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The newest episode of GTTV shows, among many others, Valve's first time footage of one of the campaigns for Left 4 Dead 2, called the Fairgrounds. But what is PS3-related about it (although that footage is just as exciting) is Gabe Newell admitting to making no effort to make peace with the PS3.
Geoff Keighley asks: "Are you guys working on PlayStation 3 here now, trying to understand it, trying to get better at it?" To which Gabe Newell replied: "Uh, no. Not in any real way."
And with that, he didn't bother to expound on that simple sentence as well. Not in any real way.
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Valve is so up themselves, they think they run the market.
Sooner or later XBox and PC wont be apply to make them as much money as they curently do. And thats when to PS3 outsells the XBox, and then Valve will loose.
I just hate Valve.
I look forward to the day they say "Fu**, we should have learnt more about the PS3 in its easly days, the things people can do with that thing is amazing!"
Then we can all ***** in there face
Seriously, I'm counting the days till that fat cow (Gabe Newell) has a heart attack and we can see some GOOD games come out of that company.
Valve reminds me of that guy in football practice that can't keep up , so instead he cry's "coach i can't do it, i can't do it coach .
games like Hannah Montana and Leisure Suit Larry are made on a ps3 but the powerful developers at valve can't figure out ps3?
its because they are too damn stupid to ask for help. if they ask for the help. im sure people would gladly help them to learn the ps3. and another thing. i bet MS is paying them. not to work on the ps3. so, this is all i have to say about Gabe & Valve.
F*** YOU
this is why I love qj, I love their funny pictures. LMAO!!!!
Although I don't agree with the way him and his team of developers are handling the PS3, I do see where he's coming from. He did used to work for Microsoft, who helped him get where he is now. Also, more than likely, he owns a boat load of Microsoft stocks. So of course he's going to want to see MS flourish, because at the end of the year, he's gonna get a big ass check depending on just how well they do.
I mean, how can they ignore such a large install base where it has about 35million users in the United states? They are just being stupid, narrow minded and self centered.
Valve games are garbage, besides with games like MAG and LBP and Killzone on our side, I'd say Valve needs to step their game up. If it's so hard then nobody would develop for it.
on advertising they have a water "valve"
what movie is that picture from?
Ahh ok so all the developers except from Valve can be bothered to make games for PS3... That just proves one thing, Valve is run by stuck up biatches (Eg. Gabe... what kinda name is Gabe anyway?) who are too scared to try new things and want to run back into their little hiding hole.
Notice how Sony has LOYAL exclsuive developers and all Microsoft has is exclusive developers who go multiplatform as soon as the paychecks stop coming in...
Sonys exclsuive develoipers don't need massive paychecks to stay exclusive.
It's from "Hitch", a film featuring Will Smith and Kevin James, the star of King of Queens. You should see that movie, it's really funny.
Valve under their Steam program deliver pretty much every pc game ever made. Including old ones updated to run on newer machines. So no. Valve will never ever loose. Your hatred is nothing but fanboyism. And you're just jealous we have something you dont, and at Gabes rate wont ever have.
Valve, or Gabe Newell in particular, make soo many cryptic and contradictory statements. First they said PS3 was crap. Then Gabe said "Well the PS3 is starting to sell boxes now, so that's something we gotta look into and get involved with". Then they recently said "Hell yeah we want PS3 devs just like any other dev, we're actively recruiting". Now it's "nah lolol we're not rly doin anythang dawg"
Keep in mind that Valve's own fanbase aren't the least bit happy with them. I'll highlight the main points:
CS:S community has been in a fury since 2006 because Valve refuses to fix any of the major bugs that fans have made countless petitions to, despite the fact that the game still gets 90k-100k players daily. To add more fire to the flame, they released actual updates to CS 1. friggin 6 instead of Source. Also, CS:S community wants it to be updated to the Orange Box source engine to enable multi-core processing.
Day of Defeat: Source community is pissed at the severe lack of recognition and attention the game has gotten.
L4D1 vs. L4D2 communities - the whole expansion pack ideology and whatnot. L4D1 finally is getting new DLC yet it's one map and not what was exactly promised before (stuff like weapons, more campaigns, etc. are all being dumped into L4D2)
Half-Life 2 fans are pissed due to lack of news on Episode Three.
Portal fans want more cake and a game they can beat in an hour as opposed to 20 minutes, so they're pissed at lack of info on Portal 2.
Team Fortress 2 fans pissed at new weapon discovery system, and NarooN is still waiting on the seemingly non-existent Soldier updates.
