Sony gets sued again - this time over PS3 Cell processors |
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Sony, oh Sony, when will you launch a gaming console that won't get slapped with yet another lawsuit? Parallel Processing Corporation (PPC), a California-based company, sued Sony and accused the creators of the PlayStation for infringing on its patent of Synchronized Parallel Processing with Shared Memory (Patent no. 5,056,000), and using the said patent on its Cell processors. The five-page complaint that PPC filed against Sony claims that Sony's powerful Cell processors used the company's patented technology, enabling Sony's Cell chips to breakdown processes into smaller ones, all running at the same time and in different parallel processors for faster computing.
The patent was signed and approved on October 8, 1991, and was awarded to International Parallel Machines. Parallel Processing Corporation claims to be the exclusive licensee of the patent, and is seeking damages and attorney's fees. But the scarier part? Impounding and destruction of all Sony products that infringe on the same patent.
With past lawsuits ranging from rumble controllers, LAN technology, and even employees demanding for overtime pay, we certainly hope that Sony and the PlayStation 3 come out of this mess unscathed. We still have Metal Gear Solid 4 and Final Fantasy XIII to look forward to after all.
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We (Sony fans ) should get together and burn their company to the ground ....
So I'm guessing the 360 and any Dual/Quad Core machines are next on the list. Alright! Let's destroy any parallel computing based processors down the drain and go back to the stone age! I call the flintstones mobile!
This patent business is gettin way out of hand. Really, have they used their patent to produce a working product? If they have and they can prove that their patent was infringed because Sony ripped off said product, then its fair game. If not, GTFO and join the rest of the companies who are tryin to make last ditch attempts at staying afloat.
When you make money in this world, people come after you like a pack of dogs. Like MGSteve says in his comment on Gamespot
"Odd how all these companies seem to be North American based.... (cue start of rumour of MS allegedly funding these cases)"
This is the stupidest lawsuit I've ever heard of.
Sony doesn't have anything to worry about
Impounding and destruction.. what the hell.. they aint gonna
get my ps3 thats for sure. *****ers!
i hope these guys get cancer!!!!
and there's no Folding@Home to save their money grabbing ass!!!!!!
no but there gonna get every other one in the stores, meaning no more units being sold, i.e. sony is dead lol. HOORAY!!! I guess MGS is coming to 360 now since ps3 is about to get buried for sure.
Just like how they stole rumble and could no longer make them for the ps3, now they have to destroy all the ps3s because they stole from someone again.
I think MS should sue them a bit as well, just to kick em while theyre down. You guys are always talking about how MS is money hungry right? Why not get them to go for the PS Button, im sure they ripped that off too since the boomerang didnt have them.
Eh, nintendo can sue too since they also stole the tilt idea (since they had no rumble).
Once sony leaves games can finally be on the better console for once.
You're either a crap troll, or a complete tool.
I'm still undecided. Can you help me out by posting a bit more?
Holy sh*t, you have got to be dumbest f*cking fanboy i've seen YET. No lie! I mean honestly, you're like vomit on a pile of sh*t.
I try to stay out of these fanboy wars but holy mother of all that's living you're f*cking annoying!
Good god, please just drink a full bottle of draino, cram a hamster up your a*s and slice your wrists while lay in a bath tub full of sh*t, just like what spills out of your mouth...
I would finish thing off as normal with "Enjoy yourselves b*tches, it's a celebration!"
But in your case,
Choke on your own vomit your festering, trolling piece of corn encrusted sh*t!
and the xbox 360 isnt so great to begin with. so many retards out there i tell ya
Spoken like an officially registered retard.
Cell doesn't use shared memory, each core has it's own memory.
You are what is wrong with gaming today. Words cant even come close to how truly pathic you are and how you really don't have a life. I just wish that people like you would do the whole world a favor and just take a gun and kill yourself and stop being a strain on society.
What happened after MS unethically won the browser wars? Need I say more?
SONy will not get sued REMEMBER THIS IS A IBM PATENT THEY NEED TO PASS THROUGH THEM TO GET THROUGH SONY R U GUYS MORONS OR SOMETHING?
dont be mad that sony is screwed, just get a 360. all of your ps3 exclusives are gonna go to 360 anyways!
360 FTW!!
So, that Company is sueing sony now because of CELL , despite the fact that Sony was very public with CELL since it's early stages of development, so why sue now and not then, makes you wonder what the true motive is, to me it's just a cash in attempt.
yep that's what you are, go play with your failbox with a wooping 33% failure rate.
I swear you'd have more luck wining the lotto than having your 360 live the next 12 months.
