate communications Dave Karraker says the PlayStation Network is far from being  the video game industry's Titanic. In an interview with GamePro, Karraker said "I would argue that consumers worldwide, to the tune of over 200 million PlayStations, PS2s, PSPs and PS3s, have decided whether or not Sony has the DNA to deliver hardware, software, and services to suit this industry."

Using Gran Turismo HD as an example, Karraker said "it points to the potential of the PlayStation Network and the kind of groundbreaking content we plan to offer."



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# Mainly PS2'sCSFFlame 2007-01-11 08:11
Also, considering Sony's history with differences between what they say and what they do.



I'll wait till I see it.

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# 2ndGuest 2007-01-11 08:36
ms just got pwned!!!

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# UmGuest 2007-01-11 08:43
Not really. All they did was defend themselves.

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# hahaGuest 2007-01-11 08:53
this is so funny ...these azzholes there online cant touch live yet and may never ...we are talking now and they got nothing for online with the ps3 .and ms should just shut the h3ll up just do your jobs make the systems right and keep makeing them better .as of right now the 2 of them are the same but x box has a year and a more solid onling and way more games .ps3 has history and rabid fans they have a lot to do .as of right now to walk into a store and you have the choice of all 3 systems the best deals are the 360 the wii then the ps3 in a year who knows .her in canada you can get all the thingsthat the ps3 has (hd-dvd and the wifi ) plus 3 games 2 pack ins and free gears or rainbow and a controler for the same price as a ps3 and one game .and the wii is dirt cheep all around .as far as online goes live kills ps3 and wii at this point even if you are paying for it .

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# lolGuest 2007-01-11 09:23
It's funny how these companies go at it like 5 year olds

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# They didn't say it was groundbreakingGuest 2007-01-11 09:45
Sony never said that it was groundbreaking, it's not as good as Xbox Live and they know that but nevertheless they defended it with the usual PR fare: "the content which we provide is groundbreaking"



Everyone does it, there's no need to take Sony's words out of context and certianly don't completely misquote them with "PS Network is groundbreaking" You know perfectly well they never said that.

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# groundbreaking?Guest 2007-01-11 10:03
what's so groundbreaking about demo's and trailers? i think if anything is groundbreaking it's live, being that it, well, you know, broke the ground so to speak in the console online arena. oh, and digital video distribution. then theres the whole achievement thing noone thought would take off like it did. so... um.. yeah, nice try.



seriously though, read those statements. just like every other one. whenever anyone brings up sony's problems this gen (of which there are many to choose from) their only reply is "well look what we did the last few times". it's starting to remind me of those guys at the bar who are 40, live with their mom, and can't get over that touchdown the scored at the state championship in high school. they're living in the past, and this industry is all about the here and now. then, i guess they're limited as to what their argument *could* be, since microsoft really wasnt lying to begin with.



they need to quit with the "look, we dominated before" and start talking about how theyre gonna turn it around and do it again. i for one think they dont have a plan. if so we wouldve heard about it.

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# online?...Guest 2007-01-11 10:08
Is online really taht great?

PS2 didnt have online...it sold 112 million consoles....



Online isnt the main factor to a console. People have been playing games offline since the beginning of gaming.

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# yaGuest 2007-01-11 10:18
M$ shuld just stfu it needs to cool down and no that there ego for them is bad all they can brag about is there Xbox livewhat else does this system have so just stfu like beef dnt be the one taking the shots or ull get shot Lil wayne (got his ass wuped his jaw got noked out !!!!) watta fa g

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# bragGuest 2007-01-11 10:58
they have lots to brag about even more than live .they give choice i like choise and a hell of a lot more next gen games .rumble and no drop outs ..and not only that cross platform titles run better on the box .and hell this is subjective but it looks so much better then that toster of a pc.i also like the extender wich for me blows anything the ps3 has even blue ray t got like a huge hard drive full of media and 2 x boxes that i can get all the media off of my computer and it streams butiful hd content over my network any place in my house the ps3 can surf the net .the 360 is soo smooth on the interface the ps3 is all clunky .i think the 360 for choice kills the ps3 one gametag for all games and i can talk to my friend when i am playing a game over live and he can play another dame and we can still talk and i do not have to leve my game sony is going to get owned if they are not allready

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# on the defenseGuest 2007-01-11 11:04
PS1 had no online whatsoever, PS2's was late and broken as hell with each developer required to run their own servers. The PS3's is marginally more organized than the PS2's was but still more of the same. Their defense is basically "we sold lots of consoles last 2 generations." Not the new system, the old ones. Not counting the people who switched to Microsoft since the hoard of PS3 disappointments over the last year. Excuses, excuses. That's all I hear from sony anymore.



