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Ted Price: PS3 is media's "whipping boy"

Posted Jun 29, 2007 at 11:07PM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3 Tags: Insomniac Games, Sony
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Is Sony not getting a fair shake? - Image 1Ted Price, Insomniac Games' CEO, has some kind words for Sony. Seeing as the game platform hasn't been given the recognition it deserves, he's chimed in on the matter, thinking that the media has been treating the console unfairly.

His assertion? That the media has turned the PS3 into a whipping boy. He tells GameDaily,

I think the PS3 has become the whipping boy for the press, quite honestly. I think everyone just wants to fill it full of arrows because Sony's had some pretty amazing success over the years. And it's easy to overlook that it's been, I think, the fastest selling PlayStation console. I think it's human nature to want to take down the guy on top, and Sony has definitely gotten its share of... mud [laughs] ... but it's unfortunate.


On the one hand, Sony has been receiving its fair share of negative press regarding the console. However, any share of negative press is bound to have its reasons, and in the case of the PS3, the prohibitive cost of the console has led to less than stellar sales, something which the media does have to report on since it is gaming news.

Here's your chance to chime in. Has the PS3 been given an unfair share of negative press coverage? Do you think the press coverage is fair? What do you think about Ted Price's statement above?



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# hummm.Guest 2007-06-30 00:31
i absolutely think he is right...its exactly whats happening today with sony and the PS3

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# uhGuest 2007-06-30 00:41
Unfair press of course. The PS3, they dont realize, is a good price. They get more than they should for $600. i dont understand how people can call it expensive yet they seem to be spending thousands of dollars on other things that dont seem to do as much as they cost. They also dont mention that:



1. With the same equal counterparts, the 360 is more expensive than the PS3

2. PS3 has 20 exclusives coming out this year (unless MGS4 will make it, thats 21)

3. The PS3 having a blu-ray drive built in is actually good and not bad

4. They dont remember all the games on the playstation 2 that will continue on the playstation 3

5. G4TV is the only gaming channel thus the average gamer that doesnt know anything will probably watch G4 and because G4 always talks bad about the PS3, the average gamer will think the PS3 actually is bad



Things they should mention more are:

1. Uncharted Drakes Fortune has great graphics and animation

2. Socom was the biggest online console shooter and even had a userbase larger than xbox live in the summer of '03

3. The SOCOM 2 userbase was so large and so loyal, you'd think they'd come back in Socom confrontation



other things to mention

1. The PS3 is a good system and if you've bought one, you're probably happy you did

2. Stop comparing Resistance and Gears, one was made by Unreal, the other was made by insomiac, they are two totally different game companies.

3. People keep saying the PS3 has no games, like i said, look at the exclusives coming out this year

4. People keep saying the PS3 is losing exclusives, did you ever think they were never planned to be exclusives in the first place? (except devil may cry 4, i actually dont like capcom though)

5. I'd also like to mention i've never played an Xbox 360 or a wii.

6. Despite the PS3 selling well, people turn it around and make it look bad

7. If ps3 was sold out in stores, people would say PS3 cant keep up with demand, if PS3 are in stores, they say its not selling

8. Xbots are always hungry, they dont stop

9. People need to learn its more about the games than the consoles.

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# It is simple..Guest 2007-06-30 00:59
the main problem is that Sony is a japanese company



had sony been an american company,it wouldnt had suffered half the crititism it has today,in fact most of the PS3 haters come from the American media and press enviroment



why ofcourse,the best selling system in the most important and growing industry is a japanese system,how shameful



ofcourse it will be hated....must bring that japanese asian product down



the Press didnt expect the Wii to succed that much,and have praised the Wii to seem unbiased when bashing the direct competitor to 360 the PS3



the 360 had the highest failure ratio in a system ever its almost embarassing,eve n if microsoft repairs them...where is the american media from all of this ???



average americans are naive but they are not racist,however they are easily influenced and controlled by the media



in fact the Media controls everything in america,just watch miss-Clinton doing the sopranos simply to attract attention



the american media sees one thing,an american system against a japanese system and that japanese system must fall



it doesnt matter if the 360 has extreme system failure or not,its just simple economy



not to mention the role the Playstation did in popularizing the japanese culture and industry prowess,a lot of peoples entry to japan was through the playstation [not the first system to do that but certainly the most influential]



their you have it,if Sony was american the PS3 would have been considered gods gift to humans



and if microsoft was japanese you would see more talk about the red lights than the earth warming phenomeno



how sad...i used to play only thinking of the software in front of me,now its all about economy and politics even in games



whatever i say is futile,people are naive and nature allowed that for a reason



that would be all....remember to carry your countries flag while playing

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# I think it's true...Guest 2007-06-30 01:29
It's always seem strange that more than 75% of Ps3 bad press came from the US. But it's ok, I think the X360 is the best electronic device ever made by Americans, even if it's assemble in China. Yeah! better than American cars. So they got to be proud. Sure the PS3 is expensive but you pay for what you got. Not like defective x360. (caught)



Sony was right saying that PS3 is to advance for it's time. I think there's a lot of average gamers how are to dumb to use all it's media functionalities . This machine is a media BEAST. You are not only limited to download things like X360, you can put your own in it.



