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The Great Videogame Versus - Snake vs Sam

Posted Jul 3, 2006 at 8:58AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: chui, Dragon, Lotus, Master Chief, playstation 3 updates, Samus, Sony
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Videogame Versus


Solid Snake vs Sam Fisher

Why the fight?
Simply put, they're both getting on in years, they're both sneaky fellas, and they've just been itching to have a go at one another for years now. It's time to find out who the better agent is.

Vital Statistics:

Videogame VersusSolid Snake
Height: 6ft
Weight:198lbs

Training: Expertly trained elite soldier, proficient in close quarters combat and trained in the use of multiple kinds of light and heavy weaponry including high yield explosives. Special training includes Green Beret, FOXHOUND and CIA training.

Misc: His real name is David, last name is unknown but aliases include "Iroquois Pliskin" and "Old Snake". With an IQ of 180 and the ability to speak six different languages, Snake's about as sharp as they come. Of Japanese and British descent, Snake is a clone currently suffering the effects of advanced cellular degradation borne of the "Les Enfants Terrible" genetic experiment, which was intended to create the perfect soldier by cloning the remains of the greatest soldier in history, "Big Boss." Currently a member of the global anti-Metal Gear group known as Philanthropy, Snake was exposed to the FOXDIE virus during the Shadow Moses Incident.

Upcoming games: Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots

Vital Statistics:

Videogame VersusSam Fisher
Height: 5ft 10 inches
Weight:170lbs

Training: Advanced weapons training, NSA (Third Echelon) training, CIA training, HAHO (High Altitude High Opening) HALO (High Altitude, Low Opening) insertion training and Navy SEAL Team 3 special training.

Misc: His full name is Samuel Leo Fisher, but officially Sam Fisher is a ghost and does not exist. The first recruited member of the NSA's Third Echelon group, Sam is adept at stealth and subterfuge, highly athletic and agile, he is an expert at breaking through defenses and executing a target with lethal efficiency. Much like Solid Snake, Sam was born and bred on the battlefield, having served in Afghanistan, Korea and Kuwait, and like Snake he is now alone in the world, as both his ex-wife and daughter are dead.

Upcoming games: Splinter Cell: Double Agent



The Outcome:
Snake's got the reach, he's also got the agility, Sam's a sneaky guy and some would argue he's got more moves than Snake does, he would also appear to be in better health than Snake presently, but his apparently unstable psychological condition negates this advantage. When it comes down to it, Solid Snake is faster, smarter and stronger than Sam Fisher. Sam is more than capable of tackling one or two opponents at a time and he can be a cold blooded killer, but once things start getting really ugly he usually can't handle the heat. Snake has taken down tanks, helicopters, and even a cybernetic Ninja, I think that guarantees a win. As a result Snake wins.



We hope you've enjoyed this first entry in an ongoing series of Great Videogame Versus articles we've got lined up, please feel free to add your comments below and let us know what you think. Here's a list of future versus battles we've got coming up!

-Ryu vs Liu Kang

-Samus Aran vs The Master Chief

-Mario vs Sonic

-Ratchet vs Fox

-Hotsuma vs Ryu Hayabusa

-Samanosuke vs Jube

-Dante vs Pikachu

-Simon Belmont vs Alucard

-Kratos vs Riddick

-Link vs Cloud Strife

-Max Payne vs Agent 47

-Lara Croft vs The Prince of Persia

-Auron vs Sephiroth

-Raziel vs Kain



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# ...Guest 2006-07-03 08:10
Why is this crap being posted here? Sam Fisher would win by default because Snake is dead from MGS4. I wish stupid crap wouldn't be posted on the 360 section. This kind of news is just a wanna-be GameFAQS from when they do the character battles.

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# wellGuest 2006-07-03 08:11
not that i dont agree but alot of ppl will disagree

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# link vs cloudGuest 2006-07-03 08:15
oh man that one is going to be heated link vs cloud!!