Enjoy your can of ownage, courtesy of Microsoft. ^_^
AoxomamoxoA has "claimed" from they day one that she owns a PS3...
even posting some picture with a PS3 and 360 sitting together.
i said it then and i'll say it now... other than being the stupidest poster here in QJ her lying is on a level you can't even touch.
nobody minds her anymore anyway so you guys shouldn't either... she's just a fart who passes by once in a while.
with you destroyer they have at no point tried to hide it. Its jus a bunch of greedy bastards hoping to win some money
Why do you people argue over consoles? Its not like you spent all the time and effort making it. All you people do is ***** about how one console is better than the other.. Does it really matter? No because you didnt create it. the only people that are able to brag about how good their console is, are the people who designed and created it. You are just the consumer. If some one preferes the 360 then good for them if some one preferes the ps3 then good on them too. I say enjoy your console, why justify your purchase on an internet forum? you bought it so you could play it... so stop *****ing about some one elses purchase and go play "your" console.
i hope they get counter-sued by sony
I need repeat, console fan is a guy that donĀ“t have money to buy all consoles they want ... WORK MAN !!! WORK !!!
Cell isn't just made by Sony. It was developed with IBM and Toshiba. To me it seems just anither company trying to gain in on the next-gen wave. The patent is more than 15 years old and it appears they haven't done anything with it. Let them first prove Sony/IBM stole the patented design.
So your definition of a console fan is some one who can only afford one console.. so they become a fan of that console because it's the only one they can afford?
preaching to the wrong crowd my friend...
what you read here is an everyday thing... don't mind it too much... the people who are actually a part of the argument don't mind it themselves anyway... it's just one group taking shots at another.
personally i know that even if guys post like the way you said i think that in real life they know better... it's just here in these forums that they act this way.
if i'm wrong then it's a sad sad world.
ii hope sony loses, so xbox360 will rule along side with Wii. besides who needs metal gear solid and *****, all there is to video games is xbox live and halo. the cell processor is all complicated and crap, no wonder it gives developer headaches and head for xboxx 360.
Ah, but it is such a sad world. Not long ago i was an EB Games where a group of kids came in loud and slamming on the PS3.
Not only did they go on their tirade the entire time they were there, they actually went as far asking if EB took soda cans in exchange for a PS3.
Completely reminded me of these boards.
So yeah, some of the people who post on here are just as annoying and pathetic in real life.
Its a scary thing...
Enjoy yourselves B*tches! It's a celebration!
So what exactly is your problem with sony? You havent actualy given a good reason for slating them down? I own all 3 consoles. All are equally good in their own way. But im fed up of this war. MS fans only answer to sony the universe and everything is Halo 3. thats it? a 33% failure rate for a console which has only one worth while game coming out on it? I do enjoy playing my 360. But i do often pray when i play it i dont see the ring of death. I suppose that is one thing i enjoy about my Wii and ps3.. i dont have to worry about the system dieing. But as for the lawsuit... Do you really think a multi million dollar company will lose against a small business... which hardly any one has heard of, let alone used their so called patent in a system. It's probably all lie's anyway
What i said is, the console fans on forums and comments that act like trolls are ppl like i define ...
IsnĀ“t everybody, just the trolls that said "mine is better then your", this is the bull***** that just poor ppl that can only afford one console but arenĀ“t happy with this, so to afirmate for himself that that is the best need to wast their times trolling on net and left their one console getting dirt and say that is "the better" ...
This thing of better isnĀ“t real, the better is what you like, for a lot of ppl Wii is better, look the sell numbers ...
For me the 3 consoles are great, with their positives and negatives points ...
This fan console war starts at the Playstation and Saturn time, at the hardware charts the Saturn was better then PSone and who won? - why? - because develop to Saturn was suck, port games at PSone and Saturn sucks, so Playstation was easy and developers came all to PSone plataform ...
The better theory is bull*****, the better is what you like just this, and if you need to flame other ppl how your console is better, you donĀ“t have sure about this and need the agreement of other ppl just to you think that you arenĀ“t alone with your purchased console, but trolls in their minds want all consoles, a lot of ppl that said Mega Drive/Genesis is better then Snes, in the future purchased the SNES too ...
So to TROLLS ... you are ppl that donĀ“t have life, friends (and like we can see donĀ“t want to make some here) and happyness because all that you want you donĀ“t have, including all consoles ...
i have the 3 consoles too, and you resumed what i fell for x360, i had the 3RROD but fixed it with pads for memory and the towel trick, but was the hell when i saw the red lights ...
They don't even have a corporate website. A Google search just brings up info about their lawsuit against Sony. Sounds like some POS startup that has nothing to stand on.