But in the end it's doesn't matter. Let the press say what they want, Sony will deal with them sooner or later. For my concerne, I have a PS3, E3 is coming and a lot of PS3 exclusives for fall + all X360 games except halo3 and...........................................Halo3.

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# You post faster...Guest 2007-06-30 01:42
I agree with you. Microsoft are using the same tactic Bush use to foul americans. BIG MEDIA APPARENCE!



It's not what are inside who is important it's what are outside it IS! -- USA --USA

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# stupid fanboisGuest 2007-06-30 02:25
ha-ha. idiot sony fanbois coming to sony's rescue. sony is an idiot company that doesn't thinks it's above all. everything they do shows it. from exploding batteries to proprietary formats that fail (minidisc, betamax, atrac, blu-ray), to the rootkit scandal and so on. the ps3 is another one. first they tell us that ruble was last year's technology. then after they settled with immersion, there's talks about bringing it back. then they force another unproven proprietary format down our throats. some fanboi stated that 20 exclusives are coming to the ps3 this year. what an idiot. 20 exclusives?!! the ps3 will be lucky if there's 20 games released in it's lifetime. the xbox has more exclusives already out. plus, i've played the games before they even released it to the ps3, such as rainbow six, oblivion, ect. plus the live service is much better than the free and slow sony ps store. you wouldn't know because you probably don't have an xbox.



and i'm so sick of you dolts whining about if you add up the total for the xbox add-ons, it'll be more than the ps3. no ***** sherlock, the point is that ms doesn't make you buy the hd-dvd if you don't want to. they don't force you to buy a 120gb hdd if you don't want to.



just shut-up and go play your 1 decent game on your console: r:fom



and btw, i can talk ***** about the console because i own an pswii60. the 360 is my gaming/media console, the wii is my party board game and the ps3 is just there to impress my friends and according to the sony execs, helps me flaunt my wealth to my friends.

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# PS3 - talkGuest 2007-06-30 02:53
People were upset at sony about the 600 dollar price tag.. that's where all the negative press came from. That one E3 event where they revealed the price... after that, it was the PS3 is doomed, the PS3 is overheating, then, the ps3 doesn't have any good games, the PS3 is losing exclusives, and then not to mention a system less than half its price is outselling it... but what's funny, is that the Wii is outselling the ps3, but we never hear any stores about how the Wii is out selling the 360. People talk trash about the ps3 because, they just want to justify the purchsase they probably made 'instead' of ps3. I feel better about the 600 dollar purchase, now than I ever did before... at least I know the console doesn't have a 30% failure rate, got free online, good set of games... and remember, these games, Lair, Heavenly Sword... these are still first generation launch title games...

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# Read my blog...Guest 2007-06-30 03:11
Hey, read what I wrote on my blog. Maybe some of you guys will agree with me.



http://blogs.ign.com/aerial_rave/2007/06/27/58585/

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# FunnyGuest 2007-06-30 03:14
You say Stupid Fanboys and yet your the only one I see

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# Good console - bad strategyGuest 2007-06-30 03:23
How can you say the PS3 is too expensive for a game console when the iPhone goes for the same price?



The PS3 is definitly lacking on some important fronts - the main one being game selection and exclusives. Sony has failed to create a killer game that will drive console sales.



In addition X360's one year sales advantage makes it the logical choice for game developer to also support, and even spend more resources optimising a game for the X360 compared to the PS3. It will be impossible to really judge which console has better potential before developers invest similar efforts in both.



To demonstrate the point think God-of-War. The game is a PS2 game that looks and plays way better than many next-gen games.



So Sony has to shape up. They have to get more consoles in consumer hands or get a killer-game out there. Either one (and ideally both) will solve their pain. More consoles will drive developers to invest in games, and a killer-game will provide the value that will justify the price of the console. Given the current game's release dates, the only vaiable strategy is a price drop, and the sooner the better.