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# DFDGuest 2006-07-03 08:34
SAM SHOULD GO AND PICK A LOCK OR SOMETHING..SNAKE RULESS

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# Snake...Guest 2006-07-03 08:35
Snake Would Win, For Sure.

As for Auron vs Sephiroth, There are too many Sephiroth fanboys out there, It's an unfair battle. My Vote goes to Auron, he's damn cool, He's had his problems and even kept on fighting and kept hios cool throughout the game.

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# why do they try so hard to imitate them by saying "find out after the jump"?Guest 2006-07-03 08:52
QJ.net is the Quick JUMP network, hence "find out after the jump". I don't think either Engadget or Joystiq use the phrase "find out after the jump", but I could be wrong. Hope that answers your question.

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# sdsdGuest 2006-07-03 09:01
Snake is da man he will own Fisher!

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# ...III AnubisX III 2006-07-03 09:09
Do they have to be from different games? If not you guys should do a classic: Scorpion VS Sub-Zero

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# # 8Guest 2006-07-03 09:09
OMG and they copied the www. at the beginning of their url.



Dude get a clue.

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# Snake no doubtGuest 2006-07-03 09:18
Was there a doubt? Snake has it all.

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# over ratedeGuest 2006-07-03 09:19
both series are extremely over rated.... MGS is nothing but movies, and Splinter Cell could use some more polished gameplay. Splinter Cell by far is better though MGS is one of the most over rated and over hyped games made.

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# Scorpion VS Sub-ZeroGuest 2006-07-03 09:21
Good suggestion Anubis. We'll see if we can't get that set up!

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# Snake all the wayGuest 2006-07-03 09:22
ya baby, snake is the best, stealthiest and most killing video game character ever, too bad for MGS4 thou, maybe raiden will be in MGS5, hehe. Nice Article.

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# Scorp VS SubIII AnubisX III 2006-07-03 09:25
You guys should let me put my two cents in since it was my suggestion ;)

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# On Cool factor alone Snake rules the dayTheProfessor 2006-07-03 09:29
Not no mention Snake is just better in every way.



That Cloud vs Link is going to be good. Of course once again Cloud will destroy Link on cool factor alone but you can never leave out a man in tights.

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# Snake made FisherGuest 2006-07-03 09:32
Snake would kill Sam in anything, hey how about we try and e-mail nintendo to put Sam Fisher in the new Super Smach Bros Braw Game. Snake is a legend people, that you will not forget. Sam Fisher be will nothing, just like Gabe Logan. Besides I feel more of a badass playing as a name like Soild Snake than Sam Fisher or Gabe Logan. Sam Fisher SUX. I mean compare Double Agent to MGS4.

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# SNAKE!Guest 2006-07-03 09:33
Sam has nothing on Snake.



I wont say any of the plp who said Sam would win are idots because my mate seems to think that Agent 47 would beat both there ass' silly git!

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# link versus cloudGuest 2006-07-03 09:36
Top two best video games ever: The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Final Fantasy 7.



Link v. Cloud



I'd put money on Link though.

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# MG Started it all (kinda)Guest 2006-07-03 09:40
I wonder which game started all this stealth tactical action business.....oh noes it was Metal Gear!

Hideo Kojima's games are really a work of art, although I think he has some eccentric tendancies, it's still one of the better games out there next to Mario and all the other greats. Something tells me all those noobs out there haven't played any of the series fully enough to understand it, or they could just be little kids who can't take a bit of thinking and go nutso.

Splinter Cell is better because of the Somewhat polished realism, and Metal Gear is better due to the storytelling and wide range of gameplay options, though not as much as Splinter Cell's, it is still very very good.

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# hmm Scorpion vs SubGuest 2006-07-03 09:43
anyway KaNo ll own both :P

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# SNAKEGuest 2006-07-03 10:01
Snake for sure!



You feel like he is human or someting because of his story.. background.. history.. the way Kojima brings him to life..



Sam feels artificial..

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# Snake wins...Guest 2006-07-03 10:07
Because Sam is just a copy-cat of the series that revolutionized gameplay, namely, the Metal Gear series by Hideo Kojima.

