who needs them, I'm perfectly fine with my inFamous and we're still getting Prototype. Honestly the only good games that I find FUN are exclusives. (and notice im saying GOOD games as in other people may like them just "I" don't as so theres no fanboyism in this comment.) I'm not gonna miss 'em, after all thats why I don't own a 360 anymore, it was a "FPS Box" to me, the only genre (sue me) I don't like

roflmao what a douche. Sounds like more of a excuse not to go through the hard work to adapt to the PS3.

The difference is that Valve has to make games for more than one console instead of just one like the developers of Killzone.

By all 3 consoles, I meant the PS3, 360, and of course the PC, which isn't a console, but you understand what I mean. Just in case anyone's too technical here, haha. ;P

The basic architecture will remain core, not cell.

Thus proving that guy who made Everyday Shooter is a a better developer than all of Valve

Like I said over a year ago, they're a bunch of lazy pricks. Honestly, they're the only dev I know who are still crying about how hard it is to develop for PS3. If Crytek can bring Crysis 2 to PS3 and 360, then...



And I still play a lot of Valve games on my PC. They suck when it comes to developmental priorities. Look at the reception of Portal and the Episodic content from HL2. Then look at Left 4 Dead. Rather than doing the smart thing and pleasing fans by actually working on Portal 2 and Episode Three, they decide to go against their own release strategy and release the L4D expansion pack known as L4D2, and all you have to do is go to their forums to see nothing but whining about L4D2's existence.



L4D1 wasn't even that great. No challenge at all, even on Expert. If you had 3 other [intelligent] people with mics, you could easily blaze through the missions. The campaigns were short, tedious, and had no real difference between all the levels. Start at point A, move to point B and activate this thing or climb this latter, which alerts 3 hordes, move to point C which is the safe room, repeat 4 more times until you get to the final mission, which then point C is the evacuation zone.



Like 6 guns, 5 enemies, and four campaigns which take 10-20 minutes to beat on Expert unless you wanna do a speedrun, it's just too tedious. They could of just done DLC, but they said all the content of L4D2 is too much for L41.



And then I looked at TF2. Almost all the classes have been updated, given new weapons and abilities, a crapload of new maps, etc. etc.



Valve, you just ain't got it. They weren't lying when they called themselves insane.

Valve are lazy and are making stupid excuses, if its so difficult to do then why are smaller companies making fine games on the PS3, also I met a guy (freelance developer) who worked with Gabe Newell on a UT game and he told me that Gabe Newell was the biggest quote/ F**KTARD that he has ever worked for....

I would laugh if we soon hit a new generation of consoles. Then they're out of business, at least concering consoles.



Seriously, what lazyness. Not only that they loose a hefty amount of money, but they are also laying against the progress of technology. They're like conservative christians, only in gaming.

"You used to have a dual 800mhz Powermac that would well outperform a 2ghz pentium."



The PowerMac could outperform an apparently more powerful Pentium PC for specific applications only, namely PhotoShop and another digital processing application (can't remember the name).



This was because Photoshop was optimized specifically for the Altivec instructions within the PowerPC processors, and therefore ran far better on Macs than on PCs. That's why whenever you saw Apple 'proving' the Mac was more powerful than the PC, they *always* used Photoshop (surprise, surprise ;)).



For every other application, including games, the PC outperformed the Mac, and over the years, the PowerPC fell further and further behind Intel. Hence with the arrival of multicore CPUs, Apple switched to the more powerful Intel processors.



Also, I don't believe Cell is the model for CPUs of the future. Yes, the trend is for more cores, but it's for multiple *identical* cores, not a main core with numerous but different 'support' cores. And the RISC/CISC argument has been running for decades :), one isn't better than the other, they both have advantages and disadvantages.

"They're like conservative christians, only in gaming. " - Way out of line dude...



True be told, they're really only hurting themselves. It's the nature of the business to progress as technology improves and they are simply saying "No, we don't want to progress and better our development and we don't want the $ from the PS3 community that is pretty much guaranteed. No thanks."

Valve are pretty crappy developers ya know...They aren't going to do anything on the PS3 because they simply can't and they also can't be bothered to TRY or LEARN how. Come on if EA teams can dev for PS3 then surely valve can...



Anyways, the stuff they release on PC and 360 is extremely buggy, they make great games but they are filled with a huge ammount of flaws. I've yet to play a valve game where I havent experienced loads of bugs that valve just dont ever fix.

Every single valve game is just like the last.

Valve has not been all that good anyway there More a 3rd rate games anyways.



Last Good game they made was Counter Strike.... O wait NO.. they did not make that game, Some guy who made a patch for Half life made it then Valve Ripped that guy off.



Yea i could care less if they make games for a Real system like PS3.

hacked steam CS accounts FTW

Miclowgunman hits the nail on the head. I think people have forgotten that Valve only exists today because they make a bang-up mod to the Quake engine. In a time when EVERYONE had their own mod of the Quake engine that was going to "change the world", Valve's mods actually DID (with Half Life 1). ....Thereafter, they worked closely with iD to get the latest engine builds for HL2, etc. ....But, at the end of the day, they are just another 'modder' company (at least that's how they started out). So, I think, it stands to reason that when faced with the concept that they might have to "dig deep" into their (borrowed) engine in order to get it to run on a customized hardware ---they cower in fear. Which is really nothing to respect, because there are a whole legion of other developers that face that challenge (and reap the rewards or failures thereof).

Valve may have mod'd the quake engine for HL1....but HL2 was run on the Source engine, which was completely built from the ground up by Valve and was a highly acclaimed engine for it's time.....



Not sure what you are talking about....

one - they're lazy.



two - they lack talent. Developers time and time again explain that the PS3 just forces you to think differently about how you code something, that it isn't as straight 1, 2, 3 as PC deving. Valve is can't get off their a$$es and learn something new, instead focusing on doing the same ol crap they've been doing for years and porting it to the 360.



I think begining this generation and shining more in the next that you'll see more and more devs rise to fame for actually taking a grasp on new technology and making wonderful games on it where as aging devs like valve will still be stuck in their own little worlds where they want to keep to windows95 and single cored, simple to program for cpus.