So as you can see, with all that, and the fact that most Valve employees *do* read the message boards and emails they get, they know of all the hatred and what fans want. Gabe then asked "Which is more important, Portal 2 or Counter-Strike 2".
He said spam his inbox to get one on top priority. Keep in mind by CS2, he means the next actual Counter-Strike since Source is just an update of 1.6 on a new engine and whatnot.
Valve are in a tight spot and don't even know what they wanna do. They're really just focusing on TF2 updates and L4D2. After L4D2 comes out you can be sure to see some Portal 2 or EP3 news.
Nothing Valve has put out has made me want to play their games. So many good first party games for the PS3 I really don't care about their games anyway and wouldn't even care if they went under tomorrow.
Considering the PS3 is only now coming to about 25m sold worldwide, I'm uncertain how there is a userbase of 35million in the US.
Unless you're asking them to work on the PS2 as well?
Still, stupid and narrow minded? Not really. They arent being stupid if they'd spend more money developing an alternate kit for a third system that programs entirely differently than the PC and Xbox. It actually saves them a lot of money and dev time, specifically if they are uncertain of their sales numbers.
Self-centered? Well, yes, its a business. thats what they do.
Who gives a ***** about few games from Valve on PS 3? PS 3 is fine the way it is, and if it's a problem for a fat piggy, it's his problem, it surely isn't the true story, because games like Uncharted 2, MGS 4, Resistance, Killzone 2, Last Guardian, GT 5 and so on show that PS 3 is capable of much more than Valve can develop for the moment.
microsoft hasn't even reached 35 million worldwide yet along the US
Microsoft
North America - 11.6 million
Worldwide - 30.2 million
Sony
North America - 5.7 million
Worldwide - 23.8 million
Sony kicks the 360s ass in Europe and Japan though. Oddly the UK doesn't count as Europe and counts as itself and the 360s sell more there.
Portal was awesome, its a new IP
L4D apparently won many awards and game of the year.
So how does valve suck again? Oh right, its not coming to PS3. I guess when valve releases a few games for PS3 valve will not suck anymore. If you think that way then you sir is a fanboy.
actually game of the year was gta4.. then MGS4... nd LBP...those were the to 3.. that game probibly beat gears 4 360 game.. but every ps nominee was rated better than dat garbage game lol R2 LBP MGS4 all were better than it. only thing is r2 didnt get the respect it deserved cuz LBP's PCS method.. ps i have all three. nd gta nd played that ***** game lol thats y the dumps r overflowing lmao
You make a good point about how Sony does have some prominent developers who are not owned by Sony, but yet CHOOSE to stay exclusive. And, you get from the interviews that it is because of the *relationship* between the companies (the people and support they get from Sony) that they do so. So, that says a lot about a company. Obviously, M$ continues to 'pick-off' exclusives with big checks, so this probably is diminishing. Still, it is comical to see all these big companies with the big games who say, "It's exclusive" for months ... and then suddenly months later when the payola runs out, PS3 gets the "Special Edition" of the game (including all the add-on's and bonuses that Xbots paid for piece-by-piece).
When Ubisoft decided to make Splinter Cell Conviction XBOX 360 Exclusive, all they said was it's a "business decision". That is a much smarter answer than what this guy said. Even if it's true that Valve haven't figure out how the PS3 works yet, make up a LIE or just stay quiet and be a MS exclusive developer. The dumbest thing you can do is let everyone know you can't crack the PS3 and blame the fault on the system. If other major gaming development companies can develop fine for PS3 and you can't, its your fault. Only a kid shows such arrogance. Valve might make great games for PC and 360, but this shows the character of its company's leader and it will come and bite them in the future.
Valve is a hardcore PC developer.. Of course they're going to love the Xbox for two reasons.
1. Because Microsoft creates both Windows and the Xbox.
2. Their is a much larger hardcore Game/Valve fanbase on the Xbox 360.
2. Because it's easy to port a PC game over to the xbox. The PC is their home platform so of course the Xbox version is going to be better than the PS3 version.
You can't expect Valve to bend over backwards for a system/userbase they don't really care about. If you PS3 only users are so butthurt about this, go buy a good PC and stop your crying. If you really cared that much about Valve's games you'd already have a PC.
Steam is only a delivery platform, it has nothing to do with Valve as a developer.
Valve has not developed a new game that was any good since Half-Life 2......since then they have been trying to drag HL2 out as long as possible with crappy expansions and porting to consoles.
Lot's of people like left 4 dead, lot's do not, so it's hardly game of the year material, just a decent game.