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# btwGuest 2006-07-03 10:08
stealth??? who is stealth with green lights on his head :P

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# Snake THe man any snake will doGuest 2006-07-03 10:11
Solid Snake hands down, lucky the Original isn't still alive "bigBoss" he'd own all using only fork to boot to make the odds even.

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# pointlessPyro 2006-07-03 10:12
this is more for a forum discussion, not a *****ing news post.

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# lookblaquespectre 2006-07-03 10:33
look

sam fisher is in a way like a real guy and realistic in the sense of of the way things happen to him in the game.

snake is a complete fantasy, i mean come on how many cyber -ninja do YOU know? how many giant bipedal mecha YOU see

walking around shooting missiles at people and them getting right back up again?

your comparing apples and oranges here.

you might as well as which war was bloody-er: WW2 or the clone wars!

apples and oranges

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# alright chris.. please stop posting on qj FOREVERGuest 2006-07-03 10:34
STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP PLEASE! nobody cares!!!!!111

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# Pointless hatingGuest 2006-07-03 10:38
Ok I know I just talked about QJ having biased opinions and me not wanting to hear there opinions. But guess who's opinion I wanna hear ever less? Its you, the memebers :P I love little fluff news like this. It's fun and it gives the writers something to do along with everyone else something to read. For the record Splinter Cell completly doesnt even hold a candle to the quality of production that MGS is.

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# WTF???Guest 2006-07-03 10:48
hell no, Sam would easily kill snake, Sam has had more time on the feild and is way way more stealthier then snake, Snake is gonna die soon, look how old he is, Sam is a freaken shadow, when you know that hes coming, its already tooo late...........

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# @ number 23Guest 2006-07-03 10:48
who started of this stealth buisness ? rikimaru thats who , and if sony , the dumb *****s that they are, didnt sell the rights to from software maybe he'd come back in a game worthy to be the successor to the original tenchu.

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# yeaGuest 2006-07-03 10:49
Sam Fisher would win

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# MG vs. SCGuest 2006-07-03 10:54
Who cares? Both those games suck. They are both boring slow games.

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# this is not pointless cause....Guest 2006-07-03 10:56
it ends some arguments about snake vs sam,and besides if u dont want to read it then dont and stop complaining b****

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# Sam Fisher would win...xsouthpole 2006-07-03 10:56
Sam Fisher would win, because even though he is more stiff than snake, snake is an old man(almost), so therefore, snakke would have to suffer speed which would make that about the same. Same Fisherhas the better kill moves, if you recall, all snake does is choke and shoot. Sam can breaak necks in several different ways, over a pole for example. Sam also has the better technology. The only was snake would win is shooting him, sam can knock him unconcious when snake gets close because Sam also has the better camoflage. I'd say it would be close, but Sam should take it away. And Sam is funnier. :D

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# who started of this stealth buisness ? rikimaru thats whoGuest 2006-07-03 10:58
I believe Tenchu launched a month after the first Metal Gear on PS1, also, Snake's been around since the MSX days, but yeah, Rikimaru's a badass. I was toying with the idea of a freeway between him, Ryu Hayabusa and Hotsuma.

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# MGSGuest 2006-07-03 10:59
MGS is one of the most absurd games ever. The Japanese truly smoke crack for breakfast. MGS, Katamari and that TV show MXC??

A prime minister singing Elvis?

However, in all fairness it is truly refreshing to see things having no qualms about absurdity.



The world needs more silliness. Which is what makes it both sad and funny when I cast my vote for Sam Fisher. A game made by Canadians about an American agent pursuing American interests.



Which begs the question: when are the Japanese gonna make a game about Paul Bunyon on a drunken rampage in a hockey rink?

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# lol, sam didn't had any chancesenjutsu 2006-07-03 11:34
man I really like these kind of character battles, in this situation, it's simple, snake battled all of it's time, and he can handle almost everything. But he'll die in MGS4 :( at least we'll have a very good story another time =D.

