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Sony, Immersion sign new rumble deal

Posted Mar 2, 2007 at 12:30AM EST by Karl B.

Listed in: PS3 Tags: Immersion Corporation, Kazuo Hirai, playstation 3 updates, Sony

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Rumble fans, start the celebration. After Sony and Immersion settled their long-running legal battle over rumble technology, a new agreement between both companies indicates that the feature will be making a comeback soon. According to GamesIndustry.biz, Sony has entered into a new agreement that will see Immersion's rumble technology included in future PlayStation products.

"Our new business agreement with Sony is specifically intended to enable advanced vibration capability for the benefit of the PlayStation community," Victor Viegas, CEO of Immersion, commented. "We are happy to provide our technology in this regard and hope to make technical proposals very soon with respect to use of our technology in the PlayStation products."

"We look forward to exploring with Immersion exciting new ways to bring the largest and best range of gameplay experiences to our customers," said Kaz Hirai, president of Sony Computer Entertainment. "We are very excited about our new partnership with Immersion and the potential for new and innovative products incorporating their technologies."

Details are still scarce about the agreement. For now, rumble fans will have to make do with third-party controllers that offer the feature.

Via Games Industry

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So now Sony realizes this will be a competition. I am really glad because I invested my money in a PS3 already. Sony looks to be making HUGE strides to own up to everything and give the people what they want. Today was a pretty big news day. By the way fannies don't rant about "oh Sony is just copying what company X did" really? You mean like having an online service *Cough* nintendo copied that idea. Or how about using CDs as a medai form? copied. I can go on FOREVER. The point is Sony has awaken and understood its better to emulate other companies and give customers what they want rather than marching to your own drum and selling jack to nobody. I would much rather have a company take an idea and try to make it better. You know, the CDs led to DVDs and even now HiDef discs? Yeah please please please, copy the crap out of each other, because all you are doing is creating new innovative ways to deliver us entertainment we want.

# CD DVD HD EH what ? this is about Rumble — Guest 2007-03-02 01:59

Ludikhris instead of trying to hype up Sony why dont you stick to the topic ?..

Despite what the fanboys said we all knew you cant play a driving game(Especially a sim) without rumble its impossible to get the feedback from corners wheelspin etc, same with fighting games.

Looks like 360 is proberly going to be getting tilt like functions added to their rumble pad looking at recent news.. So all in all its all going to be back to having the same sort of funtions on both pads.

# good old sony — comedy 2007-03-02 02:12

this is absolutely classic sony, 'we don't need rumble'

'good news, we now have rumble!'

hehehehe

but that's not a bad thing, M$ are still making the same old mistakes while sony are willing to take it on the chin and take some criticism... if only all game companies actually took heed of what their gamers wanted!

so... does this mean patches over psn for existing games might become available? or just newer games will have rumble in, and will there be a SIXAXIS 2? like, SIXAXIS-R (for rumble)?

i understand ludikhris's sentiments, it's like he's trying to stem the flaming as soon as he can. the thing is, i see ps3 (and x360 actually) as being much more capable of change and future innovation than the wii... i mean if wii had to do some sort of clever switch up then it coudln't run any games (due it's puny powers). but ps3 and x360 could do what wii does in a heart beat. of course they cost a lot more, and aren't nintendo, but it's all a big seesaw anyway.

this is good news for gaming though, although i play games with the rumble switched off i can see it as a much valued element of games, and if sony work against it then there's a chance it would fall out of favour... not anymore! hooray!!

# great — Guest 2007-03-02 02:17

Now if they can just get rid of that dog slow blu-ray drive and the poorly designed cell processor,, and then put the emotion engine back in and knock 300 dollars off the price they just may be able to compete!!!!

# Here comes the Fanboys — Guest 2007-03-02 02:44

Before - "We don't need 1080p, the sweet spot is 720 for gaming" After - "We can now upscale games to 1080p!" Check this one out: Before - "Component cables are just as good as HDMI" After - M$ will most likely reveal their rumored system at GDC. Okay last one: Before - "The 360 is a great piece of hardware" After - "M$ expands their warranty" the truth hurts sometimes.

