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Square Enix stock shares rise after FF13 Xbox 360 reveal

Posted Jul 15, 2008 at 4:17AM EST by QJ Staff

Listed in: PS3, Xbox 360 Tags: Japan, Microsoft, Square Enix
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PS3 - Xbox 360 - Final Fantasy XIII - Square Enix - Image 1


Most of us must still be reeling in utter shock after Square Enix's announcement yesterday that Final Fantasy XIII - previously known as a PS3-exclusive - will now also be heading to the Xbox 360. Though many are quick to give an outcry, investors seem to be welcoming the cross-platform announcement with open arms (and open wallets).

When the stock market in Japan closed yesterday, stock shares for Square Enix got a substantial spike and got a 5.2% gain, closing at JPÂ¥ 3,250 (US$ 31) in the Tokyo Stock Exchange. This is the biggest gain Square Enix has had since May 22.

What some of you might find weird about this is that Square Enix's upward movement in the Tokyo Stock Exchange happened at all, since it's been confirmed that FF13 will not arrive on the Xbox 360 for Japan. Though that may be the case, consider that the stock market isn't wholly dependent on console wars and the dictates of exclusivity politics. Investors view the stock market from a financial perspective.



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# greeeeeeaaaattt tttdeath 2008-07-15 05:42
now ff13 will be as ***** as gta 4. damm low capacity xbox dvds!!



however this does rove that companies are willing to sacrifice quality for quantity (sold) ....................can you truly blame them

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# FFXIII Just Lost Its LusterNine_Masquerade 2008-07-15 05:46
Square Enix are a bunch of sell outs. Next thing you know Kingdom Hearts will be coming to the 360. At least we're getting BioShock... I was hoping this would be the next killer PS3 exclusive. Guess not. Vs better be good though...(sigh)

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# Xbox dvdsUgly-Wan 2008-07-15 05:57
i hope instead of losing quality they make the xbox one on 2+ discs but they haven't done that since the PS1 but it could happen

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# Well....romeomafia 2008-07-15 06:04
I wouldn't care if it's coming out in Xbox, as long as it comes out in the PS3. Reason I say this is because I'm a fan of FF series, but at this day and age, if you going to make a game for both systems, make ALL for both systems, I don't want to buy a Xbox just to play Star Ocean or infinite undiscovery etc, Just make all the games for both systems, I don't need 2 systems in my house......Let's see the fate of Kingdom Hearts and FFXIII Versus....



At the rate the PS3 is going is getting ports that are already played in the xbox360 or getting game launches after the 360...



Reason I won't buy a 360 is only because of the 16% Red Ring of Death, seriously thats a high %, the ps3 may freeze but just turn it off and back on, and your set. If they can fix that..



I'll buy a 360, cheers everyone.

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# wowUplink 2008-07-15 06:06
SE Sellouts this game is gonna suck now :-\

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# they are...BTR711 2008-07-15 06:12
going to sell it on the 360. witch is smart. but what they dont understand is that most 360 owners dont like these types of games. i mean after all theres only 10 people wanting this game on the 360. i think its a waste of time and money sending it to the 360. but hey iv only taken tons of business classes -.-



i hope this game will just completely fail. though i do love these games we need to show these game companies that we want this game for XXX system and not with its competitors

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# Lmaoromeomafia 2008-07-15 06:12
Money talks...I would be cracking up and not surprised if it was going to be for the Wii. LOL



Since they said they made the 360 move based on how many is sold in US.



Imagine the Wii.......lmao



I'm a HD geek, no wii wii for me.....

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# Eh?BananaFish 2008-07-15 06:32
What about Lost Odyssey and Forza 2?

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!ISOHaven 2008-07-15 06:37
I wouldn't worry about FF13 for PS3 being degraded. Most of the work is already done. They aren't going to go back to the drawing board over this. There will certainly be two completely different development tracks.