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# wellGuest 2006-07-03 11:45
these posts are brilliant



its just silly fanboys like : $0l\/y TILL I DIIIIE



nd : o well microsoft technically have the advantage......



give it a rest......you should all be more open minded

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# Comparing Snake and Sam is a joke...johantheolive 2006-07-03 12:00
Considering Snake has been around since 1998 (starting with the Solid games) and Sam was created in 2002, isn't it interesting how both series' have the same number of games? Not to mention that MGS has been easily one of the most revolutionary franchises in gaming. A game with a plot, great gameplay, a dedicated developer (consider that Spinter Cell doesn't really have a proclaimed mastermind, whereas Kojima is undoubtedly up there with Miyamoto). Both are good games, but ignoring all the nonsense about the size of the characters testicles, the true series winner is clear.

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# who is better?Guest 2006-07-03 12:10
Ha, some of you are dammed shrivs. Snake would own the living ***** out of Fisher. Snake knows CQC and he has the Big Boss' genes, therefore making him a son of the "greatest soldier".



All Sam has that Snake probably dosn't is his hide in the shadows thing. But all in all Snake is a better soldier.



Also what Johantheolive said.

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# MAN they all suckGuest 2006-07-03 12:17
Goku will kill them all

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# i like the idea of this vs battle thingcomedy 2006-07-03 12:55
disregarding the mgs vs splinter cell debate, i'd plug for snake to beat sam fisher... he's probably one of the toughest humans in videogames. (i hope his death makes me cry, it's likely)



i can't conceivably see anyone ever beating cloud in a fight... he'd just go omnislash and own them.





personally i like this kind of article, it makes me think and it's fun to see what people come up with.

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# who started of this stealth buisness ? rikimaru thats whoGuest 2006-07-03 13:12
tenchu was a whole month ahead of metal gear ...and also i prefferred it to metal gear . infact i remembered syphon filter being better than metal gear to play but the series didnt progress well , just like tenchu.

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# Snake > SamGuest 2006-07-03 13:23
Both in terms of gameplay (SC is overrated) and in terms of character depth, ability and experience, Snake is the superior. Sam Fisher is Snakes school yard b*tch.

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# The winner!Annony 2006-07-03 13:26
Sam Fisher vs Solid Snake... I smell a flamewar!



Pyramid Head (SH2) would kill them all... and then have necro-masochistic sex with their bodies...

Except for maybe Sephiroth...

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# i just saw the superman movie!Guest 2006-07-03 13:34
sam is a snake wannabe.

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# ...Guest 2006-07-03 14:16
This is the biggest laod of bull*****...



Snake in Snake Eater preforms a HALO jump, Snake is a humched over tool, wiht no personality, who has jack ***** 'moves' comapred to snake......



Seroiusly the MGS games ***** all over Splinter Cell

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# how about a...Guest 2006-07-03 14:25
...3 way, with the 3 different characters in the GTA franchise?

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# mullet heads unitedGuest 2006-07-03 14:43
No self respecting military man has a mullet. There's yer clue right there.



talk amongst yourselves...

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# no contest..SoulReaver 2006-07-03 15:42
Snake totally had this in the bag i mean come on

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# mcGuest 2006-07-03 15:54
masterchief owns them both

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# snakeGuest 2006-07-03 16:20
Snake wins without a doubt

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# I AGREEGuest 2006-07-03 16:40
"look

sam fisher is in a way like a real guy and realistic in the sense of of the way things happen to him in the game.

snake is a complete fantasy, i mean come on how many cyber -ninja do YOU know? how many giant bipedal mecha YOU see

walking around shooting missiles at people and them getting right back up again?

your comparing apples and oranges here.

you might as well as which war was bloody-er: WW2 or the clone wars!

apples and oranges"





I AGREE

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# masterchiefGuest 2006-07-03 16:43
yeah I admit masterchief would absolutely PWN both of them

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# asfdGuest 2006-07-03 17:56
master chief would rape em both. or kratos with his chain sword things.