# haha — Guest 2007-03-02 02:51

I hear you on that, but it's not as bad as it sounds. What sucks balls is that I already have 2 controllers and now I probably will have to put down even more of my *****ing cash into new updated controllers. I know I'll do it too cause Sony has made me a ***** and I can't do ***** about it. Just argh...oh well.

# SIXAXIS? — Guest 2007-03-02 02:54

Will the tilt function still be able to work with rumble on because surely it will shake the controller around too much.

# ... — Guest 2007-03-02 03:07

The wiimote rumbles and still works quite well....

# Wii controller — Guest 2007-03-02 03:13

It has rumble because the motion is detected by the power strip that wii owners have to put below the tv. For the sixaxis since it's bluetooth there is no need for sensors.

# I dont care a bit — Guest 2007-03-02 03:20

about Rumble, I always put it off specially in wireless controls for battery saving.

If there is a settlement is in SONY terms, they showed to Inmersion that they are fully capable to push the PS3 without rumble, being Inmersion the only big money loser in a rumble-less PS3.

Now if DualShock3 is coming I hope SONY dont let down first adopters (big fans) and make the necessary replacement, I'm sure they already have the new control ready only waiting to be mass produced and probably DS3 is only the SIXAXIS plus a rumble enabler piece.

# erm... — comedy 2007-03-02 03:24

i reckon the way they measure acceleration for sixaxis is through piezo-electrics... this is a good way, and with proper thinking and precautions any effect rumble has on the motion sensing would be easily taken care of. for a start the amplitude of rumble oscillations is tiny compared to when a player swings the sixaxis around.

the wii accelerometers don't use the power strip, that is used to detect position. what does this mean? erm... basically if wiimote works with rumble and motion sensing then there's no reason sixaxis can't.

and bluetooth cannot detect position with only one sensor... it's just not doable.

# wii rumble — Guest 2007-03-02 03:30

not all of the wii's motion sensing is in the strip it also has an accelerometer similar to the ps3's so when the controller is not facing the infra-red strip it can still dectect motion... the only reason for the IR strip is to dectect changes in distance and hight

# yay — Guest 2007-03-02 03:45

yayyyyy

yay

# .... — Oner001 2007-03-02 03:54

I still don't care for rumble, I like the lightness of the SixAxiS. What I think is more important and have been saying it since I got my PS3 is the fact that

ANALOG IS NOT ON EVERY BUTTON LIKE THE OLD DUAL SHOCK

This is a VERY important feature that has been omitted/forgotten/removed from all the face buttons and L1/R1. I can tell you this, I won't be buying "just" a rumble controller only to have Sony release a SixAxiS with Rumble AND all analog buttons.

I will chance it and wait or just buy a standard SixAxiS when the price drops on them because people want the NEW rumble one.

# g4tv — Guest 2007-03-02 03:59

haha g4tv was just bashing the ps3 cause it didnt have rumble.. well now they can STFU. Lol they were saying how sony should put their foot in their mouth... now guess who needs to put their foot in their mouth??? AOTS and X-play thats who..

# Please Kaz? Rumble soon? — anonamoose 2007-03-02 04:00

I know that Kojima has been one of the biggest opponents to taking out the rumble feature. In my own twisted mind I think that he had something to do with it coming back.

" Hello Kaz? It's Hideo! Yes, how are you? Good Good, Guess what I'm Going Multi-Platform With MGS4. Uh-huh. Ohhh you are bringing back rumble. Good Deal I guess I'll stay exclusive then. Yea, Ok I'll just tell Microsoft to ***** off then. Bye."

I'm glad it's coming back. I hope they can implement it into future games and add it to existing ones like RFOM With Patches.

# ... — Oner001 2007-03-02 04:17

I too have noticed the blatant increased amount of Sony bashing AOTS has been dishing out as of late. It's at that point where I fast forward through "The Feed" or when Olivia tries to speak on stuff she obviously has NO sense or information about.

When Sony truly gets on it's feet in the near future with amazing titles like MGS, GT, etc. a lot of people will be shown as the hypocrites they really are.