This is going to be rather interesting. Many people have their own THEORIES about 360 versus PS3. For example, BD is great for more space but they only need it because they are wasting space for faster load times. Pure logic debunks that one. If that was the case then they could just use DVD9. But it'll be fun to finally stomp all these 360 kiddies into the ground once and for all.



I wouldn't doubt it if this move was done solely to END the VERSUS wars once and for all. This will be a true test as to what can and can not be done on which console. If the 360 can EQUAL the PS3 version on DVD9 then everyone has no choice but to admit the consoles are equal.

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# same here dudeApeaggedon 2008-07-15 06:49
i have to have HD everything: tv,mac HD streaming,shows , and of course blu-ray movies...

-Think about this-

like 70-80% of 360 owners dont even own a hi-def TV or have one and dont know how to use it.(everyone I know that has a 360 hasNO HD tv's). but as for ps3 owners... 90% of them HAVE HDtv's and know how to use em along with blu-ray,SO my point is that wen ff13 comes out 4 the 360 owners,people are most likley gunna be playing it in SD witch puts the quality and experience to poop,so no matter wut,us ps3 owners will get the full experience.



PLUS i dont think alot (if any) of 360 owners really cared at all about ff13 being ported to their system. but Wutever,Sqeenix sux now and if they port kingdom hearts to 360,im allmost positive the will get Disowned by ALL (not some) but ALL of their fans and will forever be hated and most likely burned to the ground. :) ef you *****enix.

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# ^totally agreelavino 2008-07-15 07:35
I am way more looking forward to Gears2. If FF wasn't enough to swing me from buying a PS3 in the first place it doesn't mean much to me. But having that said I am sure there are many who welcome the FF on 360. Hey, more choices and everyone is happy (except for you sony fanboys screaming for sellout) why the heck not? On the other hand, if they said Gears2 is gonna go to PS3 I don't care either as long as they release it for 360.

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# cry babieswilmheath 2008-07-15 08:09
Man you fanboys are the biggest bunch of whiners i've ever seen. Your stupid gta4 came out on xbox and guess what.. it outsold the ps3 version. I hope halo4 comes out on ps3 and mario on all 3 systems. I'm so tired of exclusives and they help fuel the fanboy fire. Go get a nice PC if you want to do some real gaming.

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# .roca 2008-07-15 08:50
lolwut

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# wow it outsold the ps3 version REALLY?death 2008-07-15 09:51
with twice the american install base i WONDER why ....... dumbass the fanboys are pissed because gta4 was limited to fit on dvd9 ...... it could have been 1/2 as epic as mgs4 if it was ps3 exclusive

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# You forgot one... XDKaneco 2008-07-15 10:40
Gamecube was the latest most modern

console which supported two disc games.



EX: Resident Evil 0, Resident Evil Remake, Resident Evil 4, Tales of Symphonia, Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes, etc.

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# PS3 FanboyC0ns0Lo 2008-07-15 11:26
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# ...[DVSDevise] 2008-07-15 11:55
Sony owns 9 percent of square so they actually made money off the annoucement of FF13 for the 360. Hah!

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!ISOHaven 2008-07-15 12:54
"For example, BD is great for more space but they only need it because they are wasting space for faster load times. Pure logic debunks that one. If that was the case then they could just use DVD9."



"SOME space on blu ray is wasted for duplicate data to make loading times faster."

What's your point? These are not my theories. Go cry at those that believe such things.



"The PS3 only runs PS3 games on blu ray discs. Everything else is run as DVD, PS2, PS1, whatever is detected. A PS3 game CANNOT be released on a non blu-ray disc due to copy protection. You know the drill, YOU FAIL."

What exactly did I fail at? I didn't address anything you mentioned here? Are you dreaming in douche land again? Oh, I get it, you FAILED you understand anything I said in my post. HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! !! In regards to DVD9 that decision would have been made during the DEVELOPMENT of the PS3. Gees dude, give up already. A 4 year old can best you.



Oh man...you need to either give up or grow up.



"Sure, the XBOX 360 version will be more than one disc. Was that a problem on the PS1?"