I think I shall patent holographic TV technology, so when it comes out 50 years from now some big corporation will owe me tons of money. Nice to see this company did so much with its patent from '91. Losers. Any real company with common sense and an actual case would aim to get paid for a share of every unit sold, not an end to the the very tech they developed but failed to market.
You do know that this could also affect the 360 right?
I mean the 360 is a 3 core parallel processing CPU that shares the 1MB of memory among the 3 cores.
Ah, after examining the actual patent, the story has the name of the company wrong. It's International Parallel Machines, Inc. Heres their website, it's pretty comical. http://www.ipmiplc.com/
lol these bastards want to destroy all PS3s
They'll get to mine over my dead body >_>
Ah, now so more exclusive are coming on 360! But in fact, Sony was about to lost them all anyways...It's been like that since day 1 !
Sukcing On New Youth
Its sad you have to go around like a troll and gloat about something thats false.
Why does sony get sued so often if they aren't stealing technology? Sounds like there could be some basis to me. Even though the cell is crap for a game console, it works in a totally new way that could have been conceived in 1991. MS never gets sued for stealing technology. Oh well I hope sony learns their lesson. Didn't IBM make the chips though?
Where's IBM and Toshiba in this process? Since it was STI that made the cell processor. IBM is using it, Toshiba wants to use it in their TVs, and numerous other companies are using the cell processor. I do not believe the cell processor is the only parallel processor out there. They can't be serious with destruction of Sony products that use it. Hmm, bs case most likely. I'm not worried, Sony can handle themselves.
Luckily my 360 is still working, so i am outside of the 33% failure rate.. Being fair i havent played it as much as some people have.. i never did get Xbox live.. i didnt feel the need to pay to use my internet... twice? lol Although some games i would like to play online like GOW but dont want to pay even more for something i already pay for...
I have a patent on a device that allows me to create virtual worlds...
These BS patents are getting out of control. Maybe next time there will be a patent for mixing nitrogen with oxygen and dive shops would be sued.
Didn't IBM help develop the processor and manufacture the processor? Why aren't they being sued right along with Sony?
I agree fully. The proof is'nt always in the figures. Its the consumers choice. Xbox is high because it does have a fail rate. so people do often end up buying more than one per household. Wii well that brought a whole new concept to the word gaming, ten years ago who would have that today you could actually get some fat kid to do some exercise whilst playing games. And the PS3 again it chose to use bluray to its advantage.
Little companies will never be happy, because they didnt push their product in to the market as hard as the other companies have, its their own fault for not bein good business men/women they should have seen how good their product was back in 91, instead of just patenting it they should have used it properly.
it really is a shame that lawsuits and suing has become such a trend in north america. it seems to be the only get-rich scheme for companies that struggle to stay afloat.
...and to the fanboys.. despite how you feel about each system.. they are both good in their own respects, but would you really desire a monopoly of systems? zero-competition is only asking for more trouble. that is more of your hard earned (or your parents' hard-earned money for that matter) money going to waste.
i am sure there is a lot of facts/truth in both ps3 and xbox's viability as systems.. but i get the feeling that people are just trying to justify their expensive purchases. i don't blame anyone - i spent quite a bit for my set up too.
C'mon. This is awful. Just when the PS3 is gonna become the best thing since sliced bread, this happens. F*** those C***s for suing.
im gonna make a patent for creating the universe and sue god!
IBM has also been creating super computers for customers using CELL processors in them. So this article is complete bunk. If Sony has to destroy all these PS3's supposedly....IBM will have to destroy all these super computers. Not likely to happen. If this company sues Sony, IBM and Tosh will be pulled in the mix....and IBM has some really good lawyers. This company doesn't stand a snow balls chance in hell of winning this one.
Cell processor is IBM technology. The case should be against IBM, not sony. Considering the mass of patents that IBM file I am confident that they also have themselves covered - they definately know how to play the patent game.
lawsuits take time to go into action they could have started the process the moment sony announced cell. and its just getting into action now. thats how the legal system works. i still cant see how they're sueing sony. sony didnt make cell.
Is it me or does I smell great white shark? They must know something about the ps3 that we don't know and gonna find out soon........
your out of the 33% failure rate. ive had an 80% failure rate. 4 of 5 360s broke. and i just got number 5.
thats such a bad site. haha
Love all the MS Fanboys here. Yet there company is in a multi million dollar law suit themselves for bad hardware. Almost all of em had issues sience the day they came out. I have one myself and had issues. So remember fanboys. You yell and say get my system its better. A Why does it break so easy? And B Yes MS is under a lawsuite themselves. You are you just blind to see this.
Why are all these douche bags attracted to our news forum? do we have better news than theirs?