# biggest basher is — Guest 2007-03-02 04:42

morgan web.. shes got to be the biggest ps3 hater ever! I really want the ps3 to succeed and win the console wars just so she can stfu too.. and your right bout olivia oner001 she looks like she doesnt know half the stuff she talks about. But shes a babe so i dont pay attention to what she says.... ;)

# i knew it — Guest 2007-03-02 05:00

This is what I have been telling my friend from the begining, the only reason they removed it was due to the legal issues, tilt sensing and rumble have been together since the early 90's if i remember correctly, their was a controller back then that had both and they worked fine.

# To bad for early Ps3 owners — Guest 2007-03-02 05:28

The PS3 console its self doesnt contain rumble. So having controllers that support rumble will make no difference. Its funny how the Sony lies are building up. But we couldnt include rumble becasue is conflicted with the sixaxis.

# Pot Stirrer — Guest 2007-03-02 05:28

They've got to be prepping the psp 2.0 soon/now... Make up with Immersion for the new psp w/ rumble? The controller sure, but something must have made them go "ok, we really need to get this over with" for the project to go ahead, me thinks.

Rumble in a handheld would be damn cool!

# ... — Guest 2007-03-02 05:40

The PS3 does have rumble, otherwise me and many otehrs are imagining our steering wheels' force feedback in NFS.

# Wag the dog — Guest 2007-03-02 05:56

Good old Sony having the courage of their convictions again. A true kind of steadfast company that believes in itself.

Or the flipside just another PR Bollock (testicle) that comes back to haunt them.

# lurker — Guest 2007-03-02 06:34

what are you on about, consoles dont need to contain rumble, its the controller that does lol, plus a simple d/l update will add any rumble needed. nub

# OMG — Guest 2007-03-02 06:38

a little off topic, but GDC is suppose to focus on European Development.......hint hint ........Killzone 2.Hells yeah not only is it the most expensive game in developement, it one on sony's own branches just like resistance.So you know there is going to be the sharing of information between the two studios..............

Now on topic.... yeah i do remember sony saying that the rumble would affect the sixasis,but honestly i don't care sh*t so we're gonna have it now......and to be honest didn't really notice it missing when i was playing fight night on ps3 and to when i played on 360

Off topic......uhh.......again.

Linux users, is it possible to run beryl not accessing the rsx but use the emotion engine instead.I know Beryl on the ps3 would be so f*cking awesome.

# yup — antaeus 2007-03-02 06:40

the PS3 does have rumble build in you just need a controller that supports it and it will not be hard for Sony to send a callback for all the early controllers and replace them with the ones that have rumbles

# lol — antaeus 2007-03-02 06:44

poorly design cell processor? oh wow dude the ignorance within you is strong, I guess you must be blind and can't read because then you haven't been able to see all the awards the cell is getting and all the companies that want to work on it and put it on EVERYTHING from cars to airplanes

# PSP rumble — Guest 2007-03-02 07:13

You would end up dropping a psp with any sort of violent rumble - it would be really soft and tbh i really dont like rumble on games like MOH where it seems to be on ALL the time. The option would be extremely nice though!!!

# Eh what ? — Guest 2007-03-02 07:35

Er could you translate that complete load of crap that you wrote into readable sentences, Thanks

# Bashing now they can stfu ???? — Guest 2007-03-02 07:40

Hmm You really are missing the point, its the complainers/bashers who have got this feature installed not people like you who moan about those same people once they are listened to by Sony.

# Hypocrites ? — Guest 2007-03-02 08:09

This is so funny, look at all the jumps this has got ?, all defending something they was defending against just a couple of weeks ago!, something that even Sony said will not work with their pad ? !!!...

# Please Kaz? No Rumble soon, I didnt want it before I had it. — Guest 2007-03-02 08:14

" Hello anonamoose ? It's Hideo! Yes, how are you? Good Good, Guess what I'm Going Exclusive With MGS4. Uh-huh. Ohhh you are bringing back rumble. Oh ***** guess I'll stay Multiformat then. Yea, Ok I'll just tell Sony to ***** off then. Bye."

# I Agree skyler — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-03-02 08:40

The game is what gives the feedback to the controller and if need be, Sony can let you download a patch for rumble.

