Quick Jump Daily Digest

Thank you for your interest in the Quick Jump Daily Digest. Get notified of all new content on QJ in our free Daily Digest. To subscribe, enter your email address below and click the subscribe button.


Email Address:


Email will come from "donotreply@caputomedia.com". Please whitelist this email address.

Cancel and Return to page

Valve says 'PS3's online is kind of scary'; no online play yet for Team Fortress 2

Posted Mar 29, 2007 at 9:03PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360, PC Gaming Tags: Electronic Arts, Game Informer, Microsoft, playstation 3 updates, Sony, Steam
Ó

Tapping into the powerful Half-Life 2 engine but bringing back the original class-based team gameplay that kept us clicking the Activate Mod button, Team Fortress 2 is set to arrive on the ever faithful PC, and next-gen consoles PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360. Whether or not interconnectivity is viable for the Phong-shaded game, only time will tell.

Team Fortress 2 for the PS3, Xbox360 and PC from Valve SOftware - Image 1 


Unfortunately, this little snippet from Game Informer's interview of Valve Software's Doug Lombardi, Charlie Brown (no relation to you-know-who) and Robin Walker, doesn't really brighten up that possibility at all. According to Valve's Marketing Director Lombardi, the PlayStation 3's online development is...well, iffy. They're completely confident of their development abilities for the PC, so-so for the Xbox 360, but for the PlayStation 3:

PS3 is brand new and PS3Â’s online is kind of scary so weÂ’re hoping that EA is going to be a strong partner for us. ItÂ’s always the scariest thing when itÂ’s not all yours. With the PC itÂ’s all ours, Steam is all ours, codeÂ’s ours, gameÂ’s ours. On 360 weÂ’re making it, weÂ’ve made it before, we know what the Live thing is, although itÂ’s MicrosoftÂ’s so we kind of know it. PS3 weÂ’re not building it, we havenÂ’t made a PS3 title before, and we donÂ’t really know what PS3 online really is. ItÂ’s always the devil you donÂ’t know that youÂ’re the most scared of.


So does that mean interconnectivity's guaranteed for the Xbox 360 and PC for now? We're sort of skeptical over the whole idea, since Xbox Live for Windows is a paid service and FPS-heads would rather play over (relatively free) 100 Mbps LAN than draw in spike-laggers to a Net game. And besides, PlayStation 3's open network is readily accessible by the PC, just as the PlayStation 3 can access the Net through a built-in browser.

Thanks to publishing giant Electronic Arts, however, Team Fortress 2 is still coming to Sony's console, and it's still a hope that EA can strike a compromise to enter the multiplayer realm of the PC. Team Fortress 2 vets, after all, need some fresh meat for the grinder...if you catch our meaning. The more, the merrier!

Via Game Informer



This story sucks? This story rocks!
Vote Now!    This story ROCKS! (0) This story SUCKS!! (0)




Become a Member of QJ.Net!

If you want your comments to go live without waiting for moderation, you need to be logged in. Being logged in has its benefits:
  • Logged in members do not wait for their comments to be approved.
  • Logged in members can sign up for nightly updates.
  • Logged in members can create Profiles to be seen by other users.
So why wait? Create an account or login now! It's easy, quick, and free.

To get started, use the LOGIN boxes, or the REGISTER link at the top right!

Comments 


 
# OnlineOraichu 2007-03-29 22:21
Just make the ***** online... all PS3 games will suck if the developers run away with their tales between their legs and don't even TRY to make online play...

Reply
 

 
# .Guest 2007-03-29 22:55
pathetic in my opinion

Reply
 

 
# PS3 online is failingGuest 2007-03-29 23:29
Sounds like the PS3 is stuck in a hole unless a charge is made I cant see how they can improve it.



You pay for the 360 service so it pays for you to make sure you have a good connection, on the PS3 no one cares if their connection is up to scratch or not as they have nothing to lose Except lag..

Reply
 

 
# valve is SO LAZY!hush404 2007-03-30 00:26
OMG. Every article I read dealing with valve they've got something to whine & b!tch about. Seriously, face it, you have to get your fat asses away from the mindset of PC only gaming and expand your f'n dev skills. All they know is dev on the PC and even then they take forever to do ANYTHING with that platform. While, HL2 not a slump of a game, it sure takes them a hell of a long time to make such products, I doubt their ability.

Reply
 

 
# Play like Resistance!Guest 2007-03-30 02:13
So, Valve should take a lesson from the guys at Insomniac Games. Resistance has huge maps, and supports up to 32 players at one time, with gameplay being very smooth. If they can do it, Valve should be able to.