***** you! you god damn fan*****! go drink grape-flavored kool-aid laced with potassium cyanide you waste of sperm!!!!!
well said
MS have find some friends to help them make the PS3 down...
It's strange that's a American company how suing...
It's strange that they only attack Sony and not IBM and Toshiba...
It's strange that it's happen only after the PS3 is starting to get some serious ground...
If this happen I'm going to sue them for life deterioration.
each core use certain amount but all the memory are together, that is how they transfer data
also xbox 360 cores work in the same way
but why Sony alone? they should sue IBM and Toshiba, specially IBM
This company is a load bull. Sueing for something they patened way back in '91, & they claiming that Sony stole their idea. 1st of all, Sony didnt make the cell, so how culd they win the case if Sony didn't make it?. And if they were to sue Sony.. IBM, Toshiba, & Microsoft wuld be in it too. Like Destroyer said earlier, Microsofts CPU share memory too. 4 major companys againts one little one. Who do u thinks gona win? Sony, Microsoft, IMB, & Toshiba! PPC is a bunch a lazy crap ppl who want try & get money
they only want money but dont want to mess with IBM too
im going to be rich! i patented suing or attempting to sue sony. so every time some one sues sony i get paid
Im gunna sue sony because i patented and invented the word S. So anything on there console with an S is going to be removed and destroyed. The world is the saddest place. I dont even want to have kids. They shouldnt have to live through so much bull***** in live and not live in constant fear. The world is coming to end and its for the better.
Well, to everyone says that Microsoft should be in the mix too:
Well, Microsoft did not design Xbox 360's processor. It was also designed by IBM.
Not that I am a 360 fan, but the Xenon is a different technology than the Cell Processor. True that both chips may have the same function but it all differs in buffer, I/O, pipelining, register handling, as well as multi-threading. So the company, Parallel Processing Corporation, is suing Sony because their so called "PATENT" matched the technology of the Cell Processor, not how the processor functions.
It's like the rumble function of Nintendo. Wondered why it was not sued by any lawsuits? because Nintendo did not use the same technology as the Sony and Microsoft did.
Although it really feels that this whole lawsuit thing is a crap. STI developed the Cell Processor, so basically, yeah, Toshiba and IBM should also be mentioned.
Is it just me?
IBM + Microsoft ... Remember this while reading the next statements.
-- IBM makes the CELL , Sony gets the technology and implements it in the next console.
-- Sony announces it publicaly, no legal threats against it. "Okay let's move according to plan then" and they decide to release the PS3.
-- 2 or so years after the CELL had been announced they decide to take court action against sony (I doubt the law system takes THIS long.)
Now ... -- Microsoft started losing the HD-DVD vs Blu-Ray battle in a quick change of the tide of the battle.
-- Lots of hype created at the PS3 E3 Events, not so much at the Microsoft's.
-- The lawsuit followed all this, by weeks.
Call me Conspiracy-Man, but this seriously smells fishy and a low-blow attempt against Sony by IBM.
Now go on 360s, Flame me, but do so if you can back up your facts and not random trolling against the PS3. (Because I just don't care lol)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_microprocessor
There gonna have to sue Toshiba and IBM and might as well sue Nvidia and ATi since GPU's act alot like the microprocessors using shared memory on the GPU itself.
I think this will just be a failure for PPC anyway- STI (Sony Toshiba IBM) will just win this.
quick thing... XOtriangle is you fear the red ring... keep your 360 in a open area or for a precaution buy an innercooler.... the cooling system on the 360 doesn't work so well under the disc drive and also due the the design when it heats up the mother board underneath begins to flex... which your end result is a ring of death... im not a fan of 360... personally i love the ps3 and i have been content with sony's products over the years... also the wii is pretty fun but i wouldnt want to own one... im not a hater but i do have my opinion... so all you other fan boys talking *****... just stfu of and the 360 failer rate went up to 35% and the 360 is at an alarming 50%.... well have fun... keep ur 360 cool if u wanna keep it... ALSO IS SOUNDS LIKE A PLANE FLYING THREW YOUR HOUSE!!!!
With Microsoft's failure rates can we just renaim thier product to the xbox 240? Why would anyone want Microsft to own the market anyway?
Of course Microsoft is behind this why else would they want to impound and destroy all existing models. Did anyone read the story about Microsoft complaining that they did not get thier "fair share" out of the rumble lawsuite? Microsoft is doing what they know best, turning out an inferior product and then trying to sue the compitition out od buisness.
