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Sony: The PS3 is worth every penny |
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The PS3 is pricey, no doubt about that. The US$ 399 for the 80GB PS3 is quite a blow to the wallet. "Now I've heard it said a number of times before from a lot of different folks: Well, you know, it's all about price and it's all about what you can provide, and everybody's price conscious," said Ian Jackson, SCEA VP for sales.But the reason that the PS3 is priced the way it is is because of its entertainment versatility, and expensive, but powerful Blu-ray drive. "There is no product in the industry today on the videogame console market that delivers what a PlayStation 3 delivers for under US$ 400, in the case of the 80GB," Jackson said.
Jackson mentions that the sales target for PS3 units for fiscal year 2009 is 10 million, and he is confident that they can hit the mark. "We're on track to hit those numbers, and we will hit those numbers," he said.
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Any ways in my opinion sony should focus their marketing on how the overall price vurses its competitors is a better value.
XBOX $199
wireless adapter $100
*i would need wireless because my router downstairs and xbox would be in my room
xbox live $60
Total $359- this is only $40 the price of the PS3 and this is the price of the arcade so no hard drive. Also this is only a 1 year subscription to xbox live, we could always cancel out the live price because xbox live is great, but for reasons of comparison im leaving it on.
Nintendo wii $ 269.99
Extra controllers X1 $ 70
*Wii fit $ 99.99
*motion plus $ ???
Ok first off for nintendo wii you must have an extra controller, and if you dont have atleast 2 i dont see why you have the console, anyways the total price would be about $340 not including all those little gadgets and crap. Over all you spend a lot on the wii in terms of price.
Now I know I wasted my time typing all this crap out, but I just want to say that i hate when people complain about the price, but then again I'm kind of dispaointed in SONY for doing a poor job of expressing its value, sure they say it but prove it like I did.
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Parents however don't know about the values that comes within the console, so most of then opt to go with the 360 which is 200 bucks less.
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I think the PS3 should be $349 right now to pull even with the 360 and $300 to pull ahead.
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I suppose it's about options....and 360 does give you more options to spend less money....but if you decide to upgrade in the future you get ripped off hardcore....
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For the average casual gamer who just wants to play some next gen games offline, the 360 offers exceptional value, for £99 you could buy an xbox arcade and your done. If you wanted a PS3 minimun you can spend is £300.
My point is casual gamers have a very hard decision at the moment, pay £99 or pay £300 for what they see as providing the same benefit to them.
Sony is stuck in a hard place, it cant rip out the blueray and sell some cheaper SKUs because their games depend on this. It also wouldn't want to start charging for online as alot of people would be outraged, at least until Home is released and adds some tangible value.
So for now Sony cant strip down there SKU any more than they already have, and at some point they will need to drop their price to capture some of the casual gammers that the 360 is currently getting.
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This is what they could, I know it wont mke everyone happy thou.
1) Return backwards complatibility!
2) Get your online service up to speed with Xbox Live and charge half the price
3) Package cheaper games instead of newly release first party games in your bundles
4) Stop increasing the hard disk size instead of reducing the price
I think they could easily cut the price if they made these changes.
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now a lot of fan boys will get pissed at me for saying this, but honestly i dont give a flying ####,
I used to own a 360 before i got my ps3, and it broke down, sent it in and the other broke down in two months,
"unacceptable'
i've had :one: ps3, for over a year now, and no problems at all,
i bought my ps3, to have a console that wouldnt break down every other month, but once I got it, with its blu-ray, and other features like the ability to steam movies from my pc,, " which notably is a feature that preforms better on the ps3"
*personal moment, i dont care what any 360 fanboy says, the movie steaming feature damned well is more stable on the ps3, and to hell with anyone who thinks differently., both my 360's i had, would often crash in the middle of steaming a movie, that kind of ***** just doesnt happen on my ps3.,
I find it to be the supirior system,.
i'll never go back to the 360 now,,
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but seriously, you dont have to slag off the 360 cause you got a ps3 and prefer it now. i got a ps3 too and prefer it over a 360, but i know the 360 is great too and i have to admit its way better than i thought it would be after playing it often at friends.
what i mean is just enjoy your ps3, u dont have to justify buying it by making out the 360 is worse than it really is.