PS3 owners are not missing anything by Valve doing this.
I also find it funny how by answering the question like this, Gabe is admitting they have no idea what they are doing with PS3 and are just too lazy.....
Steam actually has alot to do with valve.
Yes its a delivery system but its one that valve own and run and must be a huge revenue stream for them.
Personally i thought episode 1 and in particly episode 2 were great. althought it is annoying that its taking tehm so dam long to get episode 3 out the door.
They are a great pc developer and im glad i have a pc as well as a ps3.
I really wish that they would take the ps3 more seriously and produce games for it but at the end of the day its there decision.
And i do think that us ps3 owners do miss out with them not on the platform
It seems that the majority of the people on QJ are just ps3 fanboys (not including qj staff.) Not saying it's a bad thing but don't get all mad when a developer doesn't want to make games for your system. A lot of game developers are like that; they just aren't as vocal about it.
You may be mad at Valve but you cannot deny the fact that they are a AAA threat in the gaming industry. Especially now when gamesare coming from EA and Ubisoft which have become 3rd rate developers.
Half life, CS, Team fortress, L4D, Portal; all of those have become huge names, and if you call yourself a gamer then you have to recognize Valve for all their achievements.
Valve Wont even produce HAlf life 3 , they make big money from HL2 and cant give as a new game , and wont invistate in a PS3 team . very lazy company .
Tnx god we have JAP games devs
Gran tourismo poly 5 years in devs
MGS konami , 5 years
Final fantasy ...
God war ...
COD 4 IW multi engine who run in PC ps3 xbox360 smothly
does guys dont give up and try to give us their best
So why Valve crytec ubisoft whine .
jesus christ, i hate your short-handedness and lack of commas and perids.
They already have the Dev kit..... all they have to do is use it. Programing for the 360 and PC are also two completely different systems, while being similar they require a lot of separate work.
But this is the truth. Sony made a mistake. And while it will probably cost them... it also helps us out.
They broke the ice with the cell. The fact is, the 360 and the PC are so similar, that porting is easier than the PC to the PS3. Simply because of the cores.
And also. Calling valve lazy is stupid. They aren't lazy, they are just one of the many developers who don't have the time, nor money, to try to develop on the PS3. Also, why are you complaining.
Valve games SUCK on the 360. Its nothing you want on your PS3. If you want to play a valve game, play it on the PC. Believe me, its 100000 times better. Especially in the orange box's case. (TF2 on the 360= NO GO)
And all those who say "but look at all those FIRST PARTY GAMES" well that's just it, they are first party. All they need to focus on is the PS3, and therefore, their funds are pretty much made up. Valve may be big, but they can't take a chance like developing on a console they know they can't work on.
Your counter strike comment is horrible. As much as you would like to believe source is fun, 1.6 is one thousand times more popular, and more fun. It deserves updates.
Ps3 owners wont really miss their games anyway, Left for dead was the only game that might interest them and to be honest its not a game they makes you wanna buy a system.
By not porting it to Ps3 is loosing them Millions, so they are the silly ones.
(Btw I own PS3 and *****box 360, not Wii though lol)
most people that comment on here are PS3 fanboys and if you comment anything good on 360 you will be slammed for it,If you comment anything that doesn't pertain to the PS3 being a god of all systems and is a gift to humanity itself you are the lowest scum on earth my friend.
its they cant but the lack of knowledge , im not a PS3 fanboy and i have all systems , but guys realy do you think PS3 is a crap console with a crap bugy dev kit , no i dont think kojima and the others masters wouldnt accept it , the prolem in my opinion is the devlopment process , companies like Valve , ubisoft crytek loves their Games source collections that make them win time and ressource ,
so making new one for the ps3 will require more time and then more money .
but by the way do Valve cant just make a new Half life with same phisics and materials looks but in PS3 engine , seem not deficult for a game company
What do you expect by now, honestly? It doesn't matter what you're a fanboy OF, just the fact that anyone is a fanboy alone makes them just another commoner. Ignore them.
Listen kid, you can pretend that 1.6 is the best thing since sliced bread, but you know it's not. I based my comment off actual fact, not some commoner opinion like what your comment was.
Open up Steam and look at how many people play CSS as opposed to 1.6 daily. CSS + 100k every day, and 1.6 is 80-90k.
Face it, kid, Source is still selling copies and has been since it came out. Now stop wasting valuable comment space with your dribble.
(Eg. Gabe... what kinda name is Gabe anyway?)