The 360 "elite'' is at 50% some how i forgot to type elite... lol
Why do people even care about this console war. I'm not sure about the majority of console owners, but many of my friends and i have a nice computer as well as a console. If you are in that situation why buy a 360? Most of the great games on the 360 are coming out with a PC counterpart, while almost none of the PS3 titles have a PC counterpart. So having a PS3 and a PC solves the problem of wanting to play all you the games you want. TY M$ for allowing me to not invest in your console :)
Even if Sony were to loose this frivalous lawsuit, it will be tied up in appeals long after the PS3 has been replaced by the PS4. Everyone remember the Microsoft fiasco?
This is just a blatant attempt to get PS3 sales to plummet (now that the price decrease has been announced), and with that stock.
this case sounds like bull. just a cheap attempt for a no name california company who made a patent in 1991 to get some money. the judge would never approve of impounding and destroying all ps3. thats just the maddest claim for a lawsuit ive heard in my life.
why aren't they sueing intel for making the core duo then?
360s have a 40% failure rating out of the factory. Sounds like a quality product to me... But what do I know, I just had an awesome hardware failure on mine out of nowhere.
And us Sony Fans being called TROLLS?
How bout if Sony SUE M$ for makin a console based on the verticle design PS2? Without sonys inventions, gd games wud be non existent
this is what i hate about american small business. This company has a PATENT not an actual product, they have a patent that shows they "own" the technology but they dont need a device to prove it. They try to find other companies that infringe on it and then htey go sue sue sue. Most of these companies are not even known thus making big companies real targets since they make a lot of products and chances are they will use a general technology like this.
All games are gna be on the 360 and games r gna last as long as it takes for u to prematurely cum ie. 2 mins henc DVD. Period
theyre broke thats all
Hi DMan,
Normally, I would not agree with conspiracy theories such as the one that implies Microsoft's involvement with this, and would just say that this is the product of a fertile imagination and outrage.
However, this time around, I would agree that there is a definite possibility of Microsoft somehow being at the back of this. I say this for the following reasons:
(1) Sony, IBM and Toshiba have never hid the technology involved from the public eye. If anything, Sony and IBM have done their best to publicize this. That implies that they don't have anything to hide.
(2) The timing of this lawsuit. This lawsuit could have been made before the PS3 was released, when it was released, or while it was struggling in the market. However, they chose to sue Sony now, when Sony is slowly getting a foothold in the Console market. (Also, co-incidentally, MS is having issues with its sales AT THE MOMENT).
(3) Usually, whenever there is a lawsuit by another Company (the Immersion Rumble case, for example), they are interested in the proceeds or royalties from the sales at the least (if they hold the patent). They will NEVER ask for the product to be IMPOUNDED or DESTROYED. This particular demand reeks of trying to discourage people from buying a PS3 by implying that they may lose their PS3 at any time.
Just my two cents/pence/paise. What do you guys/girls think?
Regards,
MTK
u get so much more games to choose from if u have the popular console. Problem is ppl dont wana hav to ditch the 360 for a fresh console like many did with the dreamcast. Its a fierce competition
When will you learn you *****ing idiot AoxomamoxoA?
MGS4 IS NEVER EVER COMING TO XBOX 360. IF YOU WANT TO PLAY IT, THEN BUY A *****ING PS3 FFS
who else wants a piece of the pie?Ibm and sony developed the cell so will this company go after ibm as well?
u are not to decide wots crap for games console. If Assasins Creed was exclusive, it wud be sh*t in ur POV neway
This world seems like its raging yr by yr and is not suitible for kids nemore
Patents do not protect against "stealing" technology, they prevent anyone from applying the same technology, EVEN IF THEY INDEPENDENTLY DEVELOPED IT THEMSELVES. Also, because of the way patents are written, it's virtually impossible to create a useful product that is guaranteed to not be infringing any patents. Even if you know exactly what you're looking for, someone may have worded the patent differently than you expected. Even if you find a patent that might apply to your product, they're written in such opaque and broad language that it's hard to be sure whether it applies. You say that "MS never gets sued for stealing technology", but Microsoft altered IE because they were sued over some kind of plugin patent. MS and Nintendo have been targeted for patents allegedly infringed in their game consoles as well, but they typically choose to settle rather than fight it in court, so the splash in the press isn't as big. The infamous Immersion Corp. also threatened to sue Microsoft, but Microsoft caved early on and decided to license the patent, so the news stories were all about Immersion vs. Sony.
Hi,
This is me playing Devil's Advocate:
(1) To my point 1 above:
The patent may have been filed long back. The company (or person) may have thought of that long back, I think it was 1991.
(2) To point 2 above:
It may have just occurred to the person/Company that IBM/Sony's product might infringe on their patent. Or they might have been biding their time until Sony starts to approach something like a good position.
