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Sony goes after German PS3 hacker for €1 million - Hacker's official reply |
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| 1. Sony goes after German PS3 hacker for €1 million |
| 2. Hacker's official reply |
The SONY's lawyer asked me why I'm doing what I'm doing... because of my hatred for Sony? He cannot understand why I'm doing it, because he is paid for what he does. I'm not. I don't hold a grudge against SONY even now Hatred couds your mind, keeps you from more imoprtant things. I have a better use for my mind and knowledge.
From hacking!
So, SONY you failed again, you took my equipment but my mind is still free and you canot (sic) control it. You failed again. They are just tools, I can get new ones and will continue my HV reversing and bringing back PS3 Linux which you took from us.
If you want me to stop then you should just kill me because I cannot live without programming, HV and Linux kernel hacking You know who am I and where I live, so come and get me!!!!"
Nope, it doesn't look like you'll be getting that million euros ever from this guy, Sony.
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He sure has the attitude, I like his work also, and OtherOS will be coming back either from him or another hacker.
Fuck Sony, but I still like my PS3.
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they have to do something.
I cant understand why everyone is on the "hackers" side. They know full well they shouldn't be doing what they do and getting caught is a risk they take
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Except they aren't doing it to their own product, they are doing it to everyones.
They are doing it to the developer's games by allowing them to be stolen, they are doing it to everyone who doesnt hack their system cause now developers will support the system less, and now we have more hackers ruining online multiplayer.
You KNOW they did something wrong, quit trying to ignore it.
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Jailbreaking an iPhone was deemed legal because users MUST have the ability to unlock their phone after their subsidized contract is over and the only way to unlock it is to jailbreak it.
Unlock refers to carrier unlock.
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Obviously not!! It's called stealing.
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In a perfect world there would be a happy medium of homebrew and no piracy. But in a perfect world, communism would work.
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It's not like these hackers don't know what they're getting themselves into and they've receive so many warnings already. They think it's some kind of joke to take away developers/programmers rights to make a living, they're sick in the head.
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You know what I love about the loaders? I can copy all my BOUGHT and LEGALLY OWNED games to the PS3 harddrive and not ever have to worry about switching discs. Does Sony allow that?
No.
And what about those people without even a working drive? If they're under warranty, great, if not, lots of money. Being able to play games without the need for a working drive is amazing!
And how in the fuck does all the work on getting OtherOS back in add to piracy in any meaningful way? It couldn't possibly hurt PS3 game sales, nor any of the current consoles.
Possibly roms, but jeez, how often can you buy a SNES or GBC game that helps those "thousands of families and their jobs" (not necessarily at Sony)?
Plus adding it in for slim users! I'm telling you, I would love to have a small but powerful linuxbox I could take around with me AND play games with. But Sony took it out (like it took out other things) but this time just because it was a "security risk" and without fixing the risk, no, just took it out. I understood when I bought the slim that it wouldn't have OtherOS. What I didn't realize was that it was only because they were about to dump it completely anyway.
Anyway, long rant aside, no, they aren't "sick in the head" and it would do you well to recognize this. They're trying to the functionality of the system by ADDING abilities rather than taking things out over time.
Yes, some of it leads to piracy. I would love it if somehow the loaders would only allow bought games to be run (but not like the 360, still have to change the disc which negates one of the positives). But, since that's a near impossibility, I'll take a program that can enable piracy and get:
HDD Game Loader
OtherOS even on my Slim (or some kind of Linux)
Various kinds of random homebrew
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PS3 is no different.
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Then again, America law is already full of those, so I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens.
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If they went and added a banhammer, things would've been stabled but with Sony, they fuck up everything and screw with everyone.
DON'T HACK YOUR PC'S PEOPLE ALIENWARE/ACER/DELL/TOSHIBA/HP etc.. are going to sue your ass if you do!
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They had to remove it thanks to geohot. You think Sony directives only sit around and think of "evil" plans? It was a major security threat and they HAD to remove it...
And what's all this crap of "my mind is free"? It's just a company, you don't like it, don't buy their products
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As they didn't even include OtherOS on PS3 Slim's they'd remove it anyway.
Stop blaming the wrong people, it's Sony's fault on how PS3 is today. I.e, they took OtherOS and then a revolution started.
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sony's fault? please explain me what they did to fuck up the ps3. they give you an expensive console for a cheap price (that's right, it actually costs more, that's why games are so expensive) they give you free online services, constant firmware updates with new features, etc. what else can you ask from them?
if you want linux so bad, get yourself a computer, don't use a gaming console...
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and dont say they can change the keys, cause if they do, all your current games will not work cause they use those exact keys.
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Another one bites the dust
Hey, I'm gonna get you too
Another one bites the dust!
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And no, jail-breaking is not legal on consoles. The law your referring to is specific to phones.
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See prohibition.
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F'ing sense mate!!!
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For example, in many areas "jaywalking" is illegal. It's not morally wrong in any way but you can cause a car accident and wind up killing some woman and her child in the process. Yes, that was a specific example.
While the whole, "I have a brain and I know how to use it", defense is a good one, it certainly isn't that cut and dry.
However, in this case (PS3) I can't help but think to myself....IT'S A FRIGGING GAME CONSOLE!!!!......GAME! The amount of money that get's spent on BS in this world just boggles my mind. Enjoy paying those lawyers Sony!
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Oh wake up, the law is just some other c**ts opinion on whats right. everyone knows that hacking a console is wrong, just like rape. you are an idiot
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-Sketch
OneHitGamer
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NO people like to moan!