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# Snake will always dominateGuest 2006-07-03 18:27
In a recent article with hideo kojima in the latest PSM he talks about snake having even more sick moves than previous games. He didnt exactly specify but kojima siad he will have an arsenal of hand to hand combat attacks now. Actually anyone interested in anything about PS3 should pick up the latest issue. It has lots of preview with actual hands on, interviews with hideo kojima and kaz. Also by the looks of MGS4 raiden could pown sams ass as well.

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# masterchief?senjutsu 2006-07-03 18:29
And I suppose you could say superman would beat them as well, superman I suppose can beat anyone, so what? the deal is to put characters that fit, you won't see a cybrog style masterchief compared with normal guys :S, and you won't see superman compared to masterchief!! this is common sense, so just try to compare with better compatibility!

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# I just checked the "next fights" list and err...senjutsu 2006-07-03 18:33
"-Dante vs Pikachu" ???



wtf, dante vs pikachu? please find something better to versus dante!

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# Fisher winsGuest 2006-07-03 18:40
Snake sucks, annoying emo that talks in riddles and ends up killing himself.

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# who caresGuest 2006-07-03 19:07
agent 47 would not fight them like some macho jack@ss, while snake and sam are arguing, 47 would snipe them in the head, pack up his suitcase, and then go out for a drink before his next hit, by the way im a fan of 47, snake, sam, and logan in that order so dont delete my comment you @sshole :)

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# Dante vs Pikachu ????usmanmr 2006-07-03 19:28
Is that a Joke ???

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# Dante vs Pikachu ????usmanmr 2006-07-03 19:30
Is that a Joke ???

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# youre all retardedGuest 2006-07-03 20:17
yeah... sam would win.. simple matter of timeframe. SC is present... MGS is future... sam will probably die before snakes born... this is dumb... when snake was in his training, his simulator was splinter cell

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# Snake FTWGuest 2006-07-03 20:22
I played and beat all mgs games (including nes, msx, gbc) and all splinter cell games. And to be truthful I would betray Sam first before I ever think of doublecrossing Snake. SNAKe FTW

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# .III AnubisX III 2006-07-03 20:37
Sonic VS Knuckles?

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# noGuest 2006-07-03 21:52
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if you dont want childish comments on this f*&%n site.. then dont POST CHILDISH news posts!!!! idiots.



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# ....Guest 2006-07-03 22:24
Sam and snake are equal. Neither would win they would both cancel each other out..... End of discussion

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# Too simpleGuest 2006-07-03 23:32
Snake Pliskin could easily kick both their asses, and Solid Snake is the closest to Pliskin so he could beat out Sam Fisher, although, Sam would still put up one hell of a fight.

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# ....Guest 2006-07-04 00:07
Look here Snake is a clone, yes like no.47, but he was designed to be the perfect soldier, thanks to the genes of Big Boss. He's capable of any types of combat be it sniping, CQC, Anti Armour ect, hell as much as I like Fisher he's a total wanker compared to Snake, who mind you actually has a personality. Agent 47 can change clothes, so can snake, he can snipe, so can snake, hell he's cool but Snake would kick his arse too.... Seriously anyone who has played any of the MGS games from start to finish would agree with me...



>> SW1, your 1 helluva total *****, have you even tried a MGS game, other than looking at the MGS4 trailer..

Jesus I like splinter Cell, and I rahtered it over MGS, until I properly played MGS 2......

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# 52 and 78Guest 2006-07-04 02:10
52. » tenchu was a whole month ahead of metal gear ...

metal gear existed long before that, not solid. there is metal gear and metal gear 2: solid snake



78. » Snake Pliskin is solid snake if you didn 't know.

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# noGuest 2006-07-04 02:15
omg! the idiocy continutes!!! christ!!

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# there wouldnt be cut scenes without metal gear and it is a beautfull gameGuest 2006-07-04 03:02
Kojima is simply a genious when it comes to creating video games without a dought. Tom Clancy shouldn't try to hatch his ass on to Kojima for a free ride. Tom Clancy should stick to Ghost Recon and Rainbow Six.