(3) To my point 3 above:
I don't have any answer for this. For this, I can only say that the only Companies that benefit from this particular demand (IMPOUNDING and/or DESTRUCTION, and thus discouraging sales of PS3) are Microsoft and Nintendo. Again, Nintendo is in a VERY strong position and has nothing to fear from Sony, which leads me to the conclusion that the only Company benefiting from the FUD regarding the PS3 created by this lawsuit is Microsoft (Business history is evidence that Microsoft rarely, if ever, plays fair in the world of business).
On the other hand, I might be mistaken. Any counters?
Regards,
MTK
its loud as a jetfighter...i..i mean my DVD rewriter
you have a point
but a little observation
when immersion sued sony they demanded to stop selling ps2 and games
microsoft and immersion where good partners at that time
now immersion want royalties and a good relationship with sony for rumble sixaxis
microsoft complained and asked immersion for money, and now immersion and microsoft dont have a good relationship
microsoft did something similar rescuing SCO from bankrupt and they sued IBM for a ridiculous amount of money because some code from linux kernel, remember the sco fiasco?
there are very strong elements to support this conspiracy theory
MS sales are fine they are waiting for the big title software launches Bioshock and Halo are machine sellers and the premium is soon to drop in price to compete with the Wii and the Elite is going to be FAR cheaper than the PS3,(and also has HD downloadable movies to the HD) no going out to rent a video again thats old hat thats why the PS3 has to drop Two of their consoles in the first year, the PS3 sales only had a rise because they dropped the price to get rid of discontinued models 2 already dropped in the first year thats bad.
IBM sank a lot of money into Cell and wants to sell Cell chips, consultation, and development tools to some deep-pocketed customers (e.g. labs that use supercomputers) . How does it benefit IBM for this kind of shadow to be cast over the most well-known Cell-powered product?
ban this AoxomamoxoA and MCS or i will not come to your site any more. this people come on the the ps3 forms saying they have a ps3 but they dont and start flame wars...
Hang on a minute, now Rumble was invented by somebody else and Sony didnt pay for it so they couldnt use it etc, MS paid for the right to use rumble and also anything else that wasnt theres in their system so WTF has MS got anything to do with this, JESUS grow up and go collect money for charity or something but stop writing this crap on these forums...
Hi cactuar,
"remember the sco fiasco?"
Actually, I don't. What was it about?
Regards,
MTK
no matter they registers I/O or buffers, etc
both chips use shared memory(patent) and both are manufactured by IBM and used in other products and other similar cpu's use that patent
dude i don't even think u understood....
MS is using a CPU which has the same multicore with shared memory technology as stated in their patent...so they should be getting sued too...
Why do u sue a company that didnt even creat the product
(tottaly irrelevent) IBM,Sony,Toshib a created cell but wats weird is
Toshiba HD-DVD
Sony Bluray
Isn that wierd 2 partner companys in one products SWORN enemyes in the other i would think that toshiba must be very angry at sony tosit at the table to dicuss about CELL and those dreadfull days of buisness wen they tlak to them about how bluray is winning and usin the proccesor good AHHAH i would love to see toshiba guys faces HAHAH
it's sad that sony is getting sued again. but it even sadder that it cell. but what ready pisses me off. is that the infragment is back in 1991. i own a playstation 3 and i love how they done it. but after lawsuit after lawsuit. it's like hell on earth. i wished that other company stop sueing sony over a joint company agreement to make one of the most advance prossor around the world. i hope it hit them in the face over there money gubben lawsuit. because sony isn't the only one that made it. IBM and toshiba help made it damn it. i wonder what would happen if IBM and toshiba come in. oh i know they'll have no chance in hell of proven it.
im stupid..
i dont get it.
why is sony being sued??
wat happens if they lose?
Update: It's seems that the company who sued sony don't even exist.
Check the Spong article.
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Update: It's seems that the company who sued sony don't even exist.
Check the Spong article.
Stupid fanboy.
Hi,
I'm referring to EngineerLackey's well-written explanation of the current American patent system:
"Patents do not protect against 'stealing' technology, they prevent anyone from applying the same technology, EVEN IF THEY INDEPENDENTLY DEVELOPED IT THEMSELVES. Also, because of the way patents are written, it's virtually impossible to create a useful product that is guaranteed to not be infringing any patents. "
As I understand it, this patent system is currently broken. Just a few examples:
(1) Indian Ayurveda has been using Aloe Vera, Turmeric, etc for medicinal purposes since more than a thousand years Before Christ. Even so, some years back, some American companies went ahead and patented the SAME USE of these products that Indian practitioners has been making for thousands of years, so that now Indian Ayurvedic companies have to pay royalty to these companies.