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the ultimate truth is, and i'll put it in capps, so people can hear me,
'I DONT LIKE THE 360, IT BREAKS DOWN TO MUCH, THEY CLAIM THE RED RING ISSUE IS FIXED, BUT IT REALLY ISNT,
THE PS3 REALLY IS, THE SUPIRIOR CONSOLE, AND THOSE PEOPLE WHO SAY THEY HAVE BOTH AND SAY OTHER WISE, ARE STRIGHT UP LIARS AND DONT OWN A PS3 AT ALL, FOR IF THEY DID, THEY WOULD F#ING KNOW BETTER,
honestly, i dont know how to make that any clearer,
do you guys know what a forum of public opinion is?
it's a forum, where people come in and express their opinions, and if people dont like those opinions, then those people express their opinions, But ultimately, the painful truth is, i have the freedom, to not like the 360, and prefer the ps3 over it, if i damned well choose,,
so umm,,
there you have it,,
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it's ALSO a place where people can DISAGREE with each other, remember that? it's called having a debate. you know, different opinions.
so I said you should enjoy your ps3 instead of slagging off the 360, what's so hurtful about my comments that you had to have a hissy fit in response? if you can't take other people's opinions, then why are you here?
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the fact is, no-one called you a liar, i took what you said on faith, as we have to do online. so no-one has to prove anything.
seems you just here to argue for the sake of it.
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try not to get bent out of shape about it.
some people like to goat other people and have fun online, even by enraging console flame wars.
everyone get's their rocks off in different ways.
but, try to remember not to take things personaly,. unless you are actually being spoken too,
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its 5 am in the morning, on a single thread at qj, maybe all of ten people in the world are looking at this post at this very moment.
it seems you are esily offended. for that I apologize.
But really who am I to you, some stranger from nowhere?
*Waves his hand, these are not the droids you are looking for. now chill out,
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hence it seems to me YOU are the person here trying "to goat other people and have fun online, even by enraging console flame wars".
from your first post you've been trying to invite 360 fanboys to argue with you, and then those who say they own 360 and ps3, so please stop pretending to be 'mr innocent' here.
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i found that rather offencive to be honest,
wouldnt you?
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lol seems pretty presumptuous to me.
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but i dont have to address my posts to anyone, ever.
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I admit, I was ready for a nice raging debate about the console wars, but we've taken this post completely off topic, and for what?
Come on lets just drop this before we ruin this whole thread..
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now if 360 fanboys came here and starting something first, then fine it's fair game, but don't expect me to support spoiling a topic with yet another mindless console war.
"Come on lets just drop this before we ruin this whole thread."
and the console war you wanted wouldn't have ruin this thread? but yes, i agree, lets move on.
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if console wars werent fun, then less people would be interested in them, as it happens they are great fun.
And yeah, I make no bones about admiting that I was trying to fan the flames in the console wars debate.
am I sorry for that, absolutly not, because, the console wars are a very fun spectacle indeed.
however, when people take other peoples comments and become offended. thats a sign, that that person, isn't comeing online i the right state of mind.
The net is a harsh place full of bastard coated bastards with bastard filling.
you have to have a thick skin, to make it online,
and if something as simple as being called a liar sets you off,
Then I would suggest you develop a thicker skin, or the net's gonna eat you alive bro..,.
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pretty classy, if you ask me.
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actually ShadeyProphet, i knew exactly what i was doing. my goal here was to call you out on your real intentions (i.e. starting a console war), and i used the methods i know to work best. :)
btw, i actually enjoy console wars too. and yes they can be exciting, funny, entertaining and even irritatingly in a good way, but i dont want them everywhere! so like i said, if the 'enemy' arrive to start something, then fair game the war is on, but lets at least allow topics to run their course first.