With the sony network being free, any upgrades will be slow to come. If there is "upgrades" it will be in the form of them finding more stuff to sell you. Fanboys think that being free is great but where's the money to run it come from? Definately not out of sony's profit forecast that's for sure. Brace yourself for advertising out the ass!



That's why I get my PS1 games for PSP by ripping the old discs and converting the ISOs to PSP format. That's what they get for requiring you to buy a PS3 to download them. Idiots.

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# ummGuest 2007-01-11 11:18
An example of how people's vocabulary decreases with their intelligence, after video games unfortinately ...."pwned" haha

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# ^^^Guest 2007-01-11 11:22
How ignorant do you have to be not to recognize that pwned is a widely used word on the web?

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# Mr. Common Sense: Read this (if you want)milkman 2007-01-11 12:32
Sony did not foresee the fact that us homebrew users have 3.03 OE-B at our disposal. Don't go bashing Sony for every little detail. I own a ps3 and i have to say that it is a good investment. Xbox 360 has better games right now, we all know that first hand. My friend can't stop talking about lost planet (which is coming out on Friday!). I have always been with sony and I will stay with Sony because I trust them. I am not trying to defend the console in any way. The Playstation network is free and it provides the same basic setup as xbox live. I am only 16 and do not have access to a credit card as of now. Also, my parents seem to hate video games. They think I need rehab (don't all parents do that...). How can I approach them with a $50 dollar bill for xbox live every year. I plan to own the console for more than 4 years. You do the math...



I have read some of your comments in other stories Mr. Common Sense. You are VERY biased and seem to like the xbox a lot more, that is evident. Give sony a chance will ya, they know what their doing. This is exactly how the ps2 launch went, EXACTLY.



This is coming strictly from a fellow psp homebrew user: ps3 can support linux. I know it is limited, but there are many good uses for it. For example, VLC player comes in many forms on different operating systems, including fedora and Gentoo. All you have to do is install the player and you have access to hundreds of codecs for playing and watching your favorite movies. I don't own a DIVX DVD player, so this is just what I have been waiting for.



In conclusion, just because you clearly couldn't wait for the ps3 and bought a 360 instead, you shouldn't constantly try to make the ps3 seem inferior. I am not saying that xbox is better than playstation, or playstation is better than xbox. And don't think the price matters either. Microsoft gives you choices, but who really needs choices anyway. I would rather buy a guitar that has all the greatest pickups, humbuckers, and volume controls then a "build your own guitar kit" (alright bad example but you get the idea). All i'm saying is, don't be hatin!

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# did you read the words below the title?Guest 2007-01-11 12:55
Did you read beyond the misleading title?

Sony didn't call their service groundbreaking. They said that it has the potential to provide groundbreaking content. Whether or not GT-HD is groundbreaking content, that's debatable, but your comment completely misses the point.

And comparing Sony to that 40 year old guy in the bar who scored the winning TD in a high school state championship is a bit weak, isn't it? Really, if you are going to make a comparison, shouldn't it be more like comparing Sony to some NFL dynasty that has won the last 10 Super Bowls in a row (most in convincing fashion), and now on their 11th season aren't in first place after the first few games of the season. I think track records do matter, especially when you're only two months into the season.

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# we'll see in a year or less...Guest 2007-01-11 12:56
who has the better stuff, I'm just glad I can play online for free on PS3, xbox ppl have to pay a monthly fee. To be able to play games online is all what matters, if it's free it's a BIG+ !

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# Come on now :)Guest 2007-01-11 14:20
"How can I approach them with a $50 dollar bill for xbox live every year. I plan to own the console for more than 4 years. You do the math..."



But how many games do you expect to buy per year? You do the maths. XBL costs one game per year, compared to the average number of games most gamers purchase per year, it's nothing for what you're getting imo.



Also, why should you need to approach your parents to pay for a service like XBL for the next 4 years or more? I know you're 16, but are your parents going to be paying until you're 20+? Don't you want to find work before then, even if it's part time. Whose going to pay for the games?



I know you're young, your loyalties are towards Sony and you're trying to be honest, but I would happily pay $50 per year for an online service like XBL on my PS3 :) .... when I finally get one this spring that is (I'm in the UK).

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# You need to go back to school!Guest 2007-01-11 14:29
the 20 GB ps3 is $550 ( all prices in canadian and using canadian market prices) while the 20 GB 360 is $500. for the 360 to have HD DVD it is $200 therefore its ALREADY more expensive than the PS3. Dont try to pull this BS! if you dont want an HDD (really stupid because its needed for backwards compatability and XB-L) and no HD DVD then xbox is cheaper. If you want a next gen DVD player and a HDD then PS3 is cheaper (note this is the 20GB.)

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# sony is running a lose-lose battleGuest 2007-01-11 14:41
heres the scenario:



IF....

Sony has features on their Network Platform such as downloadable content, movies, online play, etc....