Oh and another suggestion for a vs. post would be Kojima vs. Clancy.



I know it's for games but think it would be a good fight to have. Although I think it's obvious where my vote would go HE!

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# SNAKE WINS WITHOUT LIFTING FINGERGuest 2006-07-04 04:14
snake will kill sam. he can kick his ass, but he dont need to lift a finger



all he has to do is program the foxdie in snake to attack sams genes. then its all over. snake will kill him without even haveing to lift a finger. simple. GOOD OLD FOX DIE!!!



one more thing im still waiting for sam fishy to beat a nuclear walking stealth tank with a rail gun

((metal gear to you splinter cell zoids)). like thats ever ganna hapen with is big green lights on each eye.

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# SSSNNNNNAAAAAKK KKKKKEEEEEEE!!! !!111!!!eleven!!Guest 2006-07-04 04:24
Snake wins full stop. Sam Fisher is old but Solid Snake is old BUT he has Tom Selleck moustache thus making him win. When I'm as old as Solid Snake I want to look that cool. Also put Ratchet vs Jak and Clank vs Daxter. I reckon the winners would be Ratchet and Daxter

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# You FanboysGuest 2006-07-04 05:34
Everyone who says Sam will win are just gay or crazy or both how the hell do u work out that sam would win you fanboys, CUMMON SNAKE. SNAKE would kick @$$ everytime. Laters

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# SnakeGuest 2006-07-04 05:44
I think they made snake relistic because he is young and then gets old.

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# SNAKE... *duh*Guest 2006-07-04 06:09
Snake will own Sam anytime.

Why?

1. Snake + Foxdie = Sam dies.

2. Sam hides in shadow + Big green eye = Sam dies.

3. Sam is gay.

4. Snake is cool.

5. I have and Xbox. I play SC. Sam is gay.

6. I've played all MGS. Snake is da man. Sam is gay.

7. Did I say Sam is gay? Lol.

8. No.83 --> Lol... Big green eye... HAHAHHAHAHA

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# 61,64Guest 2006-07-04 06:46
masterchief, cmon that *****.

Cyrax from mortalkombat would kill his *****ass.

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# mcGuest 2006-07-04 07:09
Masterchief still owns them all. Any character in any game maybe other than black & white cause then your God.

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# ObviouslyGuest 2006-07-04 07:12
Well obviously Solid Snake was gonna win, he is teh pwnage!!! BY FAR!!! as was said, he can take down helicopters, fighter jets, and HUGE nuclear-loaded robots!!! sam can kill..............small time criminals. point proven lol

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# no flamingGuest 2006-07-04 07:42
but, all you people saying sam would lose due to the green lights on his head, do you realize that those are nightvision goggles? So all sam would have to do is wait for it to get dark, pull them down over his eyes, and slit snakes juggular vein with his combat knife, simple.

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# snake ownsGuest 2006-07-04 08:49
thats nice and all but snake also has nightvision goggles and they don't look as stupid as sams and also don't point out his position like a damn green headlight, snake kicks ass even without gaggets. snake is trained to use anything around him to finish the mission and is sent in with nothing, standered fox hound regulation. even so he does get everything sam gets and more but dosen't rely on them now thats true skill, if anyone is to be compared to sam it's james bond, and james still has the better gaggets.

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# Lara Croft vs the Prince of Persia? wtf??Guest 2006-07-04 09:04
it should be Lara Croft vs Indiana Jones, and the Prince of Persia vs Kratos or Dante.



also, the Samus vs Master Chief is so cliche it's ridiculous. Samus deserves better competition than the Master Chief.



Ratchet vs Fox is kind of interesting.



there should be Solid Snake (circa MGS2 or MGS3) vs Batman. now *that'd* be a kickass battle. i'm still torn on who would win that one. ultimately, i think maybe Batman would, but then again, Snake wouldn't hesitate about pulling the trigger or snapping Bat's neck, whereas Batman would refuse to finish Snake off.



anyway, Snake would kick Sam's ass. i mean, he is a clone of the "greatest soldier in history." it's in his genes to be badass. and to also die of accelerated aging due to his cloning. oh, the irony.

