Resistance: fall of man is the only game i need till the end of the Year. I just hope it's not only 8hrs like Gears of war.

>"Just so you know you are gloating about the first must have title for the 360 and the console has been out for a year, and next year when Halo 3 comes out you'll have 2!"



Firstly, I don't share his attitude overall (a delayed game is nothing to laugh about), but Gears of War is definately something special, especially when we see so many games fall well below their potential prior to release.



It's special because must have games are not guaranteed. Look at the PSP, it's been out for almost two years (launched Dec 2004 in Japan), and yet it STILL lacks a must have game, despite the strength of the Playstation brand. In comparison, the DS has had a number of must have 'killer apps' since launch (Nintendogs and Brain Training in particular).

... I'm just saying we shouldn't take such games for granted, because over the years we see many games with similar promise that completely fail to deliver.



Hence such games are rare.



The PS2 took 15 months from it's launch in Japan to get it's killer game in the form of GT3 A:Spec, and 20 months for it's second, MGS2.



Of course, the PS2 built upon the success of the Playstation and so gamers were willing to wait for these games just as some gamers are waiting for Halo 3 today.



BTW, GoW is played in 3rd person (like RE4), not 1st person, hence it's not a FPS, that will be Halo 3.



As for the PSP, we'll wait and see, and like your comments about GoW, I wasn't putting it down, just pointing out that killer apps are rare, no matter how good the console or how popular the brand. :)

..since that is where the PS2 made it's worldwide debut, Japan is were the console was first launched! It doesn't matter where YOU, I or any other gamer happens to live, the PS2 arrived on March 4th 2000 in Japan. Hence 15 months is how long it took for the first killer app to appear. Yes it's less for US gamers, even less for Europeon gamers, but only because of a staggered launch.



The PS3 launches tomorrow, so everything can now be measured from THAT date, not the US date next week and certainly not the European date of March next year (I live in the UK).



Besides, we were talking about 'killer app' games, and none of the games you mention fall into that category. Some great games yes, but killer apps no. It's not the same thing Spector. :)



Anyway, this is way off topic now, and the PS3 launches tomorrow, so I'll end now.



They say "The proof of the pudding is in the eating", well Japanese gamers are about to enjoy a feast. Let's hope it tastes as good as it looks.



Oh and... thanks for a good discussion. :)

What do you mean the elder scrolls games have been getting WORSE since morrowind.



1. Only Oblivion has launched (if you are going to exclude expansions).



2. What the hell? You honestly think morrowind was BETTER than oblivion? I don't think you've played oblivion.