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# @ skoobzGuest 2007-06-30 03:32
Sony iasn't forcing you to have any of their formats, it's you're choice if you want to buy the system or not. Second microsoft force formats, nobody says anything about that, and have read about many lawsuits from monoploisation. They are monsters, "If we casn't beat them buy them" and because there so big, if they don't want certain things on their software that company goes bankurpt, microsoft have to much power they always get it there way.

I'm quite sure that there was a replacement programme, for those batteries and it can't be worse that RROD.

So what if they want to bring back rumble so is that a BAD thing? it's only going to make the system better.



Yes there are 20 exclusives coming to the ps3 and all xbox 360 games but microsoft's first party games.

The ps3 is well worth it's price tag and the xbox 360 is worth it's, of cousre the ps3 is going to be more expensive, It has alot more features built in,

Me and alot of other people prefer the line-up of ps3 games that xbox 360's

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# Despite what people say,Guest 2007-06-30 03:38
Despite what people say to bash the PS3 all over the internet, I have friends who enjoy the 360 (and Wii) and they're impressed when I show them the stuff on the PS3. Don't let what others say bother you on the internet because I've had friends say that they want a PS3 instantly when I showed them Motorstorm and flOw (believe it or not).

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# you read my mind buddyna2rul 2007-06-30 03:50
There isn't a single point where i disagree. Well said.

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# Sony did bring most of this upon themselvesGuest 2007-06-30 03:55
Remember E3 2005?



Sony provided specs which made it seem as it the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360, when the reality is that it is only slightly more powerful overall (not enough to make much difference).



Then on top of that, they produce pre-rendered footage which was presented as realtime gameplay (Killzone being the most famous), which Sony refused to own up to being pre-rendered despite being asked, because they were for the naive to believe it was all realtime.



During this time, it was the 360 which was the media's "whipping boy", with everyone talking about how Sony stole the show with PS3 games which blew the 360 away (yes, they were still thinking of Killzone), countless articles about how the PS3 was TWICE as powerful as the 360 (because of specs which do not reflect reality), and more hype about Cell.



Sony could do no wrong, until E3 2006 when not only had the PS3 been delayed from the announced spring launch, but they had a boring press conference which failed to impress when REAL gameplay was shown, they demoed tilt control which was seen as a responce to Nintendo and then ended it with a price which although expected, was still a shock to some. And let's not mention Ken, who to be honest, was becoming a joke for Sony (thankfully he's retired now).



In otherwords, the PS3 shown at E3 2006 fell WELL BELOW the media's expectations after the promises of E3 2005.



So like I said, Sony brought this all upon themselves. They did the right thing of hyping the PS3, but they went too far, and are now suffering the backlash (which some predicted will happen).



Still, as we know, the media (and gamers) and very fickle, and once the PS3 gets into it's stride in terms of delivering great games, Hence some of those attacking the PS3 today and claiming it's a failure for Sony will be the same people in future saying how they always knew the PS3 would be a success. ;)

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# ^Couple of errors, I knowGuest 2007-06-30 04:03
But I'll correct the final paragraph because of missing text...



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Still, as we know, the media (and gamers) are very fickle, and once the PS3 gets into it's stride in terms of delivering great games, then most of the criticisms will die down. Hence some of those attacking the PS3 today and claiming it's a failure for Sony will be the same people in future saying how they always knew the PS3 would be a success. ;)

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# To resumeGuest 2007-06-30 04:07
Points already been presented above, but just to say that i can't believe some analysts have so narrow looks on things.



PS3 is getting negative review not because it did well in the past. It's mainly for it's price, definitely not for the casual gamer. It's an high en multifunction gaming machine.



Now if you leave the price aside, lets face it, the lack of good games is still hurting the sales. The games are nice looking, with good physics, but does not bring anything new to the gaming world. MotorStorm is pretty much Excite Truck with good graphics... Tony Hawk Project 8 sucks (on every console) and there isn't much game anyway.



The loss of exclusives. Not much exclusives out there for the PS3. If it's on the PS3, 95% of chances it's on the Xbox360. Since the 360 is less powerful, the best and cheapest way to do a game, is to port de Xbox360 version to the PS3, so pretty much, only the hardware will change something in the graphics.



All in all, it is a good console, but lacks any support that make it a good choice for a gamer.

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# Excuse mena2rul 2007-06-30 04:07
But the Dreamcast had exclusives and supposedly played Dead or Alive better than PS2. It didnt mean *****...........PERIOD!