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# about Snake...Guest 2006-07-04 09:20
in a recent interview with Hideo Kojima, he said that he wasn't even sure himself if Solid Snake will die in MGS4. i think the article was in OPM, or Play magazine.



don't forget the misleading trailer for MGS2, where you saw Solid Snake running around the Big Shell base shooting things and people, and it turned out that you were playing as Raiden through those areas. Kojima is very good at leading the masses to think one thing, then slapping them across the face with another. the guy putting the gun in his mouth in MGS4 may not be Snake in the actual game. also ignore the lines about wiping his genes off of the face of the earth. you know how movie trailers will have dialogue playing over a scene in the trailer, but the same scene in the movie will have different dialogue, completely unrelated? i think we're seeing the same thing here.



we do know that Snake is going to die (perhaps), but not necessarily at the end of MGS4. who knows, there may be a way to stop his accelerated aging, or at least stablize his genes so they won't deteriorate anymore.



it should also be noted, that Hideo Kojima has said that even though Snake looks like pushing 70, he's still only a 40 year old man. so far, the deterioration hasn't affected his muscles yet (just his lungs, but that could be from his chronic smoking). so physically, i think that Snake is on par with Sam, whether it be Snake from MGS2, Big Boss Snake from MGS3, or Old Snake from MGS4.



also, thanks to some of the Sam Fisher fans giving their thoughts on why he would win the fight. i don't like the Splinter Cell games at all (too slow and boring for me), but some of you guys have been very fair and inciteful as to your reasonings, and not the standard "Sam powns everything!!! Snake suckorrzz!!!11" i don't really know much about Sam, so i just defaulted to Snake, but after reading some of you guy's arguments, i think the fight would be very very good, though i do still think Snake would come out on top. or they'd just go out for a beer together and swap war stories.

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# agent 47Guest 2006-07-04 09:37
who cares 47 would snipe both in the head and leave for his next hit, and ***** you @sshole i have played all mgs and sc games

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# number 80Guest 2006-07-04 14:14
Snake Plisskin is not Solid Snake. Snake Plisskin is the badass character from the John Carpenter films "Escape form New York" and "Escape from L.A." played by Kurt Russell.



Hideo Kojima has stated that the character designs for Solid Snake and Big Boss were based on Snake Plissken. In MGS2, the name Iroquois Pliskin is a reference to Snake Plisskin, and in MGS3, Solid Snake (who later assumes the alias Big Boss) has an eyepatch, much like Snake Plisskin.



If you haven't seen either of those movies, I would recommend them.

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# aGuest 2006-07-04 20:50
Ok, everything's cool, except I just don't know from where author of this text dug up that Snake has IQ 180?!

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# buhuuGuest 2006-07-05 00:47
Even though being a SC fanboy I must admit that snake is way cooler then Sam. Sam is just who he is because he has been very trained and stuff, snake feels like he is alive and has a personality and style and such. It feels as if though you could exchange sam for me and it would still be a good game, but imagine MSG without snake! BUT SC is still funnier because of the many moves and it is 'stealthier' and more realistic storie and such, thats why I am an SC faboy, not a Sam fanboy.

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# Quick JUMP?Guest 2006-07-05 04:05
@Christopher (staff)...



Um...QJ stands for quick journal...wow...and you are staff. Go to qj.net and look at the title bar dude....seriously! And if you truly think Joystiq and Engadget don't use the phrase "after the jump" then you don't visit those sites....ever....oh, except to get the 50% of your news posts that you simply scrape from their site (not you specifically, just this site in general).



Don't get me wrong...I love this site and I will continue to visit it multiple times daily until it fails to provide me with any information...but really, get with the program on a few little things and you could be soooooo much better!

