"despite being having the least numbers generated in sales. "



That sort of comment makes me laugh.

for example the wii has sold the most but you'd likely get crap sales on certain games that'll do well on the other two.



the 360 is about 9 million ahead of the ps3 but the ps3 has about 20mill (Im told)

thats not that much of a difference considering how many 360's have broken and been replaced (I know a few people that own three 360's through breaking and just buying the elite cos it was new) Im sure they're not alone and most people I know own ps3, none have more than one)

on top of that I read that most 360's were sold in america (surprise surprise!) so the rest of the world is more balanced between the two.

But there's really no reason why it should look worse. Different perhaps, but not necessarily worse.

What I see is a song and dance explaining that if this game flops, rockstar wont have lost as much money releasing it on a system with a smaller install base..





I could be wrong, But this game doesnt seem to have a lot of faith invested in it,, Not enough to interest me, the consumer...

The new MGS is going to be on PSP so of course it won't look as good as th PS3 version. But as a PSP game, it should look mighty fine.

What about GTA IV DLC?

Why hasn't the PS3 gotten it?

"Feder also expressed his confidence in the PS3 despite being having the least numbers generated in sales"



Sales for what? the console itself or previous games?



I for one just think it's because they're just looked at the big picture and saw PS3 to be more profitable as it's nay hackable (yet, please keep that streak up sony) where as if they go multi with 360, a certain percentage of the game would probably be involved with piracy and development cost would again sore through the roof.

My 2001 PS2 still works fine. The disc error is like less then 1% where the RROD is around 10-20%. That is a big different. Agent is trying to be like the first GTA, a fresh new franchise born from the PS.

it'll come

what sony is doing is helping make a new ip, rockstar might have not even made this game if they didn't have that support from sony, where as microsoft is taking content away from ps3 owners, they see theirs plans for dlc for gta 4 and then they go and pay money to take it from ps3 owners. the difference is sony is making something, and microsoft is taking something

But even if people hacked the PS3, how many PS3 games could you possibly store on the hard drive. Barring the multi-platform ones, most exclusive games are 15-50 GB big. Even if you hooked up a big hdd to it, those games would eat it up. Burning the games would still be fairly expensive seeing as blank blu rays aren't all that cheap yet. I'm not a huge hacker or anything, so I probably don't have all my facts straight, these are just my two cents. And also, I think this move towards exclusivity either means Sony cut a check(shoulda done this for FF games), or it's hinting at an impending price cut, which would draw the favor of many devs.

I'd be lmfao if the game don't sell so well and R* comes crawling back to M$.

The point I'm making is that fanboys used the DRE problem as an excuse to suggest PS2 sales were due to gamers re-purchasing a PS2. Fact, even though it was not true.



How severe the problem was is NOT THE POINT. It was an issue which effected enough of the PS2s (original model especially) to become a well known problem. Hence FAQs all over the net about it, eg;



http://www.tweak3d.net/articles/ps2repair/



Yes, most of the time there was a solution (not always, but most), but that didn't stop all the nonsense coming from fanboys about PS2 sales.



That claim still continues, look here from 2007, I could probably find one from this year if I tried;



http://www.afterdawn.com/news/archive/11594.cfm



Some guy called Riotard says "Thign is atleast every ps2 owner must have had to rebuy, because i mean everyone i know has got the disc read error, so its therefore like 60million actually, because sony failed to make a consol that will last long enough. Yes i no 360's die even quicker, still my mega drive works fine, so does my n64, the best game consol should hardly ever break!"



See what I'm talking about?



So the suggestion that 360 sales are also due to a significant portion being re-purchased by gamers is also rubbish.



I would even use the argument I used last gen about the PS2, which is.... lets say it's true that gamers are rebuying a PS2 because of the DRE problem, then so what, a sale is a sale is a sale! If the product is good enough for gamers to be willing to buy another one (even though a repair would usually be cheaper), then who are we to complain?



One final point, anyone rebuying a console are not going to be rebuying all the games as well, since they will work on the new console! "Well duh, what's your point Jez?" I hear you ask. Well, if you take one gamer, and he has 8 games for his console, then the attach rate is 8. If he buys the same console again, then he will now have two consoles for those 8 games, making the attach rate only 4. Hence the attach rate will DROP if a significant portion of gamers are buying 2nd or 3rd 360s. But the fact is, in all regions, the 360 has the highest attach rate (including Japan to my surprise!!!);



http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/04/13/xbox_360_attach_rates/



Therefore proving that rebuys are NOT responsible for a significant portion of 360 sales.



That's it. Me done now.

he was talking about Metal Gear Solid Rising, which is on 360 and PS3.



And optima, I can't guarantee that lol, apparently no one who worked on MGS4 is working on rising, so we'll see what happens.



As long as it isn't another "Snake's Revenge" I'll be happy.

I wouldn't pass them to make this timed exclusive. but not like I care, I have a PS3 and probably play this when more info comes out.

You are correct...even if PS3 is hacked it would be a ***** to get games on it.



You would no doubt need to burn the games...which like you said you need expensive blank blu-rays (even more expensive if they are double layered) also you would need a dual layer blu-ray burner...not cheap. Then you have to actually download the 15-50 gig files....not good on the monthly bandwidth limit. I have 100gigs a month, which is fairly high for most providers...that could be gone really fast.

You fail!

You have proof that you got a 360? Gamertag? I have both consoles and I state my opinion about each consoles. You on the other hand thinks you know it all and bash the 360 with what you called "facts" but its all based on your opinion or the others. So don't tell me I spread false statements about the PS3 when I was merely stating my own opinion. Stop calling people fanboys when you're obviously a fanboy yourself.

My hats off to you. A well written, well informed response, and you even game links to support your talk. And you did all of that without slamming one console or the other. It's rare to see someone put that kind of thought in to a simple video game debate. Kudos.

Ps3 fails and heres why



http://www.healthmad.com/Healthcare-Industry/Euthanasia.757251

Thanks Echo307 :)

Think that the game being 360 exclusive would benefit cause it's cheaper to make money, you'll save money but you'll also gain more with the install base.