Who said it was a problem? Learn to read moron.



"The trade off is no required HDD installs, sometimes taking 4GB or more."

HAHAHAHA!!!!!!! ! You are such an idiot. What exactly is the problem with HDD installs? Seeing as how MS is opening up the 360 to FULL GAME INSTALLS.



You don't even have a full understanding with what is going on with your own 360. You are lame at best.



"WHO CARES????"

Do you seriously need an answer to this dumb question?

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# ...oh great :@Beansta 2008-07-15 14:11
see...i don't get why every *****er argues just because a game comes out on a different system!!! its a damn computer game for crying out loud. alright it may be a good game franchise (my personal fav FF7) but there's no need 2 go pissing ur pants everytime a company says they want to release the same game on another system.



back on subject: i think ill be picking up the ps3 version since my 360 sits in a box at home due to RROD.

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# PSPmr.x256 2008-07-15 14:25
PSP has actually had a game or two which came on 2 UMDs, I remember reading this in a forum some months back!

Remember the days of PSOne? I think Wing Comander 4 came on 4 Discs, thats a posibility of 2.8 GBs of data for PS One compared to N64s 64MB. Ah Good Times.

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# -mr.x256 2008-07-15 14:29
PlayStation will always have Gran Turismo, Just like Nintendo will always have mario.

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# -mr.x256 2008-07-15 14:33
Ace Combat 6 was another game that would have done really well if Namco only did a PS3 release, but maybe now they'll see.

Some games only sell well on one console.

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# -mr.x256 2008-07-15 14:37
I agree with your PS3 and HD point, I too have seen this be the case so many times, hell I wouldn't have bought an Full HD TV if it wasn't for PS3.

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# -mr.x256 2008-07-15 14:45
I would like to say that you can further speedup PS3 loading time by purchasing a 7200RPM harddrive if you are planing on geting a bigger one. It can take in some titles more than 10 seconds out of loading times.

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# I see why they get pissedmr.x256 2008-07-15 14:53
Imagine that microsoft release their new console and you hear that halo 4 is comming out and you really want it.

Naturally you'd think it'll only be on xbox, so you go out and buy the new xbox only to find out that Halo4 is going to be on PS3, now you're pissed of you wasted you money and the game is nolonger where it belongs.

This is why these argument happen.

BTW if anyone didn't know, NO there is not a Halo4 on PS3.

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# Sony needs to really do somethingGeosondaman 2008-07-15 15:27
I think in the near future, more and more exclusives that were once only available on the Playstations will head over to the Xbox 360 due to Microsoft's constant luring using its monetary attraction. Sigh...this is the sad truth, S-E needs more money therefore it is releasing FFXIII on the 360 as well since the xbox 360 has a huge user base in North America. In Europe I would say it's about the same for PS3 and 360. I totally understand them not releasing the game on the 360 in Japan since you know...the 360 is miserable in that region. Anyhow, I just hope they won't sacrifice the quality for quantity as some of you have said already.



As for Versus XIII, I sure hope the game takes advantage of the Cell BE Processor since this is an exclusive. I would expect better graphics quality than FFXIII since this is solely being developed for the PS3.

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# Funny guy dKingofdaberbz 2008-07-15 16:11
WOW Could of surprised me all the ps3 fanboys said GTA4 on 360 would be outsold on ps3. Even Patcher said it "GTA is still a PS franchise." Oh I agree that GTA4 should of been exclusive a 360 excluisve.

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# ...[DVSDevise] 2008-07-15 20:07
There is no REQUIRED(!) installs on the 360 and I seriously doubt there ever will be. Optional is the key word.



Blu-Ray is great for FMV cut scenes and that's really the only advantage it has. MS showcased some pretty graphic intense games at it's keynote, Gears, RE5 and Fallout. Why would people think the game will need to be degraded for the 360? It will need extra discs because of the FMVs but everything else will be pretty close to equal.



Square have actually had more experience developing games on the 360 as well. It's not like this will be their first 360 game. In fact it will be their fourth one by the time it's released.