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we are mostly for enhancing a game system not stealing from people that work hard.you have a choice to install cfw or not.devs are not losing money eitheir way.they still get paid the same because majority of people cfw or not are buying the systems and using the games,and bout half or less use cfw.piraters are only 20 percent of the community,do not include us all in the same crowd as that.if you want to debate we will debate all day and night for as long as it takes.but i and others that know the true meaning of why this is actually done will still stand firm,cause we know.most sites in fact relating to psp,ps3 etc ban people on the spot for talking bout piracy.i am a veteran on pspmod.com.look me up you can find me easy on google if you copy my name with the right characters.notice the true legit sites also dont link to pirated games or torrents.so figure out what we are truely about cause you moronic guys piss me off-ƒR()§†H@X @ pspmod.com
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I agree that you won't be spending an eternity in hell, but there are still punishments in the current life. Going to jail is one of them.
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Its one thing to be okay with something its another to argue its right when you know its wrong
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Sony has committed more violations than the hackers did.
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But when you really think about it... why is it wrong? If we remove all the finer details what's essentially happening here is that people are getting into legal trouble for using a product the way the manufacturer didn't intend.
I understand what you're saying if we apply it to piracy, absolutely a pirate who gets caught has no right to argue that what they did was good, but only because piracy harms developers and producers alike. Not to an extent worthy of the financial butt-rape sued pirates face, but the harm's there and measurable.
But what about people who genuinely just want to be able to run apps that weren't released by Sony? I'll be 100% straight with you, I have never pirated a single PS3 game. Ever. But I've installed BootOS and now I'm using it to run Ubuntu, just because I can.
In what world would it make sense to criminalize me for that? How could that possibly be immoral?
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1. Piracy - as you said, it's wrong. End of that story. Now I'll wait for all the dummies to reply in regards to "copies" thinking that's what I'm referring to when I say piracy.
2. "But what about people who genuinely just want to be able to run apps that weren't released by Sony?" Piracy isn't the only problem. This is also a MAJOR PROBLEM and Sony want's this stuff off the console and off THEIR PSN service.
Every single system that is online and wide open is rampant with cheaters.
Sony should have split up "game servers" and "PSN store" access. That way they can ban all the hacked PS3 consoles they want from gaming servers (and for good reason) but still allow people to access the PSN store for things like NetFlix and purchasing games. I honestly do not see the point of banning people from spending money on PSN. Talk about shooting your own foot only to have it ricoshay up into your left nut.
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and why are people whining about hacking on this site? it boggles my mind this site is basically all about modding/hacking
so all you LB's LG'S and fat dumbasses who have nothing better to do then bitch and complain about people hacking or getting sued by sony and talkin about how dumb they are and that they should get a life well..what the hell are you doing? oh ya bitch bitch bitch bitch
do something productive like i don't know killing yourself?
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Also if you buy a game and back it up, why should you get banned when it's your game? Sony should only ban those of which who make online gaming a nightmare, meaning the kids who cheat(such as aimbot/infinite killstreaks users, score board manipulators in CoD).
I agree reverse-engineering(hac king) is most likely illegal, however like a poster above said it can lead to other things besides piracy, such as in-game music, more formats to utilize, party chat, etc. Sony has had about 4 years to implement these features, while it took MS about 2-3 to put these in.
As to the in-game music, it doesn't matter if the game developers didn't add support for it, Sony has the ability to add it in through alternative ways.
I know there's no way to have a perfect console, but still they should at least try to support the console in a way that's beneficial for PS3 users.
About OtherOS, sure some didn't use it
(a few did use it though), but that doesn't mean they should remove it, a lot of people paid $500 for their consoles w/OOS, only to have it removed because it was a "security threat".
Then it turned out that even without it the console could be hacked, and this removal only ended up giving an excuse for extreme hacking which eventually led to piracy, although even before this, it was being hacked, this just gave an excuse to justify it.
Now about those of whom that are for the hackers' side, there's three types and sometimes combinations of the three.
1. Some are the type who don't understand what's going on and just support them, so they can get a feature back that's pretty much useless, unless someone holds their hand and guides them on how to use it.
2. Some are pirates, who most of the time can't afford games, or just do it because they can.
3. Some are those who see the potential of extra features that would be beneficial for them to use.
4. Few are hackers themselves who can't do what GeoHot and Graf are doing, yet want to support them so they can hack things without penalty.
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And on top of that, I'm usually in a party with other friends playing other games. (One friend and I are on Reach, Two are usually on MW2, and two others are usually on MvC3 nowadays.)
Xbox Live has a more 'full' experience to me.
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Sony shouldn't go after hackers, let them do what they want with the console they bought, just ban the pirates. They can tell whose running HB and pirating gmaes... My 2 cents.
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you are such a liar. There is no reason to allow ripping your games to your Hard Drive other than your renting the games or dowloading them and bootlegging them.
There is no other reason, take care of your discs and it won't be a problem. Don't be so lazy, don't want to get off your fat ass to switch a disc OH NOES cry me a river.
Fucking hackers and the people that support them are fucking idiots.
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1. Removal of 2 USB Slots
2. Removal of Ps2 Compatibility
3. Removal of Ohter OS
Then there is this Update Madness, wich most of the time does not add new features.
What we need is:
1. Direct play of flv and mkv files
2. PDF Reader Support
3. Support for NTFS
Sony has provoked the hackers and the were challenged. Sony wants to earn money, but instead of lowering the price of platinum games to enocurage buyers the fight a war. If they block people from psn this people can not buy anything from the psn network again and I would not upgrade my system, which is an indirect ban because sony does not allow access with old system software.
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