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# PS2 has games stillna2rul 2007-06-30 04:14
so millions can still hold on and wait 4 the ps3 - many of my friends n

relative wont buy a nxt gen console yet....

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# ~Guest 2007-06-30 04:19
Didnt microsoft state that HDMI output and 1080p/i wasn't needed aswell ?



Lookie at what can be found at the back of your precious XBOX360 Elite.. slap me sily and call me billgates, its a HDMI output o_0

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# ...B4H4M00T 2007-06-30 04:20
amen

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# Smooth production + price drop comingdamonous 2007-06-30 04:55
Mentalboy11, I agree completely with your comments (and I also own a 360). The good thing is, that I think with this announcement, it can be fairly well expected that a PS3 price-cut is around the corner (my guess is they'll really surprise everyone and drop $200 around August when Lair comes out). That would then lay to rest the only relevant perceived negative about the PS3: price. Although, you are certainly correct that once MS is done nickel-and-dime-ing you with the 360, you're way over the current price of a PS3.

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# MicrosoftGuest 2007-06-30 05:09
The loss of exclusive title for PS3,show that Microsoft is afraid.If all the title supposed to be exclusive to PS3(Devil May Cry 4,GTAIV,maybe RE5...)would remain exclusive,Xbox 360 could not competed.I know that it is not capcom and rockstar which is to go to the front of Microsoft.

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# ummGuest 2007-06-30 05:25
every game console "forces" a format on you....

psp forces UMDs, DS forces those cartridges, the 360 and wii force dvd's and the ps3 forces blu-ray.

Its not forcing, its using the technology of choice. Sony decides to use blu-ray as microsoft decides to use dvd.

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# ps3=worth itGuest 2007-06-30 05:48
This comment is for those who do not own a ps3 and are looking to buy one.Be advised I have all the next gen systems.

The ps3 is truly the system to get.If you would analyze everything you get for $625 including tax you would really appreciate what sony has done with this system.Blue ray=$900.psone=$50.ps2=$129.99.ps3system next gen=cell technology(4 years $400 million dollars for IBM and sony to develop).WiFi included.Bluetooth included.Sixaxis controller=$50.Supports all dvd formats and upscales them.Supports all cd formats.Is accessable with the psp.Free internet access.Assisting with cancer research=priceless.Compatible with several types of memory cards.Usb connection.Hard drive.I also might note that the system uses the latest technology for all its buttons and internals.The system has hardly any hardware defects yet to be reported.The actual price of the system has been noted to be $850.If you look at these numbers and do the math you can see the ps3 is well worth it and still has lots of untapped power that true developers can notice and are willing to sacrifice some time to learn and appreciate the true future of gaming.The ps3 is all you need in your living room.I love 360 as well but when it comes to what you are actually getting the 360 would come out to be around $860 if you were to include said items the ps3 has.

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# as a reminderGuest 2007-06-30 05:54
I would rather have a ps3 for $600 than buy a phone for $600(I-phone)

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# damnGuest 2007-06-30 06:31
ain't that the truth, we all know bush is a drunk too...

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# @titoGuest 2007-06-30 06:35
second that. Have you seen the prices of some of the Sprint/Nextel Phones? *****in crazy!!!!

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# Well...Guest 2007-06-30 06:55
PS3 has been attacked non stop even when there are good news, I mean when Home got announced everyone focused on the bad (SL clone) when Warhawk became multiplayer only (bad game because it's only multi - shadowrun anyone?-) Re Inclusion of rumble (everyone wanted it and when Sony said you'll get it everyone said it wasn't a good idea), the people are so scared that the investment they made on 360 could blow up in their faces if Ps3 succeeds that they tend to spin the news in a bad light all the time, and with min E3 coming, even if they announce a 100 dollar cut and 70 exclusives the press will find a way to spin it so that only the bad will be given the spotlight.



That's shoddy reporting, mostly because bloggers are not real reporters and tend to be biased. The real reporters still say that the so called console wars are still anyones game. But the toy reporters are quick to point out a lost exclusive as doom for Ps3 and will take advantage of their position as blog reporters to instill their skewed views onto the readers.

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# use of force lukeGuest 2007-06-30 08:03
keep in mind you actually save about $200 with a ps3 purchase as opposed to having to spend an extra $500 on a 360 to match the capabilities and options of a ps3.the 360 is actually worth about $360(labor and parts)ps3+$850(labor and parts)Sony is now a charity organization and folding is just another example of that.the 360 has gone to the dark side with the elite being black.