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# EPIC FAIL.Esaar 2008-07-15 20:13
Epic Fail I say. All three companies. Micro$oft, $ony and now $quare Enix as well. All three fail in my opinion.



First. Sony killed its wonderful gaming console to further their HD media. I said including bluray was a bad idea the day the playstation came out and even though bluray won the next-gen format war, it killed the PlayStation. If the PS3 didn't have the bluray drive it wouldn't be *****ing $599.99 the day it came out and everyone would have it by now and FFXIII would remain PS3 exclusive.



Microsoft can just go to hell. All they know to do is steal customers with promises of money and deliver ***** products in return. ***** you Microsoft.



$quare Enix EPIC FAIL. Not only are they looking like complete Sell-Outs now but also what they don't realize is that all those people that they think make such a strong Xbox base in America WILL NOT BUY this game! Yes, many will. But not like they are hoping. Majority of the Xbox base has no interest in Final Fantasy. All the people I know think it's a kids' game. Most Xbox users like Halo type games. So great work SE. You sold yourself out and not only lost your loyal Sony fanbase but got jack ***** in return.



Good job SE. I'm sure now you will complete the kill and gutting us by removing *****loads of awesome content that would have been otherwise included on the PS3. Trust me. There will be no "two-disc" version and there will be no "separate ps3" version. Prepare for the next gta iv.

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# UmmAlistar 2008-07-16 03:29
From what I have read...



The 360 upscales games to 720p and 1080p. This means DVD9 only has standard definition stored on the disk. This and the data may be more compressed.



Blu-Ray has games stored in high definition, instead of the PS3 upscaling the standard definition.



Disk storage may not be an issue.

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!ISOHaven 2008-07-16 05:20
"There is no REQUIRED(!) installs on the 360"



Who said there was?

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# re:deathwilmheath 2008-07-16 07:21
Are you really getting your panties in a wad over a console? I'm so glad I finally switched over to a high end pc for gaming so I can avoid cry baby responses like yours. Until you grow up enjoy wasting all your time defending your stupid console so that Sony can make more money off idiot fanboys like you.

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# come on now...Deviant721 2008-07-16 10:37
do u think square-e devs just completly downsized this game....

this game probably wasnt very large in the first place

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# ...Binary 2008-07-16 12:16
I think its going to be on multi-disk

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# ...Binary 2008-07-16 12:19
sorry but your comment is a EPIC FAIL

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# ...Binary 2008-07-16 12:24
you all forgetting some things





CACHE



and/or



MULTI-DISK





So stfu!!!



console war blows

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!ISOHaven 2008-07-17 06:06
They said it was going to be multi-disc in the same presentation. They just didn't say how many. Which is understandable seeing as how they haven't really started yet.

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# WTF!?!?!?!?!ISOHaven 2008-07-17 06:12
@Esaar - Does your rear end hurt as often as the veins poping out of your neck?



It's called a Hemorrhoid. You should get that checked out! Chilling out in the meantime would be a good idea.



Remember, these are video GAMES.



Save that energy of yours for when you come across someone killing puppies...

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# ...Kukko 2008-07-17 10:00
It doesn't mean that you can't have a game at 720p or whatever on a DVD disc.



I don't understand that some people fail to understand this.. The storage media is different only in its storage capacity.

Let's say you have a 2GB 720p video file on your hard drive and you burn it on a DVD-R and a BD-disc, does the file suddenly come SD on a dvd? +)



For the part that DVD-9 would not be enough for this game.. I think that ~8.5GB or so is more than enough for games at this generation, only time when you need huge amounts of storage space is when you have prerendered video inside the game... Whitch I think is pretty useles since you could do just the same using the games engine.

Or aren't the consoles fast enoug? ;)



On PC there arent many games that are over 6GB or so, and I would guess that textures (the stuff that takes most of the storage space) are just as high detailed or more detailed than on consoles.

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# DVDUgly-Wan 2008-07-18 06:03
i was talking about square

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