THEN

MS says "ahh, they copied us."



OR



IF....

Sony does these features in a different way...



THEN

MS says "well, we do it this way (more established, blah blah, etc, etc) and thats why Sony cant beat us"



EITHER WAY....

Sony loses



something to ponder about.



ways to solve this:

BOTH Sony AND MS need to STFU



some notes on me:

-i have a 360 and play gears and doa4, both online

-i dont have a ps3

-i play my ps2 still (more frequently than my 360)

-im a hypocrite (in that i try to defend sony even though i have a 360 and support it almost as much as the ps2 and soon to be ps3)

-in other words, a sony fanboy that has a 360 but doesnt think it is as mighty as alot of xbots say, yet doesnt think other sony fanboys should say the ps3 is the ***** right now either.

-i guess you could say im the biggest target for bashing, even though i believe my points are correct, and any smart person should think before they reply to me, thanks

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# no YOU need to go back to school!Guest 2007-01-11 15:14
ok the 360 with 3 ghost recon and arcade with (bonus game gears of war) games and the hd and wifi is 799 so it is 800 bucks ..



the ps3 60 gig ver and one game with hd cable is 758 bucks so 760 bucks



and that is if you walked in and walked out better deal goes to the 360 and you get to choooooose what you want not like the ps3 you are stuck with it the 360 as of now is proven even if you took away 2 of the games the price would be about the same and the 360 would still win it has the most next gen games at this moment and they have crushed alot of the bugs and added funtionality to it .and hell lets face it if i do not want the hd-dvd drive right now i do not get it and i get another controller and the recharge kit hall and another game or get a few games the are used for 25 bucks a pop . the ps3 is not a DEAL and to have unproven tech that might not take you just wasted 200 on the thing for the blue ray drive you cant take out and at this time drive size of the hdd is nothing because if you have a computer you can store all your stuff you want on the mane server so that means i got like 2 tera of space and i can use it for more than gamming wow who would of thunk .winner 360

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# PSN has more options then Xbox LiveVietone 2007-01-11 15:55
Xbox Live is built from the ground up to be proprietary for Microsoft.



PSN is designed with an almost all open kind of network. So the message is, For PSN you can do anything you want to.



For Xbox Live, its you can do things as long as they fall within these specifications. If you dont do it this way, then you cant do it.



In the end, PSN has a chance to beating Xbox live in every single category, since PSN is already better for playing games online with 40-player lag-free matches, all they need to do is work out their software on the PS3 itself and make PSN larger.

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# no drop outsGuest 2007-01-11 16:23
Bull. When I got GoW, I couldn't even get into a freaking game. XBL has the same issue with dropouts you claim PS3 has. At least I got to play Resistance online

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# It's the little things...Shatterdome 2007-01-11 18:25
Like when you download a demo of their "arcade" games, and want to purchase you have to redownload it, then install it, and delete the demo....



I also havn't seen anywhere you can compare which games people have, and the progress on those games...



Just a few...



Sony tried to defend a diss on their software, by quoting HARDWARE sales...so they are still burned in my books....Sony has absolutely NO good software. Their video converters for psp, and AC3 music converters blow nuts hard....I think MS with the amount of experience they have in the software field deserve to gloat a little. Hell, we know Sony acts like they are King Sh*t all the time...



As far as xbox live is concerned....get a paper route for 2 weeks, or ask for it for xmas every year....or collect 13.69 cents a day to pay for it.... (5000 / 365).

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# NopeGuest 2007-01-12 01:04
"since PSN is already better for playing games online with 40-player lag-free matches"



XBL gamer were playing 50 player online lag-free last gen on the XBox, because of dedicated servers for BlackHawk Down (even though the game was average).



Developers can setup dedicated servers on XBL too, just as some did last gen. More would have been nice, but in the end, it's up to the developer. So this gen, expect 40 player or more lag-free online games sometime in the near future on the 360.



For EA games, XBL gamers connect onto EA's online system, so the online gameplay and performance is EXACTLY the same for both 360 and PS3 gamers for EA games. And if EA can do it, so can others.



It's easy to speculate, so come back WHEN PSN is beating XBL in every category, but I doubt this will happen, at least not this gen anyway.

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# HUH?!Guest 2007-01-12 02:12
WTF ru talking about....?... Why r u comparing "60gig" ps3 with "20 gig" 360 ?.....

The 360 with gost recon is $499 +$200 for HD addon so that comes to $700...so one game.



not let

s see the ps3



ps3....$550 +one game 60.....so $610...



so u save 90 dollars on ps3...PLUS u get Blu ray for GAMING...NOTE...HD DVD addone is ONLY for movies....so STFU..noob

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# Dee dee deeGuest 2007-01-12 04:49
Wow you artards are real special.



premium 360 = $399 (guess what dumbazz i dont have to buy the HD-DVD addon! or Ghost Recon) lets say i buy Gears of War, and extra wireless controller, Call of Duty 2, 1600 microsoft points, and wireless internet addon...all this would = $677.34!!!! OMG see that that is what happens when you shop with a brain!!