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so don't let the contents of my posts fool you, i know what i'm doing and saying, there's logic behind it. So in the words of Stan Laurel "I'm not as stupid as i look". ;)
so dont let
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@Dvsd. oh yes, i'm just devastated. I don't know how i'll ever recover, ;)
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You have marketing releasing sales figures...as if I (or anyone I know) give a crap about sales figures (esp. considering that what is reported can be manipulated).
Anyone else have another perspective on this?
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In other words, when the PS3 was released, MS had sold X amount of 360s yet when you look at their aniversary dates, that gap gets smaller and smaller....meaning MORE PS3's are selling then 360s in the long run.
So tell me, what does it mean when a more expensive console can OUTSELL a lower price console?
I'll give you at least one answer. It means people want MORE for their money and they get EXACTLY that with the PS3.
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However my friends own a PS3 and I usually go over to play PS3, and I know of all the features it has and all, I like PS3 becuase it has a ton of features that are cool that no other console has. Besides that you can always upgrade the Hard Drive on the PS3 to make it bigger, and you got the SIXAXIS controllers. I like the features and what I like the koolest is I can Plug-in my Blackberry phone and charge it while I'm playing PS3 lol and I can copy my music from my PS3 to my 16GB Micro SD on my phone.
I've been wanting to get a PS3 but its pricey, but its worth it. Especially when NFS Undercover is coming out, theres LBP (Little Big Planet) and of course can't wait for KILLZONE 2!!!!
XBOX 360 I don't like the idea that you have to pay for XBOX Live or so, I used to play the Original XBOX and I really never got adjust to the controls it had. XBOX 360 might be cheaper than the PS3 but if you get the arcade console you get no HDD and network adaptor and so... It's kinda like the PS2 where you needed a Network adaptor to play online, and a HDD if you wanted to run backups or so.... (Even tho PS2 HDD was used to run backups)
The Wii, well its kool and fun to play with it, but yea you really need to have a second control in order to play the console, because playing by yourself all the time isn't that fun. Controls are a little pricey and you always have to replace the AA batterys when there dead (Unless you buy the actually Battery that is chargable) I find no point to buy the wii unless you know there will be people who will play together.
SOOO.....MY FINAL CONCLUSION IS.....PS3 IS THE BEST!! (I own a PSP so its even better if I get a PS3)
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gta4
infamous
lil big planet
wipeout hd
soul calibur iv
and i own 27 games for the 360
but also i dont use my 360 for other stuff besides gaming while i use my ps3 for everything i use it more than my pc in fact im typing on it right now.
ps3 is well worth the purchase because
1.blu-ray - ive never seen a blu-ray payer cost less then 250$
2.harddrive- i think a 80 gig is atleast worth 100$
3.Its way better than the peace of crap we call trhe wii
4.It has dvd i have never seen a dvd player cost less than 25$
5.wireless controller-Though 360 has it to its cery cool
6. it has dual core
7.1080p while 360 is 720p
8.Its deffinately the more sexy console
9.built in wifi has to be atleast worth 50 bucks
10. I can play nes games on it (through bd-j)
ide say the worth of this all together is
since ps2 was 199$ id say they threw on a good 420$ worth of extras and that makes it worth 619$ but we get it for almost half of that.
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the guy said it wouldnt play games anymore but i cold use it for internet and psn
i opened it up and the only reason it didnt work was a wood chip was stopping the discs from spinning hellovagooddeal
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Larger HDD's aren't really that expensive at all. You can get a 320-500gb for somewhere between $100-$200 which is the about the same price as 120gb HDD for the 360 and it isn't proprietary either which is kinda weird for Sony.
The PS3 has Bluetooth which you can use it for other devices instead of just the headset and it doesn't have to be just one brand of headset. You can find one that's to your liking and chances are it would work.
It is the better looking console but that glossy black finish on the casing and the chrome finish on the the disc slot (60gb sku) is a fingerprint and dust magnet.
Also don't update to FW 2.50 because you will lose your BD-J capabilities, but not updating, you will lose the PSN. Personally I would rather lose BD-J.