# antaeus I Agree — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-03-02 08:47

The cell processor is not poorly designed what so ever. It can be better than the 3 cores in some respects that microsoft has for the 360 if programmed for properly. Come on, after all some of the best chip designing companies in the world worked on it. Some of the first gen games proves testament to it like Lair, Motorstorm, and Resistance just to name a few.

# ANALOG IS NOT ON EVERY BUTTON LIKE THE OLD DUAL SHOCK — Guest 2007-03-02 09:09

YES IT IS!!!!! They even made the buttons stick out more to give you a better feel of it. Go and try some PS2 games that used the feature as proof.

# dualshock 3? — Act II 2007-03-02 09:22

i like the sixaxis name much better

# gimme a break — Guest 2007-03-02 09:37

first people complain there is no rumble in the ps3. ANd now that it is coming people suddenly decide to complain that it will be pointless. why can't you ever support something? I personally think this will be a great addition to my ps3 and maybe will quiet all those nintendo and xbox fanboys.

# I thought ... — Darth Manson 2007-03-02 09:46

Rumble was the past & tilt was the future?

# It's never too late to change your mind — Guest 2007-03-02 10:05

Yeah they definitely said that, guess they realised they were wrong.

But in fact i think it mught be more on the point that they did not know if they could get rumble somewhere, so they did not want to sell it before confirmation.

I won't be suprise that customer will have to put extra $$$ on new remote, letting their old ones obsolete (or for friends when they come over)

Let's hope it wont boost it's price an extra 15-20$, they are quite expensive.

# ... — Oner001 2007-03-02 10:29

WOW! While I stand corrected and am glad to be shown it does work, I was under the understanding it wasn't. All because of RR7, which does NOT implement the function and is the reason why I was mistaken. Thank you Extinction, appreciated.

# antaeus — Guest 2007-03-02 11:24

cars? airplanes?

what does that have to do with a console?

# . — Guest 2007-03-02 12:10

Sony must really have a good recepe for their words.. since they seem to be eating them alot.

i wonder how "last gen technology" tastes with a twist of lemon.. always goes down smooth with "Rumble messes with motion sencing capabilitys" .. mmmmmm what a good meal.

# yess — Guest 2007-03-02 13:24

finally!!i am excited for rumble!!

# ??? — Darth Manson 2007-03-02 13:42

Or they were seeing if the settlement would pan out.

# Sony is finally listening to its fans?! — Guest 2007-03-02 14:38

I admit I'm one of the many who turned on Sony. It was Sony's arrogance that pissed me off...too many choices that benefited Sony while saying FU to the customer.

But I am happy to hear they are finally listening to their Playstation fans. We wanted rumble, and Sony is finally on their way to delivering.

Now if they just whip the PSP into shape...

# . — Guest 2007-03-02 15:03

I've never really understood the big deal about rumble. It just never "Blew me away" as I guess it has for the rest of you. Personally, I've always found it more of an annoyance. But I am glad that Sony did something to please their customers for once. (even if it means nothing to me). It's a nice change from everything else Sony has been doing recently.

# well you see, unregistered "ummm" guy — mreverdred01 2007-03-02 15:12

http://ps3.qj.net/index.php?pg+49+aid+75887

read that.

# first — Guest 2007-03-02 16:48

they betta give me a new controller

thats some bull ***** if i gotta spend some more money thats like buying my copies of madden and resistance twice WTF???????????????????!?!?

# No — Guest 2007-03-02 17:51

GOOD GAMES?

# finally — Guest 2007-03-03 00:22

It's about time you gave you're customers what they want(some of us)$ony.But Iam looking forward to it coming back.It does stink we have to pay more money to get something that should have been there in the first place......oh well

# shmo — Guest 2007-03-03 04:49

Well. In regards to older games not being able to support rumble, the game designers can easily just release an update via download that will enable force feedback support. And maybe... just maybe... instead of it being internally built to the controllers it will be a small extra that connects on top of the controller via usb. This would make the best sense since so many people have the sixaxis already and so many have been produced it would kill sony finanacially to do a recall of all the controllers. just my opinion.