(2) Some unscrupulous American individuals (Companies) have also sought to patent certain Indian Yogic practices: I'm referring to Indian Hatha-Yoga practices i.e the Yogic exercises which most Western nations think of when someone mentions Yoga (actually, Yoga is a way of life, encompassing several disciplines of Yoga - Jnana Yoga, Raja Yoga, Bhakti Yoga, Karma Yoga, etc). These Yogic practices are stated to be at least 6000 years old in Indian religious texts.
When the American legal system allows such unethical patents, I would say that the American patent system is all about allowing thieves to get to the Court and stamp their name on an idea FIRST.
My two cents.
Regards,
MTK
Hope so !
You truly are a disgrace to humanity. I hope you die a painful death and do the whole world a favor you piece of S.H.I.T I hope Bill Gates comes to your house and strangles you to death.
I want to file a class action lawsuit against sony becaust my PS2 scratched discs.
I think me and my lawyer deserve the biggest chunk of 5 million for 2 scratched games. lol
get a 360, yay! ***** the ps3, yay! what exclusives? yay! sony's never done a thing for the industry and amount to just about as much as Phillips and their CDI. yay!
I want to make a patent for any interactive electronical device. (would include pc's, cell phones, game systems, just about everything) and then I will sue everybody, especially Mr. Gates.
Hi EngineerLackey,
I think the poster probably means Microsoft rather than IBM when he says "Call me Conspiracy-Man, but this seriously smells fishy and a low-blow attempt against Sony by IBM."
Regards,
MTK
Hi,
I looked up the SCO fiasco. Yes, it does seem as if Microsoft has done something extremely similar in the past.
In 2003, Microsoft financed the SCO group in suing IBM and demanding that Linux users pay license fees and their claim was that - Linux was an unauthorized derivative of UNIX and contained code from SCO's UNIX System V Source Code. Note that this did not concern MS directly. They just tried to kill off competition by financing people to sue them. For this, MS financed them and helped them set up SCOSource to license the claimed intellectual property.
2007: An unknown, International Parallel Machines, which has a generic, vague-sounding, patent for MIMD (Multiple Instruction Multiple Data) processing, creates a new division called Parallel Processing, for licensing said patent and then goes ahead and sues - not IBM, the company central to building this, but Sony. And they don't just ask for licensing fees or royalty, they actually ask for the product to be "impounded and destroyed". Again, who stands to benefit most from this move?
Regards,
MTK
Oh now what hunn!!!
xbox fans all out of hype, nothing else bad to say about Sony PS3. Did you finally realize ohh sh*t my systems gonna break soon. I had to press the button 3 times to turn the xbox on... yeah and whats up with M$(money rich greedy company) pretending to be nice to people and fixing their systems...THATS BECAUSE YOUR SYSTEM IS GONNA BREAK VERY SOON. JUST REMEMBER THIS LINE... I TOLD YOU SO, AND I TOLD YA MAMA WITH A STICK,..ooohh yeah MAN.
HOW ABOUT THE I don't like PS3 because they got sued because people wanted to steal money from them in a legal way.
Appreicate what Sony brought to us all...I don't know why you hating on sony. I bet it was the happiest day of your life when you first got that PS1 back then. I bet U were worshiping them forever ....then PS2 came out and they were still the best(the sales prove it)
and then tiny insect xbox came out and that was when M$ official brainwashed you Sony is evil. Sony is bad........which was a total hyprocracy because they were just basically porting PS2 games over which was also know as just copying the PS2 and trying to play PS2 games because PS2 was so addicting nobody wanted to buy or play any computer games.
which made M$ super piss off because their nobody wanted to play their sorry fruitcake computer games and was gonna go out of business.
Well smart, Genuis.... Mr. Bill Gates came up with a revolutionary idea. " Hey check this out my fellow nerds, If we can't beat the PS2 lets join them.
PS2 got such cool games lets copy a machine just like that so we can play and "SELL" their games, but put it in a different cover so people think it's different.
And that was the same thing they did with Mac OS.
end of story M$ is a geek company trying to pretend to be cool like the big doggs.
p.s. if you own a xbox 360 you are gay...you might as well bend down and let them stroke you and pull out a silicon toy (oh thats fake too, hahaha) if you think the xbox 360 and PS3 are still the same do your research.
if the worlds fastest super computer are using the same kind of processor shouldnt that get sued aswell lol .
Because every large tech company gets sued almost constantly. Some large companies spend over $100,000,000 annually both defending themselves and filing patent suits of their own.