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Prices fall over time and not to mention there is retail mark-up and the manufacturer has to make a profit as well.
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So you base an ENTIRE consoles life on ONE MONTH of sales? You really are nothing but a child.
"unless the PS3 has the claimed 10 year lifespan and the price eventually comes down to $200 range."
And you base that one what? For TWO YEARS the PS3 sold better then the 360. But now all of a sudden it needs to be more then half the price in order to continue based on dollar figures from the beginning?
"Sony needs to have 2 models, a basic core system like the new 80gb model for $350, and a permanent model with backward compatibility and 120gb hard drive to compete with the 360 elite priced at $500."
Again, you base that on what?
"While you already get a great value getting a PS3 for $400, the high price prevents many people from ever getting one."
$100 prevents many people from getting one. Again, WTF is your point?
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I don't think many people still care about BC now. Personally I would be happier if PS3's came with 4 USB slots again. If they did, I would buy another one. Being able to connect multiple devices via USB at the same time is far more valuable than BC.
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ps3 is well worth the purchase because
1.blu-ray - ive never seen a blu-ray payer cost less then 250$ - I don't use BD, because the discs cost too much. It's far cheaper to simply stream high-def video. It is a nice drive, though. Shame the PS3 has the oldest, slowest model imagineable, and it'd be a lot smarter to simply buy a new Toshiba or Olevia BD player for 200$ (And in some places, cheaper than that now.)
2.harddrive- i think a 80 gig is atleast worth 100$ - An 80gb at the r/w speed of the PS3 costs roughly 15$ to produce.
3.Its way better than the peace of crap we call trhe wii - Opinions aren't really suitable to checklists of 'why'. The Wii outsells just about everything. Its games move, as well, and there are far more on 'must get' lists worldwide than anything the PS3 or 360 have. Apparently, the world thinks otherwise.
4.It has dvd i have never seen a dvd player cost less than 25$ - You can buy DVD players for 15$ at brandsmart.
5.wireless controller-Though 360 has it to its cery cool - Yes, every console pretty much boasts a wireless control at this point. (And, sorry, sixaxis was a bust, hence they made the dualshock 3.)
6. it has dual core - Shame the cores dont sync well, nor is their highend very high at all. Look up 'PS3 as a supercomputer' on google, there is a nice data analysis on the ps3 processing power.
7.1080p while 360 is 720p - This one is funny. 80% of 360 games ship with 1080p support. Less than 15% of PS3 releases support anything above 1080i. Don't believe me? Look at the back of your game boxes. I'm hardpressed to even think of 5 PS3 games that support 1080p at the moment. (I want to say MGS4, Fallout 3, LBP, Resistance 2.. but I'm not even 100% sure on those ones.)
8.Its deffinately the more sexy console - It looks like a chromed out toaster oven.
9.built in wifi has to be atleast worth 50 bucks - Everyone boasts about the built in wifi. All the good, surely. Yet in a lot of areas, I can't even use wifi. Areas of high humidity and static have terrible signal quality and gaming suffers. During any kind of storm, even one remote from your location, wireless can be effected. If your console isn't within wired distance of your router, you're asking for blackout periods.
10. I can play nes games on it (through bd-j) - This is what a PSP is for. ..Ahem.
I summary, all the current gen consoles and handhelds are excellent. They all offer something worthwhile. I'm a 'gamer', not a 'PS3er' or a '360er'. I game to game, and love any good game that comes out.
PS3 is losing the financial war, though, Their sales numbers are terrible, the fact that they've lost a lot of exclusives to the 360 in the US market proves that (SE swapping FFXIII and SO4 comes to mind.)
I don't really care if they think it's worth every penny: The consumer doesn't. Without consumer support, developers will make less. Making less on a console that costs more to develop for. (As the PS3 does, due to its quirky architecture) will really only hurt the library. Which sucks, as the PS3 has promise.
As it stands, the 360 has a 30% userbase, the PS3 a 20%, and the Wii has the other 50%. Oddly, its a close race. Reminds me of ol snes vs genesis.. ahh, memories.
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