One PS3 ($599, get it right) and one game($60) = $698.54!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Oh my god!!! if you had a brain you would have gotten that too, if you werent such a Biased azzhole.



Basically you can get a lot more on the 360 than you can on the 360. I got all this becuase i didnt buy the addon b i t c h!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! !!!!!!!! Suck my ballz you retard!!!!!!!

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# i am a noob and i love itGuest 2007-01-12 04:51
i am looking at the 2 top scews and blue ray for games ok whatever it is not the media .and if you want to look at it just to play games ou of the box in hd it cost 500 bucks for the 360 with 2 games and it is hd ready out of the box ..ps3 ...660 and it has no hd cable or game ...as far as the hard drive goes what good is it for all media for the x box would be on your pc streamed to the x box so 20 gigs at this time is more then enough.to to gig and 60 gig drive argument is a joke with this ability . so lets see to get the two top ones the 360 with 2 games and hdcables out of the box is $500 bucks the ps3 top one is 660 and it is not even hd and you get no games that is 160 bucks more now lets get 2 games for the ps3 just so you can play hmm 120 bucks there that is what 280 bucks more now lets get it up to hd need a cable 40 bucks so that is what lets see 320 buck more . just to play games like the x box.so to play games in hd out of the box for the 2 of them it is 500 for the 360 top scu and it is 980 for the ps3 mmmm .now i will brin the 360 up to snuff with the ps3 lets see what do i need .oh the hd-dvd drive 200 and the wifi noew i could go with the 360 brand or get another brand but i will go fo the 360 one for 130 . so lets see 3 330 more oh i need the recharge kit another 30 so 360 .now lets add this together 500 + 330 is what 830 . so for the 2 of them to play hd movies and play all games in hd with 2 games ps3 is 980 bucks now the 360 is 830 ...now i know wha you will say but poo poo you are looking at the 20 gig 360 and the 60 gig ps3 and ps3 uses blue ray for games. and i say what are you going to use the 60 gig hard drive for to store stuff on ok what ?..... music and pics and videos you cant do that with the 360 on a 20 gig drive ...well you would be wrong i can and have over 500 gigs of songs music and pics all on my computer and they stream no prob.. but you will say you are stupid you need a computer for that . and i say if you just spent close to 1000 buck on a ps3 and you have nocomputer in your house you are nuts .and with the 150 bucks i save i can go get more games because there are more games or hell i can get live for 3 years or i can go blow it on boooze and ladys . i am a nood and i should shut up because people do not like the reality of things and they get mad and might hurt me on the net .

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# Dee dee deeGuest 2007-01-12 04:52
Wow you artards are real special.



premium 360 = $399 (guess what dumbazz i dont have to buy the HD-DVD addon! or Ghost Recon) lets say i buy Gears of War, and extra wireless controller, Call of Duty 2, 1600 microsoft points, and wireless internet addon...all this would = $677.34!!!! OMG see that that is what happens when you shop with a brain!!



One PS3 ($599, get it right) and one game($60) = $698.54!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!! Oh my god!!! if you had a brain you would have gotten that too, if you werent such a Biased azzhole.



Basically you can get a lot more on the 360 than you can get on the PS3. I got all this becuase i didnt buy the addon b i t c h!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! !!!!!!!! Suck my ballz you retard!!!!!!!



Oh and if you wondering why Sony's Console is soo expensive ITS BECAUSE OF TAXES YOU DUMB B ITCH!!!!!!!!!!1

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# sorryGuest 2007-01-12 05:15
my post is hard to read need spaces and well spell chek.but my point is the better deal if you look at it is the 360 at this point . they are two good systems.and really they both look the same ont the hdtv.i just feel ms is giving a way better deal by far .



ms will do anything to get the market share and they will they have the money to take big hits but they are also listing to the comunity of gaming .ms is a software company and sony is a hardware company ..once the hardware is out it is all software so sony needs to get their act together .980 bucks is alot to spend on unproven tech and thet is for the ps3 2 games and hdcable ...here in canada .and 500 bucks for the 360 with 2 games ...now this is just for playing games and i can still watch movies on it and they are all up converted too.

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# HahahhaGuest 2007-01-16 07:32
I love when morons like vietone make comments like this. It just shows there truw fantard colors. And i love the resistance multiplayer vs xboxlive mp. If you would have done some more research, you would find that resistance developers are actually floating the bill to host deticated servers. This is an attempt to compete with XBL, nothing more. Wait till developers stop floating the bill for deticated servers.

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