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Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer

Posted Apr 7, 2010 at 1:07PM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: PS3 Tags: castlevania: lords of shadow, Kojima Productions, Mercury Steam, Naughty Dog, uncharted 2: among thieves

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Castlevania: Lords of Shadow producer Dave Cox recently told PSM3 that while Naughty Dog's Uncharted 2 is superb both visually and technically, that doesn't mean it redefines 3rd-person action games. Why? Blame its exclusivity to the PS3.

"Uncharted 2 is a great game and I enjoyed it immensely. The standouts are the story and the voice acting," he said. "[But] Uncharted was a single format release. If any game is going to set a benchmark for a genre it would need to do so across multiple platforms."

Cox's Castlevania: Lords of Shadow is being developed by Mercury Steam with help from Kojima Productions. Since it's a multiplatform third-person action game, I guess in Cox's eyes it stands a better chance of actually redefining the genre than any platform-exclusive release.

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That is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. My IQ went down just reading this load of bull. If anything, the multiplatform games are holding gaming back, not the other way around.

This guy has just lost my respect and I will never buy a game from such a mind capable of saying this dumb crap.

+10 # Ya.... — Shatterdome 2010-04-07 14:53

I will second that, stupidest thing i've ever heard.

Why does a game need to be multi-platform to redefine any genre ? I would love for him to explain his reasoning....

# =] — BryCee12 2010-04-08 01:12

i third that..

+1 # RE: =] — Guest 2010-04-08 07:53

And I shall fourth it.
That makes absolutely no sense.
Doesn't matter what platform it's on, if it sets a new high standard then, no matter what console, it's still a new high standard.

+2 # RE: RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — papajag 2010-04-07 15:00

Quoting video gamer:

That is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard in my life. My IQ went down just reading this load of bull. If anything, the multiplatform games are holding gaming back, not the other way around.

This guy has just lost my respect and I will never buy a game from such a mind capable of saying this dumb crap.

Yeah...I hate to say it but multiplatform this gen is holding gaming back. I love my 360 and all but with DVD9 many of my favorite games this gen are either too short or full of backtracking. This is the reason why I've bought most of the PS3 exclusives. Games maybe be short but at least you can see the effort made by the devs.

+3 # Hell — ShinseiTom 2010-04-07 15:20

Even with the "limitations" of the 360, when people make a game specifically for the 360 only, it generally shines brightly.
It's when they try to create the game for multiple vastly different platforms that it becomes troublesome.

Interestingly, that same argument can be modified to be one of the problems with the PC back in the day. However, with everything using DirectX or OpenGL, the only thing you really have to worry about these days is raw computing power, not vastly different hardware quirks and the like.

And with multiplatform games coming to the PC, you don't even have to worry much about raw power either. My 8800GT from early 2008 is still playing most of those at 1920x1200 with things cranked up high or medium high. You can create a decent powerhouse of a computer for 600 or less these days that'll play what you throw at it.

Huh... so if most of my reasoning is correct, multiplatform games and consoles in general have actually helped PC gamers in some ways?

+1 # @ShinseiTom — papajag 2010-04-07 16:17

You proved video gamers point. Multiplatform games hold gaming back. Exclusive titles have to be near perfect in order to attract the gamers to buy that system.

Online portion of the 360 is amazing which is why online multiplayer games sells more on the 360. I hate Gears with a passion, but people only love that game for the online portion.

# Me third. — jmak0 2010-04-08 11:39

I agree, the quality of a game should be judged irrespective of the platform(s) is it on. We don't judge films by which film studio or director made them do we? We judge them on their own merits as a unique experience, while comparing them to other films in a genre. The same should be true for games.

+1 # Jealous much? — Guest 2010-04-07 14:48

that's like saying that mario didn't redefine anything because was exclusive to NES at that time.
Stupid and silly.

+2 # Ha! — Guest 2010-04-07 14:53

This is coming from a guy who is making a Castlevania God of War knockoff.

-1 # mmmm — Guest 2010-04-07 15:00

NO WAIT

THIS NEEDS CAPS

THE QJ EDITOR SAID REDEFINE, HE SAID SET A BENCHMARK

there is a major difference, and he is totally right, a game on the 360 doesnt have to match UC2 because its on a totally different platform.

UC2 can still redefine a genre but not set a benchmark, the two thing are totally exclusive to each

FOR CHRIST SAKE CHANGE THE TITLE

+1 # ummm — narutosaiyan 2010-04-07 16:42

it does set a benchmark....
just cuz there is no game on 360 half as good as uncharted doesnt mean it doesnt set a benchmark... despite the fact that a game on 360 will never surpass it, that mark has been set.

-1 # lol — Guest 2010-04-07 21:53

Mass effect 2 says hi

+1 # wht about it — narutosaiyan 2010-04-07 23:30

its an rpg. FF7 says hi

-1 # what about it? — Guest 2010-04-08 02:13

You said "just cuz there is no game on 360 half as good as uncharted " so I said Mass Effect 2. Plus have you even played ME 2? Its a Shooter with some rpg element.

@Zhipp he's not a fan of Uncharted, he is just a ps3 fanboy who bashes everything about the 360. I have never seen him post something positive about the 360.

+1 # thats cuz — narutosaiyan 2010-04-08 23:36

there is nothing good about 360 thats not on ps3 or pc...PROVE ME WRONG.