# hmm — Guest 2007-03-03 05:19

hopefully they come out with a usb battery charger and rumble pack at the same time. for us who have the reg ps3 controller

# I don't care either — Guest 2007-03-03 07:09

I like the lightweight comfortable feel that the sixaxis has. I don't want force feedback back. :(

# Power Strip — Guest 2007-03-03 07:12

The Wii Power Strip smooths actions. It is not needed, but you'll find without it that things will be choppy.

# sony, the peoples company — Guest 2007-03-03 11:02

they listene to the fans and are now bringing out rumble.

I think sony could do a callback and install the sixaxis controllers with rumble chips. a little chip that goes in the USB means you cant charge the battery and play at the same time....

# Don't Forget — CHUCKINGROCKSATSPACESHIPS 2007-03-03 15:59

The motors which are what make rumble possible. They could even do away with circular motors all together in favor of a linear one instead. I wonder what they will cook up next. Maybe a more detailed rumble with just a tad less vibration and a lot more when needed.

# Pfft — Guest 2007-03-03 16:54

"Our new business agreement with Sony is specifically intended to enable advanced vibration capability for the benefit of the PlayStation community,"

Yea right. They know without the PS3 they wouldn't make much money.

# uhh — theTick197 2007-03-03 17:53

the playstation was certainly not the first console to use cds. Sega CD , the Saturn, Jagaur CD, NeoGeo CD, 3DO, the list continues. cant remember which came out first but they all came out before the ps1 did.

# what about.. — theTick197 2007-03-03 18:08

what happened to that thing splitfish came up with that is different from force feedback and isn't just a bunch of spinning weights?

# Now redesign the controller — Guest 2007-03-03 20:23

Good to hear that sony will be bringing out sixaxis and rumble controllers(SXR ) but they should also be redesigning them as well - espicially when they bring out a slimline version of the console. I'm a linux fan(avid Micro$oft hater) however xbox has got most things right with its controller.

aside: CORE BLUNDERS MADE BY SONY FOR PS3

(1) late release date

(2) lack of realease titles

(3) Pricing. Should have had a basic unit 20G, 512M Ram with DVD RW at same price as xbox 360. Higher priced units would have BD, more ram & HDD and/or Linux and FOSS preinstalled.

(3) lack of rumble controller

(4) designed a chip that isn't developer friendly. Needed for rapid development or porting.

PREDICTION:

PS3, PS4 even more so, will be a true PC alternative - net, games, media, office, productivity. Unfortunately Micro$oft will copy Sony and will bring a lot of applications if its xbox OS is based on Vista. With rumours Apple will develop their own console based on OSX resulting in an serious ass whipping(eg the coming iPhone), the future Playstation's OS will have to be optimized with either Linux or OSX. If it doesn't do this then Sony will just become a games developer to the eventual winner of the console wars.

# RUMBLE — Guest 2007-03-04 14:08

This crap that the PS3 doesn't support rumble are you kidding me? The original playstation didn't have rumble when it came out... and later it added rumble. the affect of rumble is all about programmers and the code to enable force feed back... the console has nothing to do with it.

# Uh... — Guest 2007-03-12 14:14

Rumble has NOTHING to do with the console. All game makers have to do is offer an update which enables rumble in their game, and poof! you've got rumble.

# Ludikhris — Guest 2007-03-12 14:19

He meant to say they used the DVD format first (which they did, and M$ and Nintendo copied). And the 360 controller sucks as it is, it's very twitchy (and the rumble will make the tilt sensing worse) and hard to control, plus the battery sucks. And when has M$ ever made a product that doesn't suck (except if they made a vacuum cleaner; that might not suck :P)?

# LOL — Guest 2007-03-12 23:38

"So maybe the Rumble Technology's gone, but remember when the first Dual Shock came along? A lot of people were equally annoyed with the rumbling. People will eventually forget about the shaking and focus more on the gaming."

From "Seven reasons to love the PS3" on this very site.

http://www.qj.net/Seven-reasons-to-love-the-PS3/pg/49/aid/85839

Geez, are you guys sponsored by SONY or are you guys sponsored by SONY???

# want my $ back — Guest 2007-03-25 01:28

Lol, bought a ps3 yesterday, and now I hear this about rumble in controllers! I better be getting a replacement or I'm gonna kick some $ony A$$.

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