Is it short for gabriel? Maybe its why hes so fat. the insecurity and confusion issues he must have through having that name... hence the shorter "gabe"?
Why is it you thats always rowing about which version of essentially the same game is better. lol
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They broke the ice with the cell. The fact is, the 360 and the PC are so similar, that porting is easier than the PC to the PS3. Simply because of the cores. "
Nothing to do with direct x is it.
Actually, there is nothing to do with Direct X.
Microsoft broke the ice with Direct X, which is simply a Visual Runtime. I am not an expert with consoles, so I don't know if the consoles have any internal processing software...
But, the architecture of the 360 and a PC are very alike, which I am not saying they are the same, nor are they EXTREMELY easy to port, because they aren't. It takes months to port a game from a PC to a 360. Its not as easy as changing a line of code...
But, its much simpler than the PS3. Remember, each core handles a different aspect of the system. On the 360 and PC, everything is centralized. So, when porting to the PS3, everything has to be correctly mapped and used.
Which is where most ports go wrong, because the dev's don't know what to do with them. They are confused, and that's the risk sony took. But, its a risk I believe sony HAD to take, for the good of us, and for the good of them.
As time goes on, dev's will eventually begin to understand the cell architecture, and eventually learn it. While this might take a while to do, eventually it will pay off the PS3, and then the next console that sony put's out there.
So yes, this has NOTHING to do with Direct X, other than it is the main platform for all developers. The core is a new thing, and it takes time to learn.
I give kudo's to sony, for taking the risk, and to valve, for knowing what is good for their own company.
PS3 outsells the XBox?
hahahahahaha!!!
Even metal gear solid 4 (which was best reason to buy PS3) and Little Big Planet (second good reason to buy PS3) and Heavy Rain (third good reason bo buy PS3) didnt helped sony to outsells the PS3,
Now sony dont even have new really great exclusives like Metal Gear! Metal Gear Rising will be cross-platform and Xbox version surely will look better with more high res textures and have better framerate as most of games do.
Metal Gear Peacewalker will appear on PSP, but not on PS3 and PSP is pretty different sector of market (peoples who preffer xbox to ps3, usualy have PSP, because its best hendheld console so far, microsoft have no portable units yet so... )
And u know what???
There are rumors based on some leaked info that 1 or 2 more Metal Gear Games in production for hendhelds or Wii and exclusively for XBOX 360 and not for PS3!!!!
At several russian sites i have found infromation that there is some game codenamed
"SOMEONE IS SNEAKING" or "SOMETHING IS SNEAKING" also rumored as "METAL GEAR DUALITY" or "METAL GEAR DILOGY" or "%u30E1%u30BF%u30EB%u30AE%u30A2%u4E8C%u91CD%u6027" in japanesse is in production for Xbox 360, PC and some handheld as psp or iphone.
http://forum.gameland.ru/m_1935003/mpage_28/tm.htm
http://www.mgstation.net/News_MG_D.htm
http://www.mgstation.net
There are some leaked arts that clues that game main Character IS GRAY FOX HIMSELF!
Also another clues gives idea that its something like Remake of original Metal Gear and Metal Gear 2 Solid Snake from MSX but with alternative point of view by GRAY FOX - this remind me Half Life Blue shif by valve + same black mesa but now we play Barny and not Freeman, so i really believe this one is metal gear one and metal gear two.
It also rumored as MGS 5 by some peoples!
There are also some arts with ! and ? that have hidden logo of Xbox 360 and gray background looks like xbox 360, so i think PS3 will never get this game.
With not exclusive Metal Gear PS3 have no chances to outsell Xbox 360.
QJ should post some NEWs about this rumor btw.
Left 4 Dead would have been way better on the PS3. Imagine how much bigger and better the levels and graphics could have been. More people to choose from? More weapons? Would have been awsome. Maybe we can get a killer zombie shooter for the PS3?!!!
its called getting steam hacked accounts they are so easy to get now a days and yet to mention a ***** load of sites that give em away... i will deff discontinue my support for L4D and also the rip off prices for stupid short Half life parts and ive asked all mates that have a 360 if i was to give them a choice for any of the consoles out now for free....yeah u know the answer when it comes down to free...
I never knew that how great a game is, is based off its popularity.
1.6 was great. Amazing at best. Source, is essentially the same game, for the old school graphics whores.
I admit, I play source more than 1.6 just because more people play it.
But I enjoy loading up 1.6 more than loading up source simply because of the enjoyment it causes.
who cares?!!!!!!!!!.. ps3 has so many other great developers for it..