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# Agreed!Guest 2007-06-30 08:29
Well said. People tend to forget all that happened which led to this situation between the media and Sony. I don't like it, but you're right, Sony brought this upon themselves but should be able to bring themselves out of it.

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# I think SimplyPut said it correctly above.Guest 2007-06-30 08:32
This is mostly Sony's fault, but it should change soon as more games are released (especially the 'big' games we're waiting for).

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# ps3Guest 2007-06-30 08:56
I have both I know the 360 in my experience is the better machine but the media sucks.

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# Vary Well SaidGuest 2007-06-30 09:22
Great Point

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# finally....AuDioFreaK39 2007-06-30 09:35
someone who i can agree with

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# I agree with you and your reasons (Even though I watch G4TV a lot lol)Guest 2007-06-30 09:42
I've played all next-gen consoles and believe that they all have their own unique strengths, as well as weaknesses, but I prefer the PS3 over the other two. Besides, I have faith in Sony, they know what they're doing, but that doesn't mean the public has to know everything being planned behind the scenes.

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# I'm fine with mine (PS3)Guest 2007-06-30 09:56
I'm satisfied with my PS3, it gets warm but has never overheated (I leave it on during the night, running folding at home). I'm really looking forward to the PS3's exclusive lineup, and hope that they all bring mass profit to the developers and Sony. Besides, it's not the consoles that you should necessarily worry about, it's the games that you can play on your chosen console (or consoles).

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# ..Guest 2007-06-30 10:02
flow was the worst thing ive ever played

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# re:Guest 2007-06-30 11:05
"However, any share of negative press is bound to have its reasons, and in the case of the PS3, the prohibitive cost of the console has led to less than stellar sales, something which the media does have to report on since it is gaming news."



Reporting on it is one thing--dwelling on it is another.



I think Ted Price made a fair assessment. Some criticism of the PS3 is fair--poor launch games, high price point--but much of it isn't. Many people in the gaming news media were annoyed by a percieved arrogance in Sony's release of the PS3, and are taking advantage of its slow start by dwelling on the negative. These types of biases are very obvious.

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# NiceGuest 2007-06-30 11:07
He, man, nice read. You make some good points.

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# YeahGuest 2007-06-30 11:34
Exactly.



You know the saying "Never kick a man when he's down" Sony's been down since e3'06 but people seem to just want to kick them even harder. Every single insignificant thing that happens to Sony whether related to gaming or not gets blown out of proportion as something negative to the PS3.

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# You're ignorantGuest 2007-06-30 11:59
You must know, the PS3 is the worst console of this generation. Get the ***** over it.

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# Mister is here!Guest 2007-06-30 12:09
Sounds like another PS3 owner trying to justify spending $600/£425 on a games console without games. PS3=Waste of time, money and logic.

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# why tryXman 2007-06-30 12:22
the ps3 was too over hyped, thats why the press shot them down!! for example meeting a girl online and then seeing her in real life!! she will tell you that she is cute and all, and you get all hyped just to see that she is by far the uglyest woman you've ever seen!! you will most likely talk trash about her to your friends!! well that ugly girl is the ps3!!

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# ....Guest 2007-06-30 12:56
While i do agree with you to an extent you can't deny the fact its just bash SONY year(s) lately no matter what. MS deleted an entire thread about 360 failures trying to cover it up and it passes by quickly enough. MS deserve as much criticism as SONY for poor quality hardware and doing nothing about it but people still bash SONY. had it been SONY with the bull***** hardware people would be sending death threats to Kaz by now

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# lolGuest 2007-06-30 14:33
Fanboys make me laugh.

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# NOGuest 2007-06-30 15:03
they gave the ps3 negative press. Lets calculate something.

Playstation 1 has made 105.6 million consoles sold worldwide.

Playstation 2 has made 115+ millions consoles sold.

Given that The ps3 is just in a tiny slump. Remember xbox also had a slump during its 6 months released. Also may ii add that MS consoles has been malfunction left and right you would think they would be losing mone y cause of this.



I hope they fix the problem or MS could be in some future ho*****er.

Now we all know ps3 has some good games lined up in july so that could start the ps3 sales. Games like NGS are looking very good.



PS3 technology is so advance that it wont be obsolete for 10 years. They need to get passed the slow start. I dont see any problems for sony onther than price and games which wont be a problem now. So yea its unjust and They should wait b4 making wild predictions.

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# to WinnerGuest 2007-06-30 15:33
Are you on crack. And i'm assuming your a xbox fanboy then let me say what i said b4.

Not only has the ps3 technology beat the xbox360 to a pulp, it also works without Internal hardware problems. How many consoles are you on 4. But you wont admit to that being a failure cause your loyal to MS.