The only people who really win with the patent system as broken as it is are the lawyers, especially in the US.
they should sue for the ps2 too then because it had 3 cores, and motorola because my mpx220 cellphone has a duel core processor too, why no sue intel the moast since they made that 80 core processor which breaks their patent to the extreme. and why the ***** did they wait so long pretty much the first thing announced for ps3 was that it would have a 8core cell processor. Besides IBM made the cell so sony did nothing wrong since they got them from IBM. Its all IBM's fault.
SHUT UP! No one wants to hear from you here...
didn't IBM make Cell? Why is sony being sued then?
as pointed out earlyer if by some crazy act of god this retard lawsuit were to end with sony lossing it would only be a matter of time b4 your crapy xbox would be hit with the same lawsuit and your comp to if you have a good 1 anything with multiple core processing would fall under this retard patent. by the wy i just patented air youll all be getting subpenas lol
Sony..............you phail.....................
and so does certain types of Ram, so the lawsuit is useless. Besides, in 1991 no one dream of 9 cores in one chip. Come on QJ stop it.
YEAH everyone listen to this fool! Now we can all enjoy 5 disc game Heavenly Sword on our brokebox360 if sony goes down!
It dosen't surprise me at all that they would sue Sony ana small business in the US and I won't be surprised if this company is from Texas where alot of these suits come from it kinda reminds me of that guy who sued a hell of ppl over jpeg's(I don't think I spelled that right) that was also from Texas but hope that Sony pulls though
Please do us a favour and hold your breath till MGS4 comes out on the 360 along with all your Xbot buddies. Hopefully this will help the world's burden of overpopulation.
In both those cases it should be possible to get the patents struck. If you have th resources to file a case and can show prior art it is relatively easy to get a patent stuck down. There are other limits to patents and ways to reverse them.
I think the two biggest problems are an inability of the patent office to evaluate a claim correctly, and the cost of fighting a patent suit is very high.
The EFF (www.eff.org) has a very interesting section on patent abuse and helping to fight it. Most large corporations are as prone to abuse as any patent troll.
THOSE GUYS ARE RIDICULOUS!!... I SHOULD GO DOWNTHERE AND SHOOT THEM ...
Good its nice to see the other rival consoles get boned in the A.S.S.
Anyway it really sucks to be a Sony fanboy right now. Let me tell you as a full blown 360 fan I (as well as my friends) are living it up with games that will truly move the gaming industry. NO Sony fan has ever felt the feeling of a legendary game get even LEGENDARIER! Im talking about Halo having 4 player online Coop! Yes! suck it you $ony A.S.S F.A.G.S.
I hope you and your console take up permanent residence in H.E.L.L
you dumb ass! home button was on PSX and PSP also !
Even 360 fans should think that all these lawsuits are a load of BS.
MS just announced 4 player online co-op for Halo 3
PS3 just got raped by the 360
Your post just shows how stupid Xbots are...
and I quote "Legendarier..."
you just proved that people like you are massive a.s.s.holes with no lives. go masturbate with your 360 because apparently you've developed a sexual interest in it. And yeah games like viva pinata are really moving the industry...to gayness like the wii. And btw speak proper english (legendarier?). this is america and if you can;t speak the language than the INS is gonna come and rape you.
xbox 360 is like a sports car that is missing half of its radiator and can't run as long as the PS3 or the wii, can you enjoy driving your Xbot 3Sh*tty when it cant go 4 (hours) miles without causing your engine to melt to a lump of slag? you'll have to be always keeping in mind that you cant "push" your "car" for extra fun and have to cut your playtime short for an hour while that blast furnance you call a system reaches someware below 1000 degrees. and what person will want to waste their time with their "car" at the shop being repaired over and over then getting a diffirent cooler then drive it in Alaska so it dont overheat again. what will happen to it with the constant heat for three years "over the safety limit" for the circuts, even if it didint brakedown even once? give it a thought stupid xbox fans when your stupid warranty expires and you just went through your 60th console AGAIN
Microsoft is behind it just like how the government was behind 9-11
It's already been leaked that M$ financed a group of Patent attorneys on this. What M$ Mega Bucks Monkey Man Balmer forgot was it could eventually come on them.
But it already came partially back as this case was tossed over a month ago when on the 5th day in court it got thrown out by the judge.
First of all the lawsuit states (and so called patent documents as no records have been found to back this up). Parallel Processing Corporation does not exist in any form in any state or jurisdiction of this country. They have no proof any attempt was ever made to develop such a device and it's described as "synchronous" not "Asynchronous" which is what the Cell processor is!
Top that off with the fact the told told them they were going after the wrong Corporate Entity. They should be instead going after the patent holder of the Cell BE, which is IBM. But that would be if they had a valid claim which it was deemed they do not! Done! Gone! Wasted M$ Dollars just like on their Xbox 360 RROD Console! ;)
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