# get off the d*ck already — Guest 2010-04-08 19:24

13-14 years ago says hi fan boy, you're thinking "innovation" was 2 gens ago

"just cuz there is no game on 360 half as good as uncharted"

... suuuuuuuuuuuuuu ure li'l one, go play with your cloud and tifa dolls now

# lol — Zhipp 2010-04-07 23:06

Sounds like you're a big fan of Uncharted.

+2 # agreed — truk 2010-04-07 15:56

everyone +1

cox -1

+1 # What a silly thing to say — Guest 2010-04-07 17:37

Last time I checked, Halo was Xbox exclusive and back then it redefined FPS-games on consoles.
But Uncharted 2 can't?

-1 # RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — Guest 2010-04-07 18:14

cox can suck on it. his name says everything

# RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — astaroth001 2010-04-07 18:26

I dont even know what to say cuz you'll did it already...still...CV in 3d is dead and LoS wont do anything...just cuz he has the help of Kojipro it doesnt mean the game will kick ass

# hmpf.. — Guest 2010-04-07 18:36

I dont even understand....
who is he to talk about it?
Really?...
how come that the Castalvania series sucks now then? If he is such a genious in this area... The Castlevania series was pretty cool back in the snes days.
But I think that they have lost "it".

# zomgz — HeX 2010-04-07 19:02

Doesn't PC count as a platform as well? Is his game going to be on PC and Wii as well? What's that? No?

If he means "Uncharted 2 should come out on 360" then that's just ridiculous! Why not on the PC and Wii? LoS isn't exactly "multiplatform" you can't count out Wii and the PC. SPECIALLY PC!

-1 # You can can count out — phiyuku 2010-04-07 19:49

the Wii because it's not really a game console. More like a gimmick that dies and collects dust in 2 weeks.

+1 # Retarded — Zhipp 2010-04-07 23:12

Comments like yours are just stupid. If the Wii isn't a game console then what is it? Are games not coming out for it? Was it not made SPECIFICALLY for playing games?

# RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — Guest 2010-04-07 19:25

im not even sure the other platforms could handle it except for pc

# huh — fearlubu 2010-04-07 21:00

so this guy thinks that he's bigtime or something? well he is...kind of...

what is this shit that is spewing from the orifices of his mouth?

# Losing IQ.... — Guest 2010-04-08 04:51

Setting a benchmark is hindered with even trying to make a multi platform game. Have any of you seen a multi platform game thats been ported to the PS3, it makes the PS3 graphics look poor even sitting side by side to the X360 version. this happens due to porting. if a PS3 is left to an exclusive title, it will usually be near perfection in one or more categories, ie, KZ2 UC2 MAG and so on. the 360 has huge limits to what it can do, and if you try and constrain something to within a multi platform game it turns out your limiting both PS3 and x360, and since x360 is easier to code for it usually ends up PS3 getting the short end of the stick with a pathetic port.

-1 # ... — Silver-Tiger 2010-04-08 06:51

...Just like FF7 didn't refine the RPG genre because ot was exclusive to PSone. Or Halo because it was exclusive to Xbox.

Oh wait....

# RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — Guest 2010-04-08 07:58

Seems the actual gamers seem to be universally against your viewpoint, Cox...

# RE: RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — Guest 2010-04-08 20:10

majority of these guys just talk out of their poop chute. Or are the "If we didn't think of it we'll bash it" trolls. I never understood why people listen to these cynical brats instead of trying something out for themselves and just accepting it for what it is, good or bad.

Like how certain ppl get all huffy over a review "there's no way the game deserved a 10" but in the same breath say "but meta critic rated it so highly" about another game. UC2 was good, but to say it was anything near revolutionary, is kinda just padding the product in my opinion.

# RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — Guest 2010-04-08 08:16

Hang on a minute here, uncharted 2 isn't out on the 360 mostly because the 360 just couldn't do it the same justice the cell/BE/ps3 can same goes for infamous, the developers said they just couldn't get it to run anywhere nearly as good on the 360
don't get me wrong I have both but the 360 is mostly gathering dust, well except for a bit of gears of war once in a while

+1 # wut.. — Seeandgo 2010-04-08 08:35

Exclusive console games redefining genre??? Proposterous!!! !!

# ¬_¬' — Guest 2010-04-08 09:07

And Halo redefined the FPS genre?....Being exclusive to Xbox only.....

¬_¬'

Honestly...

-1 # RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — truk 2010-04-08 23:23

like wii hasn't redefined gaming..

# RE: Uncharted 2 didn't redefine action games because it wasn't multiplatform, says Castlevania: LoS producer — Guest 2010-04-16 19:16

Both consoles have their merits. I've had my 360 for 4 years and obviously have amassed a larger collection of games for it. I've had my PS3 for a year, and built up a collection of about 300 blu rays. I haven't gone overboard with ps3 titles since I have both systems, but I've purchased most of the quality PS3 exclusive titles. Infamous, Everything God of War Related,LBP,MGS 4, the Ratchet and Clank games and Uncharted series were all the reasons I bought one in the first place. Let alone MLB the Show is the only good baseball franchise left. At least til 2k loses the "3rd party exclusive" license on MLB. Why be a fanboy?

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