Well Lets see MS is a rookie in the gaming world compared to the Nintendo and Sony. They have more experience than MS can count. Not to mention the only thing good about Xbox is XBL, Though you paying a monthly or yearly fee. Which i hope your happy paying loads of money

Also $50 a year, $13 for three months or $8 a month is all well and good, concidering the fact everyhting else is highway robbery.



Face if you add every add on MS has and the optional HD-DVD drive you pay just as much if not more than what the ps3 cost. So your getting screwed by MS. The biggest money grubbing company in the world.



Also if you read what mentalboy11 and what i said above him you can clearly see Sony has the advantage here. With good games coming out. Oh don't forget Agency which would wipe the floor to your only system seller halo 3. The price is nothing. But i guess you wont admit to your company failures that you feel its necessary to come to the ps3 forums and start bashing it.



Where is Mister common sense, im surprised That fanboy hasn't showed up to flapping his big beaked mouth.



With all the garbage your sprouting out, it just goes to show you your ignorance level on gaming. Next time look up stats if not stuff about MS.



Oh and lets not forget that wonderful news about Sony ps3 controller to feature Touchsense, which this im sure the combo of six-sense tilting would put a big smirk on the ppl who knows facts. BTW b4 you chime in with that lawsuit it didnt say touchsense it said rumble. Which touchsense is the new technology on the block

I dont are what type of Touchsense fetures you have. The Touchsense for us will be built directly with our Six-axis controllers. Imagine 2 powerhouse potential features on a controller that will make ppl shocked how good it is.



But i don't think Facts are in your nature. PPl like you come in to trash talk a system. You have your system forums stay out of ours.

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# WTF ANother ignorant fanboyGuest 2007-06-30 15:49
Come on get the hell out of our forums. The sign didnt read all fanboys allowed. We dislike Xbox fanboys. Especially for them praising the xbox console and then decided to go to another forum. Read about to what i said about Winner he's just like you.



Your system is High way robbery And XBL may have cool features its definitely not cheap. Though I wouldnt want a console who had more than 2,000 + shipped back and fourth to get repairs.



Oh and BTW how was the the exploding xbox;s. Im pretty sure your on your 5th xbox by now.



Shame if only MS didnt rush there big failure of a system You might be winning, But you not.

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# stop trying.Guest 2007-06-30 15:59
mister common sense is registered. Also, his comments are usually more idiotic than yours.



btw, how does one waste logic?

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# LOLGuest 2007-06-30 16:02
Im pretty sure not him since he actually has an account but nontheless i will acomment.



Here is Mister common sense opening his big xbox fanboy beak. To make stupid comments about the ps3.



Which he is probably mad for his failure of the xbox consoles. Lets face any gamer would. If you have to send back your console more tan 2 a lifetime than the company and the console are failure, rushed systems.

Not to mention all of the add ons is highway robbery.

I wouldn't talk about logic since you show known any any given time. But hey when a console that has Advance technology that the xbox can't fathom then yea your jealous. But again admit your console is a failure and move on.



Oh and remember the first step is denial until you get to the 5th step which is acceptance.

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# LOLGuest 2007-06-30 16:06
Which ones the xbox winners or the wii gloater's.



Cause if you ask me There pathetic and has no lives. They are on here more than they are on there own forum. Thats like going to someone house and living there when its not your house.



Im pretty sure the sign says no fanboys especially box and wii in the ps3 forums.

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# dude...Morbidly 2007-06-30 16:42
omg dude, thats like a little more into your personal experiences i ever really wanted to go...

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# Its trueGuest 2007-06-30 18:06
The constant insults being thrown at the PS3 are beyond reason. All we hear is negative bull ***** left and right. Where are the compliments? No where. For so many people happily own a PS3, there is obviously good in it. So where is all this bull***** coming from? It's freaking ridiculous.

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# 2 anonymeGuest 2007-06-30 18:18
the decision to make exclusive games multi-platform is also the dev. they need an high audience to buy their game which ps3 do not have compared 2 the 360

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# Hey i agreeGuest 2007-06-30 18:26
Im on the xbox fanboy troll alert. And wii's if i find any. Look for my name, i said great reasons why they ps3 is great. Aside from Price. im also astounded BY this media BS i mean the fact is there is nothing wrong with the ps3, sure its a somewhat pricey but with the stuff your getting i dont mind. And the games well like i also said this most of the thread good games like NGS and at one point Agency will show up and help it out. The media sucks and i hope they get banned for saying trash looked what happened to a perfectly good game called manhunt 2. Its unbelieveable, what never of them

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# whyGuest 2007-06-30 19:43
WHY ARE YOU GUYS WRITING ESSAYS, sheesh, I'm not readin that

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# whats your problemGuest 2007-06-30 20:09
Again whats your problem, some are getting rid of the xbox wii trolls in these message boards.