On a side note, everything I have read from Doug Lombardi has been very negative when it comes to the PS3. What's up with that?

Reply
 

 
# ...Vietone 2007-03-30 02:21
LoL you are totally wrong. You dont pay for anything except the ability to connect to other people.



Like every single FPS Xbox Live game before it, HL2, TF2, Portal for the Xbox360 will use listenservers, meaning someone is hosting the game and everyone else joins, this is the reason why Xbox Live is laggy.



PSN uses dedicated servers and provides a lag free experience if you have broadband. While Xbox Live can be laggy even if your on a T3 connection.



As far as it is, Xbox Live has yet to provide an experience better then RFoM with its 40-player cinsistant lag free online.

Reply
 

 
# my two centsGuest 2007-03-30 03:11
Vietone: "As far as it is, Xbox Live has yet to provide an experience better then RFoM with its 40-player cinsistant lag free online."



I'll admit that Sony posses some of the most powerful servers available (they hold the massive Everquest series). But not all the devolopers has that kind of electronics, or are willing to share theirs for free, because Sony with i'ts strategy is asking the developers that they host in their servers the online games, for FREE! That is the main problem, no developer is going to host games for free in their servers. That's the main reason that you only see games with online capability that are made under the Sony umbrella. Even games that are the same for both systems, only difference they are Live enable, and¸Zero online for the PS3.

Reply
 

 
# PS3 has online issues no doubtGuest 2007-03-30 03:12
I have a very good connection and I play PS3 Resistance and a lot of time it lags like hell, I also have a 360 and play Gears and I get no lag so what are you talking about?, its obvious the PS3 is having online issues as this is just the latest(the last being tennis) game where it looks like there will be no online option for the PS3 only.

Reply
 

 
# Low PS3 sales could be the problemGuest 2007-03-30 03:15
Could be the low PS3 sales are putting them off specially developing it for such a small market.

Reply
 

 
# well nowGuest 2007-03-30 03:21
live a great idea is it the best no it is not but it gives all game companies a chance to get on line the infrastructure is there just make your game around it most of the work is done for you. where as the ps3 dose not have a standard .Insomniac could do it because they have the backing of Sony they put a lot of eggs in that basket .valve is not backed by anyone but there self so they will be using the live service and they do not have to put the funds to it and it will work and work well ...will it work the best no ?i cant say.sony does not have anything there they let the dev decide that online is good for there game and if they can put the funds toward it .



like all companies they are there to maximize there profit spend 1 mill getting it going and running well on the ps3 or put the effort in the online with ms and it will take less time and cost 250 thousand . as a company i would go for the 360 . and if you think of it ms and the people flip the bill it takes time and money to do this stuff it is not magical . ms did it right and Sony did not for online ya it is free but you get what you pay for maybe 10 games worth playing online for the ps3 if that in its lifetime ,so far 1 .and ms at this point because they tought about what they wanted have 10 imo. and single played you can talk to you friends while you play too so another bonus that devs do not have to code in :).

Reply
 

 
# what!Guest 2007-03-30 06:38
the only scary thing about it is the no lag.

Reply
 

 
# What the big dealGuest 2007-03-30 07:05
If EA is handling the on-line then I'm not worried. They have been putting most of the xbox live features in ps2 games for years. The ea sports games I play have no problems. Besides EA won't mind spending the money for servers.

Reply
 

 
# Sounds like they aren't the sharpest knife in the drawer.Guest 2007-03-30 09:05
Boy, they AINT too bright. If they can't figure it out, and other companies have, like RFOM devs(40Player Lag Free), tells me they are pretty stupid. Sounds like a bunch of hacks work for them. And who was that big fat moron, that said, Sony ought dumped PS3 and start over? Wasn't he from Valve>

Reply
 

 
# Looks like it's PS2 online all over again...Shatterdome 2007-03-30 09:06
Which is to say pretty much only first party games will support online play.....



Wow, that free online play is pretty kick ass, so free you don't even get it !



Nice...

Reply
 

 
# selling my PS3Guest 2007-03-30 09:11
Well thats it for me, im selling my PS3 and getting the 360 Elite,I dont care about others think, the Elite and Xboxlive looks to be the way to go.

Reply
 

 
# not trueGuest 2007-03-30 10:51
uiouio, I don't believe you. NOONE else has experienced lag on rfom. I don't believe you're the only one. That or you are sharing your connection.