--ZD

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# iq of 180Guest 2006-07-05 07:37
it's in the game bios for each character on the original mgs on playstation that solid snake has an IQ of 180

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# SnakeGuest 2006-07-05 14:13
Snake would win!!



#15 This is to number 15. You are a *****ing idiot! Metal Gear is not over rated, its just that good. I swear if you like Halo I will by that game just to shove it up your ass. Yes a waste of money but hey its worth the laugh. Halo is so goddamn over rated I cant even find the word. If you having nothing good to say about either Character dont *****ing post in this section!!!!!!!!

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# #96MGSROCKS1 2006-07-05 15:16
Your wrong about one thing. The Snake you play as in MGS3 is actually Naked Snake not Solid Snake. Solid Snake appears later in MGS1 and MGS2 40 years later after the events of MGS3. Solid Snake, Liquid Snake, and Solidius Snake were cloned from the Snake in MGS3.

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# WowGuest 2006-07-05 15:44
Wow, you can really tell who the MGS experts are and the MGS noobs are!!



Me=MGS Expert!!

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# solid snake v.s sam fisher, metal gear solid vs. splinter cell.Guest 2006-07-17 02:19
I'm already forgetting the paragraphs of stuff I was gonna type, so i'll keep it short. Solid Snake would beat fisher to a sensless pulp- he'd kick the sh** out of him. snake has a proper developed character, whereas sam fisher is just a one-dimensional f****** card-board cut out. MGS has a rich and twisting plot, but sc is boring crap, and not as realistic as pathetic sc fans say (eg, secret computers hidden behind wall portraits? how original...). snake is just as stealthy as fisher, but has more soldier material in him so if fishers shadow cover was blown, snake would make fisher eat his own f****** stupid goggles. Did i say this was gonna be short? I lied...(though it's not gonna be as long as i intended cos i keep forgetting sh**) so lastly (before I go off on a tangent), SC doesn't have an amazing theme tune unlike MGS- hum along- di di diiii (cool drum roll) di di di di di (cdr) di di diii, di di di di di (cdr) di di diiiiiiii di di di di di, di di di di di di di diiiiiiiiiii…! (ok I’ll shut up now……)

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# BlahGuest 2006-07-19 16:55
Prince of Persia vs Kratos or Dante??? The Prince would get raped by either one of other two.

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# metal gear solid vs. splinter cell, solid snake vs. sam fisherGuest 2006-07-21 01:18
Um- prince of persia? I was under the distinct impression that this was a discussion about solid snake (the coolest) vs. sam fisher (the three-eyed f***). so lets get on with it, and stop changing the f****** subject, it p***** me off. Good on you guys that have stuck up for solid snake and the MGS series. keep on posting stuff. Now, a couple of days after i posted my first message, i decided to play splinter cell again-it sucked the first time i played it a year ago-and guess what- it sucked again!!! splinter cell has to be the sh***** stealth game ever. As i played, it seemed that unless i was facing directly behind an enemy, i could not kill them with my fists- thats not what i call realistic! And when i shot a civilian (who was most certainly DEAD, slumped in a chair) a voice over my intercom told me 'did you know you just shot a civilian?! another mistake like that and the missions over'- what the f***?! And really, no matter how stealthy you are, a person will see you if you are right behind them, but apparently not in splinter cell where you seem to become 'invisible'. its all stupid and it sucks, so dont you sc fans go spouting more crap about splinter cell being realistic cos thats just bull****. why don't the enemies bleed when u shoot them? huh? yeah, can't answer that can you, you misgiuded SC fans?!

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# solid snake vs. sam fisher- metal gear solid vs. splinter cellGuest 2006-08-10 02:16
Hello? is anyone there? when the f*** is someone gonna post something, i bin waitin' for weeks! SOLID SANKE KICKS ASS!

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# solid snake vs. sam fisher- metal gear solid vs. splinter cellGuest 2006-08-10 02:17
Hello? when the f*** is someone gonna post something? i bin waitin for weeks now. SOLID SNAKE KICKS ASS!

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