And others are giving details opn why the ps3 is a great console.

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# PS3 isGuest 2007-06-30 21:05
ps3 is selling almost equal toolbox360 in america but in region of asia and europe ps3 is killing xbox360 now that is the truth i know xbots dosent wanna hear this

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# ha-ha. idiot idiot xbotsGuest 2007-06-30 21:24
ha-ha. idiot xbots coming to shiitbox rescue microsoft is an idiot company that doesn't thinks it's above all. everything they do shows it from exploding xbox360s to formats that fail like hddvd and so on the xpot360 is another one on which we do shiiit every day in morning first they stole dualshock technology from ps2 then now they say that this tech is exclusive to them man put a xpot360 remote in your aasss xpot360 will be lucky if it survives for 3 to 4 years or other wise all americans will put xbox360 in the asss of billgates with its red light of death which will then come out from his mouth now lets seee about exclusives xpot 360 has exclusives that no one plays and thts why only three or four games are meant to be called as exclusives and i'm so sick of you dolts just shut-up and go play your 1 decent game on your console gow

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# my 2 centGuest 2007-06-30 22:55
To be honest i do not recommend anyone getting a PS3 at the moment.



I own a Xbox360 and PS3 and xbox, (sold my ps2 and GC) and a PC of course.



So basically when i got the ps3 i was happy that i could sell everything else and use the PS3 for gaming and media playback and all of that but the truth is there is no game that intresst me right now (Ninja gaiden and darkness almost comming to Sweden next week so thoese are intressting but still not out here) so i dont own a single game and with so much hassle installing linux and VLC/mplayer and trying all the trancode software i gave up on the media playback also.



The truth is xbox1 is the best media center there is (with XBMC) and Xbox360 has much much better games out (Gears of war, lost planet etc..) so the complain about PS3 are all fair i think.



PS3 can be the best console out there, it has the potential (HDMI, Blueray, quiet, WLAN,powerful hardware etc..) but it just dont dont do what it should be doing at the moment.



Sony: please unlease the power and put native support for ALL media types and you shall get so much positive feedback :D

Some nice games wont heart neither hehe

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# simplyputs post was simply put :)Guest 2007-07-01 00:42
i'll cut and paste simplys post here, cause he said everything i wanted to say (with one correction to, i'm sure he wont mind)



start-------



Sony did bring most of this upon themselves



Remember E3 2005?



Sony provided specs which made it seem as it the PS3 was twice as powerful as the 360, when the reality is that it is only slightly more powerful overall (not enough to make much difference).



Then on top of that, they produce pre-rendered footage which was presented as realtime gameplay (Killzone being the most famous), which Sony refused to own up to being pre-rendered despite being asked, because they were there for the naive to believe it was all realtime.



During this time, it was the 360 which was the media's "whipping boy", with everyone talking about how Sony stole the show with PS3 games which blew the 360 away (yes, they were still thinking of Killzone), countless articles about how the PS3 was TWICE as powerful as the 360 (because of specs which do not reflect reality), and more hype about Cell.



Sony could do no wrong, until E3 2006 when not only had the PS3 been delayed from the announced spring launch, but they had a boring press conference which failed to impress when REAL gameplay was shown, they demoed tilt control which was seen as a responce to Nintendo and then ended it with a price which although expected, was still a shock to some. And let's not mention Ken, who to be honest, was becoming a joke for Sony (thankfully he's retired now).



In otherwords, the PS3 shown at E3 2006 fell WELL BELOW the media's expectations after the promises of E3 2005.



So like I said, Sony brought this all upon themselves. They did the right thing of hyping the PS3, but they went too far, and are now suffering the backlash (which some predicted will happen).