Reply
 

 
# EA. hello.Guest 2007-03-30 10:54
ARe EA games first party, no. But their online was better than just about every sony game. At least think before you turn xboy on us.

Reply
 

 
# "PS3's Online is Kinda Scary"Guest 2007-03-30 11:07
*sigh* That gave me great lulz.

Reply
 

 
# same hereGuest 2007-03-30 11:36
I dont believe him either. Ive never had lag on Resistance or Motorstorm and cant say the same for Gears and Lost Planet. Sounds to me that Valve needs to do a little research or talk to Sony or other devs that seemed to have no problem whatsoever making an awesome online experience.

Reply
 

 
# smart..Guest 2007-03-30 11:43
Valve didnt say theyre not doing the online. Just that they never have so its kinda scary. But if you wanna pay to play online games that do lag from time to time thats entirely your decision. A bad one but still yours.

Reply
 

 
# *****gGuest 2007-03-30 13:37
QUOTE:



"PS3 we%u2019re not building it, we haven%u2019t made a PS3 title before, and we don%u2019t really know what PS3 online really is. It%u2019s always the devil you don%u2019t know that you%u2019re the most scared of."



*****

Reply
 

 
# HahaGuest 2007-03-30 15:39
That was Gabe Newell, the founder of Valve, who said that. Methinks he knows a bit more than you about all this, calling him a "big fat moron" just because you don't like it when someone disses your amazing PS3 is uncalled for.

Reply
 

 
# BNCJDBJGuest 2007-03-30 15:41
At least you get to actually PLAY some games through XBL

Reply
 

 
# PS3s biggest problem isGuest 2007-03-30 16:15
The games are being made by EA, and a group of coders with little experience with source and Valves code. The game could end up being released in a horribly buggy fashion.

I already code for Source and I know the code very well, it is already optimized for the Xbox with entire sections of the code re-written. In fact, we can compile all the content needed to make a mod for the Xbox version of the game atm. Valve just haven't given us the ability but if they do, we will be converting our mods for sure.



Anyway, have fun with your buggy Source games.

Reply
 

 
# yeah agreedxche78x 2007-03-30 21:24
they can just say they cant make it or they dont have the extra resources for online.

why say something weird when all others have already done it, hey valve there are games for ps3 that have online just so you know. ask them how to make one if you dont know how omfg.

Reply
 

 
# I have lag problems on my PS3Guest 2007-03-31 02:00
I have had lag in RFOM many times, I dont know why but I know I get it.

Reply
 

 
# WOWGuest 2007-03-31 02:03
I'm really digging this. Valve finally realizes what a mistake they made to make this game for PS3. And i also love how practically every post made in this topic is by a Sony Fanboy. You guys are always complaining about us bashing the PS3 like crazy in the PS3 section, when it is really you guys. Go play on your free online, i'll be on my 360 playing the Halo 3 beta and a bunch of other kick ass games. Oh- and by the way. My Bro-In-Law just got a ps3, he said he regretted every dollar he spent, and he got the 60 GB version. PS3 IS GOING DOWN AND WILL LOSE THIS WAR. Dont believe me? Go to the charts on nex gen wars.com and see for your self.

Reply
 

 
# Everybody take a ValiumGuest 2007-04-01 12:24
and RELAX already! Looking solely at the quote in the article, all that Valve is saying is: we haven't programmed for the PS3 before, so that's going to be more difficult for us than the ones that we HAVE programmed for. There's not a word in that quote that suggested that the PS3 version would not have online, or that its online would even be compromised in some way.



And while I don't question the honesty of those who have claimed to experience lag issues with online PS3 games, I personally have played a great deal of Resistance and Motorstorm online, and it's performed flawlessly, so the issues that people have had are nothing inherent in the system itself.

Reply
 

Add comment

Security code
Refresh


Welcome to QJ.Net!

If you want your comments to go live without waiting for moderation, you need to be logged in. Being logged in has its benefits:
  • Logged in members do not wait for their comments to be approved.
  • Logged in members can create Profiles to be seen by other users.
So why wait? Create an account or login now! It's easy, quick, and free.

To get started, use the LOGIN boxes, or the REGISTER link below!



Want to learn more about the team who brings you the QJ news?

Read about them now!


RSS Feeds Follow us on Twitter Find us on Facebook
Login:

HOT FLASH GAMES

Monster Truck Jumper

Left to Die

The Empire 2

Dark Dimension

Town Drift Competition

Heroes of the Sword