Still, as we know, the media (and gamers) are very fickle, and once the PS3 gets into it's stride in terms of delivering great games, then most of the criticisms will die down. Hence some of those attacking the PS3 today and claiming it's a failure for Sony will be the same people in future saying how they always knew the PS3 would be a success. ;)



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# ..Guest 2007-07-01 03:20
"

the ps3 was too over hyped, thats why the press shot them down!!"





the press shot it down because the 360 is american, thats the biggest reason for its success.. its american, a country thats home to some of the most loudest, obnoxious and over patriotic people in the world



a country of few other successful countries main stream culture follows to an un-healthy extent (uk, aus)



that or its all internet hype, because tbh I know 2 people that wanted a 360, one sold it for a ps3 the other just got it back after 3 months of repair, nearly everyone is intrested in the ps3

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# On G4TVGuest 2007-07-01 03:31
X-Play recently had an episode in which every single game had a 5/5. The games? Resistance (PS3), Oblivion (PS3, 360), Okami (PS2), and FF XII (PS2). So thats Sony, Sony/MS, Sony, and Sony... and people are saying the PS3 has bad games???

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# i agree but........Guest 2007-07-01 03:42
Sony would honestly be nothing without microsoft escpecially when half the games made and systems designed our made from computers.....com-pu-ters. You say the gaming is growing to be the most important industry and on a note i do agree with you. But i take one to get two. You cant say sony has made all its sucess on their own can you? Even being japanese their still need american help just as we need japanese helps. I understand what youre saying but i honestly dont agree becasue i have played both systems and the both rely on alot of thing in order to make it what it is.

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# funnny to meGuest 2007-07-01 05:22
M$ has always had bad E3's, see every year. Every commercial or "trailer" for xbox games rarely show any gameplay. Xbox said the 360 would ude hd-dvd, does it, not really. They have admitted on their own site they are trying to fix "hardware issues" - that means "Ooops our product is trash. BUt I see why everyone bashes Sony,lol

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# ?Guest 2007-07-01 05:27
How do you make it through the articles? Or are you like the xbots who make comments on the titles.

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# .Guest 2007-07-01 05:30
I have a 360, know everything a PS3 can do, and am not the least bit impressed by what it can do.



It is not worth $600. If I want high tech, I'll get that $600 iPhone.

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# spot onGuest 2007-07-01 06:49
I couldn't agree more with u. I have thought all those thoughts about Microsoft b4 apart from the how they "borrow" ideas thats new 2 me and it sort of seems like the xbox360 is just a souped up ps2. It just proves how Sony are in it for the love of the game and how Microsoft are in it for the love of cash.

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# Hot!Guest 2007-07-01 11:12
He speaks alot of sence and yeah, its the trendy thing to do on the internet is just find way to hate on Sony and PS.

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# @Ravena2rul 2007-07-01 12:14
Very convincing points in ur blod actualy. Microsoft mimic others is a gd way of putting it. They never lead, only follow.

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# Hey Mister common senseGuest 2007-07-01 18:38
I was wondering when you will show up. BTW some guy has been inpersonating you i gave the heat about it.

Personally i don't know why there focusing it more on the PS3. I did say both have there share of problems. As a gamer i hope they fix it.



How was your weekend. LOL

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# to: some one you dont knowGuest 2007-07-01 18:48
Are you on crack.

The PS1 has over 105.6 million consoles sold worldwide excluding the games sold. And your telling me Sony would be nothing without MS.



It just goes to show your ignorance level. SOny was around making games B4 MS joined in SO really if it wasnt for sony MS would not be where they are in the gaming world.And since you brought up PC thats and online is the only thing MS has going for them.



BTW how do you know Sony doesnt use Apple or MAC Computers seeming how MAC was b4 PC and windows. So basically your talking out of your rear here.

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# To mister common senseGuest 2007-07-01 19:01
Again your ignorance is big. i will end off by saying, you are the weakest link good by.

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# to Mister Common SenseGuest 2007-07-01 19:09
Like i said that wasn't you. and i was talking to the impersonator.



Oh im sorry how is Headset a need. Its an add-on. And since it comes with it, i wont add it on the other highway robbery parts.

very add on is highway robbery. List all the add ons that you have to pay extra(optional) and see how much you spend not including the system. Add all of the optional and xbox system its over 600+ bucks. Like the HD-DVD is a big factor.



I would but in the past you just been shown as a big Xbox fanboy and bashes the ps3 like the media.

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# to datnizzleGuest 2007-07-01 19:18
um i only see the interesting topics and articles.

And when i post on them(which not all) i see the xbox wii fanboys rant and rave on the ps3 forums. And i comment back with logic.



However datnizzle is a registered user so can you please stop taking his name thanks.

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# Dumbass VincentGuest 2007-07-02 00:46
DVD was already well established before XBOX.



$ony used the PS3 to establish blu gay as a movie format which was previously non-existant. Just like with UMD.



My god you are stupid to think that's the same thing.

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# lol good stuffGuest 2007-07-05 06:29
Nice i love it. Question where did you come up with those points.

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